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Younger Catholics Becoming Increasingly Liberal, Studies Show

By Alexander Sheffrin|Christian Post Contributor

In a recently released book titled “American Catholics Today: New Realities of Their Faith and Church,” University of Connecticut Professor and Emeritus of Sociology William d’Antonio confirms a consistent trend among younger Catholics – in every survey since 1987, younger Catholics have become increasingly more liberal and less practicing in their faith and values.

The results are most striking among college-aged Catholics.

"We've had four [surveys] since the first one,” d’Antonio says, “and what they have shown over time is that there's a big generational gap between the grandparent's generation – that is Catholics born in the forties – and Catholics of the millennial generation, who were born in the seventies and eighties.”

According to the results, only 15 percent of college-aged Catholics said they attended mass. In contrast, 60 percent of those aged 65 and older said they attended church services every week.

Most revealing, however, is the divergence in views among younger Catholics with their parents and grandparents regarding abortion, homosexuality, and divorce.

D’Antonio attributes the results to the increasing tolerance that young people give to different lifestyles in today’s culture.

"When I was [that] age I didn't know anyone who was homosexual. When anyone got divorced, it was a scandal,” he says.

Other studies, meanwhile, have revealed that Catholics as a whole have generally become more diverged in their views when held up to official church teachings.

In June 2007, The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops' Committee on Marriage and Family Life released results that revealed a high acceptance of divorce among adult Catholics; 76 percent said they believed divorce was acceptable.

“Cafeteria Catholicism,” the practice of picking and choosing only those beliefs considered “convenient,” has been attributed to the increasing rise in liberal views among many Catholics.

The term has no status in official Catholic teachings. However, the practice of selective adherence to the magisterium of the church has been repeatedly condemned through the teaching of the popes.

Pope Benedict XVI spoke against the divergence with church teachings when he delivered his April 2005 homily at the opening Mass of the conclave that elected him the 265th pope.

“[R]elativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and ‘swept along by every wind of teaching,’ looks like the only attitude [acceptable] to today's standards,” he said.
“However …” he added later, “[b]eing an ‘adult’ means having a faith which does not follow the waves of today's fashions or the latest novelties.”

“A faith which is deeply rooted in friendship with Christ is adult and mature."

Following Benedict's election, New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd wrote: “For American Catholics – especially women and Democratic pro-choice Catholic pols – the cafeteria is officially closed.”

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  • Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:31 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Tliml,

    Let those who know the Lord Jesus Christ judge between the Scriptures and the traditions of your religion. The example we have – “Jesus quoting scripture” is biblically based. So, you can continue to talk about candles, beads, relics, apparitions, and other medieval mysteries. All of the previous mentioned religious practices are nowhere to be found in the Scriptures. Authority; we have the same authority that Jesus himself had – “It is written”. If it was good enough for him than it is good enough for me.

  • GMG »
    Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:01 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    tliml,

    "Is there a commandment "Thou shalt keep holy the scripture"? "

    No, but there is one that says, I am the Lord your God, you shall have no other gods before me.

    When the pastor preaches during the sermon, he oftentimes takes his sermon from a bible text, and we follow through the scriptures with him.

    But the point I guess is that, what better day, than the day we set aside for the Lord, to spend time in His word to us. And I'm not sure that I've ever taken any scripture casually.

  • Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:10 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Oh and by the by... what authority do Protestant churches have? Seriously... The Catholic Church has been studying the bible about... umm... 100 times longer than you...? Your churches have no authority. The Catholic Church is the only true authority. Would you like to know our authority? The Eucharist. And I have a story to tell. You know Our Lady of Guada Lupe? Well... the shroud she is on was owned by Juan Diego, it was made of cactus fibres and, being fibres, they would generally disintegrate within 40 years. The shroud was touched, examined, placed near candles, and almost burned. It is still in pristine condition to this day. There are pigments in the painting that scientists cannot identify as any element or compound of this earth. Mary's face is painted in watercolor, her cloak is in oil. This is IMPOSSIBLE (was at the time) you see, the sizing that they put on the painting before they paint it has to be either water color, oil, or berry, otherwise it just doesn't work. And you have to use the same sizing, so obviously nobody could have actually painted it. Mary's blue cloak has stars on it in the EXACT position that the starts would have been in at the time. In her eyes are a PHOTOGRAPHIC IMAGE of the bishop of Guada Lupe and Juan Diego in the exact positions they were in when Juan Diego showed the shroud to the bishop. I need to go and I will continue this later, there is much more evidence in the miracle of Guadalupe.

  • Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Online4Him-

    Your conclusions of the scripture are, once again, bent to what you want them to say. A priest is simply one that preaches and serves Jesus. :D Happy happy joy joy, I have swatted down your quotes with a definition.

    GMG-

    Wrong. Is there a commandment "Thou shalt keep holy the scripture"? No there is NOT, so the Sabbath OBVIOUSLY takes supremecy over reading the Scripture. What, while your umm... "Reverand" is talking you just read the bible? Wow... he is just wasting his breat then, when he/SHE knows very well that you are not concentrating on him/HER, but casually brushing over Genesis through JUDAS.

  • Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:25 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Tliml,

    Again, Mass is what you call your gatherings; it is a Catholic term. Meditating on the Word of God is more beneficial than meditating on repetitious liturgy. There is a vast difference between your religion and what the Scriptures teach; your religion makes you entirely dependent on its clergy. In contrast, the Scriptures teach that every believer in Christ is a minister. Keeping the Sabbath holy is as you describe it, does not sound so holy. Have ye not read these passages?

    Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ – 1Peter 2:5.

    But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; - 1Peter 2:9.

  • GMG »
    Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:20 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    tliml

    How can reading the bible, God's own word to us, be something other than making Him #1?? What is it about the mass that you think is more important than God's word.

  • Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    When you are reading the bible during mass instead of paying attention to the mass itself you are not making God numero uno. Keep Holy the Sabbath means not only GO to mass, but when you are at mass, you keep it holy, by PAYING ATTENTION and meditating on the MASS. I find it HILARIOUS that you scoff at us for observing the commandments.

  • Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:37 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    thelordismylight,

    How does reading the Word of God in church wrong? That sounds very legalistic, if you ask me. Hearing or reading the Word of God is better than a repetitious liturgy.

  • Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Online4Him-

    My trip was wonderful, you do not need to post any verses. Thou shalt keep holy the sabbath. Do not act like private devotions replace the liturgy, God's greatest prayer.

  • Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:46 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Tliml,

    How was your trip? Mass? Protestants do not have mass; so, opening your bible is wrong during service? That may be so in your religion; which “private” verses would you like me to post?

  • Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:52 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Here is something wrong with the Protestent Church(es) During mass people read the bible. I have seen it done. They will crack open a bible when the priest is talking and begin reading it. Private devotions do NOT replace the greatest prayer of them all, mass. The Protestant Church even encourages it.

  • Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Online4Him-

    To which church do you belong? You must attend mass somewhere.

  • Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:47 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Heeeeeeeeeeeere'sJOHNNY!

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:48 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Taj,

    The issue is really not how many times a particular church is mentioned; it is the message itself. The real issues are the gospel and salvation; you know accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Many of these articles are interesting and relevant for our day, however, most of the postings here regarding the articles on "faith" are what people here are discussing and debating.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:57 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Online4Him,

    I come here because they write interesting articles about Catholics. Does it offend me when people criticize my faith? no, because it shows that my faith is relevant. For example, let's take the former group you used to belong to: the seventh day adventists. How many articles does CP write about them? not very many. Actually if you look in the archives you will see it is a very small amount. Why? because nobody really cares what they think about various issues. I mean when you get a lot of comments about a study which premise is that Catholic youth are more liberal than previous generations and it receives a lot of comments (good and bad) one notices the relevance of the Church.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:44 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    star2,

    No worries; we are still pals :)

    I have to go to work now; we will chat later. God bless.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:43 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    truthandjustice,

    First of all; you come here (CP) to post statments concerning your faith; does it offend you that others post statements disagreeing with you? If you do not want to hear any rebuttals concerning your claims; why post anything at all?

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:40 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Online4Him

    Forgive me. God is our judge whether we be right or worng. None of us are perfect.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:40 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    faithmustbeproven,

    Your religious zeal blinds you my friend.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:38 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    faithmustbeproven,

    I do not buy it; am I to take your word over historians? How can you sit there and try to justify the numbers? IT WAS WRONG TO BEGIN WITH.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:36 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Star2,

    "My" personal experience with timl concerning his word and logging on or logging off is a fact. My point was - he has told me that he would be right back in about 15 minutes and then never returned; this happened several times. So, I do not think making a factual statement concerning my experience with him justifies "talking behind his back". Why even post something like that?

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Well I have to go.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:47 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Ya know, it is pretty safe to say that Martin Luther, if he came back now, would probably rejoin the Catholic Church instead of joining one of the Protestant denominations.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:44 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    The English Protestants SHOULD have said "Semper Fideles... until the going gets rough... or our hands get dirty... or we lose faith because we are bored..." Oh and by the way I did some research. Martin Luther. You know that guy? He believed in the Immaculate Conception. He loved Mary. He wrote in his journal "She is the path that leads me to Jesus" which is IRONICALLY the way the Catholic Church looks at her.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:40 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    Our church song expresses the church itself.

    Adeste fideles, laeti triumfantes:
    Venite, venite, venite in Bethlehem:
    Natum videte, Regem angelorum.
    Venite, venite, venite adoremus Dominum.

    The Catholic Church is the only one that has remained faithful, so when english Protestants were saying Semper Fideles... that is a load of bull stool.

  • Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:35 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 4

    Online4Him-

    I have to write a book about this, it will be titled "The Inquisition, Reasonless? Or Reasonful?" The minor and major Protestants alike were doing something very similar to the Catholics, even though it was village by village and not organized as well it was still just as widespread as the Catholic Inquisition, and by the way, many Protestant books about the Inquisition LIE. One VERY popular book said 90 million people were killed by the Inqisition... Euroupe didn't have that many people to kill... Yea, the book is saying the Catholic Church outdid Hitler, the TRUE number, estimated by non-biased sources is actually about 20,000 that actually DIED from all of the French to Spanish Inquisitions. Around 8,000 executions are estimated to actually have been carried out by CHURCH officials, the rest were carried out by government officials. The Inquisition is EXTREMELY exaggerated by Fundamentalists to try and prove somehow that Catholicism is wrong... right...

    Catholicism has one thing that gives it a greater authority than all other churches.

  • GMG »
    Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    star

    Thank you.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    GMG

    I concur, you are correct here. I appoligize.

  • GMG »
    Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    star

    I don't make negative comments about tliml when he has to leave.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    truthandjustice1,

    That same question can be directed back at you; you continually comment on other articles that do not pertain to the Catholic Church.

    Not true, I believe I did once on an article related to mormonism. 98% of the time Catholicism is discussed or mentioned in the article and I'm usually defending my faith against people like you. Why would you care if a study found more Catholics sang on the way to Church or are more liberal? The reason is because even a useless study like this is important because the Church is relevant. Personally I wouldn't comment if I read an article about some other denominations youth appearing more liberal in a study.. what makes this article relevant to me is because they are Catholic

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Online4Him

    tliml made the following statement on "Jehovah witnesses, mormons.." article the other night.

    "And I have to go now. Sorry, I have a life that demands my attention. When I have to go I have to go, so you can shut your obnoxious little mouth about when I am on and when I am not. Seriously dude, I don't make comments when you or Online say you are getting tired or you have to leave.'

    You and Prophet were debating/discussing different issues related to Catholism. When tliml was gone Prophet in this case was making some very ugly comments. I don't blame tliml for being upset.

    As far as you and GMG goes, when tliml leaves you two make remarks about him actually keeping his word about coming back. He has always come back when he has told me he would. I just think it is a little unkind to talk negatively about him even if some of your experiences indicate he won't keep his word. Read the exchange between you, GMG, and me in regard to him having to leave to do something on page 6,7,8 of this board.

    Re: tliml comment - I don't make comments when you or Online say you are getting tired or you have to leave.'

    I side with him here. I don't ever remember him making negative comments about you, GMG, Prophet or anyone else for that matter when they need to leave the discussion.

    What is said obviously bothers him. I don't think that it is Christ like to talk the way you all talk about him when he is gone. Prophet was the worse. 1 Corinthians 13:2 - "And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." I think as Christians we need to take heed to this verse.

    Of course, thelordismylight says some pretty ugly things when he is talking with us all. He is kind of mean and harsh like faithmustbeproven12356 says.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    star2,

    Well, I will have to review this tomorrow. I am going to retire for this evening :)

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Let me go get some specific examples.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hi Online

    I don't know if faithmustbeproven12356 will be back tonight. Their time I think is about 8 hrs ahead of central time, I think.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:22 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Star2,

    Re:What I am refering to is the exchanges between you and GMG when he leaves for awhile.

    Can you be a little more specific here? As to what I may have said.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:20 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Faithmustbeproven,

    But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; - Matthew 5:44.

    This is something that men in general “choose” not to do. It is difficult to live in certain parts of the globe but all acts of violence are not of God. Remember what Jesus said –

    They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service – John 16:2.

    Unfortunately, men have and do feel that it is within their power to “impose” their beliefs upon one another. Again; this is not of God. The acts that you described are shameful to say the least; I do not support violence of any sort.

    You said, “And you lot really did help Ireland out in all sorts,”

    As you speak of these injustices; your church is world renowned for its hostility to those outside its walls. Your church was one that sanctioned the inquisition and ruled Europe for a thousand years, known as the dark ages. It has been known to subvert entire kingdoms in order to have its way in matters of faith. It has instigated wars all in the name of God throughout its history.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    faithmustbeproven12356


    By the way, not that it really matters, Online4Him, wilderness, and GMG are all ex-Catholics.

    I am not an ex-Catholic. I was raised and saved in the Baptist Church.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    faithmustbeproven12356

    Re: Online4Him said - just because we passionatley dissagree with one another does not mean "hate".

    I don't hate you and neither does Online. No protestant on this board whether it be me, Online, wilderness or GMG hates you or any Catholic. We just strongly diagree with the teachings of the Catholic Church. They are not scriptural. They do not bring truth and life.

    As far as getting thumbs down - it is hard to get them. Everyone wants others to agree with their opinion. But, reality has it, that isn't possible.

    It is human nature to look to man for our approval. One needs to look to God for his approval and not to man. Not always an easy thing to do; at least, not for me. I have failed many times in this.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    faithmustbeproven12356

    I am sorry to hear about the ungodly acts of the Prostestants and the Catholics in Ireland towards one another. If they don't repent, receive Jesus as their Savior and Lord, and walk (live their life) in obedience to Him they will perish. I don't care what religious affiliation they have.

    Their ungodly acts only go to prove that they have never been saved and are in rebellion against God.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    lol, I can totally play the hate card. I get the "hate card" played on me about once a week. Try being a Catholic in England. Somehow I cannot believe in a religion that spraypaints people's houses just because they are Catholic, sets off C.D. players in the middle of a mass connected to speakers so that everyone has to evacuate, steals the Eucharist and desecrates it, and does all sorts of horrendous things to us. I find it extremely difficult to believe. And you lot really did help Ireland out in all sorts, you basically made the streets of Belfast a mine field.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:50 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I caught your last post before logging off; please do not play the hate card, just because we passionatley dissagree with one another does not mean "hate".

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:49 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    faithmustbeproven,

    Jesus' death on Calvary is all sufficient and the only sacrifice that was needed; I will be back in a couple of hours; errands to run. I guess, we will continue this a bit later.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Online4Him-

    No, they are not even reading them, they gave my comment a thumbs down thirty seconds after it was posted, they couldn't have read it. They are just disagreeing with me because I am Catholic. I GET IT GUYS! I AM CATHOLIC, YOU HATE ME, YOU DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING I SAY! I don't need you to figure that out.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:45 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Online4Him-

    I will pray for you that you doubt Jesus' ability to make a wafer his body.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:45 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    faithmustbeproven,

    Obviously, there are those who are reading our discussions; don't blame me if others do not agree with you assumptions.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:44 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    faithmustbeproven,

    It is astonishing to me that you really belive that a little round wafer is acutally Jesus? Please read your bible and come out of the dark ages.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    lol, you gave THAT a thumbs down too? Ok, seriously, grow up.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Look, Jesus only died once, but he gives us his body and blood to renew the promise that he made. It is also a symbolism of the Covenant that God made with humanity, a ditch was filled with animal blood and God was making a promise to Abraham and he walked through the blood saying "If I break this covenant this is what you may do to me" and then when it came for Abraham to walk through it, God walked through it again saying "If you break this covenant then this is what you do to me" He made the all atoning sacrifice only once, but he renews the promise with the Eucharist.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Alright, within thrity seconds of its posting it got two thumbs down, you couldn't have even read it. That is just pathetic.

  • Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:40 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    faithmustbeproven,

    Are you even reading my posts or are you just frantically typing away your assumptions?

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