Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton is scheduled to join Saddleback Church's third annual Global Summit on AIDS and the Church hosted by Rick and Kay Warren.
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(Photo: AP Images / Ronda Churchill)Presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y is shown at the start of the Democratic debate at the Cox Pavilion at the University of Nevada in Las Vegas Thursday, Nov. 15, 2007.
Clinton is the first of six invited presidential candidates to confirm participation at the Nov. 27-Dec. 1 summit. The Warrens extended invitations to leading White House contenders former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.), former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, all of whom have expressed a desire to participate.
"Inviting politicians from different perspectives to the Summit is not a political decision - it is a humanitarian and Christian action," said Rick Warren, bestselling author of The Purpose Driven Life, in a statement released Thursday. "When millions are dying each year, we're interested in lives, not labels. We want everyone to become concerned about the AIDS pandemic."
The 2007 summit follows last year's controversy when Warren and his wife Kay hosted Obama and Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), who dropped out of the race last month, at the AIDS summit.
Conservatives and pro-life groups were outraged over the invitation of the Illinois senator who professes Christian faith and is pro-choice. Groups such as the Christian Defense Coalition protested against working together with someone in contrast with the teachings of historic Christianity.
While affirming his pro-life stance, Warren said he and Kay were focused on the AIDS crisis and uniting people that otherwise would not collaborate together around the issue. And Obama has been active in the AIDS and poverty battle.
Speakers participating at the Saddleback summit are said to be affirming and supporting the vital role of the Church in fighting the HIV/AIDS pandemic. Clinton affirmed the need for churches to get involved.
"I commend Rick and Kay Warren for their work to fight HIV/AIDS," Clinton stated. "Our churches have a powerful role to play in raising the consciousness of the nation and the world to this pandemic and urge compassion for the sick and the suffering. When we come together, seeking the common good, we can find solutions to our biggest challenges and reinforce our faith that a call to action can change lives. I am honored to participate in this 'coming together' at the third annual Global Summit on AIDS and the Church."
The Warrens have been at the front lines of leading the evangelical community in the fight against a pandemic that has been labeled the worst humanitarian crisis of our time. Until recent years, churches had largely been absent from the HIV/AIDS battle, distancing themselves from the stigma of the disease, which has been associated with sin.
Since realizing the pain of millions living with the pandemic without much support, the billions affected by it, and what the Bible has to say about caring for the sick, the Warrens have been mobilizing Christians for over four years now to overturn the pandemic. Although the church response is still slow, the Warrens are convinced that AIDS cannot be ended without the Church and its 2 billion followers around the globe. Continue >>
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I think there are two things. Forgiveness as far as the relation to God is concerned and the awareness, as far as becoming a grown up christian is concerned.
There are things that keeps the Holy Spirit out of my life, even though Jesus died for them.
By confession them step by step as soon I get sight of them, I get closer and closer to God here on this earth and more and more mature christian.
This is a difficult question. But you defenetly have unforgiven sin in your live and if you accepted Christ as your saviour this is done, as far as heaven and your relation to God is concerned, BUT even though God wants to shpw the asking ones every little sin to be confessed. Jesus already died for my sins, even though I will never be able to confess all, I will see him and be with him eternally.
no comment?
and if you have unforgiven sins in your life, and you can still go to heaven...why do we need forgiveness for?
I see your point...and as the scripture says...if my wife had cheated on her first husband and he divorced her, then she could remarry without fear of being in adultery.
"But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, EXCEPT for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery." Matthew 5:31 And as it reads in Matthew 19:
"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and MARRIES ANOTHER WOMAN commits adultery." That says nothing about the wife. And the first one says nothing about the wife either. It says that whoever marries the woman is the adulterer.
The same with the scripture in Mark chapter 10 "11And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery." There again, it says nothing about the other spouse. Just the one that instigated the divorce. So, I'm trying to figure out where my wife's guilt comes in. And you accuse me of twisting the scriptures. At worst....I'm the one commiting adultery.
But regardless..God must know something we dont. He uses my wife and I, blesses us, and speaks to us. Go figure....
so a Christian who commits suicide will go to heaven?
prop. - regarding unforgiven sin, I presume that I will die with some, yes (because I'll most likely be sinning up to the day I die) but I will go to heaven because of God's grace through His Son. What are you getting at with the question?
Prop. - But scripture says that your relationship with your wife is adulterous. Does it not?
You presume to understand homosexual relationships and treat them as such - you said it doesn't matter if the two people love each other - its wrong. that's what you said because scripture is clear you said. Well is it not just as clear regarding your relationship to your wife. . . and you have no reason to be angry with me. So stop being condescending - its not becoming.
And I am getting frustrated with you because you are twisting God's word and its frustrating that you read the words but don't look beyond. I know you do in other instances because you just did with regards to adultery so I know its in you but with homosexuality, case closed, no need to do any more research or look at what it means.
ifeelfine...
hypocrite....hmmmm. so, when it comes to the situation with my wife, who was a victim...twice...you hold no mercy or grace...or an ounce of God's love. You will tell a rape victim that she is ok, but when it comes to my wife who was victimized and left to fend for herself that she is an adulteress. I'm not angry with you. I do pity you. But im not angry. I cannot be angry with someone who knows nothing about me or my wife and our relationship with God. I know about God's love and mercy. Otherwise, He would not be using my wife in the way that He is. He, Himself, has spoken to me about some of His plans for us in our ministry. He has spoken to my wife about the same things. He has done literal miracles in our lives. So, im thinking that God's evidence far outweighs one man's beliefs.
ifeelfine, do you believe that if you die with unforgiven sins that you will not go to heaven?
ifeelfine:
"Prophet - I thought I did answer your question, if not I apologize. I said that it would be better to remain celibate. If you get remarried you are living in a constant state of adultery (IE, yes, she is sinning)"
Ifeelfine, i believe you are misinterpreting (twisting) the Scriptures. Prophets wife had been cheated on. This is the only allowance that can be backed up biblically for divorce. For you to spin the Word of God is a deliberate act to try to justify your stance on homosexuality not being so wrong. Prophets wife is not sinning, as she was cheated on. What art of the Scriptures don't you understand? Prophet has responded correctly to you in everything, and yet you always take an opposing view of the Scriptures. Why????????????? Neither Prophet, nor his wife are living in a perpetual state of adultery. Prophet is not cheating on his wife, and his wife was clearly married once, but her ex-husband chose to commit adultery, so she is no longer with that man; upon her divorce based on biblical grounds to her ex husband who clearly did not repent of his adultery and chose to continue defiling his marriage bed, she was free to marry Prophet after the fact. As I have exhorted you once too many times before: stp twisting Scriptures to justify your opinions on matters the Word has clearly said are wrong. Read te whole counsel of God and then you will see the true heart of God. I too bid you a happy thanksgiving.
ifeelfine:
"jc4me - Thank you for your reply. Some of what you are saying I wholeheartedly agree with however I've been chastised for using some of your logic (the reasoning abilities God has given us instead of follow the letter of scripture). If you don't find homosexuality to be a bigger problem then clearly CP does. They have two separate subtabs for the topic and none for divorce - I guess I see where their priorities are. And on the one or two times they have published an article about divorce I certainly didn't see your comments on them (mine weren't there either but as you know I've only recently found this site)."
just clarify, i am also relatively new to the site. If a article on divorce in the church would have come up, i too would have exposed how God hates divorce, but how He makes allowance for it if there is marital infidelity supposig there is no repentance on behalf of the one who is actually committing the adulterous act(s). In addition, to further clarify, i don't believe that Homosexuality is a greater sin that adultery, or fornication because they all stem from the same lustful desire to act upon what God has clearly said is wrong in His Word. I'm not siding with the progressive, or liberal interpreters of the Word - I do think it is still sin, and like the other sins mentioned, as well as others mentioned, one needs to repent of it (them). One can not live a lifestyle of adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, and call themseves trully born again. To be born again there needs to be repentance, and a need to die to yourself; whatever your vice is..
And yes, I've willfully sinned. I'm a sinner - I've admitted that. Its through God's grace and His Son that I will go to heaven when I die.
now you're just being obtuse Proph. Obviously if someone was raped they weren't sinning. That's ridiculous.
The same could be said about you regarding God's word. You are such a hypocrite when speaking of God's love and yet the way you talk about gay people and others - there is no love in that. You read the words of the Bible but it seems like you don't understand the meaning - you just read the words. Enough already.
and Prophet, I pray to God that your marriage will be blessed, even though anything.
God does not know anything about any devorce, for it is forgiven and placed in the deepest see.
Your marriage is blessed and right before God and this is what I truely believe!