Schuller: What we’re trying to do is pull all these people together, again, to help us rethink the role of the church in meeting society where they are today. The conference is really designed not as an opportunity for people to come and listen to these speakers as much as it is an opportunity for people to come and question these speakers and interact with them. It’s much more interactive than any of the conferences we’ve had in the past.
CP: So what role does your father play now in the ministry? And how is he doing?
Schuller: My father’s doing really well, thank you. He is the founding pastor of the congregation so he’ll continue to worship with us Sunday mornings and he’ll read scriptures and interview people once in a while and then he still delivers a message probably six to eight times a year.
CP: What are you next plans for ministry? You’ve already written a book and you’re leading Crystal Cathedral. What do you hope to build on top of the church your father has established?
Schuller: What we want to do is we want to bring the ‘Hour of Power’ to the entire world. We’re doing that on the Internet but in addition to that we want to broadcast on stations literally around the world. We’ve covered the United States – we have for the last 35 years – Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe, Russia (since 1990), most of the East bloc countries. We’re moving into China and we’ll continue to grow in China. Our focus for the next decade will be India. We’re currently in South Africa; we want to spread across the continent of Africa and the continent of South America and Central America. So that’s our growth areas.
And in addition to that, what we’re doing in America and in Europe is we’re continuing to develop house churches. What we’re calling those are ‘Houses of Power.’ We have the ‘Hour of Power.’ We want to connect people because the church is people who are connected so that no matter where they are, they can worship together because the Bible tells ‘where two or three are gathered, there I will be also.’ So it’s imperative people gather but it doesn’t have to be more than two or three. You don’t have to gather in communities of hundreds. You can gather in communities of twos or fives and worship God. You can watch the ‘Hour of Power,’ you can sing the hymns, collect offering and then find service needs to use this offering to reach out and touch needy people and become little house churches. We currently have about 1,000 Houses of Power. Then what we’re doing beyond that is just communicating the message that the Crystal Cathedral is a church to the world because the Crystal Cathedral is literally a church that has no walls. It has 10,000 windows and it has the world’s largest doors – 90 feet tall, 40 feet wide. And the church is shaped like a star – one point facing north, another east, another south, another west. And so the cathedral, without the intent of being designed this way, was designed for the world because we want people to realize that nobody is too bad to come in. That’s why we have these huge doors.
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"Keep your eyes on the crucifix,
for Jesus without the cross is a man
without a mission, and the cross without Jesus is a burden without a
reliever." The Cross does not play a major part in Schuller's theology. Maybe the work of Christ in taking the sins of the world upon Himself isn't that big a deal?
Schuller: It depends on how that’s defined. The suffering of Jesus Christ is a true thing that took place historically and I think the suffering of Jesus Christ is very real and I think we need to recognize that as individuals. I think what’s more important, however, is for us to understand what that means. And for us as individuals it means that grace of Jesus Christ abounds. So I communicate not so much the suffering of Jesus Christ like The Passion of the Christ movie. When I think of that movie, I think ‘Wow, man, that’s tough.’ And we need to be aware of it. But what’s more important than that is what it means for us. And what it means for us is that we can live victorious lives if we confess Jesus Christ as our Savior and Lord – that the direction that God has for our lives can be discovered, realized, lived and we can be people God’s designed us to be. And I that’s what I think the Christian life is all about – living the life that God wants us to live. So I don’t think God wants us to focus on the suffering of Jesus Christ as much as He wants us to focus on serving Jesus Christ.
CP: Do you also feel that the culture today is more receptive of the positive messages and people are maybe turned off by messages of suffering and the cross?
Schuller: There’s nothing wrong with talking about the cross because the cross is the symbol of hope and talking about the suffering of Jesus Christ is just one small piece of the whole Gospel message. And to focus too much on the suffering of Jesus Christ is to put emphasis on a small area which is insignificant compared to the larger area of serving Jesus Christ.
The Word of God: “But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.” (Galatians 6:14)
“For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.” (1 Corinthians 1:18)
“That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.” (Philippians 3:10, 11)
“Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.” (2 Timothy 3:12)
“For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake…” (Philippians 1:29)
“And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.” (Luke 24:46, 47)
Schuller: First and foremost, I want to encourage, uplift and inspire people. That’s really my calling – to inspire people. I define the word ‘inspire’ from my Greek studies which means to breathe the breath of life. So I want to inspire people. And for me, that is communicating the Gospel of Jesus Christ in a positive way. I always start with a text that I think is inspiring and uplifting and motivating and communicate that message in a contemporary way that people can appreciate and try to bring in the history and education to the process, communicate an awareness and understanding of the Bible that people can hold onto.
The Word of God: “Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” (2 Timothy 4:2-4)