Rickrolling and Religionrolling

Knight »

Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:36 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

If one truly believes then they WILL repent. This is not an option nor is it a "work." It is the first fruit of true regeneration. You cannot make yourself be sorry for your sins and turn from them. Only the Spirit of God changing the heart of stone into a heart of flesh can accomplish this.

This business of treating repentance as something that we do to be saved is simply hogwash. The call to repentance is an essential part of any gospel message because this is how you will know who the truly regenerate believers are.

Quecat »

Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:13 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

It's the classic half-truth that "all you have to do is believe".

Jam 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

Devils believe. Will they be saved?
NOT.

KoneWone2 »

Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:00 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

"The ‘good news’ part is the fact that God loves us too much to live without us for eternity."

Huh?

Where does it say "that God loves us too much to live without us for eternity" in the Bible? The only other person I have seen/heard teach that sort of deceptive falsehood is Rick Warren.

What about all the multitudes in the lake of fire? God continues to live gloriously for all of eternity without those who are in constant torment in the lake of fire. Does God love them too much to live without them? Does God love them too much that He eventually loves them out of hell so as He can live with them?

I think you need to get the true biblical gospel right, don't you?

Quecat »

Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:45 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

Salvation without repentance?

Without repentance from sin, wicked men cannot have fellowship with a holy God. We are dead in our trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1) and until we forsake them through repentance, we cannot be made alive in Christ.

The Scriptures speak of "repentance unto life" (Acts 11:18). We turn from sin to the Savior. This is why Paul preached "repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ" (Acts 20:21). The first public word Jesus preached was "repent" (Matthew 4:17). John the Baptist began his ministry the same way (Matthew 3:2). Jesus told His hearers that without repentance, they would perish (Luke 13:3).

If belief is all that is necessary for salvation, then the logical conclusion is that one need never repent. However, the Bible tells us that a false convert "believes" and yet is not saved (Luke 8:13); he remains a "worker of iniquity." Look at the warning of Scripture: "If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth." (1 John 1:6). The Scriptures also say, "He that covers his sins shall not prosper, but whoso confesses and forsakes them [repentance] shall have mercy" (Proverbs 28:13). Jesus said that there was joy in heaven over one sinner who "repents" (Luke 15:10). If there is no repentance, there is no joy because there is no salvation.

When Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost, he commanded his hearers to repent "for the remission of sins" (Acts 2:38). Without repentance, there is no remission of sins; we are still under His wrath. Peter further said, "Repent . . . and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out" (Acts 3:19). We cannot be "converted" unless we repent. God Himself "commands all men everywhere [leaving no exceptions] to repent" (Acts 17:30). Peter said a similar thing at Pentecost: "Repent, and be baptized every one of you" (Acts 2:38).

If repentance wasn’t necessary for salvation, why then did Jesus command that repentance be preached to all nations (Luke 24:47)?

Quecat »

Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:09 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

2 Cor 7:10 "Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death."

Acts 20:20-21 "... I kept back nothing that was helpful, but proclaimed it to you, and taught you
publicly and from house to house, testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."

Acts 3:19 "Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,"