Charismatic churches are growing in number in the Unites States, but many Americans still have inaccurate assumptions about the particular brand of Christianity, according to surveys released Monday.
Many people believe that charismatic Christianity is almost exclusively a Protestant phenomenon, but research shows that one-third of all U.S. Catholics (36 percent) fit the charismatic classification, according to the new Barna study. And nearly one-quarter of all charismatics in the U.S. (22 percent) are Catholics.
Charismatic Christians are defined in the study as those that say they have been “filled with the Holy Spirit” and believe in “charismatic gifts, such as tongues and healing, are still valid and active today.”
Another misconception is that charismatic churches belong to a strictly separate group of denominations. In reality, charismatic churches have crossed denominational boundaries in recent years. A Barna survey of senior pastors reveals that seven percent of Southern Baptist churches and six percent of mainline churches are charismatic.
There are also widespread beliefs that charismatic churches tend to be small, relatively unsophisticated congregations that are more likely to be led by female pastors. However, research suggests that congregations are about the same size as those of non-charismatic Protestant churches and are also actually more likely to use technological applications – including large screen projection systems – evaluated in the study.
Moreover, charismatic and non-charismatic Protestant churches have the same portion of churches led by a female senior pastor (nine percent).
Charismatic and Pentecostal Christians over the past decade have grown from about 30 percent to 36 percent of American adults, or about 80 million people. One out of every four Protestant churches in the United States (23 percent) is a charismatic congregation.
George Barna, who directed the research projects, commented that the growth in the charismatic and Pentecostal movements in America is not surprising because it matches the current cultural trend in mainstream society.
“The freedom of emotional and spiritual expression typical of charismatic assemblies parallels the cultural trend toward personal expression, accepting diverse emotions and allowing people to interpret their experiences in ways that make sense to them,” Barna explained. “It is not surprising that the Pentecostal community in America has been growing.”
He added that he expects charismatic Christianity will continue to grow.
“We are moving toward a future in which the charismatic-fundamentalist split will be an historical footnote rather than a dividing line within the body of believers,” Barna predicted. “Young Christians, in particular, have little energy for the arguments that have traditionally separated charismatics and non-charismatics. Increasing numbers of people are recognizing that there are more significant arenas in which to invest their resources.”
For the most part, the profile of the typical charismatic congregation is nearly the same as that of evangelical, fundamentalist and mainline Protestant churches. Four out of five (80 percent) have a full-time, paid pastor; the senior pastor is, on average, 52 years old (the same as other Protestant churches); and the weekly adult attendance is nearly equivalent to other Protestant bodies (82 adults at Pentecostal gatherings compared to 85 adults at all Protestant churches).
Yet there are significant differences between charismatic and non-charismatic congregations.
Non-charismatic congregations tend to have a larger annual operating budget, $149,000, compared to the budget of Pentecostal ministries with $136,000. Similarly, non-charismatic churches on average spent more in paying their senior pastor, $47,000 annually, than charismatic pastors who receive a compensation package averaging about $42,000.
Yet perhaps the biggest distinction between the two is the level of education of the pastors. A significant majority of senior pastors of non-charismatic churches (70 percent) have graduated from a seminary. In comparison, not quite half of charismatic pastors (49 percent) have a seminary degree.
The report is based on a nationwide telephone survey conducted by Barna in December 2007 among a random sample of 1,005 adults, age 18 and older. It also contains information from a nationwide phone survey among a random sample of 1,220 senior pastors of Protestant churches.
Take care.
Good night wilderness. May God bless you.
Yes, with God all things are possible.
Yes, I saw Online's post on Focus on the Family article. I guess he forgot about us meeting here tonight.
I wonder where Online is? GMG said she might or might not stop by. she and her husband celebrated Christmas with her husband's family Sat. She said she might be too tired to drop by.
GMG hasn't been feeling too well. The Doctors don't knowwhat is wrong. However, the doctor she just recently went to see said something about her gallbladder.
Also it is nice to have it so you can find out more about how a poster believes.
Yea, it has sure helped me. Sometimes I want to re-post some argument I made but couldn't remeber exactly what article I said it on or couldn't find it in my notepad. Now it is easier to find it though I have to go thru many pages to find it.
Many houses that have been destroyed in the area I live in are still left the way they were after the Hurricane. It cost money to tear down a house so I guess that is why. These homes are beach front home, were built up in the air, and were made out of wood, plus they were real old houses. But even some concrete houses were damaged. The eye of the storm went right over the area I live in. a lot of houses were flooded. The city is requiring thast they raise their houses 4 ft off the ground. These houses are concrete. I don't know. It is a costly endeavor.
Yes in a way but no in other ways. There is still much yard clean up to be done.
At first when you asked me to pray for you that God would open doors for you to share the gosple I thought you meant one-on-one in your everyday life and not to the masses.
Does your Pastor give you opportunities to preach in his pulpit?
That's good. Did anyone respond to the gospel?
What do you mean?
Yes, Amen.
Has God been opening up doors for you to share the gospel?
"Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:" (Ps 146:5).
Amen Wilderness1.
I am doing OK. How about you?
Anyone here?
Hi Online - glad to hear from you again. Where have you been? I don't see you posting much any more.
Hope all is well with you.
What college did your daughter decide on?
Were you affected by the LA earthquake?
Hey everyone,
It has been awhile, huh? I pray all is well with you all; God bless :)
Online,
Your Sat Jun 21 1:12pm post on Archaeologist Unearth 'World's first Church' article was flagged. I think msnchris70 flagged it. My stuff was flagged too at the same time. I guess he can't handle the truth.
Hope everything is going well for you.
God bless.
Star2,
Hi, hope all is well.
“The Hebrew Meanings of the 10 Generations Mentioned in Genesis 5”
That was interesting; the message is supported by what God’s Word already says.
I would propose that the last week of the 70 week prophecy is one complete consecutive time period. Futurists take this last 70th week and place it into the future without any biblical basis.
GMG, Online, wilderness
I have found this to be of interest too. I don't unerstand it but if it is true then we might be entering into Daniel's 70th week very soon. Something to pray about anyway.
Interview with Mark Biltz on Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2014/2015 (Pt 1) and (Pt 2)
http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/
GMG, Online4Him, wilderness
You might find this very interesting:
The Hebrew Meanings of the 10 Generations Mentioned in Genesis 5
http://www.elshaddaiministries.us/audio/more/tengen5.html
GMG
It was great hearing from you.
I can't understand why your daughter and her husband are having financial problems. I mean $4500 a month is quite a bit. I wonder what is really going on?
Do the kids miss their mom and dad?
You haven't missed much on CP, at least as far as the posting is concerned. Same kind of stuff being said. The conservatives speak basically with one voice, the Catholics are together in their stuff, and their is no change in the atheists/evolutionists.
Did you know that ireneous was a Baptist before he became a Catholic? Him and online go at it with each other all the time.
chicago24 was raised a Baptist and went to a Catholic seminary. I think he is now Catholic. His dad is a Baptist Minister. I wonder what he thinks about his son's conversion to Catholicism?
May God help these people.
Our atheist/evolutionist buddy Jerry2 and all his aliases is still the same.
Glad the storm didn't do anything worse than what it did.
Have you gotten your plumbing put in yet?
Things in general are about the same with me.
Did you get my email I sent you.
Talk with you later.
Hey star,
Been gone a while, I know. Just a quick note. Still have the kids. Took Christian to the dr. for lymph nodes that were active, he's on antibiotics now. Hard to get things done on a regular schedule with my munchkins. Have no idea how long we will have them, maybe forever? Just kidding. They're having money problems, guess they think we can be summer babysitters. We love these kids, but we weren't planning on being their parents, sig-h-h-h.
Hope all is well with you. Don't even get to read hardly any articles lately, been so busy. It's hot, we just had a major storm, even took the kids down into the "fraidy hole" the other night because of cloud rotations a few miles east of us. No tornado on the ground, but super winds and torrential rain. Split a couple of our trees. Everyone fine though.
Don't know when I can really spend any time here, just have to play it by ear. But we're fine overall, just tired and super busy.
Will talk with you later, I hope not too much later :(
Star2,
That is good to know; thanks. It happened again on an other article; hopefully this is not censorship.
Online - I called CP and reported the problem of the disappearing comments. The person who answered the phone said she would let the technical staff know about it.
Online - I don't know what happened to all those comments on that articlel as well as many others. Last Friday I contacted CP about a habitual flagging problem and asked them to restore the comments. But I also mentioned to them about the disappearing comments. I didn't hear back from them. Maybe I'll call them tomorrow about it or email them again.
Star2,
Do you know what happened to all the posts on this article - "Priest Who Mocked Clinton Told To Step Down" ? I am asking because you have actually contacted and spoken with representatives from the CP before, right?
You too wilderness. God bless.
GMG, Online, wilderness
The Emerging Church: Last Days Apostasy and a Return To Darkness" - found at: http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c29.shtml
"How to Know When the Emerging Church Shows Signs of Emerging in Your Church" - found at: http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c54.shtml
"The Inclusive Gospel" - found at: http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c66.shtml
Hello Star2, GMG, Wilderness1,
Just passing through; I pray all is well - God bless!
GMG
MuggleBorn left me a messsage on "Miracle Woman Wakes Up after Death..." . Did he ever ask you about how you came out of the Catholic Church?
The kittys that Christian and Suriah picked out are they going to be indoor cats?
That is good that Suriah hasn't broke any eggs yet. It is good to hear that your hens are laying eggs again. Have all the eggs hatched yet? How many chicks did you get?
How is your brother-in-law doing? Has he healed up from his injuries from when the horse threw him sometime back?
How was the birthday party?
Is Christi going to get the kids this weekend?
Did you get your drainage pipes laid?
Did you ever print out any of those Bible pictures from that website I gave you?
Nothing new has happened to me. Everything is the same as it always has been.
Talk with you later.
God bless.
Hello,
To my knowledge, Christi has found neither a new job nor a new babysitter, and is still with the sad excuse for a husband she saddled herself with.
The momma kitty has either moved her baby, or something else happened to it. It was there the following morning, strong and with a full belly. So only time will tell.
msnChris -- hard to understand why someone would go catholic, but guess that's his problem. None of the denominations are perfect I firmly believe, but RCC has so much paganistic ritual and such an arrogant, prideful attitude it's unbelievable. Not that we shouldn't strive for Truth, but rather to think that somehow "God's Mouthpiece" (read pope) on this earth is indeed ordained by God to be inerrant, as if any mortal can be such a thing. Not to mention history shows differently, and even by their own admission. I think I'll stick to working on growth and knowledge and understanding, letting God convict me as I go about my earthly struggles.
Busy trying to get things done outside, got quite a sunburn today from wearing a sleeveless shirt. Christian tried to give one of our cats a bath in the dog/duck water today, it's a wonder he didn't get scratched from head to toe. Suriah is busy "training" King, our 1 yr. old pup, and is actually doing a pretty good job. She's going to be the animal person for sure, just like her Grandma! They've each picked a kitten of their own, an "outside kitty" that will live at Amma's and Papa's house. They carry those babies, who are 8 weeks old, around like rag dolls. They also like to pick handfuls of grass to feed the horse. Kids and critters go together we think (except, of course, when they try to give the cats baths!!!) They like to help feed, and Suriah's job is to get the chicken eggs. She's not broken one yet!
Well, time to go, tired as usual, the kids keep me hopping along with everything else. Needs to be several of me these days.
Oh, and have you heard from Muggle lately?
Take care.
GMG - the lawyer's CP ID is logicshouldprevail. I forgot to change out my manpleaser ID to star2 in my post below.
GMG - 'believer' is a Southern Baptist. He is the Director of Missions for the Kentucky SBC. He is similar in age to me. He went to high school in the 60's like I did.
GMG
Hopefully the mother cat will bond with her kitten. If she doesn't, then you and David might become the kitty's mamma and papa.
Enjoy your grandkids while you can. Has your daughter found a new job yet or found a babysitter? Is she still with her husband?
Talk with you later.
Hello,
Will try to get in a quick note while the babies are sleeping. No tornadoes here, though they did have one a bit north of the prison the other night when David was working, got all the inmates into basement rooms, he said that was quite a chore as they wanted to go out and "look"!! No further prison trouble, got it cleaned up pretty fast, 3 dead, 6 hospitalized, 12 others hurt. All gang related, how pathetic.
Yes, I have seen ERV/Jerry/etc. Funny thing, agentorange doesn't even recognize who he is, they're doing a lot of back slapping. I think that's pretty funny. And ifeelfine continues in the camp of the non-christians, you'd think he'd start wondering at himself after awhile wouldn't you?
Saw your other two ID's, didn't know they were you. Think manpleaser needs to come up with something additional now? I like believer, the new guy. And that gal lawyer (can't remember her ID off hand right now). See the new one today, spawn of satan? That one makes me shudder, can't believe he got away with that one. Been tempted a couple of times to post, but just don't have the time to deal with it.
My daughter is making tentative noises about getting the kids this weekend, but I'll believe it when I see it. Not planning on anything until it happens. I'll miss them dreadfully when they go, but I'm so far behind on all the things needing doing that I'm getting really antsy. We had a brand new kitten yesterday that they got to see, as the momma deposited it on the step to an outbuilding, for some unknown reason. New momma, she's a bit on the wild side, hard to get close to her. But I did manage to get it close to her, and this morning it's doing fine so far, so I guess momma figured out how to feed her. Cute little thing, callico like her mom, but is dark where momma is light. Hope we can get her tame, which will be hard to do with momma so wild.
Well, need to go take care of critters and do a little more outside work, so I'll drop by later when I can. God bless, hope everything's going okay your way.
Hope you are doing OK GMG. How did the birthday party go? Has your area been affected by the tornatos? Everytime I hear tornatos touched down in OK I think about you. Has the prison gotten back to normal since the riot the other day?
jerry2 has morphed into Vaho, x, then God, and now ERVs. Friday he went balistic and flagged every entry I made that day. I think it was him, but I am not sure. It wasn't long after I psoted this comment to God:" God, I thought you didn't believe in 'God'." that he went balistic.
I created a new name, Grace2, just so I could post. I know why CP can't stop him. They will not let you create a new ID with an already existing email address. So, you have to create a new one but it doesn't have to really exist. I tried it so that is how I know. I have an ID, manpleaser, that is connected with a non-existing email address. CP accepted it. Grace2 is connected with a valid email address I have that is not the one I use as star2. pattiepie has another valid email address I created just for her.
Hope to hear from you soon.
God bless.
Hi GMG
I am doing OK.
Those people in the prisons are very troubled. They need Jesus.
Hope you have a good time over at your in-laws house. Don't eat to much birthday cake. HaHa!
Talk with you later.
Hello,
Haven't had much time to come by. Hope everything's ok. Hello to Online too! =)
Gonna go to David's folks Wednesday, his two aunts are visiting from Calif., and it's his sister's birthday, so we're going to spring for the gas and go visit. Will make for a long day with the kids, hope they hold up okay and don't get grumpy!
They had a riot today at one of the prisons, two inmates killed, around 18 injured and hospitalized, no personnel hurt praise the Lord!!! It was gang related. I'm so glad David doesn't work at one of the maximum security prisons, that's usually where this kind of stuff happens. This particular prison is known for it's troubles, and they have had a correction officer actually killed there, I think it's been a couple of years now. We decided a long time ago that he wouldn't work at anything more than a medium security prison, and I'm so thankful for that.
Just dropped by for a sec. Let me know how you're doing.
Star2,
Yes, hopefully the computer doctor will fix it soon. Maybe will chat a bit later, have a blessed day - 1Peter 5:7.
Thanks Online. You did well also; you always do.
Hopefully the computer doctor will find out what is ailing your computer and make it work right again.
Star2,
I don't know yet but we will see; read some of your posts on the article "Televangelist Hagee. . . " - well done! May the Lord continue to use us to share HIS WORD :)
Oh, OK online. Do you think that you might have picked up a trojan horse, or a virus, or something like that?
Star2,
Yeah, it definetly sounds like prophet has his hands full. My computer has been failing to reboot despite the security programs that I use; I am having someone looking into it.
I am going to call it a night Online. God bless.
Online
I haven't seen Prophet either. He is very busy I am sure. The last time I got an email from him he had been elected by his church to be a deacon plus his pastor asked him to do a series on aplogetics. I guess he is real busy doing that plus his other ministry he has in the church. He heads up a CARE ministry. That is where if there is anyone in the Church that needs help, like mow the lawn, paint the house, go grocery shopping, and etc. they can contact him and he will find someone in the church to do it or he will do it himself. Then his wife has a ministry to people who come out of prison. They help these ex-cons get back on their feet in society. I don't know all that involves. Any way he is very busy. For a living he drives an 18 wheeler delivering food items to resturants and maybe some other kind of businesses too I am not sure.
What is wrong with your computer?
Online are you still here?
Hey Star2,
I knew that EvanCal is a Reformed minister; a liberal one at that; Msn and I have debated on a couple of articles already, believer is new to me, Quecat has been around for quite some time but did not know that Quecat was a she nor did I know that she was a former catholic.
Grandma is doing well; thank the Lord. I am doing well but my computer has been acting up and that is why I have not been around lately. Prophet, RBB, and Jester have not been seen in a while; hope all is well with them.
Thanks Online4Him for reminded me that God loves me.
I am doing OK. Haven't seen you in awhile. I was glad to see your post on the "Televangelist John Hagee.." article.
I know you know EvanCal but I don't know if you know msnchris70 or believer. msnchris70 was raised a Baptist, became a Reform Minister like EvanCal but is now a Catholic. He teaches in a University. believer was raised a Catholic and even went to 2 yrs of Catholic seminary to become a Catholic Priest but got saved instead. He now is a Southern Baptist. I think he said that he is the Director of Missions for the Southern Baptist Convention. I know you know QueCat. She is also a former Cathloic.
How is everything going with you? How is your grandmother doing?
Hope to talk with someday.
God bless.
Hello GMG & Star2,
It has been a while since we last chatted and I pray all is well with you two - John 3:16.
GMG
People getting flagged has been happening alot on different articles. I guess the flagged comments were a bit to strong for some poeple with opposing views. People are getting a bit touchy these days.
I don't know what is going on with your daughter. Maybe she is really having problems with her husband and doesn't want to say. If not, I hope they aren't in to any kind of drugs or something. Have either one ever had a problem with substance abuse? Do the kids knows anything about when she is suppose to come and get them?
Now don't eat too many of those store bought eggs. You know that they are not healthy for you.
Have you heard from MuggleBorn lately?
Does having diabetes tend to make you want to sleep alot?
Did you ever get any pictures for you grandkids to color from that web site I gave you?
I am finding out that more and more people who post on CP use to be Catholic but are not now. One of them is QueCat. Another, is a guy by the name 'believer' who is new to CP. There are others but I can't think of who they are right now.
Well, I need to go.
Talk with you later.
Hi wilderness and online (for whenever you come by again!!)
Star,
Have you seen on "Survey: Jehovah's Witness...." where bunches of comments keep getting taken out, completely? Is someone going through and flagging stuff so that it is being taken out? I don't have much time lately to be here, so I would easily miss the flagging if it was happening. A mystery.....
Going to have the kids for a while longer, don't know how long though. Would guess for a while, as my daughter is whining about financial problems and babysitting. Now, I don't mean to sound heartless, but with her husband back they are making 4500 a month (she tells me), so I am having difficulty figuring out what all they are blowing their money on. Granted, in Denver that's not exactly riches, but it should be enough to pay rent and groceries and babysitting, so something is wrong here. Today's kids think they should be able to buy things whenever they want them, and heaven forbid that they should do without. Get pretty tired of that whole entitlement attitude.
Okay, enough of my soapbox. Busy, of course. Just thought I'd drop by and say hi. Got rid of two of my roosters today to a lady who can't wait to wake up to the sound of "cock-a-doodle-do" in the mornings. Got to admit, I like it myself and would miss it if we didn't have any roosters. The birds are all molting now, so we're getting hardly any eggs. May have to actually break down and buy some store eggs for the next couple of weeks - ugh!
Well, will talk with you later. God bless.
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works - 2Timothy 3:15-17.
wilderness
You really did a good job on showing that God would not build His Church on Peter on the "More southern Baptist vie for Presidency" article.
2Ti 2:1 Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.
GMG
I flagged myself. I wanted to let you all know about a blog I started and if you all wanted to be a part of it but I decided to deleted the blog so I needed to flag my post.
I believe animals sin because their behavior is sinful, at least, it is in people. I know that they have selective hearing. Like when I call my dogs to come into the house. They will look everyway but at me as if they didn't hear me and they refuse to obey and will run away from me instead of obeying. Now sometimes they will obey. So they chose to obey when they want to and they chose to disobey when they want to. If I catch them doing something they know I don't approve of and call them on it, they'll stop doing it and show facial expressions that indicate they know that they were doing wrong. It isn't the words or tone I am using because if I use the same words and tone on some behavior they don't know I disapprove of they don't react in the same way. These two examples they have learn what is 'right' and 'wrong' and they do make a choice as to whether to obey or not. But in being jealous of their babies with mom and being greedy over their food, I think it is still sinful in them but they just don't know that. Anyway, that is my opinion. Maybe you are right. I don't know. Only God knows for sure.
That is good that you get to keep the kids longer. Do they miss their mother? Their Dad?
I really felt sorry for the horse.
Talk with you later.
God bless.
Yep, it's two weeks today and I still have the kids. She hasn't said anything about not getting them or when she will get them, but this is normal. We'll be glad to keep them until they wear us out! =)
I read your news story on the racing filly. Would be interesting to know what they find when they autopsy, which I'm sure they will. Could have been a congenital weakness, and they might never know for sure.
I don't think animals sin. You have to have choice to sin, and animals don't.
Sold 3 or my ducklings and two of my chickens today to a guy who has 6 kids!! Hope they don't love those babies to death. Trying to pare down my birds to the ones I want to keep, so also am getting rid of my excess roosters, hope the others will be gone in a couple of days. Have 8 chicks total, probably half of them are roosters but I won't know for probably a month, maybe more. Sometimes you can tell because they start "squaring off" pretty young, but sometimes it takes a while longer. And then, maybe we'll luck out and get more hens this time, but usually you can count on about a 50/50 mix. We'll just have to wait and see.
What did you flag yourself for? I don't think anyone but us ever comes here anymore.
What have you been up to? I was going to change the oil and clean up the new mower today, but the wind has been so bad I decided to wait until tomorrow. Did a little more work on the ditch, but I'm kind of stuck where I am until I get the other piece I need to finish off the pipe so I can deepen the lateral line ditch a little more, and then I can put in the gravel and start filling it all in. Finished getting out all the nails I can around the barn site yesterday, but I know we'll be finding nails for a long while to come. Always something around here waiting to be done, my list doesn't ever seem to get any shorter!! Oh well, keeps me from getting bored.
Time to go, at least having the kids gets me good and tired by day's end. =) Talk to you later.
GMG
Here is a news article on the filly Eight Belles that broke both of her ankels at the Ky Derby:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24445049/
Your two weeks with the kids end tomorrow. Are you going to lose them or can they stay longer?
It looks like jealously extends to the animal world. My papa dog Benji was somewhat jealous of his puppies too. Of course, greed is most common among the animals when it comes to food. Animals are sinners no doubt.
Glad to hear that re-seating your blade did it. Isn't it amazing (and wonderful!) that sometimes a fix can be so simple.
The male duck kills the ducklings cuz they hang all around mama, and he wants mama to himself, basically. What I find crazy about it, is that when she is sitting on the nest he hangs around protecting her and being cuddly (rubbing necks, etc.). Go figure!
Thanks for the link to the site for kids things. I just gave it a quick look, will look more at it later, they even have bible study stuff for kids.
I don't know anything about a filly that broke her ankles. They do so much inbreeding in some of the stock for racers (and others that they want to preserve special abilities, like in show horses or dogs) that they get alot of recessive traits, which causes all kinds of problems. My guess would be something along that line. It is always so sad to see something like that happen.
I haven't seen any of those guys for a long time either. I knew Prophet was involved in a few things, didn't know to what extent though. Very busy guy sounds like. I would think that wouldn't give you much time for blogging, so no surprise there I would think.
Have gotten a lot of rain over the last couple of days, no hail though, thank the Lord. Almost done with my ditch, will lay the pipes as soon as I'm sure I've got enough ditch, and I finish getting the attachment I need to put in a clean-out valve. The other day I tried to find one when we went into town to run errands, but couldn't find the one I wanted. Have one or two more stores to try yet. But at least I have the sink draining into the new ditch, so that's quite an improvement anyway.
I managed a quick email to muggleborn a few days ago, thanks for letting him know I'm still around and kicking. The grandbabies do indeed keep me plenty busy. And there's always much more wash, dishes, cooking, etc. to do with them around, not to mention baths, play time, stories, etc. too. They are getting old enough that I can let them spend some time in the yard alone, which helps, but they still need constant supervision all the same, so I can't get too involved in anything unless they are right there with me. While I was digging the ditch, I put an extra wheelbarrow next to the one I was using, and they transferred dirt from mine to theirs and made "chocolate cakes" and other yummy things!!! They were also busy rescuing worms I dug up, and would transfer them to the dirt pile so that they wouldn't die. Kids are great!!!!!!
Well, it's late, so I better go. Just wanted to say hi cuz I haven't gotten here for a few days. So hi!! Talk with you later. God Bless.
GMG
I heard from MuggleBorn yesterday I think it was. I emailed him tonight. I told him that if he hasn't heard from you recently it was because you were busy and not because you have forgotten him.
GMG
I reseated the blade on the mower and it works real good now. No vibrations. Thanks for the suggestion.
GMG
Hopefully you can keep the kids longer. There is this web page called El Shaddai Ministries that has a page for children. You can get all kinds of bible pictures for kids to color. I thought you might like it for your grandchildren. The link is http://www.elshaddaiministries.us/children.html
I am getting kind of tired of posting on CP. It is the same ole stuff from all these pagans and queers. At times it seems like the are taking over. They can reject God all they want but one day God will win. For some it will be on this side of eternity but for others, unfortunately, it will be on the other side of eternity.
It sounds like it has been a lot of work digging that ditch. When are you going to lay the pipes?
How are all the veg and fruit plants doing? Did you plant any potatoes, green beans and other veg besides the peppers, tomatoes? Did you plant other fruit besides strawberries and cantelop?
Why is the male duck killing off his babies?
Did you get any hail from the storm tonight?
It was bad for that philly that the vet had to put down at the Kentuck Derby. How did she break her ankles?
My Aunt Ruby (my dad's sister) and her husband Uncle Sam use to live real close by the Kentucky Derby race track. My dad was born and raised in Kentucky but not in Louisville. My grandparents had their children in Clinton County. The city of that county is called Albany. Albany is right across the Ky - Tn border. The Tn part was Alvin York territory. My grandparents lived on a mountain in a log cabin. All the kids were born in that log cabin.
Why is Christi wanting to look for a different job? What does she do at DHS?
I haven't seen online or wilderness much.
I emailed MuggleBorn about a week or so ago. I haven't heard from him yet. He has been busy.
I haven't seen Prophet in a real long time. The last time I got an email from him he had been elected by his church to be a deacon plus his pastor asked him to do a series on aplogetics. I guess he is real busy doing that plus his other ministry he has in the church. He heads up a CARE ministry. That is where if there is anyone in the Church that needs help, like mow the lawn, paint the house, go grocery shopping, and etc. they can contact him and he will find someone in the church to do it or he will do it himself. Then his wife has a ministry to people who come out of prison. They help these ex-cons get back on their feet in society. I don't know all that involves. Any way he is very busy. For a living he drives an 18 wheeler delivering food items to resturants and maybe some other kind of businesses too I am not sure.
I can't sleep that is why I am up so late.
Well, I am going to close for now. Talk with you later.
My guess would be a bent shaft. Check to make sure the blade is fully seated, it's not that difficult to put on a new blade and have it slightly off (not firmly against the stop). Is it safe? If it's a bent shaft, probably, but it will cut poorly and ultimately "beat itself" to death. I would have it checked if it were me.
Still hatching a new batch of chicks, will probably only get maybe 4 from this group. My 11 ducklings are doing fine, as are my original 7 chicks. Have another batch of ducklings coming on in probably a couple of weeks also.
Kids are doing super, Christi said two weeks which would be up this coming weekend, but I think I'll have them longer than that, as she's said nothing about getting them. She was supposed to be babysitter hunting, and maybe job hunting, and I know as of this last weekend she had done neither. That's ok, I didn't expect anything different. And I'm still afraid that we won't get them again this summer, so I'm assuming this is the last time I'll have them for probably a year, so I'll keep them as long as I can.
Got my ditch mostly dug, about 75 feet in length up to 2 1/2 feet deep, 14 inches wide. Whew, lotsa work there. The top 1/3 or so of the ditch is rocky stuff (I think it used to be a drive area), so had to use the pick. Will probably have to make about 30 feet of it another 2-3 inches deep, which I should be able to do in a couple of hours or so, so that's not too bad. Will be glad to have that done!!!
Haven't had much time to really get on here, not much inclination either really, getting rather tired of the same stuff over and over. Anyway, really busy with the kids and all the things to do. We're supposed to have maybe some bad storms tonight, hope it doesn't hail, my male duck is in the outside pen because he'll kill the ducklings if I put him in the duck house. Always something to worry about when you have bunches of animals!
You doing ok? Sounds like you're busy with yard work. David likes his new riding mower, hope it ends up being a good solid one like our last two have been.
Gotta go, check with you tomorrow night probably. God bless.
GMG
Mike replaced the blade on the lawnmower. It started and runs but it vibrates pretty hard. What is wrong with it? Is the mower safe to use?
GMG
Hi, hope everything is going ok for you and your family.
Have all the babies hatched yet?
How much longer will you be having the kids?
When you live in the city, everyone's on the city sewer system. When you live outside the city, people have septic tanks. This is where everything drains into a really large tank, and then from the tank into what's called lateral lines. These are drain pipes with holes in them, which let the fluid drain slowly over a large area into the surrounding soil. They're usually several feet underground.
With a kitchen sink, you have what is called "grey water". In other words, it's fluid that is relativly clean, so to speak. Lots of people drain into a ditch. Or you can drain into a type of tank without a bottom and let it be absorbed into the ground, which is the type that was here. There are disadvantages to that, as the ground will get saturated sooner or later with one large source trying to be absorbed over a limited area, not to mention how bad this is for the foundation of a building when it is close to that building. We're just going to drain through a solid pipe that will then turn into a lateral line into the back yard.
We're always having kittens!!
Suriah starts school this fall, but her mom's talking about sending her to a kind of summer school.
You can sell ducklings or chicks anytime after they hatch, when their fuzzy fur is dry, but then you have to keep them under a lamp, because they can't regulate their heat until they get feathered, which happens faster for chicks than ducklings. Chickens will start laying between 5 and 6 months, depending on the breed, and their eggs start out pretty small at first, and get larger as they get older. They will usually be the size they're going to be by about 10 months or so, approximately.
Don't know how Christi and her husband are doing really. She always says "fine", until it gets really bad. I don't have much confidence, he's a jerk.
Really tired, spent most of the day digging, the kids rescued the worms (they put them in nice dirt in another pile), and fed the grubs to the chickens. They love playing in the dirt.
Gonna go, need a shower and some shut-eye. Talk to you later. =)
GMG
That is good that the baby chicks and ducks are coming into the world. How old do the ducks have to be before you can sell them? How long will it be before the baby chicks start laying eggs?
I didn't know you have more kitties. It wasn't too long ago you were trying to give me a kitty.
The drainage pipes that you are going to lay for the sink, when you put them in where will the water drain to?
I guess Suriah will be starting school this fall or is she already in school (kindergarden)?
Is Christi's relationship with her husband working out or hasn't she said?
I have been commenting on CP still but not like I use to. Sometimes it is hard to let some things go.
My doggies want to go for a walk. Talk with you later.
Quick hello. Looked at your link. Doesn't surprise me a bit. It's not a matter of if but rather when something like that will be tried. Are there any people around that would actually believe that all our technologies wouldn't lead us to this type of thing? There are many people in this world that are not interested in ethics. Satan is in charge down here.
I'm digging a ditch for a new drain outlet for the kitchen sink. This is farm plumbing, so things are often a bit different than things you find in town. There was an old drainage tank about 5 feet from the house (WAAAAAY too close, obviously), and it quit draining properly. So we are putting in lines that will drain the kitchen sink into the back yard through lateral lines.
I'm getting tired of this blog also. It's the same-old same-old. Glad you're spending more time reading the Bible. Much better reading anyway.
Have 6 ducklings that hatched out today, she has 19 eggs so we should know in the next couple of days how many will hatch. Expect to see several more by morn. Cute little things! No more chicks yet, expect some more around the 3rd or so.
Found the latest 3 kittens, momma moved them to a wood pile so we can start handling them. They're pretty scared of us of course, but looks like at least one of them will get used to us easily. The kids are having a ball with all these babies around. They're doing great, sure love having them with us. Suriah is 5 1/2, Christian is 4 1/2, both are very active and smart (I'm not prejudiced you understand). Actually, they are bright and curious, very different personalities. Lots of fun.
Will try to check back tomorrow, most probably after I get the kids to bed. See ya!
GMG
We have evolution to thank for this experimentation:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Exclusive-Should-we-beware-the.4028970.jp
What's next?
GMG
Sounds like the kids are having a good time. How many grandkids do you have? Ages? Names?
Does Christi take them to Church?
Will the mother hen get upset if the children handle the babies?
Why are you digging ditches?
Has the family that you gave that dining room set to come back with the whole family yet?
My doggie are not ill. I really don't want to go into it. Just pray that God will take care of the problem.
I told Quecat who pattiepie was. She had different ideas as to who she was but never suspected that it was me. To me pattiepie was kind of funny but I am not so sure anyone else thought so. I know, though, that I was not liked.
I am getting tired of CP. I am not wanting to post anymore. I might on occassion.
I have been spending more time reading the Bible. I am working on some stuff.
I'll keep coming back here to our meeting place though.
Hello,
Got 7 little chicks, expect more soon. The kids are mesmerized by the little things, tomorrow is the promised day for them to get to hold one, and they are excited. No ducklings yet.
Dug a ditch today, more ditch digging tomorrow I think. Kids played in the dirt, fed worms to the chickens, climbed on the horse trailer, and bugged the cats to death. Fell into bed very tired. They look like such little angels when they are asleep. We read about David and Goliath before bed, Christian calls it the Giant story. He was singing Jesus Loves Me in the bathtub. Love those babies.
What's the deal with your pups? Are they sick or something? Let me know, I'll read your answer tomorrow sometime, don't know when (after all, we have a date with the baby chicks ya know!!).
Take care, God bless.
GMG
Prayer request: Please pray that God will let my doggies eat their dog food like they should. Thanks.
GMG
I saw that stuff about cevink. I really blew it in terms of who he was. I went to his web site. He is all about himself and the fulfuling of the pleasures of him flesh. He neds to repent from his riotous living as the prodical son and come home to His Father. So much for him.
How are the grandkids? What do you pkan on doing with them while they are with you?
I wrote MuggleBorn a couple of days ago. I haven't heard from him yet .
Hopefully all the eggs will hatch.
No, you didn't tell me about the porcupine. Maybe the doggies won't run into anymore of them.
Well, I guess this is all for now.
I read agentorange on his snake opinion, he loves to come up with stuff, I think there's a website that brings up all kinds of stuff, ifeelfine uses it too I think (you know, how he says the Bible isn't literal, but it's good for faith. Huhhh?)
Our 10 acres is farm land (or was, anyway). Good soil, I think we've found 5 rocks, all less than 1 inch big, in the over 2 years we've had it. Big difference from the 30 acres we had before, I think half of that was rocks; however, we also had two real nice ponds. Sighhhh.
Don't know how long we'll have the kids, at least a couple of weeks.
We have a baby. When I went to close the chickens in tonight, I heard a little peeper, just one I think so far. Sounded nice and loud and healthy. We've got 2 hens setting, The second batch should be a week or so later than the one that's hatching now. The ducklings are due in a couple of days or so, maybe as late as the 30th. We'll see. The ducks have got 2 nests going, and I just noticed a third one tonight. We may have ducklings coming out our ears. Hope I can sell them. That would help with the feed bill!!
Saw cevink's post, you ought to email him a picture of Farah Fawcett or something, how funny is that!!
Talk to you sometime later, don't know when though, gonna be busy around here. If you talk to Muggles, tell him I haven't forgotten him, just haven't gotten to emailing back yet.
God bless.
Oh, PS. Did I tell you how the dogs all came home with porcupine quills last week? Well, a couple of nights ago, the puppy just kept barking, so I finally took the flashlight out and looked all around the direction he was facing, and couldn't find a thing. So, I turned around and headed back, and there up against the porch was this big ole porcupine, all fluffed out, about 1 foot away from the dog pen. They supposedly only have a small territory, roam about 10 or 20 acres or so, so maybe this is the same one that kept nailing all the dogs last fall. I hope so. David shot it. Maybe we won't be spending so many hours pulling quills out of the poor dogs.
GMG
Bringing up star2 and the snake and poison topic kind of gave me away. Did you read agentorange comments to pattiepie on the snake and posion topic on Expelled Explodes...?
glad you are going to get the grandchildren Saturday. How long are you going to get to keep them. When they become of school age I don't think they can come to granny's house as often.
Is all your 10 acres cleared out? Or is part of it woods?
I am sick of tliml. I think I'll put patttiepie to rest. Maybe bring her back if the occassion is right for such a person. CP still hasn't restored pattiepie's or star2's posts. I think CP restored one of pattiepie's post. Don't know why. Oh, well...
Talk to you later.
God bless.
BUUUUUSTED!!! I wondered when someone was going to challenge you. It's too hard to hide yourself indefinitely =)
I saw Jerry/George's little rant. He needs to get a life.
And I don't think CP should get rid of the flag. That's one of the things that makes this Christian site different from all those others. What they need to do is find a way to ban people like Jerry/George.
Long, busy day. Spent most of it outside, working on the barn site. High of 89, and we're both sunburned. David had fun on our new mower, I thought he was going to mow the whole 10 acres before quitting time!!! But, he only mowed about 1 3/4 acres instead.
Get the grandkids Saturday. Will sure be busy then!
Good night, God bless.
GMG
Jerry1 is now Jerry2. He said he'll become Jerry3, I think, if he is banned from CP again. Go see Fla. Senate Passes Evolution Academic Freedom Act. He is comical. At least he is now admiting that he changes his name.
GMG - agentorange figured out who pattiepie was. I confessed up. Pattiepie is for all practical purposes over. pattiepie talked to thelordismylight last night on "Evangelical Give Mixed Reactions to Pope" article. I might continue pattiepie with him for awhile.
Maybe CP should deny everybody the right to flag unless the individual wants to flag himself.
Maybe CP just restored the stuff from the complainers.
>>>>What do you mean by " lots of red in the stuff coming to us"? <<<<
You know how when the weatherman shows the radar with all the storms, and there are different colors for different intensities, and it goes from green to yellow to red to deep red, and you know that the deepest red is the nastiest storm stuff.
I am going to call it quits for the night.
GMG
The stuff that has mainly been restored is the posts by cevink, GeorgeX and Jerry1, some of agentorange and steveh20. Not everything has been restored. wilderness, pattiepie hawk59, and others have not been restored. Maybe tomorrow everything will be restored.
pattiepie told GoergeX to stop his whining and call CP himself about the flaggings. maybe he did and that is why is stuff got put back pretty quickly. Some of his stuff is questionable and shouldn't have been allowed. I wonder about CP somethimes in their judgments. If the Christians don't get restored then I am about ready to conclude that CP is definetly biased to the pagans on this site.
What do you mean by " lots of red in the stuff coming to us"?
Speaking of sleepy......think I'll go take a nap.
Besides, lots of red in the stuff coming to us, not a good time to have the computer on. this stuff is supposed to stay with us into the evening, so depending on what happens (they're talking supercells), have to see if I can come back later.
There must be stuff that will block a computer, not just an online name. Seems to me they should do this.
Same ole same ole. Verrrry stormy, making me sleepy. Water all over outside, not a good day for doing stuff there.
How do you get rid of Jerry1 and etal?
How is everything going for you?
I know, I know!! (waving hand in the air)
GET RID OF JERRY/GEORGE/FIRST/DANNY.
HaHa!
i just called CP. The technical staff in in an all afternoon meeting discussing this very problem of flagging. I ask if CP would for ever monitor the flaggings to see if they were worthy of being flagged and if not then to restore the flagged comment.
>>>>star2 don't mind. star2 is nice.<<<<<
Ahhhhh, how nice of pattiepie. We'll have to make sure star2 knows she has a fan!!!!! =)
Yeah, I saw that, but I am still not convinced he is cevink. But time will tell us for sure, it always has.
Be interesting to see what they do with all that flagging. If I were them, I'd be getting pretty tired of it.
No ma'am, I am not flagging Jerry1. he has gone nuts again. I still say he is cevink. seedplanter accused him of being all of Howard's alias and he did not answer the insinuation. Howard and etal never does.
CP is suppose to call me about all the flagging. They said they have been getting a lot of calls about it. I am going to ask them to review all the flaggs to see if they were worthy of being flagged. If not, then please restore.
Hello
Are you flagging jerry1?
Re: We were going to the little church in the little town down the road, but we're going to try some others. Have to figure out which others first.
God says in His Word that He gives you gifts and He places you in a Church body according to His will. It is for the intent of you using your gifts for the body and of course, they use their gifts to minister to you according to your need at the time.
When I go to a new place to live, I ask God where He would have me go. He leads me to the place He has for me. Even though I wouldn't have necessarily chosen the place in the natural, I am happy to be there and God uses whatever talents He gives me according to the need that is there.
Well, her husband couldn't run a business to save his life, he's got absolutely no sense. He's a weasel.
Can you tell I don't like him?
I need to go, getting awfully tired. All that fun in the sun did it!
David's off the next 2 days, don't know if I'll be back tomorrow or not. Talk to you later.
Mike's sister Cathy is married to a plumber who owns his own business. They are miollionaires now. Cathy is my age.
No, though he does things to make Christi think he's interested (but he's not). He works at a plumbing and heating place, been doing it for maybe 3 years now, thinks he knows everything. Christi works at DHS in Colorado, but says she's going to look for something else.
What does she do to earn a living? how about her husband?
After your daughter became of age, did she ever come back home to live with you?
Now, that is pretty bad. sounds like her dad. Is he Christian or at least claims to be one?
Yes, in a lot of ways.
Long story. Basically, he's a sorry excuse for a human being.
Is her husband a lot like her dad?
What is their problem?
Dunno. She says fine, so who knows. She doesn't usually tell me until she gets to where she's ready to shoot him.
How is your daughter and her husband's relationship working out?
I don't think it was flagged, cuz I went back to look when he reposted. Anyway, it doesn't really matter, he's convinced probably that you did it, because you admitted to doing it once. Just like ifeelfine is convinced I flag him cuz I did once and told him I did.
That's true about cevink, but he's using words Jerry/George hasn't, and is presenting things differently. The only thing in common is they are both nasty and condescending. I could be wrong of course.
cevink didn't show up until ater Jerry1 disappeared.
GMG
The first one agentorange post 1:39 pm I think was flagged. Then he reposted it at 4:21. But CP has started reinstating the flagged posts so the 1:39pm post was reinstated.
The one at 4:21? He was confused, apparently thought that was one that had been flagged so he reposted it. Go back earlier, to 1pm sometime I think. He had posted that, and I addressed it.
I don't think cevink is Jerry/George. Too articulate.
Jerry/George is absent tonight it seems. Maybe he got thrown off again. Wish they'd find a way to get rid of him for good.
When did you start going back to Church. cevink comments to seedplanter were on Expelled was Excellent! instead of the one I just mentioned.
We were going to the little church in the little town down the road, but we're going to try some others. Have to figure out which others first. Since David's days off this shift are Wed & Thurs it makes it more difficult.
GMG
cevink might be Jerry1/GeorgeXX/GeorgeX/....Go see his comments on Expelled explodes into top 10 box office.
GMG
agentorange left you a love letter on Expelled explodes into top 10 box office.
GMG
That is good that the grandbabies are coming again. No, the time doesn't sound very definite. That was a lot of nails.
Where do you go to Church?
GMG
So far they seem to be showing favortism to the evolutionists. Your comment to GeorgeX on Excelled was Excellent was completely removed. I don't see his responses to you either, at least, not yet. Yet CP restored many of GeorgeX's comments. Doesn't make much sense. However, GeorgeX must not have flagged himself or they would have removed those comments. Some of George's comments were removed so maybe he has flagged some of them. Don't know what is going on. I did call CP earlier this afternoon to tell them of the problem. The receptionist ask what they should do. I told them I don't care what they do; as far as I was concerned they could remove all the flagged comments. I told her I was just letting them know that there was a problem. I didn't even tell her who I was.
Looks like we'll be getting the grandbabies again in the next week or so. Don't know how long we'll have them, she says maybe 1, maybe 2, maybe 3 weeks. Doesn't sound very definitive does it!! =)
No babies, no shed, no visitors, and nothing interesting to go look at. However, LOTS AND LOTS of nails in the bucket - a 5 gal bucket filled almost to the top, and I still have one more side to do. And THEN, the inside. Are we having fun yet?
The pastor of our church, and any church members, have never been over since the fire. I was sitting (or rather standing) there thinking about that as I was moving tin panels, picking up more debri, collecting nails. I wondered, again, what churches think these days about just what a church is. Jesus was about people. Churches are about buildings. How so very sad.
Which ones are being restored? I've even forgotten now which ones had all the flagging.
GMG
Some of the flagged commnets are starting to be reinstated.
GMG
I don't think you will ever be able to get up all the nails. But it sure will help to get up as much as possible.
Have you gotten your shed built for your new riding mower? Have you tried out your new mower yet?
Have the baby chicks hatched yet? How about the ducks? Have you gotten your chicken pens made yet?
Have you all looked at any property? I have prayed for you.
It does sound like nice weather where you are. We have been having fairly warm weather here. Lo's high 60 and hi's in the mid 80's. In general, not much rain to speak of.
Has that family come out yet to see all the animals? I wonder if they will bring some birthday cake for you and David?
Hello
Out cleaning up the barn site, getting up more of those nasty nails before all the weeds make it impossible. Beautiful day, high 60's and lots of sun, just enough breeze to keep you from getting real hot.
feet has the same comeback for all his sexual sins, "the spirit of....witness of....not under the law....ad nauseum. I think he has a lot of history with sexual issues, and with christianity as a whole. He's very esoteric, new age, and full of bunk. I don't know why people are still talking to him. If everyone would ignore him, he'd just go away sooner or later.
We finished planting the garden today (I think!). We have ended up with 8 different varieties of pepper plants, our personal record!! Last year we had such a poor crop, and haven't really been able to can any for a couple of years, so we're bound and determined to have enough to can this year. It will be fun to see how much we like the new ones we are trying this year. Our all time favorites are jalapenjos, hot banana, and red cherry peppers. None of those are super hot, especially when canned. The red cherry peppers are very flavorful, and medium hot.
If we get enough tomatoes this year (again, poor crop last year), I'm going to experiment with some salsa, which is another reason for getting some hotter peppers this year.
And when the "peach truck" comes up to the stockyards this year, I will be very busy canning peaches and making peach jam. Made them for the first time last year, and they turned out mucho scrumptious!!! Colorado peaches, very very good. =) Only wish I had more strawberries and blackberries. David did plant cantalope, but you can't can them, or even freeze them successfully - they get mushy.
Well, good night and sleep tight. Talk to you again soon.
GMG
I'm going to call it quits tonight. Take care.
God bless.
GMG
Well, there is a reason feetxxxl is not wanting to respond to the incest relationship. He seems to always have some kind of comeback for all the other forbidden relationships. I think he has a problem with incest. I still think he has either been a victim of sexual abuse within his family or he was a perpurtrator. I think, personally, it is the former.
GMG
Almost every post on Expelled was Excellent has been flagged. Ben Stein's documentary sure has caused some to get very touchy.
GMG
Flagging doesn't bother me anymore. I am satisfied if the person it was intended for read it. Usually, it is probably that person who is the one who is doing the flagging.
Nah, chriss hasn't backed feet into a corner. Chris has addressed this before, and you know feet, he just doesn't answer.
Jerry/George loves to call everyone else down, it's as if he thinks he has some special priviledge to be a bigot and a censor, the rules are somehow different for him. He can make sweeping statements, even post information from websites as if they are his own, and doesn't expect to be held accountable. What's funny is when ifeelfine agrees with him, or in other ways shows support for him, and he never seems to realize that it's just the reoccuring ghost of BobC. How sad.
Well, pattiepie has had her day, it was just a kind of joke anyway. I wouldn't worry about being flagged, seems to be a lot of that going on lately.
Sigh-h-h-h
Georgie is now Jerry1. Go look at "Expelled Explodes....."
GMG
He posted two. I don't remember the first one but his second one was "GMG-Have you ever said anything intelligent in your life? I don't think so."
GMG
GeorgeXX/GeorgeX/Howard/Dwen/asdfg/yyyy/xxxx/oldguy/first/danny2/danny/BobC/BobCu and who knows what else is now Jerry1.
He went nuts last night and some today and flagged his stuff, agentorange, steveh20, pattiepie and, of course, you.
agentorange was wanting someone to call CP and have the flagged post reinstated. I refused to do it. Let agentorange do that himself. He came down on me pretty hard because he says I call all the time getting people expunged from the system. How foolish to think that way.
GeorgeX was demanded that someone call CP about all the flagging. pattiepie told him to stop whining and call himself.
I guess we jus have to live with this guy. I am kind of getting tired of these atheists/agnostics/evolutionists. I wish they would just go away.
ifeelfine72 makes himself look foolish with his anti-christian worldview.
Look at the exchange that Chris333 had with feetxxxl on Christians Reject Taboo on Hot Sex in Marriage. Chris333 has him cornered. I think now that maybe feetxxxl has been involved or victimized by sexual abuse within his family.
I am kind of getting tired of being pattiepie. I noticed in my character that it was the child in me that was coming out. I was kind of stupid yet insightful, looking for attention and acceptance, afraid to make a mistake, wanting to please, made promises that I tried to keep but couldn't. Anytime I was asked a quesion God made me tell the truth. So, everything I said was true. I had to be careful on how much detail I gave because agentorange knows certain facts about me and I didn 't want to give my identity away.
As star2 I kept getting my comments about homosexuality flagged. I thought that they were flagging me because I made someone mad. So to test that I created pattiepie. Well, in the end everyone turned on pattiepie and started flagging her too and it wasn't limited to her views on homosexuality; it was everything about her. I guess pattiepie was an icky person who they couldn't stand and was glad to get rid of her. I probably won't come back as pattiepie.
It was kind of fun in a way because I could say things o agentorange that I wouldn't have been able to as star2.
What has been going on with you? Haven't seen you.
Hope to chat with you again.
Hello,
David's been off a few days. Now I'm trying to catch up on article reading!
So, what did our Georgie's love letters say? I'm thinking about reposting my post to him, I dunno.
GMG
GeorgeX flagged you on Expelled was Excellent.
GMG
I don't know what is wrong with W00t/GeorgeX/Howard/Dwen/asdfg/oldguy/first/danny2/danny/ BobC/BobCu? It always goes the say way. Almost like he is preprogrammed. May God help him.
GMG
GeorgeX has now flagged his love letters to you.
GMG
GeorgeX left you a love letter in your response to him on Expelled was Excellent. He went and flagged most of his comments on many articles including his id name w00t.
Good night online. maybe we will see each tomorrow. Rest well. God bless.
Well, my eyes are burning, a sign that it is time to retire for the evening; perhaps, we can chat again tomorrow? God's richest blessings be upon you :) & good night.
They should be able to. Maybe for a split second they knew they were wrong and flagged you. i can't second guess someone's reason(s) for flagging.
I went to that article (What Divides...). I think you are right, that is tliml. Your flagged entry was just above his. he doesn't have a sound rebuttal.
Mercy, I know, huh? That is sad; I mean if they believe their position or doctrine to be true, then they should be able to demonstrate it, right?
Maybe so. Most of the nonbiblical people are becoming very militant these days. I glad that all they can do is flag. If we were in person something worse may happen like a fist fight or something worse than that.
I know huh; that is funny to think about, over 100 pages of continual discusions. I have not read them yet; I have been going back and forth from here to other articles. Someone flagged my post; it was nothing worth flagging for, it was -
tliml,
Where are the Scriptural passages to support your claims?
I suspect tliml to have flagged it.
Obama Promises to 'Usher' Gay Employment Bill article is a good one. I started posting on page 2. This is the article that got me started as pattiepie. Then EU High Court Rules on Gay... is another one. I have three posts all on page 1.
Have you looked at any of pattiepie's postings yet? Kind of would like to know what you think about them.
CP may not even know. I don't know if they monitor the traffic on any article. Many of the recent one maybe but not the archived ones like this article.
I am glad we have this place to come to. CP must wonder what is going on here with over 100 pages of posts.
I understand; we all need a break from time to time. You should not feel that your posts do not matter, seeds are being scattered; many times what we say or how we say it does not come out right - Lord help us - but it is still the truth. I come to this article to get away and fellowship with you, GMG, Wilderness1, and whoever else drops by; we all need that.
Yeah, I haven't seen them either.
I know that Prophet is very busy so he probably doesn't have much time to come to CP.
I don't know about the rest.
I was telling GMG that I need to take a break from CP. She felt the same way. maybe these people we haven't seen feel that way too or maybe they just don't have the time or who know why.
I get discouraged because nothing I say seems to make a difference. I am tired, so to speak, of the world people 'winning' out. There is a spiritual battle going on and it is taking its tool on me. I kind of like to just go away for awhile. I would like to come here though to have some Christian fellowship.
No, I have not seen them either. I pray all is well with them. Prophet, Jester, Jesus4me, and a few others have not been seen. Miss those guys.
Excellant points; I agree. The Lord did say, that we should not think about what we should speak but the Holy Spirit would give us the words to speak, thank you Lord.
No I haven't. I have hardly ever seen her since I have been here at CP. I don't see annie4jesus anymore, or maranatha7593 either. have you?
Back in the early church God gave the Church the apostles, evangelist, prohpet, pastors and teachers to help us all come into the unity of the faith. But back then these leaders spoke with one voice. We don't have that anymore. I don't want any one speaking for me. I will speak as best as I understand what God has said. The real bible believing Christians in our day and age will have to go against the established church and take a stand for the truth themselves. We won't have someone with a big name necessarily that will speak the Word of God to the world for all those who believe. maybe I am wrong. I don't want no pope type guy speaking for non catholics.
Much prayer; have you seen RBB lately? I have not; hope all is well with her.
I am glad I don't go to that guy's church. May God help him.
I understand that he does have a point about someone speaking for "all" non-catholics but to elevate the pope as he does, well, it seems that he should join them instead of compromising the gospel.
Listen to the pastor of the Reformed Church's post -
"We must continue to reach out to Catholics because truly when their Pope talks people listen, much like that of those old EF HUTTON commercials. We Protestants and Evangelicals do not have such a figure and it is difficult to ever appoint someone who speaks for all non-Catholic Christians when there is so much division even within my own denomination. Thank God this Pope has the Moral high ground and I pray that all Christians will listen to what he says and pray."
Imagine, him saying that non-catholics do not have a figure? What about Jesus? What about the Holy Spirit?
They flag because they don't have a sound rebuttal and their feelings were hurt in some kind of way. Sometimes I flag because I find what they say offensive, like a personal attack. Plus I sense the spirit they said it in. Usually i think it is the spirit that I pick up is what I am actually flagging more so than what they said.
CP doesn't flag anybody. However, their rules on how they deal with flags has changed since that Sun in march first/danny2/danny went crazy and flagged every comment in many articles.
Now, if a person flagges themselves, CP will remove that flag fairely quickly, maybe in 6 hrs or so. However, if someone else flags your post then CP may restore your post. The conditions vary on how they decide I think. They told me that they would occassionally monitor the flaggs. When they do this, then they will decided if the flagged post is reinstated. If they aren't monitoring the flagged posts then the system will remove the flagged entry within 24 hrs. They usually do it in the afternoon though I have ssen them do it in the middle of the night. I don't think that they have the process worked out yet. They say they have bugs the last time I talked with them.
That is sad when people flag others just so their comments can be read; why not give a sound rebuttal instead of flagging everything?
Actually someone flagged a lot of my stuff on Myths about Expell tonight so you would have to go back several pages to find any post. However, EU High Court Rules... has a sample of how I wrote. Also, Obama Promises ... article has some stuff. It was the Obama article that prompted me to come back as pattiepie. However, whoever flagged me as star2 CP restored my flagged posts.
How does the CP flag posts? What do they consider to be offensive?
This article Study christian divorce rate my entry got flagged so I flagged the post that I was responding to. CP removed both flagged posts so my entry is not there.
I will have to take a look at them; they seem to be interesting articles. Most of the comments were from liberals, I bet.
I posted on Myth about Expell, Obama Promises to Usher gay employment, EU High Court rules, Study christian divorce rate. these articles are most of them I posted on.
Lol, that is funny; what were the articles about?
oops, sorry for the double click
I really wasn't uneducated. I had a lot of good thoughts but my speech wasn't very good. GMG said I sounded like a black person. I think that is what she said.
Actually, I did not, where did you post?
Actually, I did not, where did you post?
Did you see some of the stuff I wrote as pattiepie?
I made up my pattiepie ID because I got tired of the homos flagging my stuff. I thought I would go under a different ID (pattiepie) and post similar thoughts and see if my stuff would get flagged. i had to conceal my star2 writing style so I came as an uneducated kid. Well, my thoughts didn't get flagged until recently. So I don't know if it was the message or they just came to hate me. It was kind of fun to be pattiepie. I could say stuff to people I know that I couldn't say as star2. I don't want to be pattiepie anymore but I may use it occassionally.
No, they do not live close by, her dad passed a number of years ago.
I mean your wife's grandparents?
That's good.
Is your wife's parents still alive? Do they live close by?
Yes, she does, about ten minutes away.
I agree; there are to many obstacles to hurdle in order to gain favor with God within Catholicism. Amen - there is no one able to take his place!
I know she must feel a lot better not having her stomach pushed up into her chest. does she live close by to you?
She is able to eat; mentally, she is still sharp - it is her body that really needs to rest.
Some Catholic said about the Pope that they don't look to him or Marty for salvation that they look to Jesus. That is a bunch of bull. They can't see at all what they believe.
I like what GMG said. That in the Catholic Church you have to go thru an authority to get to the Authority. No man is going to replace God in my life.
Is she able to eat better?
Yeah, we all need to be reminded to wait on God, but he is still faithful.
It is sad to see people in general flock to a man who cannot save them; Lord help us.
she is mostly resting; she can walk but not to long - her operation was major.
Waiting on God is not one of my strength.
The TV is playing right now and they keep calling the Pope the "Holy Father". I just can't stand to hear that anymore. It is such blaspheme.
Yes, we did - we read Psalms 91 and discussed the importance praying and waiting on the Lord - in prayer.
That is good. What are her limitations?
She is doing well; she had to pay another visit to the hospital for one day but came back home, she is still recovering, praise God.
Did you have your Bible Study tonight?
How is grandma doing?
It seems that with all that "higher learning", he could have kept that to himself and allowed his statements to speak for themselves; well, I guess his statements have already shared some light on where he stands. All that learning means nothing if you do not allow that scriptures to speak for themselves.
"God's Word is there for anyone to read and to seek Him for understanding. Praise God."
AMEN TO THAT!!!!!!!
His response is no response. I guess I'll go back some other time and respond.
Those are the two articles I read the posts on and saw your dialog with that Pastor. He even goes as far as to correct people because they didn't have a degree in theology or something like that. If he is what that degree produces then it is a blessiing not to have such an education.
God's Word is there for anyone to read and to seek Him for understanding. Praise God.
By the way - lidiapurple has responded to your last post on - "What divides Catholics and Protestants?"
Yeah, it is sad that they want to make things personal rather than addressing their claims from scripture. I guess it is easier for them to attack the messenger than the message itself; I am glad that these two posts have highlighted the obvious differences between Catholicism and Protestant Christianity - "Pope comes to America: Evangelical Thoughts" & "What divides Catholics and Protestants?" - They are saying what I have been debating for the past few months.
I saw them articles. I can't believe that Pastor guy. he is unreal. He'll probably will united under the one world church. he is already half there. His ability to accept mary worship and stuff as biblical is unreal. Along with her being the Queen of Heaven. The catholics are always the same. At least they take a stand for what they believe. But I guess they would lose their salvation if they didn't.
I have not seen GMG since that last time we spoke. The last few articles that I have been on have been interesting; debating 4 Catholics and even a pastor from the Reformed Church (he seems to be very liberal).
I haven't seen GMG the last couple of days. Either she is real busy or her husband has a few days off.
I am doing OK. I saw some places you have been.
How are you?
I am well; Just been hanging out on some of the articles.
Online
pattiepie = star2
Hello?
GMG? Online?
GMG
Remember the response I gave to hautechick on Study Christian Divorce Rate as pattiepie? Well, someone , probably hautechick, flagged it yesterday. Well, CP removed it. There wasn't anything wrong with what I said. I don't understand CP. Anyway I flagged hautechick. If a response can't be given to someone's post then the post ought to be removed as well. Let's see what CP will do with that. If they restore it I won't know what to make of it.
Hello?
Well, I'm calling it a night. God bless.
anyone here?
GMG & Online
I'm going to go for awhile.
Online GMG?
Hi Online
Hello everyone!
Good night
Wait, he has a post as GeorgeX on Florida Considers "I Believe" License plates.
I think he's got a double identity. Guess we better wait and see though, hmm?
star
He's baaack! As w00t. He's so transparent.
Hello?
CP didn't restore GeorgeX to Myths about "Expelled", which is the only one I've looked at for now.
Not sure what I'll be doing, but I'll be doing something! Talk with you later.
GMG
I am back to normal again unless someone wants to talk with 'pattiepie'.
CP restored Howard's and GeorgeX's flagged stuff. Maybe it really wasn't Howard who flagged himself like I had thought. If you flag your own stuff CP will permantely remove it. But this wasn't the case with Howard and George.
What are you going to be doing today?
I am going to be mowing the yard for the elderly couple I work for.
Have you gotten your shed built for you riding mower?
Have the winds died down any today?
Well, hopefully we'll be able to talk later. Bye
okay, enjoy your mail and I'll talk with you later =)
okay, I'll wait a few minutes for you to get back with me.
Ah, you'd best check your email then.
I'll let you go to do that. I'll check back with you some time tomorrow. Sleep well.
which one are you talking about?
he sent an email at 9:11pm tonight to both of us.
Mugs has got a good feeling for human nature. I think it's funny what he said about "pattiepie"!
Not sure. He had to be just fishing, but not knowing who he is, it's anyone's guess. something about his first and second post rings some kind of bell, but I just can't place it. That's why I said before I'd just have to wait until he posted some more stuff before I could figure it out. But now he's trying to match your goobeldy-gook, so who knows!
Not that I can think of.
He might have been trying to trip you up, he did put (90-x) in his sentence.
What do you mean 'talking about'?
Huh?
Maybe. But I very much doubt whoever 1 is has figured out it is you. I think 1 is an imposter, and it's very possible he's figured out you are an imposter, but I don't think he knows exactly who he's talking to.
yep, "1" has replied and is making fun of you. I think "cosine" is supposed to be cussing.
Did you get Muggle's email on his thoughts on GeorgeX? I'm glad you told him you were pattiepie, that's funny.
I'm gonna get off here in about 10 minutes or so, didn't get much sleep last night. Got to sleep late and the husband woke me up pretty early, so I'm bushed.
Be back in a couple of minutes.
Only 1 has answered responded to anything I have said as pattiepie. I kind of wonder why. I feel a little rejected.
I emailed muggleborn and told him about pattiepie. I asked him if he wanted to do that kind of thing too.
No one in their right mind!!
I wonder who will try to accuse GeorgeX as being pattiepie?
Well, like I said, pick a person to emulate and stick to that style. Harder to do than you thought, isn't it?!!!
"1" has a screw loose. Why would God write something like that, indeed! something sounds wrong with that post (and the one of his before that). I'll have to see more of them before I can put my finger on it.
Go look at "Rod Parsley on Islan" under other news. I'm reading the comments now.
I don't know if I could pull it off successfully. I'll have to think about it. It does sound like fun, but I dunno......
Goodness No!! That was how you pronounce the name of the person you addressed in Study: Christian Divorce.
Careful, you're mixing styles. "Dude" is contemporary, the rest of your speech sounds like southern black, or maybe distant appalachian. Hey, and I just got her pin name, "hot chick". How appropriate for a christian site (not). Bet I can guess what her views on certain subject matters would be!!!
If you work really hard to rephrase your points, you'll be okay at least for a while. Think of some character you know really well, from tv or a book or movie, and try to phrase things like that person.
Yep, commonly called cow pies, cow patties, meadow muffins, and a number of others that I can't think of right now.
LOL we could, but you do know what a cow pattie is don't you?
I've gotta go feed, I'll be back in a bit.
pattiepie? Oh, you are TOO funny. Where in the world did you get that from? Is this your alter-ego. And yeah, I already read your messages, you sound a bit like a hick! I assume this is your "second" identity, you are keeping star2 also?
Now, there's a thought. I could sign up as "cow pattie". hahahahahahahahahaha
What is the problem in their relationship? What would he think about the kids coming to grandma's and grandpa's house for several months?
Don't know when we'll get the kids again, haven't discussed any dates. And no, she's still married, they are back together again for the time being, but I really don't see it lasting. However, that is their decision.
Oh, I pray. Just don't have any answers yet. there's a number of issues around this whole thing.
When are you getting the grandbabies back? Is your daughter single?
What us immature posters are doing is giving CP tech crew something to do.
Give them away as birthday or christmas presents? Seriously, why don't you pray about what to do?
Well, guess anyone can flag anyone. Too bad there's so many babies in grown-up's clothes around, which is what is happening now with George and whoever.
We had Whiskey cut last year. We've gone through the problems of having a stud around and trying to keep him separated. It's not so simple, one little fence doesn't do the job.
You've asked the million dollar question. Don't know what we're going to do with all those horses. My husband keeps changing his mind. At one time we were breeding, but decided that we had too much difficulty (emotionally) parting with the babies. We sold one, and don't think we ever really got over that. However, two of us can't ride 4 horses, so we sure need to sell a couple. The problem is, all 4 of them are babies we've bred, raised, and trained, so which ones do you sell?
I don't really much care anymore if I get flagged. The flagger may silence me but he/she can't remove what I said from their mind.
GMG
When are you going to bring your other horses home? Are you going to try to mate Whiskey with one of the girl horses?
yep, that was the one I saw.
GMG
Someone is flagging me on Obama Promises.....I wonder if CP will restore my stuff. If quoting what God says about homosexuality is offensive to CP then why bother anymore.
No, those are pretty strong, but the spring time can bring some funky weather. Not unusual for us to have wind of 20-25 though, which can also be a God-send when it gets hot enough!
Actually, his dad and bro live in Enid, but his dad's land is north of there, which would make it over 100 miles from us. Long ways to go for us, but that's where our other horses have been for the 2 years we've lived here.
Actually, I'm not convinced that George is flagging himself, but I don't discount the possibility. And btw, I imagine he thinks you are flagging him (maybe), cuz I just ran across an article where you are flagged on the current page, can't remember which one it was though.
GMG
Those are pretty strong winds. Do you get that very often?
Where does David's dad and brother live? How long have you been living at your current residence?
In a way GeorgeX aka Howard is comical. I think he is flagging himself like you said in one of your posts.
I owed too, but I was expecting it so I was prepared.
Wind's blowing 40-50mph, can't do much outside. Went out to do some feeding, the horse's hay wouldn't stay in the pen, and one of my cats who was trying to walk with me kept getting blown off the path.
David went up to his dad's land to spend some time with his dad and brother, called all excited because he put the saddle on our youngest filly and she handled it well. She just turned two and has had very minimul handling, since she was born during all our moving and craziness, and we've never been able to have her with us on a regular basis.
Someone flagged a bunch of GeorgeX's comments on Myths about Expelled, and agentorange is whining about it. Are we having fun yet?
GMG
I saw it.
What have you been up to today?
I got my taxes off today. I owe money. IRS said that they can take what I owe out of my rebate check if I don't pay before it is issued to me. I am thankful for that. Hopefully it won't go that way.
go look at Muggleborn's comments of 11:41am on Myths about Expelled. He truly has the most delightful sense of humor!!!
GMG
Sometimes CP makes me laugh. It is sort of comical the way some people are.
star, look at Myths about Expelled. Ifeelfine doesn't want to believe Howard is BobC. could it be because Howard told him just a day or two ago that he "respected" him, as he didn't sound like most christians? Gosh, what a wonderful personal reference (like why would any christian want to be praised by atheists for not acting like a christian?) . But he's right, ifeelfine saves all his considerable disdain for Christians.
Goodnight all.
online,
I bet you looked like a very bumpy Frosty the Snowman!!! Yes, it's a whole lot of work. I took 3 bedrooms,1 bath down to 2 bedrooms, 1 1/2 baths, redid all the plumbing, drainage pipes, and electricity. But I live in the country so I can do that. And I can sure understand having someone else do the tile, it is a chore, but I enjoyed it. I hope to be laying tile on my kitchen floor in the not-too-distant future, but I have to knock out walls, etc. etc. to redo my kitchen, so it'll be awhile anyway. I think the thing I like the least is replacing bathtubs, now there's a REAL chore!
GMG,
Take care and God bless!
Star2,
Sounds good; I will call it a night also. Take care and God bless!
I am getting tired. I think I will call it a night.
God bless you both
GMG,
That is exactly how I did it; water in a spray bottle and scrape away. It was a mess alright; alot of work. I did not have experience laying tile and did not want to mess things up; it would have taken much longer if I did that myself, on top of all the rest.
Star2,
No, I did not know that, that is something. Yes, it was a lot of work; I am glad it is done.
GMG and Online
I bet the two of you could share some stories about house remodeling.
online,
How'd you get that popcorn stuf off the ceiling? The only way I know how is to use a spray bottle of water, spray and scrape. Talk about a mess!! Is that how you did it?
And tile isn't that hard, but it does take time and you have to be detail-oriented to do it right. I think the word might be persnickety =)
Star,
found a couple, with him being innocent-like. "Say, I was just reading comments and I wonder why howard got flagged?" would you call that "fishing"? what a joke. Just look for the subject of evolution, you'll find howard-GeorgeX!!!
Online - Now GMG doesn't do cars though.
Sounds like a lot of work you did on the interior of your house Online.
Online
did you know that GMG use to work in a lawnmower repair shop repairing different kinds of lawn equipment?
GMG
I can't find the article yet. I saw it when I was surfing the different articles on CP.
GMG,
Wow; that is something! I spent five months working on the interior of my home; tearing a wall down, taking that old popcorn substance off the ceilings, pulling carpet out, breaking old tile, spraying new texture and painting the entire interior of my house. I did have a friend lay the new tile down.
online,
It's fun, and it's a good thing too, because my husband can't even fix a leaky faucet!
GMG
I am trying to find the article. This GeorgeX has all of a sudden shown up to every post Howard was on. I think GeorgeX is Howard.
Wow; that is awesome, there are not to many sisters that are hany-women.
star,
They're Goodwrench. They were half off - Yay!!
Yes, based on GeorgeX's latest comment on Myths about Expelled I believe it could very well Howard. It sounds like him.
star,
which other article are they being flagged on? And I wouldn't think howard would flag ifeelfine, christian and atheist share views with those two.
GMG,
Yeah, they are not cheap at all. That is a blessing to have; enjoy :)
What brand name did you get? I have a 100 piece tool set.
Online
GMG is a handylady. She can do a lot of remodeling and stuff.
online,
boy, don't I know it, which is why I've wanted them. But they sure aren't cheap.
When GeorgeX showed up after Howard was having his stuff flagged my inital thought was that it was howard. Howard might be the one doing the flagging. ifeelfine72 is having his flagged along with Howards on the same article (article is a different one than you mentioned).
Oh Oh, this ought to be fun. Go look at Myths about 'Expelled'. After all the flagging of howard, at 10:38pm there is a comment from "GeorgeX". Look at that last sentence, look familiar? Any takers for "howard" changing his name again?
Star2,
Yes, I have; it is good.
GMG,
Ratchet wrenches surely do make things easier!
GMG - are you still here?
Have you started reading the book yet Online?
I got the book "Jesus among other Gods - The Absolute Claims of the Christian Message."
Oh yes, I knew I was forgetting something. I got a set of ratchet wrenches. Been wanting those for eons!! =)
Oh well, it sounded fun.
No tools GMG?
What book did each of you get?
Neighbors, I think not. siblings or cousins, come on, I wasn't born yesterday.
That is something, isn't it? I too got a book.
Yes, what we haven't told you star is that we're siblings (or maybe cousins, or neighbors?)
Nah, I got an omelette, and a day off from cooking and dishes. And a book, and some strawberry plants.
GMG
You and Online have a lot in common. You are both ex-catholic, both have a birthday in April, and you both have a wedding anniversary in March.
GMG,
Happy B-day to you!!!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY GMG!
Did you get a birthday cake?
Happy Birthday to you, tra la la =)
Mine was the 7th.
Mine too; it was nice.
Alright! Cholocate is my favorite.
Yes, chocolate; it was good.
Did you get a birthday cake?
I had a gathering at home with a few friends and family; we ate and hung out.
What did you do for your birthday?
The weaher has been pretty warm. We have had days in the 80's. A little cool and windy today.
How is the weather there?
Yes, I live in Texas. A place called Seabrrok. It is about 8 miles east of the Johnson Space Center. I don't live far from Galveston Bay.
It was actually yesterday; thanks.
It has been warm with a mild breeze; nice acutally. How about you; was it Texas?
I don't know when your birthday is this month, but HAPPY BIRTHDAY ONLINE!
What is the weather like over there in San Diego?
Yes, I did. I claim 0, so I normally get something back.
do you get money back? I have to pay.
Yes, I finished them last month.
Have you done your taxes yet? I got mine finished tonight. I'll mail it off tomorrow.
Yes, I agree with you there.
Oh, okay; well thank God that we have a little place to hang out at.
How long have you been posting on CP?
A lot of times we leave message for one another. Sometimes we meet up and have a chat. Her last message to me was one of those 'leave you a message' type thing.
I don't know.
Not yet; she is still undecided. She is getting mail galore. Did GMG log off tonight?
Has your daughter decided yet about what college she wants to go to?
She is doing much better; thank you for asking.
Thanks, I am sure I will. Nothing last forever except eternity. How is grandma doing?
I am doing well; hope you feel better.
I have some kind of chest cold though. Not too bad but it does make me tired sometimes and I have a bad caught. The congestion is loose and I thank God for that.
I am OK. How about you?
Hey, I am back; How are you two this evening?
Online?
GMG - I told them that we were internet friends and that you told me that I was being harsh. I told them that I probably offended a pro-gay guy and it was OK not to restore my post (i originally asked them to restore all my posts). I think that they do reveiw some of the flagged posts on their own and restore them if they think that their was nothing wrong with it.
Hi online
Hello?
Howard will never be able to hide who he is, no matter what type of veneer he tries to cover himself up with. He is in love with his pseudo superiority, makes him feel like a big man. How sad.
I have no earthly clue as to who is doing all that flagging, no one commenting there looks like a likely candidate. I don't think he's doing it to himself. He made someone pretty angry somewhere, but then there's no surpirse there. He has a lot of nerve, referring to whoever is flagging him as a "lunatic". Goodness, I do believe that is a truly classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. What a poor deluded soul.
So you told CP I thought your posting was harsh, did ya. lol I'm sure they will feel most comfortable making their own judgements based on their own rules, which is the way it should be. I wonder what made them repost the one of mine someone flagged, unless they've decided to just go through periodically and checked the flagged ones on their own.
Yeah, some of this stuff brings out the fight in people sometimes. Besides ifeelfine and feet, and scitsonga at times definitely, one I think is pretty nasty is truthandjustice, and his newfound friend msnchris seems to be following in his footsteps. I have to hand it to online, he manages to stay cool, calm and collected for the most part, though why he keeps dealing with taj is beyond me.
GMG
I called CP about my stuff and your post being flagged on Obama Promises..... They restored most of my stuff and even one of ifeelfine's post that got flagged. I told them that you had said that I was a little harsh. I told them that I thought that someone who was pro-gay probably was offended by what I said and that I didn't care if they didn't restore it. Well, they didn't, which is OK with me.
I don't know what happened to Howard's postings on Myths about Expelled. I think it might be him flagging himself but maybe not. Maybe he ticked someone off on that article. Some are just a bunch of immature cry babies at times. One can really get worked up with people who oppose their views. I am glad that we don't dialog with each other in the flesh. There might be a fist fight or something worse. All we have to deal with is flagging.
GMG
No ma'am, it wasn't me. I was laying down because I was tired and I don't feel good. Mike came home with supper (Popeye's Fried Chicken) and I came down to eat it. I decided to see what was going on CP while I ate. Teen left a message for Chris333. I gave the kid a piece of my mind.
Howard at first was pretty restrained and just recently he started losing it. I guess he overstepped his bounds. It always goes that way with him.
Goodness, they are already all gone (the headings with his name, showing he was flagged).
Sometime around 7:15 approx. I was reading the posts on that article, had gotten page 2 finished, part of page 1, went to give someone a thumbs up and all of a sudden howard's posts came up flagged. It was done before 7:28 because he had a post that just said "why?" at that time.
Someone is going through howard's posts on "Myths about "Expelled" and flagging them. It wouldn't be you by any chance?
I got to recompute my tax return, clean my room, and put away my winter clothes. I probably won't be back until around 10 PM.
I finally had to answer ifeelfine72 about the flagging issue on another article. I think dongard was doing the flagging on Obama Promises...but he wasn't posting on an article that ifeelfine and I were on so my post will remain.
There is no nice way to say that the sexual behavior of gay people is repulsive and disgusting. Everytime I read feelxxxl's bull I just want to throw up. These gay people are not going to get the acceptance that they are looking for from hetrosexual people. Their behavior is against nature and the natural man is going to be turned away from it. That is a fact of life.
Hope to see you tonight.
I need to go finish laundry and dig on a ditch, so I probably won't be back until later tonight. Go with God, star.
I read your post before it was flagged. Though you are correct in that what you wrote was correct, it was pretty harsh. I'm not one for believing that you should mince words, so to speak, when discussing some of these issues, however I do think that we need to be a bit careful in our phrasing. The question we should always ask ourselves is, do we want someone to listen, or do we want to make them so mad that they can't hear a word we are saying.
Now, I know that there are plenty of times that someone will not listen to what we have to say, no matter how we say it. But if we want the Lord to use us when addressing an issue, perhaps we need to spend more time trying to figure out how He would present it.
I don't want to get your defenses up, and I know that the subject of homosexuality and evolution are particularly important to you. They are to me also, so I can surely understand. I'm just trying to give you a little feedback as to my thoughts. You of course need to do what seems right to you.
GMG
Since ifeelfine72 flagged my post Saturday night along with his I assumed that it was he that flagged it Sunday night. What I posted Sunday night was in some ways similar to what I posted Saturday night. However, dongard entered into the discussion on Sunday. He seems to be pro homosexual. So, he might have seen it as imflamatory and flagged it. Howard has not come to this particular article so I doubt it was he. CP refused to restore my flagged post like they did yours. I guess they found it inflamatory. A person can't even expressed their views anymore. There was nothing wrong with what I said. Oh, well.....
Thank you for the links you provided.
I see CP restored my flagged post on Obama Promises. Could have been anyone, howard or maybe dongard (who I don't know much about). ifeelfine has never flagged anything that I know of. If there was multiple flagging, my vote goes to howard.
GMG
I don't know who flagged your post and mine on Obama Promises..... It may have been ifeelfine72 or it may have been dongard.
ifeelfine72 flagged me last night. I gave him a response to a comment he made on a particular post and he got mad or something. Anyway, he flagged himself and me after a little while. But gowin, and ronwilson4u made comments right after I did in support of what I was saying that ifeelfine72 flagged.
My comments last night to ifeelfine72 hit a nerve with this guy.
GMG
Another article on that LDS sect in Tx:
Polygamous Sect Encouraged Fear: http://www.comcast.net/news/articles/national/2008/04/04/Polygamist.Retreat/
This is so sad.
GMG
IRS rebate schedule: http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=180250,00.html
Hope to talk with you sometime later today.
GMG
Teen told his parents today at breakfast that his post(s) got flagged even though he said nothing wrong. His dad called CP and CP restored his posts.
I left Teen a message and told him I flagged him and why.
You may have to pay state tax but at least you (?) and your hubby will get your rebate checks. Go to irs.gov and you can find out when your chk will be mailed to you.
Well, online, I am going to call it a night. May God bless you. May God help your grandma heal up real good and draw her close to Jesus.
Yes, we must be about our father's business. Well, I have to cut it short tonight; need to get some rest. It is always a blessing chatting with you; stay encouraged in the Lord and we will chat again. Good night and God bless.
I felt like that might have happened. At least I did what God wanted me to do.
should read "Are Roman Catholics Christian?"
I am familiar with that ministry; I do not think that they recieved those tracts, it was probably screened for its content and then tossed away. Hopefully, whoever opened them, read a little bit before discarding them.
I believe that if a person dies without Christ then he/she will perish. It is very important that we tell the lost about Jesus. We must be about our Father's business.
Do you know about the chick tracts called, "Why is mary Crying?" and "Are Roman Catholics Saved?"? Well, back in the 90's God had me send Mother Teresa the track "Are Roman
Catholics Saved" and had me send to Pope John Paul II the other track, "Why is Mary Crying". I don't know if either one of them got it.
I agree that we are all imperfect; God can use any vessel for his purpose, we can discuss theological claims and positions but God alone can read the heart. It is a blessing to know that we are not saved by our tainted works but by the blood of Christ.
Yes, I did hear about that; it seems that there were many obstacles that obscurred her view of Jesus as savior. That is what can happen when were are indoctrinated to the point that other things (teachings of men) obscure the gospel. She did do alot of good for those around her; God knows the hearts of all mankind and so will weigh everything when determining his people.
No one is perfect. No person can do what he/she knows is right all the time. He/She will fail. If we have to be perfect before God to enter heaven then how can one do that apart from Christ?
Did you hear about Mother Teresa's lack of faith in God? It was a real problem for her. she constantly sought prayer from the Pope for her problem. She didn't let the public know about her lack of faith which is wise I think. she use to tell people that be a good whatever you are and you'll make it to heaven.
She is 84.
I agree; I believe that it comes down to what a person actually knows or doesn't know. This is what I posted on another article.
The Scriptures clearly teach that there is salvation ONLY through Jesus Christ – Acts 4:12, 1Corinthinans 3:11, John 14:6; however, the scriptures also teach that the Lord will consider WHERE one was born and WHAT one knows. For those who come to KNOW the clear teaching of who Christ is and his claims; they will be held accountable for this. For those who do not come into contact with this knowledge; consider the following passages -
I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there. And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her. The LORD shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Selah – Psalms 87:4-6.
For there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel – Romans 2:11-16.
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? – Romans 2:26.
For us, (believers); we are also accountable for what we profess –
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God – Romans 2:28-29.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his – Romans 8:9.
That is good that grandma doesn't live alone. How old is she?
I listened to that Osteen youtube video. That is bad. Either Jesus is the only way or He is just one way. Can't walk the middle road. Bush is like that and a bunch of others. If you can't be strong for your faith in the public arena then don't talk. No comprimise.
No, my uncle lives with her and many family members are always passing through.
does your grandmother live alone?
No, we cancelled because grandma came home today from the hospital. On Friday nights; it is for everyone; the mens fellowship group is on Wednesday mornings.
The Osteen clip is just one example; we are seeing alot of similar preacher emerging with a message that does not explicitly define itself in a biblical and exclusive message. Exclusive in the sense that Christ is the only way.
Did you have your mens bible group over tonight?
I know about Osteen. His dad wasn't that way. I have listened to Joel and you never heard him preach the gospel. His books are the same.
There are the Mega Churches with their leaders who either ignore or water down the gospel; for example, Joel Osteen - www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfwYU2pmWYQ
Sorry for the delay; I had someone call over the phone for prayer.
Can you give me an example of what you mean?
The "emerging church" is a present day movement which claims to be seeking the "unchurched" for Christ. I am sure that there are some who sincerely and objectively seek to proclaim the gospel in a way which appeals to the "unchurched" but it seems that by seeking to appeal to what the world wants, they are watering down the Word of God. I believe it is a movement which is seeking to make the church all inclusive; let us love one another while we set aside doctrine - the falling away spoken of in 2Thessalonians 2.
That is so true; there is alot of info to tap into. The good thing for us believers is that we can access virtually all good and edifying resources.
What do you know about the 'emerging church'? What is it anyway?
the internet can be addictive.
Star2,
I enjoy a mixture of gospel, praise songs, and old hymns; I too do not enjoy music that is jazzed up to the point where the message is lost. That is dedication - not listening to music to be here - lol
What kind of music do you like?
Oh, i don't know. I like praise and worship music that is played in a goddly way.. I like gospel cornet/trumpet as long as the music isn't jazzed up. I think jazzing it up is disrespectful. I don't listen to music very much. Spend to much time on CP. haHa
Who is your favorite gospel group or hymn song?
Not much
Oh, just been posting on Pope Benedict's U.S. Visit to Reshape Image. How about you?
What is going on?
Hi Star2
Hi online
Hello?
Online -
If you come by tonight, leave star some links to sites that will give her a good explanation of the definition of "emerging church". I think you're the one that has a special interest in that, if I remember right, yes?
star, I'm calling it a night. take care.
Whoops! Busteeeed. So, what are you going to do?
Finished the fed taxes. Taking a short break before I tackle the state, though that won't take as long, even though I'm going to owe them several hundred cuz however they do their formula, they never take out enough over the year. The good news is, I get $8 back from the feds; WOW!! =) that's better than owing anyway.
Watch out for the snake-in-the-grass (heh heh), there's more of them on here than out at your place. ifeelfine is sounding just like an atheist, wonder if he can hear himself. Wonder why he bothers to call himself a christian, maybe cuz he goes to church?
Gotta go compute!
GMG
CP restored both posts Teen made that I flagged. I guess I better cool it or I might get kicked off of CP. I flagged him because I didn't like his attitude towards Chris333 or myself. His attitude is what was inappropriate.
Chris333 asked him why he was afraid of him and why he felt sorry for him. Maybe the dialog between them will produce fruit.
In the end I may need to own up to what I did and why I did it. I don't know.
Hope you are making progress on your taxes. I still haven't done mine yet but mine don''t involve much.
I was out weedwacking near the fence and a cotton mouth snake along the fence started moving. I haven't been able to find where it went. I wish I could so I can kill it. Maybe it will head out to the woods. That is preferable option.
good night GMG. may God bless you.
The biology you had to take in college to get your nursing degree, did you have to learn about all that evolution garbage?
Remember he said he was raised christian, but then he learned better, and he's now rabidly anti-christian. SOMETHING pretty nasty must be behind his rancor, at least pretty nasty to him.
All of us have a lot of unspoken pain in our lives. There is a lot we don't know in any given individual's life. Take ifeelfine for instance. He said he used to believe like us about homosexuality, but he has so many family members involved in it that he finally "saw the light", so to speak. Didn't exactly put it in those words, but that was the basic gist of it.
And I don't think he actually "feels so fine" if you want my opinion.
anyway, getting late, still have a few things to do before I can go to sleep. so I best get at it.
Take care. Sleep well. Talk to you in the next day or two. But tomorrow is DEFINITELY tax day!
When are you going to get your gradbabies back? What does your daughter do for a living?
How do you reason that?
I would think things like this would produce some people like howard.
Yes, it must be very frightening for her. I am glad she did. I hope the victims of this sick pedaphila ring passed off as a religion will be able to be free from the horrors of what they were brainwashed into believing and forced to be a part of. Will they ever be able to trust another religious leader? will they ever be interested in the real Jesus? i don't know. It will take prayer.
That must have taken an unbelievable amount of courage for the girl to make that phone call. Imagine her terror.
Sometimes trying to escape those LDS cults will end up costing you your life. It takes guts to leave.
I am glad that the 16 yr old had enough guts to call the authorities to complain.
Beats me. Warren Jeffs had a lot of money when they caught him.
Where do you get the money to buy a 1900 acre spread?
So hard to believe this stuff goes on. Their inability to do anything on suspicion is the reason why terrorists can get away with so much here. Which is why I agree that we need special exceptions for suspected terrorist activities. I know that is a kind of sticky thing in our "land of the free", but how else do you catch people like that before they blow up a bunch of people. There's got to be a balance somewhere.
Here is atricle about the bed in the temple http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080410/ap_on_re_us/polygamist_retreat
GMGv- here is a sample article http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/06/texas.ranch/
It has been going on now for about a week. Wait a minute and I'll see if I can find an article on it.
No, we don't have tv. Is there a news item someplace? When did this happen?
Have you heard about that mormon cult in Texas that the Tx authorites closed in on? I feel sorry for those young girls who have to marry those older men who could easily be their grandfather. It is just sick. They are forced into marriage in the temple then they have to go to a room in the temple where there is a bed and have sex with their spiritual husband or whatever he is called. Just sick.
No, and I'm running short on time. I better do better tomorrow I think!
Did you make progress on your taxes?
Nite wilderness. Go with God.
star,
the "world" doesn't know any better, more's the pity.
GMG - are you still here?
good night wilderness. God bless you and your family. Thanks for the words of wisdom.
I am logging out, now. Take care. Keep pressing on. And when you are in a storm, remember, if you travel with the storm it will only last longer. Stand still and know that God is God.
Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Yes, Star2.