In the discussion, the Kern and Jones also discussed biblical views on homosexuality.
Kern said she believed homosexuality was part of man's sinful nature.
"A person cannot be saved until they realize they're lost," she stated. "We must repent of our sin."
"Homosexuals are trying to say that our sin is not sin because you don't want to repent of sin. And that's what God wants."
Jones said that if someone who was confused about his sexuality approached him for advice, he would tell that person that being gay is not a sin.
Hargis challenged Jones on how he would interpret the numerous verses in the Bible- including Leviticus, Romans, and 1 Timothy that condemn homosexuality.
The Oklahoma City minister downplayed the scripture which referenced homosexuality, countering that Leviticus also contain passages that forbid wearing two cloths woven from two different seeds.
Kern, however, pointed out that there is a difference between moral law, civil law and ceremonial law.
While ceremonial and civil laws were intended for God's chosen people, she explained, "God's moral law applies to everyone."
When asked how she would react if her son was gay, Kern said she would love him.
She also made clear that she doesn't hate Jones, Democrats who further the homosexual agenda or gays, noting that she even once intervened on behalf of the lesbian assistant principal at Northwest Classen when administrators wanted to remove her.
The controversy surrounding Kern's comments have added to ongoing debate within the Christian community over the best approach in ministering to those who identify themselves as gay or lesbian.
Some Christians support Kern for her candid views while others say her comments may impede dialogue between Christians and the gay community.
Peter LaBarbera of the faith-based Americans for Truth About Homosexuality recently defended Kern, saying, Rep. Kern is addressing a grave societal crisis caused by the ongoing, aggressive campaign to market destructive homosexual and gender-confused behavior as normal and good especially to children."
He added that Oklahoma's overwhelming 75.6 percent vote in 2004 to define marriage as between a man and a woman confirmed that Oklahomans are behind Kern.
Kerns comments also come at a time when the majority of today's young generation have a negative perception of Christianity with 91 percent of young non-Christians and 80 percent of young churchgoers say present-day Christianity is "anti-homosexual," according to a Sept. 2007 survey by The Barna Group.
Meanwhile, gay and lesbian lifestyles placed fourth in a survey on the most pressing issues for evangelical Christians today after abortion, personal indebtedness, the content of television and movies and homosexual activists, a more recent Barna survey reported in January.
The Thomas More Law Center of Ann Arbor, Mich., agreed last Wednesday to represent Kern in any legal cases arising from the controversy.








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