Study: Christian Divorce Rate Identical to National Average
ByChristian Post Reporter
Fri, Apr. 04 2008 03:11 PM ET
After months of revived debate over divorce and its increasing acceptance among Americans, a new study affirmed born again Christians are just as likely as the average American couple to divorce.
The Barna Group found in its latest study that born again Christians who are not evangelical were indistinguishable from the national average on the matter of divorce with 33 percent having married and divorced at least once. Among all born again Christians, which includes evangelicals, the divorce figure is 32 percent, which is statistically identical to the 33 percent figure among non-born again adults, the research group noted.
"There no longer seems to be much of a stigma attached to divorce; it is now seen as an unavoidable rite of passage," George Barna, who directed the study, stated in the study, which was released Monday.
Results of the study come less than a year after a high-profile Christian couple – Randy and Paula White – announced their decision to split, reigniting debates over divorce trends in the Christian community and whether Scripture allows divorce.
While a higher proportion of born again Christians marry (84 percent) compared to the national average (78 percent), recent trends indicate that Americans are growing more comfortable with divorce.
"Interviews with young adults suggest that they want their initial marriage to last, but are not particularly optimistic about that possibility," Barna noted. "There is also evidence that many young people are moving toward embracing the idea of serial marriage, in which a person gets married two or three times, seeking a different partner for each phase of their adult life."
Still, the divorce rate among evangelical Christians – who are defined as meeting the born again criteria plus other conditions – was lower (26 percent) than the national average. Meanwhile, those associated with a non-Christian faith were more likely to divorce (38 percent), the study showed.
Other population segments least likely to have been divorced include Catholics (28 percent), Asians (20 percent), adults who graduated from college and whose annual household income is $75,000 or more (22 percent), and adults who deem themselves to be conservative on social and political matters (28 percent).
Divorce was at a higher rate among Baby Boomers (38 percent), African Americans (36 percent), adults who did not attend college and with lower household income (39 percent), and people who consider themselves to be liberal on social and political matters (37 percent).
Thirty percent of atheists and agnostics had been married and subsequently divorced, but The Barna Group pointed out that they have lower rates of marriage (65 percent) and a higher likelihood of cohabitation.
The study is based on interviews with a random sample of 5,017 adults, age 18 and older, from January 2007 through January 2008.
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myTmuus- Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:22 pm
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<<This is not a matter of personal interpretation.>>
Yes it is. All scripture taken out of context of the time frame, culture and persons to whom it was written has been PERSONALLY INTERPRETED. Paul was speaking to his generation of believers in Churches he thought Jesus was to return in HIS lifetime. He wasn't speaking of YEARS in the future. You have continually attempted with misusing scriptures to prooftext as proof of your point Keruso, but is what makes it a matter of personal interpretation.
<<It is clearly and explicitly stated, multiple ways, that unrepentant homosexuals, adulterers, and fornicators will have no part in the Kingdom of God.>>
Again you are presenting your interpretation of texts removed from their original context to attempt to prove your point.
Yes it is. All scripture taken out of context of the time frame, culture and persons to whom it was written has been PERSONALLY INTERPRETED. Paul was speaking to his generation of believers in Churches he thought Jesus was to return in HIS lifetime. He wasn't speaking of YEARS in the future. You have continually attempted with misusing scriptures to prooftext as proof of your point Keruso, but is what makes it a matter of personal interpretation.
<<It is clearly and explicitly stated, multiple ways, that unrepentant homosexuals, adulterers, and fornicators will have no part in the Kingdom of God.>>
Again you are presenting your interpretation of texts removed from their original context to attempt to prove your point.
myTmuus- Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:13 pm
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<<God's Word is quite clear that gay sex is an abomination to God and all those who practice it will perish. No where in scripture will you find God saying otherwise. Those who think He has have not rightly divided the Word of Truth.>>
And that has WHAT to do with the subject of HETEROSEXUALS who divorce? And it has what to do with the topic of Christians who divorce at an equal rate to nonChristians who ignore the bible passages which apply to divorce and remarriage? Throwing off red herrings because you can't articulate a REAL argument?
<<God will bring to nought any nation who embraces homosexuality.>>
What nations if any has GOD brought to "nought?" Historically, Christianity and namely the tyrannical practices under the guise of "spreading" the faith that has leveled nations; but it isn't an act of God, it is an act of willful Christian disobedience whereby Christians refuse God's command to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
And that has WHAT to do with the subject of HETEROSEXUALS who divorce? And it has what to do with the topic of Christians who divorce at an equal rate to nonChristians who ignore the bible passages which apply to divorce and remarriage? Throwing off red herrings because you can't articulate a REAL argument?
<<God will bring to nought any nation who embraces homosexuality.>>
What nations if any has GOD brought to "nought?" Historically, Christianity and namely the tyrannical practices under the guise of "spreading" the faith that has leveled nations; but it isn't an act of God, it is an act of willful Christian disobedience whereby Christians refuse God's command to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
star2- Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:28 am
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feetxxxl, myTmuus
Lev 18:22 - "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination."
Lev 20:13 - "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have commiteed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.:
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idelness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminnate, nor abuser of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor theives, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Jude 7 - "Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
God's Word is quite clear that gay sex is an abomination to God and all those who practice it will perish. No where in scripture will you find God saying otherwise. Those who think He has have not rightly divided the Word of Truth.
God will bring to nought any nation who embraces homosexuality.
Lev 18:22 - "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination."
Lev 20:13 - "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have commiteed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.:
Ezekiel 16:49-50
49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idelness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminnate, nor abuser of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor theives, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Jude 7 - "Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
God's Word is quite clear that gay sex is an abomination to God and all those who practice it will perish. No where in scripture will you find God saying otherwise. Those who think He has have not rightly divided the Word of Truth.
God will bring to nought any nation who embraces homosexuality.
Keruso- Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:46 pm
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Quote: where does it say we are to be led by our own interpretations? in gal5, paul said the things of the sin nature are obvious. meaning that by their own essence there being against the spirit t of christ was self explanatory. how is it self explanatory that homosexuality is against christ.
He said: Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: [>>]sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;...[<<] I warn you, [>>]as I did before[<<], that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Again, he laid them out plainly. And what did he say before (having also written the Corinthians and Romans):
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: [>>]Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders... will inherit the kingdom of God[<<].
Romans 1:25-27 [>>]They exchanged the truth of God for a lie[<<], and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen. [>>]Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.[<<] In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, [>>]and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion[<<].
This is not a matter of personal interpretation. It is clearly and explicitly stated, multiple ways, that unrepentant homosexuals, adulterers, and fornicators will have no part in the Kingdom of God.
Matthew 12:24-26 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons." Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "[>>]Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand[<<]. If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?
Malachi 3:6 "I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed."
John 8:42-44 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. [>>]Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.[<<]
Quote: where does it say we are to be led by our own interpretations? in gal5, paul said the things of the sin nature are obvious. meaning that by their own essence there being against the spirit t of christ was self explanatory. how is it self explanatory that homosexuality is against christ.
He said: Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: [>>]sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;...[<<] I warn you, [>>]as I did before[<<], that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Again, he laid them out plainly. And what did he say before (having also written the Corinthians and Romans):
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: [>>]Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders... will inherit the kingdom of God[<<].
Romans 1:25-27 [>>]They exchanged the truth of God for a lie[<<], and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen. [>>]Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.[<<] In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, [>>]and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion[<<].
This is not a matter of personal interpretation. It is clearly and explicitly stated, multiple ways, that unrepentant homosexuals, adulterers, and fornicators will have no part in the Kingdom of God.
Matthew 12:24-26 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons." Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "[>>]Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand[<<]. If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?
Malachi 3:6 "I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed."
John 8:42-44 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. [>>]Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.[<<]
Keruso- Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:42 pm
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Quote: >where in scripture are we given license to condemn anyone without personal witness. does not the commandments of the old covenant say beware of giving false witness? how does anyone know why anyone divorces? how does anyone know on what basis they came together to be married in the first place?
Romans 1:25-27 [>>]They exchanged the truth of God for a lie[<<], and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen. [>>]Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.[<<] In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, [>>]and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion[<<].
Romans 9:1-3 I speak the truth in Christ - I am not lying, my conscience confirms it in the Holy Spirit - I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For... the sake of my brothers,...
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Quote: what is ypur understanding of the last sentence of matt 19:11
Me: That for some men, the single life is preferred, for others marriage is preferred. It is 'this saying' to which Jesus refers.
Matthew 19:8-12 He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery."
The disciples said to him, "If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry." (11) But he said to them, "Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given. (12) For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it."
Quote: >where in scripture are we given license to condemn anyone without personal witness. does not the commandments of the old covenant say beware of giving false witness? how does anyone know why anyone divorces? how does anyone know on what basis they came together to be married in the first place?
Romans 1:25-27 [>>]They exchanged the truth of God for a lie[<<], and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised. Amen. [>>]Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.[<<] In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, [>>]and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion[<<].
Romans 9:1-3 I speak the truth in Christ - I am not lying, my conscience confirms it in the Holy Spirit - I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. For... the sake of my brothers,...
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Quote: what is ypur understanding of the last sentence of matt 19:11
Me: That for some men, the single life is preferred, for others marriage is preferred. It is 'this saying' to which Jesus refers.
Matthew 19:8-12 He said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery."
The disciples said to him, "If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry." (11) But he said to them, "Not everyone can receive this saying, but only those to whom it is given. (12) For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it."
Keruso- Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:39 pm
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Quote: >they are saying......if there is a possibility of divorce, is it better not to marry? that knowing the nature of human beings is it better that they dont even attempt to marry, rather than give them over to the possibility of being sinners.
And your point? (It sounds very much like you’re implying marriage is a sin.) Many times the Apostle advised people to remain unmarried so as not to be distracted by the family needs (that includes sex) from God, however the Bible also says:
1 Corinthians 7:25-28 Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy. Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for you to remain as you are. Are you married? Do not seek a divorce. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife. [>>]But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this[<<].
1 Corinthians 7:8-9 ...It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But...it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Matthew 19:5-6 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore [>>]what GOD has joined together[<<], let man not separate."
Quote: >who has this word been given to. and how is it given. it cant be a law, because it isnt given to everyone. whatever is given, is given thru the spirit. so that no one can say the holy spirit gave him this or that. since divorce was allowed in the old covenant. it is new in the new covenant. in the new covenant did christ give us new laws to be led by... .that would mean that he gave us new laws "to die to" that we are no longer" led by" because we are now led by the spirit?
Romans 6:1 What shall we say, then? [>>]Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means![<<]...
Galatians 5:13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. [>>]But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature[<<]...
Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;... I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Matthew 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished
Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
1 Peter 3:11 He must turn from evil and do good; he must seek peace and pursue it.
3 John 1:11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
Quote: >they are saying......if there is a possibility of divorce, is it better not to marry? that knowing the nature of human beings is it better that they dont even attempt to marry, rather than give them over to the possibility of being sinners.
And your point? (It sounds very much like you’re implying marriage is a sin.) Many times the Apostle advised people to remain unmarried so as not to be distracted by the family needs (that includes sex) from God, however the Bible also says:
1 Corinthians 7:25-28 Now about virgins: I have no command from the Lord, but I give a judgment as one who by the Lord's mercy is trustworthy. Because of the present crisis, I think that it is good for you to remain as you are. Are you married? Do not seek a divorce. Are you unmarried? Do not look for a wife. [>>]But if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. But those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this[<<].
1 Corinthians 7:8-9 ...It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But...it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Matthew 19:5-6 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore [>>]what GOD has joined together[<<], let man not separate."
Quote: >who has this word been given to. and how is it given. it cant be a law, because it isnt given to everyone. whatever is given, is given thru the spirit. so that no one can say the holy spirit gave him this or that. since divorce was allowed in the old covenant. it is new in the new covenant. in the new covenant did christ give us new laws to be led by... .that would mean that he gave us new laws "to die to" that we are no longer" led by" because we are now led by the spirit?
Romans 6:1 What shall we say, then? [>>]Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means![<<]...
Galatians 5:13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. [>>]But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature[<<]...
Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;... I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Matthew 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished
Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
1 Peter 3:11 He must turn from evil and do good; he must seek peace and pursue it.
3 John 1:11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
Keruso- Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:36 pm
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You also seem to forgotten the most important part of forgiveness - repentance!
Matthew 3:7-8 ...Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? [>>]Produce fruit in keeping with repentance[<<].
Revelation 2:5 Remember the height from which you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. [>>]If you do not repent[<<], I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
Mark 1:4 And so John came, baptizing in the desert region and preaching a baptism of [>>]repentance FOR the forgiveness[<<] of sins.
Luke 3:3 He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of [>>]repentance FOR the forgiveness[<<] of sins.
Acts 13:24 Before the coming of Jesus, John preached [>>]repentance[<<]...
>what he is offering is a directive of spirit, that is tempered by the three commandments.........loving god, loving ones neighbor as oneself, and loving one another as christ loved us. it thru these, that the word is given and is to be lived.
And how did Christ love us? He died a horrible, torturous death so that, in repentance and humility, we might be washed clean of the stain of our sins.
John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
And how are we to love God:
Luke 10:27 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind
Joshua 22:5 But be very careful to keep the commandment and the law that Moses the servant of the LORD gave you: to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, to obey his commands, to hold fast to him and to serve him with all your heart and all your soul."
How do we ‘love thy neighbor as yourself’? By following the laws of Moses, for ‘love thy neighbor as yourself’ is the summation of all laws. Breaking any part of the law is hurting your neighbor.
Galatians 5:14 THE ENTIRE LAW IS SUMMED UP in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they who love your law, and nothing can make them stumble.
You also seem to forgotten the most important part of forgiveness - repentance!
Matthew 3:7-8 ...Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? [>>]Produce fruit in keeping with repentance[<<].
Revelation 2:5 Remember the height from which you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. [>>]If you do not repent[<<], I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.
Mark 1:4 And so John came, baptizing in the desert region and preaching a baptism of [>>]repentance FOR the forgiveness[<<] of sins.
Luke 3:3 He went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of [>>]repentance FOR the forgiveness[<<] of sins.
Acts 13:24 Before the coming of Jesus, John preached [>>]repentance[<<]...
>what he is offering is a directive of spirit, that is tempered by the three commandments.........loving god, loving ones neighbor as oneself, and loving one another as christ loved us. it thru these, that the word is given and is to be lived.
And how did Christ love us? He died a horrible, torturous death so that, in repentance and humility, we might be washed clean of the stain of our sins.
John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
And how are we to love God:
Luke 10:27 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind
Joshua 22:5 But be very careful to keep the commandment and the law that Moses the servant of the LORD gave you: to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, to obey his commands, to hold fast to him and to serve him with all your heart and all your soul."
How do we ‘love thy neighbor as yourself’? By following the laws of Moses, for ‘love thy neighbor as yourself’ is the summation of all laws. Breaking any part of the law is hurting your neighbor.
Galatians 5:14 THE ENTIRE LAW IS SUMMED UP in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.
Psalm 119:165 Great peace have they who love your law, and nothing can make them stumble.
myTmuus- Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:30 pm
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<<I gave him a chance to either admit he was or deny it. He refused to answer me and he has refused to answer others who have asked. >>
I see. It seems to be the practice when one can't articulate a cogent argument on the actual subject The Christian Post has written, one attacks the person's character.
I see. It seems to be the practice when one can't articulate a cogent argument on the actual subject The Christian Post has written, one attacks the person's character.
myTmuus- Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:58 pm
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<<His distorted, twisted, and misapplication of scriptures to get around the obvious truth that gay sex is wrong will never work.>>
Oh really? So far feetxxxl is on top of his game. He knows his way around the Bible back and forth and has demonstrated stronger debate skills and greater logic, I'd say what he's doing is working.
BTW No one has been capable of "besting" him.
<<myTmuus: Are you gay? Are you a Christian? >>
And how is that red herring* argument essential to this discussion? The topic is not me, my faith or my sexual orientation, since you have obviously forgotten that, I feel the need to remind you that the topic is Christian Divorce rates...
*A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic.
<<His distorted, twisted, and misapplication of scriptures to get around the obvious truth that gay sex is wrong will never work.>>
Oh really? So far feetxxxl is on top of his game. He knows his way around the Bible back and forth and has demonstrated stronger debate skills and greater logic, I'd say what he's doing is working.
BTW No one has been capable of "besting" him.
<<myTmuus: Are you gay? Are you a Christian? >>
And how is that red herring* argument essential to this discussion? The topic is not me, my faith or my sexual orientation, since you have obviously forgotten that, I feel the need to remind you that the topic is Christian Divorce rates...
*A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic.
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When people approach a religious text, or any large book from which they intend to derive ethical teachings, nearly without exception the person will pick up the book and pay very particular attention to all the morals they already agreed with. A homophobe will pick up the Christian Bible and realise that Homosexuality is an evil sin. A misogynist will pick it up and realise that after all this time he's right: Women are inferior, and he can quote the Bible to prove it. People get, from religious texts, what they put into them. It has been that way, historically, since religion has been practiced on this planet.