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'Tsunami' Hits Presbyterians; Dramatic Changes Ahead

By Lillian Kwon|Christian Post Reporter

Top officials of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) have come to the conclusion that they cannot continue "doing church" the way they have been.

Churches within the PC(USA), the nation's largest Presbyterian body, have "hit the wall" and "come to the end of the string," seeking new directions amid a growing exodus from the denomination.

"It is as if a tsunami of change has hit us," said Joan Gray, moderator of the General Assembly during a Sept. 17-21 GAC (General Assembly Council) meeting in Louisville, Ky., according to the Presbyterian News Service. "I recently spent time in the Midwest, and these areas are drying up. The people are not there any more. In Detroit, 3,000 people a day are leaving to emigrate elsewhere. That is just the tip of the iceberg.”

The PC(USA) has suffered continual losses in membership and now claims a little less than 2.3 million. More dissident Presbyterians and some historic congregations have voted to split from the PC(USA), citing that the denomination is not consistent with written theology in such areas as the singular saving Lordship of Jesus Christ and homosexual ordination.

Many are moving into the smaller and more conservative Evangelical Presbyterian Church.

“Much of our discomfort is really about our coming to grips with the overwhelming change that is coming at us from all sides. The bottom line is that we simply cannot continue doing church the way we have been," said Gray, according to PNS.

"One thing I am seeing is that some of those churches and presbyteries who have come to the end of the string are making a choice,” she added. “They are letting go of what they had been doing and opening the way to what God is doing.”

The PC(USA) is set to undergo some dramatic changes.

One major change includes the re-writing of the denomination's Form of Government, a major portion of the PC(USA) constitution, that hasn't been changed since 1983, according to Mark Pammen, director of Constitutional Services for the General Assembly.

The new Form of Government would be a major change in the way the church conducts its ecclesiastical business, as PC(USA) head the Rev. Clifton Kirkpatrick said at the meeting.

“We may move away from a somewhat over-regulated polity to one that frees us up to be a more flexible General Assembly,” said Kirkpatrick, who announced recently that he will not seek a third term next year as stated clerk.

Breakaway Presbyterians have expressed their discontent with the PC(USA)'s "bureaucratic, centralized authority, and hierarchical top-down leadership" that doesn't work anymore in the postmodern era, the Rev. Dr. D. Dean Weaver, senior pastor of Memorial Park Presbyterian Church in Pittsburgh, which recently voted to leave the PC(USA), said previously.

Following Christ faithfully into the next millennium relates to a paradigm shift in polity, said Weaver.

Kirkpatrick compared the PC(USA) to a recent flight he took in which the plane was having a few problems.

"The pilot says, 'You really can’t expect a 40-year old plane not to have a few problems,'" Kirkpatrick said as he told the story.

"Then the pilot and flight attendants leave and another crew comes onboard. Then, first thing you know, you are heading down the runway and on your way and will perhaps arrive ahead of time. It’s like that in the church.”

A change in PC(USA)'s Form of Government would focus more directly on local congregations and provide more flexibility. If the new Form of Government is adopted when the General Assembly considers it next year in June, it would be a "significant change," according to Pammen.

Weaver, however, isn't optimistic that he would see any major changes take effect in the PC(USA) any time soon.

"Big ships turn slowly," he had said.

Baptisms have decreased in the PC(USA) in recent years along with the largest membership dip of 2.05 percent in 2005.

Although concerned about the exodus from the denomination, Kirkpatrick has expressed optimism for growth and said the church is in a "potential tipping point of renewed growth and vitality."

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  • Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:32 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 3

    Church Discipline is one of the big problems. Discipline, however, comes from the elders. Elders are elected by the christians in the pews. When the Mainline Presbyterian church began rotating ruling elders it diluted the strength of the laity position. This allowed the unorthodox into the leadership who will not discipline themselves or give up power until they make the changes they want (ordaining teaching elders that are not qualified). This then corrupts the teaching elder position. Now the whole tree produces bad fruit because the roots ( rulling elders from the laity) has been compromised. Start over and hold the line with solid ruling elders (honest-orthodox-believing-men).

  • Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:23 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    this is the future of the church? Recently, I read the Book of Revelations for the FiRST TIME all the way through on a yearly chronological bible schedule. What is going on in Revelations is portrayed in the world, i.e, we have people and churches falling away from the God-man of Jesus, we've got pastors with Money as their God, we've got wolves in sheep's clothing and people becoming more materialistic. But Jesus is the Victor not the beast! Let's all take the charge given us by the apostle Paul and lead as many of the lost to Christ while we still have time; this should serve as an impetus for the believers, with love bros and sisters, over and out

  • Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Well said.I couldn't agree more!

  • Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:29 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

    All they have to do is start with preaching the true gospel and stop saying that there is more than one way to God. The vast majority of people and churches would never have left. They are amazing stubborn. They know why people are leaving. This is no surpise to them. What a mess.

  • Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:02 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Two of my favorite writers(R.C. Sproul and Francis Schaeffer) came from the Presbyterian Church, so I know there is a rich history there to which we owe a great debt of gratitude.My prayer is that it will continue to thrive and produce conservative thinking Scholars, who will carry the torch in this century.

  • Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:30 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

    Don't see how a change in the Presbyterian Form of Government will help straighten out the PCUSA. FOG concern is just another end run that fails to address the real problem. The PCUSA has lost its direction and is a platform for Satan. When we get back to placing our faith in God and not worshiping the god of political correctness then review of FOG might be of some value. We have a long way to go. Our Louisville leaders love to sidestep real problems and confuse the pewsitters with irrelevent garbage. Hopefully, with some of them leaving God will redirect the denomination back to being Bible based.

  • Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:05 pm Agree: 9   Disagree: 0

    In my opinion, the Bible is either the Word of God or it isn't. There is no middle road. The sheep recognize the voice of the true shepherd (John 10) in the Bible. They do not need theologians to tell them what to keep and what to throw away. As far as the Presbyterians and Episcopaleans are concerned, the answer to their dilemma is quite simple: Stick to God's Word, and accept no compromise from the Father of the lie! Believe me, you are being closely watched by believers from all over the world!

  • Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:52 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

    If you look at church history, this is par for the course. Nothing new whatsoever. Time and again, unbelievers force their way into the church, make noise, gain the numbers they need to push their weight around, and the true believers end up having to run for the exits. Then the unbelieving church ultimately collapses, or becomes meaningless, as they really have no answers to offer.

  • Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:10 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 6

    Amen Jar61, I hope that my Church, Roman Catholic, will not go down that road.

  • Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:35 pm Agree: 8   Disagree: 4

    I'm a Presbyterian. Scipture warns of of an age of apostacy when men will be lovers of self and seek teachers who will tickle their ears... Welcome to the age of apostacy. Any ecclesias that supports the ordination of women and homosexuals.. that seek to redefine marriage deserve to be seperated from the Body of Christ as far as the east is from the west.

  • Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:44 am Agree: 11   Disagree: 1

    Poor Presbyterians! They are losing members in droves for the obvious reasons and they still skip down the primrose path ignoring the bleeding. They can paint a rosy picture all they want and they can adjust here and there all they want but that will not keep members who are faithful the Christ's teachings. I fear the same thing happening to the Episcopalians. Why can't they see the writing on the wall???

  • Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:01 am Agree: 7   Disagree: 2

    >>>Following Christ faithfully into the next millennium relates to a paradigm shift in polity, said Weaver.

    Is the Holy Spirit into paradigm shifts in polity.....?

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