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Gore's Green Message Resonates with Baptists

By Audrey Barrick|Christian Post Reporter

Former Vice President Al Gore found a responsive crowd among thousands of Baptists when he brought his green message to Atlanta Thursday.

  • Al Gore
    (Photo: New Baptist Covenant)
    Former Vice President Al Gore challenges Baptists to care for God's creation during a luncheon Thursday at the Celebration of a New Baptist Covenant.

Speaking to nearly 2,500 Baptists at a luncheon during a wider Baptist gathering, Gore, a Baptist, challenged them to face the very real moral crisis of global warming and appealed to save God's creation.

"When did people of faith get so locked into an ideological coalition, that they have got to go along with the wealthiest and most powerful who don't want to see change of the kind that is aimed at helping people and protecting God's green earth?" Gore asked.

He decried religious leaders who rejected global warming as a real crisis and urged the Baptist crowd to spread the message of the dangers of climate change.

"We who are Baptists are not going to tolerate heaping contempt on God's creation," said Gore, who won a Nobel Peace Prize for his work on climate change. "It's up to us to send that message, as Christians, as Baptists, as Americans."

His green message came in the middle of a broad Baptist meeting which has drawn Baptists from over 30 organizations representing 20 million Baptists throughout North America. The "Celebration of a New Baptist Covenant" is spearheaded by former President Jimmy Carter and aims at ending internal divisions and creating cooperation among Baptists around social causes.

The Rev. Jimmy Allen, an organizer of the Baptist meeting and a former Southern Baptist president, said Gore's presentation was key for the conference.

"This (climate change) is an issue that has found its day," Allen said, according to Cox News Service. "It is one of the major moral issues of our time."

Evangelicals are increasingly speaking out against greenhouse gas emissions and signing up to make environment protection a priority. They argue that "creation care" is a biblical mandate and some, like the Rev. Richard Cizik of the National Association of Evangelicals, equate the issue with the sanctity of life in importance and urgency.

But not all Christian groups agree with the assessments of the threat of global warming and say it's diverting attention away from more important issues like protecting traditional families and the unborn.

Gore's green message, however, seemed to resonate with Baptists at the Atlanta conference who showed their support by giving him several standing ovations.

"The environment is the No. 1 issue in terms of how we are putting hands and feet to the call of Christ - not just saying but doing," said Bailey Edwards Nelson, a 24-year-old divinity school student at Mercer University's McAfee School of Theology in Atlanta, as reported by The News & Observer.

Calling creation care a Christian responsibility, Jan Moore of Venice, Fla., said she will apply evangelical witnessing to the issue.

"For the ones who choose to ignore it, it is our job to bug them until they get on board," Moore told Cox News Service.

Gore challenged Baptists to make a difference by not only using environmental-friendly products but by challenging political leaders to pass legislation that would reduce carbon emissions.

"The purpose of life is to glorify God," he said. "And if we continue to heap contempt on God's creation, that is inconsistent with glorifying God.

"In every crisis there is an opportunity for a reawakening and for a reassessment and for a change of course and an opportunity to do things better, and that's what the climate crisis is really all about."

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  • Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    It's not easy being green, just ask Kermit.

  • Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Wow, that will be cool. The Baptists are now going to live like John the Baptist, wearing camel skin and eating locusts and honey. Get your cave now, before the big rush. Hey guys, how about a little discernment here?

  • Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    One way we honor God is by being good stewards of what He has placed in our command, which includes taking care of the earth. It doesn't mean we worship creation. I'm not sure where you got that from, but no one ever said that or implied that.

  • Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:46 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Perhaps each true FOLLOWER of Jesus Christ should first ask if we are worshipping the Creator or the creation. Let us each examine ouselves to be sure that we are not violating the Lord's commandments regarding idolatry before we simply pay mindless homage to modern notions of enviornmental stewardship.

  • Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:20 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 3

    Will the real Christian please stand up!

    Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Al Gore might be sincere but they are not Christians.

    Christians know that GOD condemns homosexuality (Sodom & Gommorrah) and that the scripture teaches in 8 (eight) different places against homosexuality.

    Come on my American brothers & sisters your history as a Christian nation is a proud one, with some mistakes yes, but you have been a light shining on a hill, Salt among the nations, please take right ground, we are praying for you.

    100% South African

  • Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    JC,
    What does that have to do with taking care of our planet?

  • JC »
    Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:00 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    "As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease." (Genesis 8:22).

    Enough said.

  • Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:12 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    kc:
    1: Do you believe, that as stewards of this earth (which is what God asked us to be) that we should take care of it?

    2: Do you believe that we are being good stewards of our earth?

    Yes , we are to pray to God for wisdom in how to treat his creation. We are to have faith that things can change...but faith without works is dead. Which I think is what you are saying too (I hope). On our own, we cannot change. But God also gave us commn sense. If carbon emissions and coal power plants are polluting our air (which they are), we don't need to ask God if we should explore alternative energy. If I see a man dying on the side of the road, I'm not going to ask God if I should stop and help him. Common sense says something needs to be done., and I'm gonna do it. Common sense is God whispering in our ear. People need to listen more often.

  • Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:02 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    wilderness and seedplanter thank you for the good links.

  • Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:57 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Prophet- How does a Christian talk?

    What I do not believe in is Al Gore I believe he is a charlatan. My Faith is in the God of our Holy Bible. This planet has gone through many changes when God has wanted change and or he lets it happen. We humans are lost without God, fervent prayer is what is needed, not scare tactics by a bunch of socialist non-believers. When I said keep your eyes on Jesus, and have faith, that is so you don't follow the un-Godly. I don't believe humans will fix climate changes
    unless we do it through prayer and God decides just like Noah and the Ark.
    Ask Jesus to be Lord of your life not Al Gore.

    And it is good to be green just not stupid.......Prophet

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Wow, kc, are you even a Chrisitan? Because you don't talk like one.
    I came to the conclusion that you did not believe in global warming by your two posts from Saturday. The first one says:

    "jammieholland said
    "Hear me O America, There is no Global Warming, look at the so-called evidence, there is no Global Warming. WAKE UP BAPTIST! Its ok to be green, just not stupid. "

    THANK YOU and Amen.!"

    And the second says:

    "Al Gore... he says he invented the internet. Now he is inventing global warming ad will get richer from carbon credits."

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:19 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    http://www.ourcivilisation.com/aginatur/pointlss.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy#Existence_of_a_scientific_consensus

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

    http://www.ncpa.org/ba/ba230.html

    http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/e107_plugins/links_page/links.php

    http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-myths-of-global-warming/

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet i mean

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hahaha there you go again, you said "I merely stated an opinion. I just find it odd that you don't believe in the possibility of global warming"

    How could you know that I don't believe in the possibility of global warming?

    Where is your faith "Profet"

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    kc
    You said "Prophet- Because I don't worship Al Gore you have decided I want to trash the earth?" Show me where I said that.

    You also said "What was it that made you so mad about my post was it that I said we need to keep our eye on Jesus?"
    Show me where I got mad.

    I merely stated an opinion. I just find it odd that you don't believe in the possibility of global warming. We all have our opinions. I would like to know your take on why the polar caps are shrinking. Why climates are changing. Why weather patterns are changing. I'm sure that your views on that are nothing that I haven't heard already, but it would be refreshing to hear it from you.
    I have never heard Gore speak on anything at all, much less his views of global warming. My opinions come from facts stated by a number of different sources that I have come across over the years.
    I've heard it said that there is no concrete proof of global warming. But, then again, there is no concrete proof that it isn't. I choose to err on the side of caution, and the earth...instead of laziness and mankind's selfish ambitions.

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The Money and Connections Behind Al Gore’s Carbon Crusade
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22663

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:28 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Prophet- Because I don't worship Al Gore you have decided I want to trash the earth?

    What was it that made you so mad about my post was it that I said we need to keep our eye on Jesus?

    Are you aware (since you stated you are not political) that many, many scientists that disagree with Al Gore's political movement have been threatened for publicly disagreeing with the socialist/democrat political machine?

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet,

    I don’t think that’s what you posted there. Both of the posts in which you said that against me are still there further down.

  • Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:09 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

    Somebody flagged me, so let me repost.

    If the Bible says that "God said", and someone doesn't believe it...then they don't believe God. Period.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:47 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    No one has attempted to manipulate the world no more than, those who used their Bibles, to do so To use Gore's internet verbal stumble to suggest he is intentionally misleading on climate change, must have no other logic to use. Man has already polluted the vast oceans to the point that is dangerous for some to consume food from the ocean. Foods they have relied on for many generations. The arrogance of those who say man can't cause climate change. I'll refuse to allow anyone to use the tenants of their faith to adversely affect my life and the lives of those that will follow us.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:36 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Boy.... this is a very interesting picture! The New Baptist voice seems to be a voice riddled with compromise. Besides how can Al Gore speak of "glorifying GOD'S creation" while supporting all of the anti JESUS CHRIST and GOD the FATHER policies that he and his cronies create? Glorifying GOD'S creation starts with valuing human life! This entire ordeal is "Hogwash!" How can anyone take any of this seriously? For further comment on global warming among other things check out zadokrev.blogspot.com thanks!

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:25 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    C'mon, folks. THIS IS PURE DRIVEL...GOBBLE, BOBBLE, NONSENSE!!!! Al Gore is no more of a prophet than the tree in my backyard, and that tree is far more credible than Al Gore, anyday.

    The fact is, GORE is a Democratic Socialist!! Pure and simple. What's the matter with the Baptists. Have they lost their minds!!!

    REPENT, FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND!!!

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:32 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Hillary, Barbara Boxer, and Bill Clinton all need to be deported to the South Sandwich Islands.

    1 Timothy 4:1
    [ The Great Apostasy ] Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
    1 Timothy 4:1-3 (in Context) 1 Timothy 4 (Whole Chapter)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


    2 Timothy 4:3
    For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
    2 Timothy 4:2-4 (in Context) 2 Timothy 4 (Whole Chapter)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


    2 Peter 2:1
    [ Destructive Doctrines ] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
    2 Peter 2:1-3 (in Context) 2 Peter 2 (Whole Chapter

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:58 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Why won't Al Gore debate?
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59470

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Global warming: Fact or fable?
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59909

    Global warming or climate change?
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59697

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Kc: “I do see that we are destroying our earth. If you want to justify your reason to continue trashing our earth, then feel free. I (as well as all Christians) was told by God that we are to be in charge of this earth. I don't think He intended for us to trash it the way that we have and are.

    1. Do people act reckless with nature? –Yes
    2. Has God given us a mandate to care for the earth? –Yes
    3. Does this mean that global warming is true? –No
    4. Does this imply that global warming is manmade? –No
    5. Does this mean that man can reverse global warming? –No
    6. Does this imply that GW skeptics want to destroy the environment? –No

    “I don't believe we are exploring alternative, clean energy sources to their fullest extent. That, we can thank the oil cartel and investors for. And I don't believe we are faithful stewards in all that God has given us responsibility for. It's time to take responsibility for our own arrogance, lust, and selfishness.”

    Speaking of investors, most people who have a 401K are actually investing in oil. Even big oil critic Michael Moore has invested in Halliburton. Nevertheless, what’s wrong with nuclear power plants? Most liberals don’t like them, even though France (which is not known for being conservative) has the biggest one in the world. Taking responsibility may include shutting off your computer, selling it and giving the proceeds to Al Gore’s carbon tax; if you really do think he is on to something. When Gore ran for office he wanted to institute a world tax to save the rain forest, now he wants the taxes to go to the UN to fight global warming. This guy is a real winner, if you believe in big government rhetoric.

    I have to appreciate a question that I heard Dr Hugh Ross ask, do you thank God for the fossil fuels when you fill up your car with gas?

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:35 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    I'm glad that the religious and the non-religious can stand together on this important issue. I think it's really despicable that some people have actually managed to rationalize destroying our only home.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Well stated Prophet!

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:45 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    kc,
    I'm not much of a political person. But I have taken a look at the facts. I do see that we are destroying our earth. If you want to justify your reason to continue trashing our earth, then feel free. I (as well as all Christians) was told by God that we are to be in charge of this earth. I don't think He intended for us to trash it the way that we have and are.
    I don't believe we are exploring alternative, clean energy sources to their fullest extent. That, we can thank the oil cartel and investors for. And I don't believe we are faithful stewards in all that God has given us responsibility for. It's time to take responsibility for our own arrogance, lust, and selfishness.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    If the Bible says that "God said", and someone doesn't believe it...then they don't believe God. Period.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:59 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Al Gore... he says he invented the internet. Now he is inventing global warming ad will get richer from carbon credits.
    If we would keep our eyes on Jesus we would not fall for the latest scheme to manipulate the world. Clinton, Gore and Carter, why would anyone listen to them when we have the Bible? Does anyone think the Lord can't fix the worlds problems? but, Clinton, Gore and Carter can?

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:42 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    jammieholland said
    "Hear me O America, There is no Global Warming, look at the so-called evidence, there is no Global Warming. WAKE UP BAPTIST! Its ok to be green, just not stupid. "

    THANK YOU and Amen.!

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:42 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    tgender,

    You said, “I think it is dangerous to interpret a passage where “God says” as not being what God actually said. This is what the Jesus Seminar did with Christ’s sayings in the Gospels.”

    Let me first say that I altogether disagree with the Jesus Seminar. What they do is tantamount to applying scissors to the Bible, and that I think is wrong. Now I think that to “interpret a passage where “God says” as not being what God actually said” can be dangerous, but then I’ve found that all the different ways people interpret the Bible can be dangerous.

    You ask, “Do you take verses you consider to be “mythical” as being true and having real meaning and application for us?”

    Yes, very much so.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:11 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Amen, tgender.

    If the Bible says that "God said", and someone doesn't believe it...then they don't believe God. Period.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:04 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    didymus-

    Thanks for your response. You said “I don’t think God literally said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him’”. I think it is dangerous to interpret a passage where “God says” as not being what God actually said. This is what the Jesus Seminar did with Christ’s sayings in the Gospels. What was left was nothing like the Jesus we worship. Do you take verses you consider to be “mythical” as being true and having real meaning and application for us?

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:53 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    didymus,
    How do you know that the Gospels aren't metaphorical?

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Prophet,

    You said, “I have a feeling that didymus also takes the Gospels as mythical too. He's afraid to face the truth, because it doesn't fit his agenda...it doesn't fit his small view of God. His god is impontent and fallible. He can't believe that God could be powerful enough to create a universe.” (as well as the rest of your post)

    You’re wrong.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:35 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    And, yes, Genesis 1 and 2 are literal.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    tgender,
    I have a feeling that didymus also takes the Gospels as mythical too. He's afraid to face the truth, because it doesn't fit his agenda...it doesn't fit his small view of God. His god is impontent and fallible. He can't believe that God could be powerful enough to create a universe. So, he tells us how his god did it. He now controls god. He has placed his wisdom above God's.
    There is a difference between interpreting scriptures, and twisting them so far beyond common sense.
    But I do like his MO. If you don't agree with something, just take it metaphorically. I think I'll do that with Galatians 5:19-21. Those scriptures aren't to be taken literal. Yeah, that frees me up to do and believe whatever I want. I like that idea.
    The sad thing is, God's truth doesn't change...regardless of what we believe. And though it may make us feel warm and fuzzy on the inside, the day will come when we will answer to God for what we taught and how we lived.

    "Instead of changing ourselves to conform to the image of Christ, we change the image of Christ to conform to us."

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:32 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    tgender,

    Well, I mostly agree with you concerning your view on Genesis 2:18. But since I don’t view the story this verse is in as having literally happened I disagree with the part where you say, “This verse relates a sort of divine pause in God’s creation of mankind. He had created Adam, but not yet Eve”, and I wouldn’t say that God was literally “ordaining His first social institution” right here, since this is a story, and not literal history. But the rest of your view I’d agree with.

    So, in other words, I don’t think God literally said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him”, I don’t think God literal brought all the animals to see Adam, I don’t think he literally took one of Adam’s ribs and literally made a woman out of it. But this story does relay what God thinks. Animals are not suitable partners for a man (nor a woman for that matter), a woman is a suitable partner for a man and divinely ordained to be so. (Of course I get more out of this story than what I’ve mentioned here, but since you asked how it relates to my view of theistic evolution.)

    Incidentally, evolution would basically say the same thing concerning the whole suitability thing, only not quite so poetically. Animals are not suitable partners for mankind, a man and a woman are suitable partners, they were in a sense made for each other, otherwise they could not reproduce.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:09 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    didymus-
    The Bible should be interpreted like we interpret any other kind of literature. We should seek to understand what the author’s meaning and intent were. Ordinarily, we take statements in their plain literal sense unless the meaning would be absurd, in which case we seek to discover the symbolic meaning. When I say I have heartburn or watched the sun set, you understand me not to be literal, but symbolic.

    Your response seemed to try to get me to believe that there is such a thing as symbolic or metaphorical literature, but I already agree with you on that. But how are we to interpret Gen 2:18 specifically? You didn’t give me any reasons to take this passage non-literally nor did you explain what the meaning is. Here is my explanation: This verse relates a sort of divine pause in God’s creation of mankind. He had created Adam, but not yet Eve. God is a social Being in His very nature of being triune. He created mankind for relationship, not only with Him, but also with each other. God is teaching us that it is good and right for a man to be with a woman and they will become one (Gen 2:24). God is ordaining His first social institution—marriage—based on the very pattern of His internal nature. Just as Jesus said that He and the Father were one, Gen 2:24 says that husband and wife will be one. So, God is saying literally that it is not good for man to be alone.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'm still hung up on the notion that there are two kinds of Christians, conservative and liberal.

  • Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:25 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    Hear me O America, There is no Global Warming, look at the so-called evidence, there is no Global Warming. WAKE UP BAPTIST! Its ok to be green, just not stupid.

  • Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    You can watch the 1-minute Gore video here: http://americansfortruth.com/news/al-gore-embraces-homosexual-marriage.html

  • Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:56 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    ifeelfine72: “If you take a look at the evidence and don't believe the facts of evolution, you are calling God a liar. Why would God set up some elaborate hoax on all of us? He wouldn't.”

    This does kind of beg the question though doesn’t it? I’m mean presupposing natural selection is true, that modern science has figured it all out and all. I’m not so sure that the evidence is strong enough to test God with it. But I guess if that’s what you want to do…

    “Evidence for structural difference/ descent does not constitute evidence for the mechanism by which structural transformation took place.” -David L. Wilcox

    http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/fte/darwinism/chapter13.html

  • Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:32 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Romans 1:16-32 (New King James Version)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.



    The Just Live by Faith

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,[a] for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”[b]
    God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness

    18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
    24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
    26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[c] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[d] unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

    Footnotes:

    Romans 1:16 NU-Text omits of Christ.
    Romans 1:17 Habakkuk 2:4
    Romans 1:29 NU-Text omits sexual immorality.
    Romans 1:31 NU-Text omits unforgiving.

  • Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:29 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    John 14:6 (New King James Version)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.

    6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.




    Acts 4:11-12 (New King James Version)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


    11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’[a] 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

    Footnotes:

    Acts 4:11 Psalm 118:22

  • Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:23 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    1 Timothy 4:1
    [ The Great Apostasy ] Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,
    1 Timothy 4:1-3 (in Context) 1 Timothy 4 (Whole Chapter)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


    2 Timothy 4:3
    For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
    2 Timothy 4:2-4 (in Context) 2 Timothy 4 (Whole Chapter)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


    2 Peter 2:1
    [ Destructive Doctrines ] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
    2 Peter 2:1-3 (in Context) 2 Peter 2 (Whole Chapter)

  • Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:22 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    1 Corinthians 1:18
    [ Christ the Power and Wisdom of God ] For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
    1 Corinthians 1:17-19 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter)
    1 Corinthians 1:21
    For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
    1 Corinthians 1:20-22 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter)
    1 Corinthians 1:25
    Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
    1 Corinthians 1:24-26 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter)
    1 Corinthians 2:14
    But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
    1 Corinthians 2:13-15 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 2 (Whole Chapter)
    1 Corinthians 3:19
    For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”;
    1 Corinthians 3:18-20 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 3 (Whole Chapter)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.

  • Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:20 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    didymus-
    How would you explain Gen 2:18--The Lord God said, 'It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him"? I don't see how you can square this verse from a theistic evolutionary perspective. Did only a man evolve and then God evolved a woman? Of course, that couldn't have happened because man couldn't reproduce without women.

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