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Survey: Journey to Rid Gay Attractions Not Harmful

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Mon, Feb. 11 2008 05:08 PM ET
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Change for a man wrestling with homosexual attractions is not only possible but the pursuit of change can also be a positive experience, a recent survey shows.

The survey by People Can Change, a non-profit and non-religious organization that offers training, healing and support for men with unwanted same-sex feelings, revealed that 9 out of 10 men who participated in a weekend program reported a decrease in distress, shame and self-condemnation. They also felt better about themselves.

People Can Change founder Rich Wyler calls it an "incredibly vital" finding, especially at a time when psychologists, gay rights groups and other critics of ex-gay programs contend that the process of change out of homosexual attractions is harmful.

The organization surveyed men from across the country who participated in a program called "Journey Into Manhood" – a 48-hour intensive personal-growth and self-discovery weekend for men serious about resolving unwanted homosexual feelings – between January 2002 and December 2006. They were surveyed mid-2007, which was anywhere between six months and six years after the men experienced the Journey.

Among the more than 200 individuals who responded to the survey, 79 percent reported a decrease in the frequency or intensity of same-sex feelings since the Journey Into Manhood weekend; 13 percent reported no change and that their same-sex feelings continue; and 6 percent said such attractions actually increased.

In terms of behavior, 73 percent reported a decrease in same-sex behaviors; 8 percent said such behaviors continue; and 5 percent reported an increase in same-sex behaviors.

Given that the program is a short weekend, it is not clear what exactly led some men to change their feelings and behaviors during the months or years after the Journey.

While 56 percent had experienced "significant" same-sex attraction at the time they took the Journey Into Manhood, the number dropped to 14 percent after the Journey.

Diminished same-sex attraction does not necessarily amount to increased heterosexual feelings, but Wyler says that's likely the case.

"What we find is that as homosexual attractions are resolved, very often heterosexual attractions emerge spontaneously," he told The Christian Post.

According to survey results, 58 percent reported an increase in heterosexual attractions and 50 percent said they experienced an increase in heterosexual behaviors (dating, intimacy, etc.) since the weekend program. Still, 28 percent reported neither an increase nor decrease in heterosexual attractions and 44 percent also reported no change in heterosexua behaviors.

Overall, 13 percent said they experienced enough change to now consider themselves straight and another 73 percent said they will continue to work on further change. Meanwhile, 12 percent said they have come to peace with their same-sex attractions and are not pursuing further change.

Change is possible, Wyler – who also came out of homosexual attractions – simply concluded.

Wyler says many opponents argue that because such programs haven't worked for them, they can't work for anyone else. At the same time, he also says it's faulty for people who have changed to say everyone else can change. Wyler's main goal is for people to overcome the distress of homosexuality and the behavior if that's what they want to do.

And the Journey Into Manhood was designed to bring emotional healing to the individual whether they successfully come out of homosexual attractions or not.

"They come into the program wanting their homosexual feelings to diminish but also come to ... not feel distressed about it," Wyler said. "If you're at peace with your life and living the life you believe God wants you to, that to me is the bottom line."

The survey showed 93 percent of participants said Journey Into Manhood had a positive impact on their efforts to diminish same-sex attraction and/or increase opposite-sex attraction; 91 percent reported a decrease in distress, shame or self-condemnation; 83 percent said they feel more masculine, feel more peace in their lives, and are happier; 79 percent said they have less shame or guilt in their lives; 74 percent said they brought their behavior and feelings more in line with their values and beliefs; 65 percent said they have less lust; and 63 percent said they feel more connected to God/spirituality.

Wyler founded People Can Change in September 2000 and co-created Journey Into Manhood in 2002 with David Matheson, a therapist specializing in gender affirming therapy. Part of the reason they created the weekend program was in response to the opposition within the therapeutic community to programs helping people struggling with homosexual attractions.

"They (therapeutic community) have turned their back on those of us who seek change," Wyler said. "People mistakenly think it causes harm."

The American Psychological Association is currently revising its 10-year-old policy on counseling homosexuals after years of pressure from pro-gay groups that say such therapy is harmful. Some groups, most notably religious ones, have expressed concern that the revised policy, due out mid this year, may ban all reparative therapies and have called psychologists to respect religious commitments and allow those who are seeking change out of same-sex desires to be offered the help.

"There's a lot of evidence that change happens for at least some people," Wyler insisted. "So for therapists to suggest there is no evidence of change is idiocy.

"The pursuit of change can be a very positive experience when it's pursued in a healthy appropriate way."

Correction: Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2008:

An article on Monday, Feb. 11, 2008, about a new survey of men who participated in a program to come out of same-sex attractions and reduce distress incorrectly reported that the men were queried twice. The Christian Post confirmed that this was not a longitudinal study but a survey that queried the men once, anywhere between six months and six years after their participation in the Journey Into Manhood.

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BmoreTeacher
  • Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:35 pm
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God will not change someone from being gay because he has no reason to. People are created black for a reason, people are created gay for a reason. How dare you try to twist the words of the Bible and pretend you know more than God? This article is baloney: If you surveyed me right after a brain washing weekend, I would say I felt better too. As time goes on, and the feelings of guilt grow stronger, and depression sets in because I am not changing to the way a bunch of Christians who refuse to study true scientific data say i should be, I might not feel so comfortable. My goodness people, look into the studies before you begin passing them around as fact!
TheArchitectureStudent
  • Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:29 am
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why fix something that isnt broken?
search4god
  • Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:57 pm
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Hi,
Nice article.

Sad to see that it is filled with someones numerology figures. Attempting to make "more than 200" look like an enormous participation of past patients, when it is itself an obvious small percentage of the original group(s).

The gist of the whole thing is that the only persons to really profit from it are the homosexuals who came to be more accepting of their own selves. Not the original intentions of the therapy.

The 13% who came to consider themselves straight are a real situation though. These are the main group who will degrade into damaged individuals. They are success to the therapy because they avoid homosexual contact, not because they enjoy heterosexual contact.
You see? They are the ones who are NOT well adjusted to their environment. They have hope that they will be heterosexual and accepted by their fellow Christians. Having been made to believe that Christ had no place for them before, if they do not succeed, who will accept them after? These are the poor souls who have become sheep without a Shepard.
Having been treated as if they are the least of God's children, if they do not succeed in becoming heterosexual, they have no place left to turn.

True hope can only come from Jesus. If one despairs and seeks help in the name of the Christ, Christ promises that He will send the Holy Ghost, the comforter, to these in need.
It is also the only unforgivable sin, to deny the Holy Ghost.
To deny the comforter. Many say this is to commit suicide. I say that it is as it is written, to deny anyone "hope".

The 13% success rate needs a prayer from everyone. Not that they live as I think they should, but to live as God tells them to live.
search4god
  • Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:57 pm
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Hi,
I am new and a bit confused (my natural state of being :).
Is there some question of this article that it should not be posted or considered? This thing should have never happened and all should be warned of the possibilities, lest my child be so used by another person.
Thereby, it is part of my first post. Thank you.

By Dean Pritchard

A minister and former Christian college instructor has been found guilty of sexually assaulting a young man who sought counselling after he feared he was homosexual.

A jury returned with the guilty verdict early last night after only a few hours of deliberations.

Terrance Lewis, 60, will be sentenced at a later date.

Earlier in the day, defence lawyer Ron Simenik argued the victim knew full well the intimate sessions he shared with Lewis had nothing to do with “therapy.”

“They did it mutually by consent,” Simenik said. “We may not agree with it or understand it, but at the end of the day, that’s not the issue.”

Crown attorney Dale Schille said the evidence against Lewis was “overwhelming” and he never denied the allegations in a statement to police.

In earlier testimony, the alleged victim, now 29, told court he started meeting Lewis for counselling sessions in early 2000 after his parents caught him viewing gay pornography on the family computer.

Lewis — a family friend and minister — confided he had his own sexual identity issues and the two embarked on weekly counselling sessions designed to “assist me to be straight and to live a straight life,” the man said.

The man said Lewis started a program of “touch therapy,” which included the two kissing and fondling each other and engaging in sexual roleplaying.

“He said I was to tell no one about it because no one would understand,” the man testified.

During “touch therapy” sessions in Lewis’ car, Lewis asked him to masturbate, the man said. Lewis also admitted to fantasizing about him, the man said.

Simenik said yesterday the men didn’t become sexually intimate until a year after they started seeing each other.

“It started as a friendship, evolved, they became closer ... two consenting adults involved in mutual intimacy,” Simenik said.
Prophet
  • Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:32 pm
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I don't think it's possible to post it as a clickable website. I've seen countless people post sites on here, and they're all copy and paste.
I'll see if I can find time to check out that site. And I apologize for whoever flagged you.
NoWire
  • Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:52 pm
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Prophet, the article I was referencing is still below, but here it is at the bottom. I'm not saying all so-called reparative therapists' harm is this bad, but it's certainly worth a look-see. (Sorry I don't know how to post it as a click-able link, so copy it to your browser.)

http://www.winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2008/02/14/4847839.html
Prophet
  • Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:09 pm
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nowire
Please post again. Although I don't agree with you, I don't believe you should be flagged for something like that.
NoWire
  • Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:49 am
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Flag if you feel you must, but all I did was post what the self-proclaimed Christian conversion therapist did to his "patient" and why he's going to jail, which is hardly a comparison to free speech in Sweden.
NoWire
  • Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:05 am
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Well I'm glad the preacher's free speech was protected, no matter what he may have said about that biblical story. But I don't think the Christian "therapist" who performed sex acts on his 30-years-younger "client" will get off so easily!
seedplanter
  • Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:38 pm
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NoWire, Thanks for the interesting article:

“A minister and former Christian college instructor has been found guilty of sexually assaulting a young man who sought counseling after he feared he was homosexual.”

The FBI actually paid a visit to a pastor in southern Illinois when he had been preaching on Sodom and Gomorrah. I don’t know of you heard about the pastor in Sweden (I believe it was) who had been arrested. I think he was exonerated later.
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