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Bill Allowing Teachers to Question Evolution Advances

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Fri, Mar. 28 2008 06:06 PM ET
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The Florida Senate's pre-K-through-12 education committee approved a bill Wednesday that protects teachers who include theories questioning evolution in their coverage of the much-debated topic.

Legislators voted 4-1 to advance the "Academic Freedom Act," or SB2692, which provides "public school teachers with a right to present scientific information relevant to the full range of views" on evolution.

Sen. Ronda Storms (R-Valrico) and state Rep. D. Alan Hays (R-Umatilla) introduced the measure in response to new science standards adopted last month by the Florida Board of Education that, for the first time, required schools to use the term "evolution" instead of such terms "as changes over time" for the scientific theory. The new standards also mandate that evolution be taught in more detail.

"Evolution will still be taught as a matter of law. This bill does not undo the current standard," said Storms, a former teacher, according to The Tampa Tribune.

The legislation protects teachers and students from discrimination or penalty based on their position on Darwin's theory of evolution, according to the bill's text.

The measure also states that it does not "promote any religious position."

The 37 scientists and educators who helped develop draft science standards for the state board have objected to the "Academic Freedom" measure.

They contend the bill is "a subterfuge for injecting the religious beliefs held by some into the science classroom," the group said in a statement, according to the Sun Sentinel.

In arguments presented before the committee Wednesday, a representative of American Civil Liberties Union said the measure would open to door to teaching religious beliefs.

Proponents of the bill, however, maintain that the proposal would not permit teachings of alternative theories to evolution - specifically intelligent design or creationism – but apply to scientific theories critical of evolution.

According to Storms, a teacher might say: "Here's the theory of evolution and here are the flaws and here are the breaks. Here are the people with legitimate questions. Here's what the theories are," the Palm Beach Post reported.

The legislation has garnered the support of Florida Family Policy Council, the intelligent design think-tank Discovery Institute and actor Ben Stein, who hosts the upcoming documentary, "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," about scientists and educators who faced persecution and disciplining for questioning evolution.

"This bill is not about teaching intelligent design. It's about freedom of speech," Stein told reporters at a press conference earlier this month, before screening his film before Florida legislators in Tallahassee.

"It's interesting for me to note that the only folks who brought up religion today have been those in opposition," said Storms, according to The Tampa Tribune.

Sen. Ted Deutch (D-Boca Raton), who voted against the measure Wednesday, brought up a point made in a staff analysis of the bill, which said that there have been no complaints of teachers or students who faced the discrimination described in the bill.

Storms said victims of such discrimination were afraid to come forward, the St. Petersburg Times reported.

The Senate version of the bill must now be approved by the Senate judiciary committee before it can be scheduled for the Senate floor.

The House bill, HB1483, hasn't been scheduled for a hearing.

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agentorangex
  • Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:55 pm
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seedplanter,

What I am saying is aside from being a god or not, any person that was motivating others to repeal against the Roman Empire would no doubt cause issues, and it's in the romans best interest to nip in the butt sooner rather than later, this is why jesus was hardly the only person crucified or killed for motivating others to uprise against the empire.
seedplanter
  • Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:58 pm
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"I am not saying he as an individual was a threat, but his new message, new way of thinking was radical and inspired new followers which in turn is a direct threat to the control the Roman Empire had. The last thing you want, as a leader of a a huge empire, is a some wild eyes rebel speaking out and getting people rilled and fired up at their unjust treatment and this is partially what jesus inspired."


Agent, do you have any historical evidence here or is this just the way you think the events may have transpired since they did in fact execute him and since he was after all known as the Messiah?

Pilate did confront Jesus about his claims of royalty in which he responded that his kingdom was not of this world. I don't believe that there really was any feeling of being threatened on the part of the Romans. His teachings were really not that revolutionary prior to his death and resurrection and at that it was in the aspect of his assumed authority, his unabashed revising of the Sanhedrin’s interpretations of the Torah, his miracles (which were attested to in his opposition’s writings – The Babylonian Talmud) and most importantly his direct claims of deity, which would have seemed quite ambiguous to the Romans (i.e. riding into Jerusalem on a donkey, claiming the title I AM THAT I AM, etc.). It wasn’t really until nutty Nero’s reign that Christianity as a religion and as representing certain ideas that were somehow suspicious to Nero that they became an apparent threat resulting in severe persecution. However, up until his resurrection I just don’t see Jesus as threat at all to the Roman Rulers. According to the Bible the concern was to satisfy the Jewish Sanhedrin who passed him on to Pilate as an instigator. Pilate didn’t seem to find any fault in him and apparently did not even want to handle the trial, until after enormous pressure was put on him. This would also explain why Roman Catholics were anti-Semitic for many years, some how blaming Christ’s death on them, when in reality the Bible lays the blame upon us all in the sense that it was all of our sins that he bore.
prodriver
  • Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:23 pm
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agentx when do you finally go and get your copy of "a case for a creator" written by Lee Strobel. This book is written for you. Go to amazon or to your trusted dealer and see what well knwon scientists say about evolution.
Man this theory has no chance to be taken seriously.

Now GO and get it.
star2
  • Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:31 pm
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agentorange

I don't care what any one has to say about the film. I would have to view it myself and draw my own conclusions. I might view it as long as I don't have to pay to see it. I don't know. It might serve my future purposes if I did see the film. I don't know yet what I will do.
agentorangex
  • Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:22 pm
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star2,

Fox news aside, would you be more impressed if I gave the entire list of negative reviews by all critiques for 'Expelled' thus far? I am sure only a short hours of Google searching will return such results, I know LA Times and others were critical of it. I am not saying Fox news is the end all be all of reporting (it's not even close) but rather that even they, Fox News, a conservative leaning news channel, with a conservative leaning audience aer even harsh on such a film that one would think would appeal to their viewers.
star2
  • Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:13 pm
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agentorange

Re:and not even Fox News folks like 'expelled', ouch. -

Just because Roger Friedman of Fox News disliked the film doesn't mean anything. fox News hires all kinds of people of different beliefs. They hire liberals, conservatives, democrats, republicians, and independents. They hire Catholics, Protestants, other religious persuations, and no belief. They hire those who hold to evolution and those who don't. Roger Friedman speaks for himself not Fox News. Friedman could very well be of your persuation (evolutionist), and would view the film based on that bias. Maybe not. Neither one of us knows. I personally won't see the film because I disagree with ID. As you know quite well I am a YEC. I am not interested in any other view.
agentorangex
  • Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:43 am
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Get this, it turns out the folks that produced Expelled committed a violation of copy right infringement! Way to go - http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/04/will-the-public.html#comments-open

First Stein offers $$ for people (particularly schools to go see his film), then they were caught in expelling (how ironic) PZ Myers (a person who was interviewed in the film mind you) from open online registration iinvitation pre-screening at the Mall of America and now they're caught in illegally using copy righted material, ouch.

and not even Fox News folks like 'expelled', ouch. - http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/04/flunked-not-exp-1.html
prodriver
  • Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:04 am
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He preached in his words, under his own authority.
This is the radical thing about it. This is what those men called blasphemy, this is what destroid theier authority based on tradition.

The Jewish rules allways related to some other rulers, just like in Catholic church today.
Putting earthly tradition above God himself.
Building up rules that people can not obey, instead of preaching freedom thrugh the Spirit.

His Cross made the difference, no rules needed to obey to achieve a cleared up relationship with God himself. Just to love God and believe in Him and throu him being filled up with the Holy Spirit to live a life according to the will of God.

Too "simple" to believe...even today.
prodriver
  • Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:55 am
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Jesus did not revolute against the Roman Empire.
He said clearly to give Caesar what belongs to him. He called out to obey the leaders of the Land and to pray for them. This is even what his judge statet when he was to be centenced: this man is not guilty.

All he did was teaching against the jewish Rulers who did everything but obeying God and the Bible. They came up with theier own teachings but obeying theier own rules.
They cared about themselves, not about God.
If they did, they would have clearly seen that the predictions of the old testament are fullfilled by Jesus Christ and this is whats going on today in Jewish Religion.
They do not see the truth right before theier eyes.

So the threat of his teachings was for them and for the devil, not for any political system.

He was teachning love above all. He explanied that love is the essence of the 10 commandments. And he was teaching him being the son of God to free from rules and to life a new life filled up with the Holy Spirit.
agentorangex
  • Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:33 am
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star2, I agree. jesus as a radical teacher (compared with the jews) was not only a threat to the jewish control structure, but also to the control of the current Roman Empire. I am not saying he as an individual was a threat, but his new message, new way of thinking was radical and inspired new followers which in turn is a direct threat to the control the Roman Empire had. The last thing you want, as a leader of a a huge empire, is a some wild eyes rebel speaking out and getting people rilled and fired up at their unjust treatment and this is partially what jesus inspired. star, when you consider if and why they wanted to put jesus to death, at least consider the extra biblical sources alongside luke and NT.
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