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Christianity's Edge over Islam in Holy Book War

By Ethan Cole|Christian Post Reporter

Believers of Christianity and Islam are competing to spread their respective holy book around the world, but distributors of the Bible have some advantages over the Koran.

  • Bible, Koran
    (Photo: AP Images / Sang Tan)
    A visitor looks at a volume of The Hebrew Bible from Lisbon, Portugal dated 1482, left, The New Testament from Constantinople from the mid 10th century, centre, and a 1310 Royal Quran from Mosul, Iraq, in the 'Sacred : Discover what we share' exhibition at the British Library in London, Wednesday, April 25, 2007. The exhibition brought together important religious texts from the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths.

The Bible is translated into 2,426 languages (complete or in part) and counting, including 900 English versions ranging from street slang to comic book-like translations, according to The Economist. On the other hand, the Koran is disadvantaged by the belief by some that the word of God must not be changed, even translation-wise.

Although most Muslims now accept translation of the Koran, it is still widely held that reading and memorizing the Koran in Arabic is superior. There are only 20 English versions of the Koran compared to the nearly 1,000 versions of the Bible in the same language.

Another advantage of the Bible is the sheer larger quantity of Bibles distributed compared to the Koran. Over 100 million copies of the Bibles are sold or given away each year.

In comparison, oil-rich Saudi Arabia, the main player in the printing and distribution of the Koran and Islamic teaching materials, gives away some 30 million Korans a year around the world through the Muslim World League or wealthy individuals.

Bible distribution is helped by Christian missionaries who work to spread the Gospel to every tribe and tongue. Through the missionaries, the Word of God has reached even the most remote jungles in the world.

While evangelism in Islam exists, it is largely confined to regions where the religion is already strong and less active in regions where people have never heard of Islam before. In other words, Islam’s growth is more dependent on internal population growth than conversion.

Another Bible distribution advantage is the factor of finance. The United States, the world’s richest and more powerful country, is the largest financer of Christian organizations and plays a huge role in marketing the Holy Book.

In the United States, Bible publishing is big business in which annual Bible sales are worth between $425 and $650 million, according to The Economist. Publishing house Thomas Nelson alone made $473 million in 2005. Moreover, secular publishers have also jumped into the rising religious bookselling market. HarperCollins recently bought the Bible publishing house Zondervan.

American Bible marketers have drawn on modern technology to sell and spread the Bible, including the Internet, TV and radio stations, palm pilots, cell phones, MP3 players, and iPods.

Christians have thus far found more ways of getting the Bible in the hands, computer monitors and iPods of people around the world than Muslims. Currently, there are some 2 billion Christians in the world compared to 1.5 billion Muslims. But Muslims are growing at a faster rate than Christians, moreso due to birth rates than conversion.

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  • Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Khanson and aritonang

    Both of you could have a had a fruitful discussion but the essence of discussion did not surface. One could only have a fruitful discussion when respect and dignity are maintained to discussing parties. I could see the harshness of khanson but aritonang; you were a abusive.

  • Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:44 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Dear Khanson,
    You are a liar similar to 'doubt casting serpent' on the Book of Genesis 3: 4-5

    Take heed of what your book the false Al Qur'an support your comment of "For Muslims, human life is sacred and it shall be preserved"

    Qur'an Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

    Qur'an Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

    Stop, confess your sin, embrace our Lord Jesus Christ and got saved, live eternal live and leave life of lies, hatred and violence.

  • Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:44 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    From Indonesia,

    Bible beats Al Qur'an on the holy book war because that is God's (Yahweh and not Allah) plan.

    Compare these verses in order to determine which was in true (Christian Bible) and which one is false (Al Qur'an)

    John 3: 16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    Qur'an Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

  • Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    for the individual who delete both my last comments here, why the need for censorship?
    do you act like danny2/danny/first/bob when confronted and loose a debate?

  • Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:23 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    aritonang

    I had thought that you are not a good Christian and you confirmed it by using indecent language against me and in this religious forum. In this forum we exchange our convictions and do not spray dirt on others. No matter how much you hate Islam and Muslims; it is customary for Muslims to revere Jesus Christ as Unique Messenger Prophet Of Almighty The-God. On the day of Judgement, you would remember that I conveyed the truth and Islam / Shalom has been the religion of all Prophets.

    Since you have morally lost my confidence in exchanging knowledge and values what Jesus Christ taught, I would advise you to read Gospel for the guidance. Until then you do not deserve an answer to your post from me. I wish you had kept the devil out of you and stuck to the guidance of Jesus Christ.

  • Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:12 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Dear Khanson,
    You are a liar similar to 'doubt casting serpent' on the Book of Genesis 3: 4-5

    Take heed of what your book the false Al Qur'an support your comment of "For Muslims, human life is sacred and it shall be preserved"

    Qur'an Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

    Qur'an Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

    Stop, confess your sin, embrace our Lord Jesus Christ and got saved, live eternal live and leave life of lies, hatred and violence.

  • Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:49 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    aritonang

    You are not the Christian by convictional reasons but you are the Christian with economic reasons. For Muslims, human life is sacred and it shall be preserved. Unfortunately, Christians carry on peaceful Muslims in Philippine, Afghanistan, Iraq, South Sudan, Chechnya and Balkan. Unfortunately, not many Christians came to show their love of humanity.

  • Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:49 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    From Indonesia,

    Bible beats Al Qur'an on the holy book war because that is God's (Yahweh and not Allah) plan.

    Compare these verses in order to determine which was in true (Christian Bible) and which one is false (Al Qur'an)

    John 3: 16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

    Qur'an Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

  • Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:54 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    jesus4me.....Cont

    'The concept of Trinity is not the teaching of Jesus Christ'. 'If the Trinity is not a Biblical teaching, how did it become a doctrine of Christendom'? Many think that it was formulated at the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E. That is not totally correct, however. The Council of Nicaea did assert that Christ was of the same substance as God, which laid the groundwork for later Trinitarian theology. But it did not establish the Trinity, for at that council there was no mention of the Holy Spirit as the third person of a triune Godhead.

    Why, for thousands of years, did none of God's prophets teach his people about the Trinity? At the latest, would Jesus not use his ability as the Great Teacher to make the Trinity clear to his followers? Would God inspire hundreds of pages of Scripture and yet not use any of this instruction to teach the Trinity if it were the "central doctrine" of faith?

    Are Christians to believe that centuries after Christ and after having inspired the writing of the Bible, God would back the formulation of a doctrine that was unknown to his servants for thousands of years, one that is an "inscrutable mystery" "beyond the grasp of human reason," one that admittedly had a pagan background and was "largely a matter of church politics"?
    The testimony of history is clear: The Trinity teaching is a deviation from the truth, an apostatizing from it.

    But you are so much entrenched in your belief, you cannot see the truth beyond your perception. I am glad that a minority of Christians (30 Millions) believe that The-God is one and Trinity is based on Greek mythology which Paul (Saul) invented. My job is to convey you the truth in worshipping ONE-GOD. By worshipping One-God; you go to heavens, I will be happy to let you land in heavens. I do not need anything from you but I am serving the Honour of Almighty The-God.

  • Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:47 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    jesus4me

    The doctrine of the Trinity is the conservative Christian belief inherited from Greek pagan religions that there is one God who has revealed Himself in three persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three persons make up their God. These three persons are alleged to be of the same substance, equal in power and glory. This is the sacrilegious conservative Christian belief categorically opposed by Almighty The-God in the religion of Islam / Shalom.

    The Old Testament clearly states that there is only one God.
    Deuteronomy 6:4 states, "Hear Oh Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one".
    Isaiah 44:6 states, "I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides me".

    Clearly, these biblical verses reveal that there is only one God. Yet, zealots in Christianity have fabricated three separate persons in the New Testament who are allegedly called god and give the characteristics only God can have that is a shameful blasphemous belief.

  • Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:04 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

    kahanson, i meant Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:26. sorry, i mistyped Genesis 1:16 here.

    "In a similar manner, although not the same, God is ONE GOD, but composed of three different persons. He is God, the Father, God the Son (the Word that was made flesh), and God the Holy Spirit referred to in Genesis 1:1, and Genesis 1:16."

  • Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:02 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    continued to khanson:

    In Addition, in the Gospels, why would the Apostle John who walked with Jesus make mention of Jesus being in the beginning of Creation??????????

    John 1 (New King James Version)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.



    John 1
    The Eternal Word
    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.

    khanson, I don't believe in 3 different god's when I say I believe in the Trinity. I'll put it as imple for you as possible in human terms; when God said in Genesis let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, He made man as 1) body, 2) soul (i.e. mond, emotions, your conscience, etc), and 3) spirit. Now I wouldn't say there are 3 "men" walking around when I see one man, because all men, and women are created with a body, a soul, and a spirit.

    In a similar manner, although not the same, God is ONE GOD, but composed of three different persons. He is God, the Father, God the Son (the Word that was made flesh), and God the Holy Spirit referred to in Genesis 1:1, and Genesis 1:16. khanson, there are many more Scriptures in the Old Testament Law ad Prophets (Torah, Pentateuch, and the Prophets), as well as the Gospels, and the Epistles in the New Testament; ad lastly the Book of Revelation whcih will prove that God set His Son Jesus Christ to redeem the world of sin. If you are trully honest with what you claim to believe, then you will investigate this for yourelf. I have no doubt based on the Old ad te New Testament that Jesus Christ is Deity (meaning part of the Triune Godhead). This is wy I asked you if you knew what te word Elohim meant, because Elohim is a plural for God in Hebrew. Just like when Jesus used words like Yahweh to refer to Himself in the New Testament as God as well. See khanson, it is not the Old and New Testament that have a problem; it is you my friend. I do not follow Paul, or anyone else But God the Father the One and Only God Creator of Heaven and Earth, but I d this thru His plan of Redmption which was His Son Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit of God drew me to Jesus Christ as the bridge to God. See, the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ all point to the Father God.

  • Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:01 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Genesis 1:1 and 26
    Genesis 1 (New King James Version)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.



    Genesis 1
    The History of Creation
    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was[a] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

    In Hebrew:

    26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[b] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
    khanson, if God is not One God part of a Trinity, then why is there mention of the Spirit of God in Genesis 1:1, and mention of the word "US" in 1:26??????????

    khanson, if Elohim is a not plural in the Hebrew for God, ten why did God say: "“Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness" in Genesis 1:26.

  • Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:48 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    jesus4me

    As per the Jewish theology; Elohim refers to The-God which Jesus cried with (Eloi) while on the Cross. Eloh, Elohim, Eli, Eloi and Ilah are the synonyms referring to The-God.

    In my dream Jesus Christ did not say that he is god or son of god but his appearance (descension) did prove that he is coming back to take the lead of strict monotheists unlike you. If you follow him literally as per his guidance in Gospel, you will enjoy a better life than what you do now. Thou shall worship Lord The-God: the deity of Jesus Christ whom Jesus Christ worshipped.

    If you sing the trinity song - "which other distractors from The-God" - have been living with then you are not a true Christian but you are following St Pauls Christianity not of Nazrene.

  • Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:29 am Agree: 6   Disagree: 1

    khanson wrote:

    "jesus4me: My concept and my faith about Jesus increased manifold but it strenghtened exactly how Almighty The-God highlighted him in The-Qur'an."

    khanson, I do not doubt that you had a dream about Jesus. However, i want you to seriously evaluate something. Did this Jesus you saw in your dream tell you to follow Him and Worship Him? If not, the Jesus you saw is not the Jesus of the Bible. The Apostle Paul, a serious persecutor of Christians and member of the Pharasees was struck down with blindness on the road to Damascus (after he had been present and witnessed the stoning death of Steven the Christian) by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Jesus Himself asked Paul, "why do you persecute me?", and Paul asked "who are you LORD?". Clearly here you see Paul having a dramatic conversion experience, and he was commanded to see Annanias. God had spoken to Annanias about Paul and was commanded to lay hands on his eyesight. Paul turned from a religious zealot who legalistically followed the Jewish Torah into a born again person who saw the Risen Lord Jesus Christ. He never turned back and preached Christ to others; even to his martyrdom.

    For more info, see:

    Acts 9:12
    And in a vision he has seen a man named Ananias coming in and putting his hand on him, so that he might receive his sight.”
    Acts 9:11-13 (in Context) Acts 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Acts 9:13
    Then Ananias answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much harm he has done to Your saints in Jerusalem.
    Acts 9:12-14 (in Context) Acts 9 (Whole Chapter)
    Acts 9:17
    And Ananias went his way and entered the house; and laying his hands on him he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you came, has sent me that you may receive your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.”
    Acts 9:16-18 (in Context) Acts 9 (Whole Chapter)

  • Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:17 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    Again khanson i say to you:

    IF you knew the Jesus Christ of the Holy Scriptures; the Son of God as Deity personally like we do, maybe you would have a smile on your face when you post instead of the bitter, angry look ALL THE TIME YOU POST. You also may want to check the meaning of the word ELOHIM in the Torah. It may answer your questions concerning the Trinity All one God in three persons - God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

  • Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:04 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    jesus4me

    Who would know Jesus Christ (PBUH) more than me. It was the year 1991, I had a dream, a dream full of divine atmosphere and even the devil with its all worldly glitterings would not dare to interfere.

    In the dream, I found myself somewhere between Mount Sinai and the Negev Desert. I saw a throne descending from the sky to a pulpit of mountain. From the throne descended Jesus son of Mary (PBUH).

    His hairs were black like curly short and he was as tall as often portrayed of him. He looked of wheat colour and his eyes were brown. He was well built and looked as a person with strong handcraftshift. Then someone came from the south of Sinai and told, Oh Jesus you are here - now onwards you are the leader of the believers. Then my eyes opened.

    The first thing I did was to enquire about Jesus Christ's physical appearance from a biblical scholar. He described him from the bible exactly what I saw and said to me "My son - God bless you, His discension is very near". {how near it could be an imagination - only The-God knows}.

    I wondered how Europeans idolized him with blue eyes and white skinned colour. That was not to be found and not to be found in the bible too.

    jesus4me: My concept and my faith about Jesus increased manifold but it strenghtened exactly how Almighty The-God highlighted him in The-Qur'an.

  • Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:47 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

    by the way khanson, if you knew Jesus personally like we do, maybe you would have a smile on your face when you post instead of the bitter, angry look ALL THE TIME YOU POST.

  • Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:47 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    khanson, every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD; that means that He is Deity. I worship Him as God the Son. The Only Mediator between God and Man. I glorify Him, and praise Him as the One and Only One who bore the sins of the world on the cross when he was crucified. But it dodn't stop there; no, He and He alone rose from the dead. There were more than 50 eye witnesses who saw the Risen Lord. One day you too khanson will bow your knee and acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord. Better do it now, than when you meet your maker. I forgive you for your spiteful remarks. You are in ignorance like we once were. I will continue to pray for you, that the eyes of your heart may be open to the one truth - Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes unto the Father (God) except thru Him. John 14:6.

  • Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:39 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    khanson: repent, and turn from your unbelief, ask God to forgive you and ask Jesus Christ to be LORD and Savior in your life. I pray that by the power of God's Holy Spirit, you wil be convicted of your ignorance, and will turn from your unbelief into fellowship with your Creator God thru Jesus Christ, the Son of God who was crucified, died, and was resurrected from the dead on the third day and now sits at the right hand of the Father God.

    John 14:6 (King James Version)
    King James Version (KJV)

    6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    1 Timothy 4:1
    [ The Great Apostasy ] Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
    1 Timothy 4:1-3 (in Context) 1 Timothy 4 (Whole Chapter)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


    2 Timothy 4:3
    For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
    2 Timothy 4:2-4 (in Context) 2 Timothy 4 (Whole Chapter)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


    2 Peter 2:1
    [ Destructive Doctrines ] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
    2 Peter 2:1-3 (in Context) 2 Peter 2 (Whole Chapter

  • Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:20 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 4

    DJK24

    Let us see what The-Qur'an has said about Jesus Christ (PBUH). Almighty The-God sent Archangel Gabriel to The Last Messenger Muhammad (PBUH) with answers from Almighty The-God against the question ceratin disbelievers asked. The verses are for your observation:-

    "The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be" and he was" . This is the truth from your Lord; do not harbor any doubts" . If anyone argues with you, despite the knowledge you have received, then say, "Let us summon our children and your children, our women and your women, ourselves and yourselves, then let us invoke GOD's curse upon the liars."Absolutely, this is the narration of the truth. Absolutely, there is no god except GOD. Absolutely, GOD is the Almighty, Most Wise. If they turn away, then GOD is fully aware of the evildoers " {The Qur'an - Surah Ale Imraan (Chapter: The Amramites) 03: 59 - 63}.

    Thou Mohammad: "Say, "Oh followers of the scripture (Torah & Gospel), let us come to a logical agreement between us and you: that we shall not worship except GOD; that we never set up any idols besides Him, nor set up any human beings as lords beside GOD".

    If they turn away, say, "Bear witness that we are submitters (to The-God) in Peace. "Oh followers of the scripture, why do you argue about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Do you not understand? You have argued about things you knew; why do you argue about things you do not know? GOD knows, while you do not know.

    Abraham was neither Jewish, nor Christian; he was a monotheist submitter (to The-God) in Peace. He never was an idol worshiper.The people most worthy of Abraham are those who followed him, and this prophet (Muhammad), and those who believe. GOD is the Lord and Master of the believers {The Qur'an - Surah Ale Imraan (Chapter: The Amramites) 03: 64 - 68}.

  • Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:44 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    khanson

    I am aware of what Muslims believe about the Injil. But none of this answers my question.

  • Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    DJK24

    Thank you for the comments on my postings. I respect you as a faithful Christian but the contentions should presented without hurting anyones feelings. I as a strictly monotheist believer have following comments about the Bible as a whole:-

    Islamic View of Bible:
    In Islam, the Bible is held to reflect true unfolding revelation from Almighty The-God; but revelation which had become corrupted or distorted in its handing down which necessitated the giving of The-Qur'an to Mohammed (PBUH), to correct this deviation. The revelations to Last Messenger Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) contains the rectified verses from the bible which were either corrupted or exsegesied in erroneous manners. Almighty The-God commends that His Last Testament Qur’an would not be allowed to be corrupted by human interventions because no further revelations would come after this till the Day of Judgement.

    Thus Muslims regard the bulk of Christian Scriptures as interpolated, but interpolation still implies retention of some original truths. There is no doubt that the general conviction of most Muslims is that the Bible contains original revelation from Almighty The-God but is supposedly corrupted to one degree or another.

    Specifically, The-Qur'an identifies books known as the Tawrat (the Torah), the Zabur (the Book of Psalms), and the Injil (the Gospels) as genuine divine revelations taken from the same Guarded Tablets as the Qur'an itself and brought by true messengers to both Jews and Christians respectively.

    Together with The-Qur'an itself, and the now unknown Suhuf-i-Ibrahim ("Scrolls of Abraham"), these make up the divine books, the Islamic holy books. Belief in the divine inspiration of all of these books is one of the fundamental tenets of Islam.

    Muslims believe in progressive revelation, that the revelation of Almighty The-God (Alloh) changed with time and different groups of people. Thus, the Qur'an specified that the corrected Injil and Tawrat are in The-Qur'an, which retained the truth of divine books.

  • Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:21 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    khanson

    I am just now joining your discussion. I sense you are a person who believes whole heartedly in the sovereignty of the one true Creator of the universe who's will and plan can not be thwarted. Evil may try to resist but His truth can not be undone or covered up.

    I believe this too. That why it is amazing to me that you have so little regard for His holy sovereignty when you say that a major portion of His holy revealed truth, the Gospels, was defiled and swept away for all eternity. What kind of impotent God would allow such a thing to happen? Certainly not an all powerful God. Certainly not one worth worshiping. But we do have one worth our admiration and faith.

    Therefore we have to find that He has not failed but has kept his Word true and pure in the Gospels. The challenges that many bring forward to its authority can be easily answered if you will investigate and dwell on it. Of course there are many who still reject the authenticity of God's Holy Word in the Gospels but they also deny his sovereignty.

    I do not know you but I believe you to be a person who holds to His unwavering authority & power. If that is the case hold that belief in His power to protect the eternal truth of the Gospels.

  • Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:37 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 4

    holito8

    We Muslims recpgnize Torah, Gospel, Psalm as book of Almighty The-God. And as such those who recognize these books are considered in Islam as people of The-Book. You are related to me as "People of The-Book".

    Since Bible has been coerced by human zealots of Christianity, Almighty The-God corrected the coerced part and sent it down through Gabriel to ensave it in The Last Testament Qur'an. Which Almighty The-God promised as "infallible".

    A learned Muslim (Reverend) would claim on that basis the follower of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and of Last Messenger Muhammad (Peace is Upon Them All). A Muslim is honoured to be equipped with true knowledge of all divine books whether you like it or dislike it.

    holito8: I am sympathetic to you because you do not know the truth. Unfortunately, we argue and counter argue ending up in hot debate. You center your study upon One-God. Make research by reading whatever material you could gather and compare them all with The-Qur'an. Use your senses and seek the guidance of Almighty The-God. Since God is just One - His Almighty would never fail you. But beware of Devil, Devils inpirations and Devilish dreams.

  • Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:27 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    You take whole bible as word of God, I take Bible part word of God and majority human inscriptions.

    khanson, do you hold the-Qur'an as completely holy? Then you discount the Bible which Christians hold completely holy if you do. Your book does not superceede our.
    I take the Qur'an as human inscriptions. There are small fact in it but nothing divinely inspired.

  • Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:47 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    holito8

    Every human has a right to present truth as per his knowledge. Certainly, you as a reader of Bible would refer what you read. I am reading Torah, Psalm, Gospel and The-Qur'an, my domain is comparative religion. You take whole bible as word of God, I take Bible part word of God and majority human inscriptions.

    I do respect your belief but I could not contribute to your beliefs. As long as long there is a desire to exchange knowledge, this website would show a valuable place to enhance knowledge. The moment insults are created out of jealousy that would not be godly but devilish. You are human, I expect you to fight Devil in you and outside of you.

  • Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    holito8

    You are wrong. Aaron was not or ever a prophet. He was a high priest. High Priest are different from prophets. Joseph was chosen as leader of the people to replace Moses. He was also not a prophet. David was not a Prophet nor was Moses. Jesus was not only a prophet. David was King, not a prophet. Moses was not a prophet. God, Himself, told this to Aaron and Miriam. Jesus was the Son of God; Yes he prophesied but he went beyond that. He healed and offered salvation thru belief in Him. No, prophet ever could make a claim as that.

    As per The-Qur'anic knowledge: What you write is not only erroneous but blatant denial of truth.

  • Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:30 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    The inconsistencies that arise between Mohammed and Jesus and the apostles are enough to exclude Mohammed as a Biblical prophet. Jesus stated sent the apostles out as lambs among wolves to present Jesus as the representation of YHWH to the world; whereby He would become known among to the rest of the world. The pivotal points in Jesus’ life are His death and resurrection. Both are allegedly denied by Mohammed, on what I believe to be philosophical grounds in result of their greatly distant definition of Allah, of which include:
    1. Allah could not have a son.
    2. Jesus was too perfect to die.
    3. Since Jesus did not die, His resurrection is dismissed.

    There is more evidence for the death of Jesus alone than perhaps any other event in Jesus’ life. The historical record is so plentiful that even atheists take His crucifixion as a given. No serious historian, other than Muslims would consider the idea of Mohammed being an authority on the subject. If for no other reason, the simple fact of the enormous gap between the events and Mohammed’s writing. I understand that the Quran is said to be the words of Allah, but it should not be given priority if it does not match historical events. This being said, it logically would follow that:
    1. The Quran is not divine.
    2. If divine, Allah and YHWH are not the equivalents.
    3. If it is inspired by Allah, then he is a demonic entity.
    4. This is proved in the fact that Mohammed covers up the salvation of YHWH.

  • Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Sorry but my Bible has no mention of Muhammad. So I cannot validate his anointing as messenger prophet. I do see Samuel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Eziekel, Daniel, Hoea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi. Now these are all the Major prophets of the Bible. Jesus comes next as the Son of God. But there is no mention of Muhammad anywhere in my Bible. Let me know where to look.

  • Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:25 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Here are some scriptures on
    Aaron: Numbers 18:1-32
    David anointed as king: Samuel 16:1, 13.

  • Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:07 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Correction:

    Here's some interesting news on the Quran,

    http://online.wsj.com/article_email/article_print/SB120008793352784631-lMyQjAxMDI4MDEwMjAxODI3Wj.html

  • Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Numbers 12:2-8
    So Miriam and Aaron said, “Has the Lord indeed spoken only through Moses? Has He not spoken through us also? And the Lord heard it.
    Now the man Moses was very humble, more than all men who were on the face on the earth.
    Suddenly the Lord said to Moses, Aaron, and Miriam, “Come out, you three, to the tabernacle of meeting!” So the three came out.
    Then the Lord came down in the pillar of cloud and stood in the door of the tabernacle and called Aaron and Miriam. And they both went forward.
    Then He said, “Hear now My words:
    If there is a prophet among you, I, the Lord make Myself known to him in a vision; I speak to him in a dream.
    Not so with My servant Moses; He is faithful in all My house.
    I speak with him face to face, even plainly, and not in dark saying; and he sees the form of the Lord.

  • Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:03 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    All Prophets are not Messengers but all Messengers are Prophets. Prophets are the chosen people of Almighty The-God who are inspired by divine commands like Aaron, Joseph and Yakob etc. But Messengers receive the book of Almighty The-God like Abraham, David, Jesus, Moses and Muhammad (SAW). They get insiration but also visited by Arcangel Gabriel. That is why all Messengers could be referred as Messenger Prophets of Almighty The-God.

    You are wrong. Aaron was not or ever a prophet. He was a high priest. High Priest are different from prophets. Joseph was chosen as leader of the people to replace Moses. He was also not a prophet. David was not a Prophet nor was Moses. Jesus was not only a prophet. David was King, not a prophet. Moses was not a prophet. God, Himself, told this to Aaron and Miriam. Jesus was the Son of God; Yes he prophesied but he went beyond that. He healed and offered salvation thru belief in Him. No, prophet ever could make a claim as that.

    You claim I am wrong. But I take this directly from the Bible. This is a Christian website based on Bible teaching. If can understand, speak on Biblical truths. I can show you every Scripture that supports what I am saying. I will provide them soon. You can check in you Bible for proof.

  • Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    holito8

    All Prophets are not Messengers but all Messengers are Prophets. Prophets are the chosen people of Almighty The-God who are inspired by divine commands like Aaron, Joseph and Yakob etc. But Messengers receive the book of Almighty The-God like Abraham, David, Jesus, Moses and Muhammad (SAW). They get insiration but also visited by Arcangel Gabriel. That is why all Messengers could be referred as Messenger Prophets of Almighty The-God.

    Since this discussion was understood to be the exchange of knowledge not the denial of knowledge, you chose to deny the knowledge. Knowledge can be given only to those who wish to learn but Guidance could be given only by Almighty The-God. I as a human, I am not the giver of guidance but conveyer of truth.

    You have an inherited right of choice, you choose and face the consequence of it. Unfortunately, you chose out of jealousy, anger and prejudice. Pray to Lord The-God and seek His Guidance. If your intentions are for the true guidance - Almighty The-God would never fail you.

  • Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:37 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    What is this Messenger Prophet Abraham? This shows a lack of understanding. Its a double negative. Messenger prophet. A prophet is defined as a messenger of God.

    How dare you accuse Messenger Prophet Abraham (PBUH) having illegitimate relation with Hagar? All the prophets and Messengers of God never commit adultery and those who claim and accuse The-God’s Prophets of adultery are punished in this world and the world hereafter. No wonder, it is the teaching of such nature which has made quite chink of Europe and North America as illegitimate children of their parents. Be ashamed of such teachings.
    Abraham married Hagar by the will of Almighty The-God though Hagar belonged to a princely family of Egypt but her father gave her into the wedlock to Abraham so that she could bear child for him as Sarah was earlier considered barren. Hagar was also required to assist first married Sarah and the first married had her own status.

    That is not true Hagar was never Abraham's wife. She was the hand maiden of Sarah.

    The Israel today allows Gay Pride Parade in Jerusalem. The Israel of Today has allowed adultery to prevail and Israel of Today has allowed discrimination against humanity in the land of Abraham. Do you think Almighty The-God would tolerate such excesses by so-called chosen people any longer? No doubt, the dooms day is near when Jesus Christ comes back and destroys the evils perpetrated by the eviltual people of the land.

    Just because the Jews are not doing right does not mean God has cast them away. Your understand is yes. But God has mercy on whom He wills and He has compassion on whom He wills. It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy. You can disagree all you like but it will not matter.

  • Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:08 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Holito8

    “Sarah added Hagar trying to aid God”.
    Since when a human started aiding God – may be your manmade god yeas. Certainly not Almighty The-God; The Creator Lord of Universe

    “Children outside of the wedding bed are considered illegitimate”.
    I doubt your legitimacy as an understood man of God. How dare you accuse Messenger Prophet Abraham (PBUH) having illegitimate relation with Hagar? All the prophets and Messengers of God never commit adultery and those who claim and accuse The-God’s Prophets of adultery are punished in this world and the world hereafter. No wonder, it is the teaching of such nature which has made quite chink of Europe and North America as illegitimate children of their parents. Be ashamed of such teachings.

    Abraham married Hagar by the will of Almighty The-God though Hagar belonged to a princely family of Egypt but her father gave her into the wedlock to Abraham so that she could bear child for him as Sarah was earlier considered barren. Hagar was also required to assist first married Sarah and the first married had her own status.

    The Israel today allows Gay Pride Parade in Jerusalem. The Israel of Today has allowed adultery to prevail and Israel of Today has allowed discrimination against humanity in the land of Abraham. Do you think Almighty The-God would tolerate such excesses by so-called chosen people any longer? No doubt, the dooms day is near when Jesus Christ comes back and destroys the evils perpetrated by the eviltual people of the land.

    Do you speak Tagaluk?

  • Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:04 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    You know very well that Almighty The-God promised the land for the children of Abraham. The first born to Abraham is Ishmael through Hajar and Isaac is second born to Sarah. For Muslims both were the prophets and Almighty The-God blessed both.

    You are correct God did bless both of them because both were of Abraham seed. However, you overlook one main feature. God said when a man and woman are married they become one flesh. God told Sarah she would bring for the Child of the promise. Hagar was not appart of the conversation. Sarah added Hagar trying to aid God. God did not ask nor request her help. Now if Sarah is the wife of Abraham and She has a child with her husband. Who is the first born from that union? Now if you can't figure it out let me know. I will try and explain again. Children outside of the wedding bed are consider illigimate. But God bless Ishmael any way. He only recieved half a blessing. Sarah carries the other half which only Issac could recieve thru her.

    You miss read the Bible again. If you follow where Abraham came and walked, God people are in a portion of the Land He promised them. The Jews live in the Promise Land, that why it is called Promised land. God told them when they arrived to Kill everything on the land. But they did not. God told them the people who remain would be a thorn in their side. And we see constant fighting. A thorn hurt from time to time as long as it remains.

    As far as blessed community of Israel, they roamed not only 40 years in Sinai wilderness but they were sacattered all over Europe only to be persecuted by Medieval Christians. Anti-Semitism grew and got strength in Christian Europe. If accounts to be believed, millions of Jews were killed by Christians in Europe. It seems that was the destiny Almighty The-God wanted for them.
    God held them in the wildreness of Sinai; They had to follow the cloud of God which the angel was in. For your informtion, God held the in the water till the old man was dead and a new people came out. Old Isreal rebelled; and God destoryed the old man. But a new man emerged from the water. He was able to enter into the Promised land.
    God again scatter Isreal because of her wavering faith.

  • Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:06 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Holito8

    You know very well that Almighty The-God promised the land for the children of Abraham. The first born to Abraham is Ishmael through Hajar and Isaac is second born to Sarah. For Muslims both were the prophets and Almighty The-God blessed both. As you see, the children of Abraham through Ishmael inhibit all over the Middle East that is where the promise came true. As far as jews are concerned, they are welcome to live in Middle East anywhere they wish but not as oppressors. What they do in Palestine today is oppression - God never allows that kind of oppression.

    As far as blessed community of Israel, they roamed not only 40 years in Sinai wilderness but they were sacattered all over Europe only to be persecuted by Medieval Christians. Anti-Semitism grew and got strength in Christian Europe. If accounts to be believed, millions of Jews were killed by Christians in Europe. It seems that was the destiny Almighty The-God wanted for them.

    But I (personally) condemn the killings and persecution of Jews in Europe. If someone to be reprimanded for committing crimes against Jews, it should be Christians of Europe. Unfortunately, Muslims pay the price of Christian attrocities against Jews.

    Learned Jews look for the Golden Time for them when Muslim rulers protected them and secured them as zimmies (Govt. responsibilities) which was an equal citizenship within Musoim empire. The critics for the sake of anti-Islamism, deny the Islamic hospitality for Jews and Christians in Muslim lands.

    Time is clicking, no one has seen tomorrow. Violence breeds hatred and hatred generates attrocities and attrocities bring destruction. I am sure no one wants destruction - let the peace prevail over war now.

  • Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:52 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    But Jews even revolted against Moses (PBUH) and made statue Calf to worship rather than worshipping Almighty The-God. They were severely punished during the Moses and Aaron time.

    This matters not God chose the Jews and that has not changed.

    Unless and until justice is given to Muslims in Palestine, unless and until Christian evangelicals contribute to justice for the Muslims in Palestine, I do not see the cessation of overall violence and emergence of peace between these two communities. Let the Justice prevail over oppression.

    The Children(Jews) of the Promise are in the land. The Christians know better than to interfere with God plan. We have no right to try and force the Jews to do anything against God's promise. You must not have read the Bible. God gave the land to Issac the child He promised Sarah and Abraham. Sarah gave birth to Issac just as God told them. Issac is the first born and true heir. Christians follow God's word. We cannot give you justice; You are misguided to think we could. God does as God desires. Creations have no authority of the Creator. The Bible says there will be peace and that I know will come.

  • Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    There are also specific creeds and statements that are found in the epistles that have extremely close time frames to Jesus. According to scholars there is more information available in regards to the death of Christ than any other single event in Christ’s life. I am fully aware that Muslims do not believe that Jesus died on the cross, although there are ample sources that verify the Gospel accounts. There is no other logical reason for something called a church to exist apart from the death and resurrection of Christ.

    The following oral tradition that Paul learned from the apostles just a few years after Christ’s ascension reveals not only the early account of the death and resurrection, but also the veracity of the claims with testimonies upon testimonies of eyewitnesses. “For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. (1 Corinthians 15:3-8)”

  • Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    When you speak of second or third century commentaries, are you referring to the four gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?

    What I said was, “one cannot so easily shrug off the writings of the Apostles as mere second or third century forgeries,” I did not intend to be taken as to mean that they were from the 2nd and 3rd century; I was pointing out their authenticity. Some fragments include: Magdalen Papyrus 50-60 A.D. of the gospel of Matthew (Matthew 26:7-8, 10, 14-15, 22-23 and 31); Dead Sea Scroll MSS 7Q5 which is dated around 50 to 68 A.D. contains Mark 6:52-53; Dead Sea Scroll MSS 7Q4 contains 1 Timothy 3:16-4:3 predating 68 A.D.; Barcelona Papyrus (P67) containing Matthew 3:9, 15; Matthew 5:20-22, 25-28 predating 68 A.D.; Paris Papyrus (P4) containing Luke 3:23, 5:36, 66 A.D.; P. Oxyrhynchus 2 (P1), containing Matthew 1:1-9, 12, 14-20, 100 A.D.; Bodmer Papyrus (II) (Johannine Codex P66) almost complete Gospel of John near 125 A.D.

    http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/bib-qur/bibmanu.htm
    http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7547/ntmss.html#6

    In addition to the above findings, we also have early witnesses to the four Gospels:
    Clement (30- 95 A.D.) quotes from various sections of the New Testament.
    Ignatius (70-110 A.D.) knew the apostles and quoted directly from 15 of the 27 books.
    Polycarp (70-156 A.D.) was a disciple of John and quoted from the New Testament.

    None of these were the autographs; they were all copies of the original manuscripts, which push the dates of the originals back even closer to the events. There are quotes from various sources outside of the New Testament that testify to early Christian beliefs.

  • Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:23 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    January 14th - 2008
    Holito8

    Christianity is the part of same religion which every Prophet from the time of Adam to Moses to Jesus and Muhammad (Peace Be upon Them) followed. That religion is worship of Monotheistic God which Adam worshipped and followed all Messengers of God i.e. Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (PBUT). That religion is called Shalom in Hebrew, Peace in English and Islam in Arabic.

    Almighty The-God does not discriminate among his created humans. All the humans are same but in the court of God, no one would get benefit except the one who worshipped Almighty The-God alone and did not draw graven images of God. Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and etc were all from the Jewish tribe but worshipper of One-God not the man made gods of different false religions. Mind you, they may have been Jewish but they were all children of Adam. So are the humans of today.

    When we talk of bloodline we do not mean to discredit any human against others. All are the children of Adam and after the great flood, children of Noah too. It happened to be that all the prophets were sent down to the children of Israel with one simple reason: “God wanted them to reform in order to become eligible for redemption on the day of Judgement”. But Jews even revolted against Moses (PBUH) and made statue Calf to worship rather than worshipping Almighty The-God. They were severely punished during the Moses and Aaron time.

    Muslims never hated Jews and Muslims never hate anyone from the children of Adam except the aggressor. In fact history would tell you that Jews were very peaceful under Islamic rules. But cruelty upon Jews was perpetrated by Christians in Europe and who could forget the brutalities committed by Germans in WW II. All the Jews who are literary and educated would remember the golden era (The Time of Muslim Europe) when they flourished in Andalusia, Morocco, Egypt, Turkey and other Islam dominated governments.

    When Herzog vision of Jewish state of Israel was recognised, it resulted in the deaths of hundred thousands Muslim Palestinians, displacement of Million Muslims from Palestine and Europe was happy to get rid of Jews through these means. Then what you expect Muslims to be: Come and Maim Us. Resistance and opposition were created which has taken the ugly face of terrorism today.

    Unless and until justice is given to Muslims in Palestine, unless and until Christian evangelicals contribute to justice for the Muslims in Palestine, I do not see the cessation of overall violence and emergence of peace between these two communities. Let the Justice prevail over oppression.

  • Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:45 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    January 14th - 2008
    Seed planter

    Frankly speaking, I still could not understand your sense of “Continuity”. May be you could elaborate further on that issue. At this juncture, I can only suggest read the Qur’anic verses which relates to the events of Jesus Christ from his miraculous birth to Mother Mary to his upliftment to heaven by Almighty The-God.

    Your proposition to 2nd or 3rd century commentaries of evangelists of the time where you say “one cannot so easily shrug off the writings of the Apostles as mere second or third century forgeries”.

    We do have a similar situation with in the Muslim community but it does not relate to The Last Testament Qur’an but the sayings of the companions of The Last Messenger Prophet Muhammad (SAW). Such sayings are categorically referred as Hadith (single) or Ahadiths (plural). To my opinion Ahadiths are never equal to the word of God in The-Qur’an but zealots in Muslim community would leave everything to follow Ahadiths and keep The-Qur’an only for the blessings and recitation benefits.

    In my opinion, a Muslim must follow The-Qur’an and abide by the Ahadiths which do not contradict The-Qur’anic verses. Many would disagree with me within Muslim community about that matter.

    If I question the authenticity of 2nd or 3rd century commentaries from Christian evangelicals or even of today’s commentaries, such text would be opinion which may be correct and may be wrong. Such commentaries cannot be understood as word of God.

    My humble contention is Jesus was given Gospel (Injeel in Islam) but he never wrote Gospel for the people but spoke and committed in practical examples. So did him in the language of the local people Hebrew/Aramaic. I do not find any original Gospel document in Hebrew/Aramaic. When Jesus Christ was lifted to heavens, nothing was with the people except memories, tradition and the word of mouth.

    It wasn't until about A.D. 65 that these stories and sayings began to be gathered and written down in books known as the Gospels, which make up about half of what Christians call the New Testament. Such writings were written down not in Jesus language but a foreign language to Hebrew/Aramaic that was Greek.

    Scholars think that not until years after Jesus' alleged death that its authors wrote the Gospels. There exists no evidence that the New Testament came from the original apostles or anyone else that had seen Jesus. Although the oldest surviving Christian texts came from Paul, he had never seen the Jesus. The oldest copy of the New Testament yet found consists of a tiny fragment from the Gospel of John. Scholars dated the little flake of papyrus from the period style of its handwriting to around the first half of the 2nd century C.E. The language of most of the New Testament consists of old Greek.

  • Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:44 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Khanson, I am tempted to give you a thumbs up on the last post, you made some good points. The problem is Mohammed does not harmonize with the prophets of old. There is especially very little in common between Jesus and Mohammed. My question does not seem to be even slightly approached in your responses. Why is there so little continuity between Jesus and Mohammed if the latter succeeded the former? Keep in mind; one cannot so easily shrug off the writings of the Apostles as mere second or third century forgeries.

  • Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:14 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    holito8

    The only religion of Almighty The-God is Islam/Shalom which all Messengers of God preached. Being a Christian, being a Jew or being a Muslim does not gurantee you salvation. What guarantees you betterment in this world and the hereafter is your conviction and worship of ONE GOD: The God of Adam.

    Since all Messengers and Prophets preached the same message, the message of God stood the same for all humans. Mainly Jews, Chjristians and Muslims recognize that ONE-GOD but differ because of self imposed boundaries and restrictions.

    The disagreement between these three communities should not be on ONE-GOD. The highlighting the differences to the extremes is the work of Satan among the children of Abraham. You talk of differences among these three communities, see the example in Abel and Cane.

    Abel and Cane were direct blood brothers. Yet they quaralled and it resulted in violence against Abel. Cane was declared the oppressor while the subdued (Murdered) became the oppressed.

    If Jews, Christians and Muslims are stubborn and wish to fight, Satan is inviting them to do so. Why should I side with Satan. I invite people to cooperate where we have similarities in Torah, Gospel and The-Qur'an. Let us fight against evils together why weaken ourselves against Satan. Letus live with wisdom and some sense in our lives.

  • Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:41 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Christianity and Islam are not the same. God did not send Mohammed to the Christians. Question: How can Muslims follow Moses and the other prophets of Old Testament but not get along with Jews? Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and etc were all jews. Abraham had two sons that would make the people related by father. All of the Moses and the other prophets came from the line of Issac. Muslims are switching between bloodlines. You validate Christians who validate Jews as brother but yet Muslims dislike them.

  • Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:16 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    The message of all the prophets and messengers has been "THERE IS NO DEITY BUT THE-GOD AND I AM THE MESSENGER OF GOD". Such a message started by Adam who told this to everyone of his children born to him and such was the message of Noah, Abraham, David, Moses, Jesus and of Muhammad (PBUT) where the coming of human messengers finalised.

    Today there are seven billion humans stuck to their theory of religions but the truth is the one who worships ONE-GOD, the God of Adam. Other than The-God, other deities are human creations and The-Creator Lord The-God would not forgive such transgressors and idolators.

    People shall worship The-Creator not his creatures - that makes genuine sense.

    Well, every human got a choice, whatever choice one makes, faces the consequence in this world and on the Day of Judgement. May God Help Us All (A'men).

  • Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:41 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    seedplanter

    The-Qur'an is not the statement of Muhammad but it is the word of God that contains The-God's guidance, previous history, scientific knowledge and future forecast of some events. Muhammad received it through Gabriel. The-Qur'an is simply connected to God's religion which is Islam (Shalom) or Monotheism. The basic foundation of God is Monotheism. If and when you read The-Qur'an, you will find the connectivity of message from God. The connectivity starts from Adam and ends in Mushammad (Peace Be Upon All Messengers Prophets of God).

  • Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:44 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Khanson: “The-Qur'an is full of connectivity with previous Prophets and Messengers.”

    So do Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Baha’i, and many other religions and “Holy Books.” My question is to do with the continuity between Islam and Christianity. As you have plainly stated, Islam is said to be in harmony with Christianity as well as the prophets of old. We have numerous New Testament manuscripts and early quotations that date early enough to historically verify its reliability in regards to Jesus’ teachings and practices as well as His disciples. Yet what we see is not harmony but rather discontinuity between the two. Why do you think that is and what do you think it means?

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