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World|Sun, Mar. 09 2008 01:43 PM EDT

National Muslim-Christian Initiative Launches in N. America

By Ethan Cole|Christian Post Reporter

Christian and Muslim leaders met this past week to launch the National Muslim-Christian Initiative in North America aimed at facilitating greater understanding between the two religious communities.

  • Muslim-Christian
    (Photo: Episcopal Life)
    Muslim and Christian leaders met near Washington, D.C., to launch new interfaith initiative. Among representatives pictured are the three co-chairs: the Rev. Dr. Gwynne Guibord (seated second from left), consultant for interfaith relations of the Episcopal Church; Mohamed Elsanousi (standing at center), director of communications and community outreach of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA); and Dr. Peter Makari (standing at right), co-chair of the National Council of Churches' Interfaith Relations Commission.

Representatives of several Christian groups, including the Rev. Dr. Gwynne Guibord, consultant for interfaith relations for the Episcopal Church, and Dr. Peter Makari, co-chair of the National Council of Churches' Interfaith Relations Commission, were present at the meeting held near Washington, D.C from Feb. 27 to 28.

The Rev. Guibord and Mohamed Elsanousi, director of communications and community outreach of the Islamic society of North America (ISNA), coordinated the meeting after several recent consultations between Muslim and Christian leaders.

"This Initiative of Muslim and Christian leaders sends a message to those in North America – [that] we co-exist in vibrant communities where awareness and cooperation will be our common future together," said co-convener Dr. Peter Makari, co-chair of the NCC's Interfaith Relations Commission, according to Episcopal Life.

The initiative’s mission, as stated in its mission statement adopted this past week, is to “enhance mutual understanding, respect, appreciation and support of what is sacred for each other through dialogue, education and sustained visible encounters that foster and nurture relationships.”

Representatives at the meeting discussed their desire for relationships of trust between the two communities, and to explore areas of common concern and understanding.

"This initiative is part of ongoing Muslim efforts to engage other faith communities in North America, and to bring about an understanding of common goals and reconciliation in our communities," said Dr. Syeed Sayyid, national director of the ISNA Office for Interfaith and Community Alliances.

The initiative was sparked by concerns from both Christians and Muslims over misrepresentations of Islam and stereotypes of Muslims in North America. It was also encouraged by an unprecedented letter last year from 138 Muslim scholars, clerics and intellectuals around the world addressed to Christians.

The letter, entitled “A Common Word Between Use and You,” emphasized that Muslims and Christians make up over half the world’s population and therefore true peace cannot occur if conflict persists between the two religious communities. Muslim signers urged the two faiths to find “common ground” and to not be satisfied with just “polite ecumenical dialogue” between some religious leaders.

Christians responded to the Muslim letter by issuing their own letter signed by nearly 300 top Christian leaders, also urging for interfaith dialogue that would build relations and reshape the Christian and Islam communities. The Vatican responded by announcing it will hold a “historic” meeting with Muslim leaders this spring.

Pope Benedict XVI is scheduled to visit the United States for the first time as pontiff next month, when he will meet with non-Christian faith leaders. During his Apr. 15-20 visit, the pope will meet with Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu and Jain representatives.

The group of representatives includes Rabbi Gilbert S. Rosenthal of the National Council of Synagogues; Rabbi Joel Myers of the New York-based Rabbinical Assembly; Sayyid M. Syeed of the Islamic Society of North America and Imam Hassan Al-Qazwini of the Islamic Center of America, a large mosque in Dearborn, Mich., according to The Associated Press.

Bishop Richard Sklba, chairman of the bishops' Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, said the theme of the upcoming meeting is "Religions Working for Peace."

The National Muslim-Christian Initiative in North America ended by setting up five task groups to organize its work and prepare for future gatherings that will be held twice a year. The initiative will next meet in Chicago in September.

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  • Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:08 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    To wrhalver: Thanks for the response,...now I understand....Now,.I guess with the understanding of how the past 500 yrs have presented itself, obviously,....I guess look forward to the next 500 years on this subject,.....Thanks again.........

  • Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    da6383ma

    You wrote:
    To wrhalver,...respectfully, what "Muslim letter" are you talking about the "open invitation"?
    I would like to read it to see what is contained,....Apparently reading alot of European news online,...Alot of Europeans may not be sure what you`re talking about either,.......thanks for the minute.....

    Assuming that you are not familiar with the Muslim letter, it was drafted last Fall by very influencial Muslim clerics in the Middle East and requested a meeting with the Pope in order to calm tensions.

    The clerics believe that the peace of this world is at stake unless Christians and Muslims can arrive at an understanding, specifically about who God is.

    Protestant leaders in this country are divided as to how to be involved and what support there should be.

    Protestants would have to unite to some extent with Catholics which would be revolutionary considering the division that has been happening over the last 500 years.

    These talks could change the religious fabric of this country. The tensions we're used to seeing only in other countries would come here.

    Ask any European and they will tell you how familiar they are with such conflicts.

    World Peace according to religious faith, not military or economic strength. Americans are not familiar with this.

  • Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    To wrhalver,...respectfully, what "Muslim letter" are you talking about the "open invitation"?
    I would like to read it to see what is contained,....Apparently reading alot of European news online,...Alot of Europeans may not be sure what you`re talking about either,.......thanks for the minute.....

  • Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:35 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Amen, my brother wrhalver

    John 14:6-7
    6Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.

  • Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:29 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    We can quote from the Quran just as we can quote from the Christian Bible.
    But which is the true source?

    Christians should not be afraid to stand strong and be witnesses of the Scriptures from the true Holy Bible.

    But to be witnesses we have to be able to communicate, not just by words but also by deed. Lost souls are not won to the kingdom by shutting them out for their unbelief. They are won by showing and sharing God's Truth and God's Love.

    The Muslim letter is an open invitation to explore this further in each others faiths. This does not mean we will agree with each other, but it does mean that we can evaluate the potential for social conflict in America which would be the result of these differences in faith.

    This is happening throughout the rest fo the world. We've only been seeing it through the eyes of the television camera. Now this reality has come home to roost.

  • Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:58 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Al Quran Sura (5:33) The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned, this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

  • Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:26 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    jar1961 is right, read this Quran verse

    Al Quran Sura (2:191-193) And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution (of Muslims) is worse than slaughter (of non-believers)...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah

  • Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:45 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    I beg to differ, nothing in the article indicates that the purpose is to stand and be a witness for the Christian faith.... what I read is that we are to "reconcile" differences. Islam is a dark and violent religion.. and I would wager that most of the well intended Christian leaders have never read the Quran or have any idea what Islam is truly about.

    Christ did not come to bring peace, but to bring a sword. I am not saying that we are to hate we are to love as Christ love and stand for the Truth, not try to understand or reconcile our beliefs.....

    There is a path that seems right unto man but who's path leads unto death.

  • Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    John14-6

    "I agree with you completely that the divisions within Christianity need to come to an end, somehow, someway. We need to present a unified front and a unified message to the world (I think all Christians of the orthodox variety would subscribe to the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed and the Athanasian Creed - that would be a good starting point to work from)."

    I could not have said it better. Thank you.

  • Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:11 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    wow....Most of the world that is involved in the Global market has already started to use English as the language for trade. Which is once again since babel the retrogressive path to a one world language. And now this, with the Pope meeting with all the other religious leaders of the world...path towards a one world religion??? The UN, soon to be controlled by the EU due to the tremendous growth of power...path to a one world government? And the EU becoming so strong economically and getting rid of all local currencies within the EU...is that a path to a one world currency??? Don't wanna sound like one of the crazies out there but....seems like the current times are pretty similar to the events prior to end times as prophecied by the good book.

  • Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:19 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    wrhalver--

    I agree with you completely that the divisions within Christianity need to come to an end, somehow, someway. We need to present a unified front and a unified message to the world (I think all Christians of the orthodox variety would subscribe to the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed and the Athanasian Creed - that would be a good starting point to work from).

    Second, you are correct in that we should also take every opportunity to witness to Muslims wherever we can. However, the type of dialog being proposed may not be the best way to do that since it's really a meeting between "leaders" and the leaders of Islam are usually the ones that are the hardcore Wahabbists these days. Still, there are stories here and there of a Muslim extremist converting - Walid Shoebat is one that comes to mind (he was a Palestinian terrorist who hated Christians - a full blown, hard core jihadist - and he is now a Christian who speaks all over the world and especially the United States, about the extreme danger Islam presents to the West).

    The devil was quite clever when he created Islam. He set up a system of opposition to God's true faith that is an effective foil - it traps believers in a nearly cult like system that they cannot escape from as females, especially, are subject to honor killings if they leave the faith or in any way try to escape "the family" or Islam. Apostates from Islam are subject to a death penalty. It's the "Hotel Islam" - you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. So believers who might respond to the gospel might not in many, many cases because of the social system Islam has constructed to trap believers inside it, and keep them from free thinking or free expression. In addition, Islam is a death cult (Osama bin Laden said, "The difference between us and you is that you love life, we love death.") . It is truly a diabolical, malevolent religion that enslaves human souls in bondage to sin, evil and death. It is Satanic in origin and it is Satanic in operation. It brings out every evil impulse in human beings and gives it "Allah's" stamp of approval: violence toward others, oppression of others, hatred toward others, the worship of death, etc.

  • Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:28 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    John14-6

    I did read what you wrote. Here is my point.

    Any dialogue between Christians and any non-believing faith is an opportunity for Christians to be a witness for the One and True living God. We cannot say how many non-believers could convert to Christianity through this dialogue.

    God forbid that any Christian would wind up converting to Islam.

    Christians must stand strong as One. We must not continue to let needless division hurt our witness to the rest of the world.

    The Musilim faith is the greatest modern day challenge to Christians. This is the time for us to come together and be the witnesses God called us to be. This is what the secular world is hungry for.

  • Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:51 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Added information on the worldwide Muslim viewpoint

    Muslim (19:4294) When you meet your enemies who are polytheists (Christians), invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam, if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah help and fight them

    May our great Lord JESUS CHRIST give your Christian Leaders more wisdom and understanding. Shalom.

  • Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:56 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

    wrhalver--

    I'm not sure you really read what I said. You should read it again. Dialog is no good if it's unidirectional. With Muslims, dialog is invariably unidirectional. Therefore there isn't really anything good that will come of it. Muslims invariably push and push and expect everyone else to give and give. This usually leads to Christians and other non-Muslims being intimidated into concession after concession, while Muslims are expected to give up nothing nor compromise any bit of their faith whatsoever. If you don't understand the Koran, then you can't understand why I'm saying what I'm saying. Islam is a supremacist system - as much a political ideology as it is a faith - they're inseparable. Wherever Islam comes into contact with any other political or religious system, it invariably lashes out in a sustained campaign of violence until it attains dominance.

    Islam cannot be "negotiated" with in any Western understanding of the term. There's no negotiation or "meeting of the minds" or dialog or peace to be had with Islam, there is only a temporary "truce". Once Islam attains superiority in demographics, they invariably begin a sustained campaign of terror and intimidation until they subdue the opposing populace, or until they have exterminated them. Look at what is going on in Iraq and Egypt and Malaysia and Pakistan, right now, with Christians, Buddhists and Hindus. This is what's to come for America, someday not too far off, I fear. Islam must be resisted, not negotiated with. It is as much a military and political struggle as it is a struggle between faiths.

  • Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:36 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    John14-6
    This dialogue is very important.

    Peace in America has long been defined by the strength of our military and economy, not faith.
    This country is not familiar with social conflict resulting from opposing faiths.

    And now Christians are being challenged to stand up and be witnesses. But first we must stand in unity as one Body and stop the division that holds us back from being the true witnesses in the world as Christ commissioned us to be.

  • JC »
    Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:39 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their hearts and have put right before their faces the stumbling block of their iniquity. Should I be consulted by them at all? (Ezekiel 14:3)

  • Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:44 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 1

    The oft-repeated chestnut that we are all "children of Abraham" is a canard. Muslims claim descent from Ishmael, who the Bible says will be a "wild donkey of a man" and that his hand will be against his brothers and theirs against him. Muslims deny the truth of the Bible, they deny the covenant God made with Abraham and the covenant with Isaac. They distort and twist Biblical truth starting with the Old Testament and all the way through the New Testament.

    There is no common denominator with Abraham, except the promise of hostility between Isaac's descendants and Ishmael's descendants. So this "Coexist" (you know those silly bumper stickers) movement, with Bono and his headband, and all this appeal to being "children of Abraham" is just foolish nonsense. There is absolutely no common denominator between the Judeo-Christian tradition and Islam. None. Zero. The only common denominator is the promise of aggression on the part of Ishamel's descendants. Which, in fact, we see everywhere Islam reigns supreme in the world today. Islam is a distorted faith, with inherently violent and supremacist teachings, created by a false prophet named Mohammed at the instigation of the devil (appearing as an "angel of light" - the so-called "Archangel Gabriel" that appeared in the cave and choked Mohammed.)

    This attempt at dialog is pointless so long as it is a one way conversation with Muslims dictating and Christians expected to listen. And it is always a one way conversation where Islam is concerned. So long as it remains a one way conversation, nothing good will come of it.

  • Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:42 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    pburwell,

    salvation is for all, not just the jews.

  • Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:56 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 13

    Christianity and Islam are both Abrahamic religions. Perhaps we should start with the common denominator and move forward.
    Perhaps rather than teaching Bible courses in public schools (like in Odessa Texas) a course on Islam and the Koran should be taught. At least it would be a purely educational opportunity which is what should be taking place in our public schools

  • Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:33 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    As long as the descendants of Ishmael lie about their heritage in saying they are of the son of promise they will never have peace with the son of Isaac. Salvation is of the Jews.

  • Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:15 am Agree: 7   Disagree: 0

    The two different groups (Muslim and Christian) shall never agree. The two differ in what their standard for living are (both use two very different books to study from, which are also interpreted differently); and subsequently, the two groups vastly differ in their spiritual walk or way of living (in doctrine and in practice).

    As a Christian, by God's grace, I believe that the Word of God, the Holy Bible, is the standard for Truth and faith in my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and in living this earthly life unto God. The following are just some Bible verses that may be helpful to understand more what Christians believe.


    (Amos 3:3, Holy Bible/King James Version)
    "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

    (John 14:6, Holy Bible/KJV)
    "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    (1 Corinthians 8:5-6, Holy Bible/KJV)
    "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."

    (1 Corinthians 3:10-11, Holy Bible/KJV)
    “According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

    (Romans 1:16-17, Holy Bible/KJV)
    “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”

    (1 Timothy 2:1-5, Holy Bible/KJV)
    “1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
    2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
    3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
    4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
    5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

    (to be continued)

  • Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:18 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    To the individual who flagged every post:

    You cannot flag every single post on every article indiscriminately. This is not a dictatorship. ChristianPost has been notified, and I suggest that every other person frustrated by this action contact ChristianPost as well.

  • Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    what good will this do

  • Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Catholics and Protestants might actually be friends again. Peace between denominations may actually be taught from the pulpit.

    If Christians are being called to have tolerance for faiths that do not believe in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, then it is hypocritical for Christians to be against faiths which do.

  • Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:55 pm Agree: 11   Disagree: 0

    I really don't see what the point of this "initiative" is. Muslim-Christian dialog is almost always one-sided and unidirectional - Muslims talk and expect Christians to listen and comply. Period. There is no interest whatsoever from Muslims in listening to anything Christians have to say, because their so-called holy book tells them not to befriend Christians and to assert domination and control over them, subdue them, until Islam is supreme. Not much room for any dialog there, now, is there?

    These Christian groups are motivated by noble ideals, but ultimately they are naive and nothing good will come of this. Islam is diametrically opposed to Christianity on every level: doctrine, ideology, theology, eschatology, soteriology, etc.

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