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Survey: Most Britons Say Religion is Sexist, Discriminates Against Gays

By Joshua Goldberg|Christian Post Reporter

A majority of people surveyed in Britain believe religion is sexist and discriminates against homosexuals, according to a recent poll.

Six out of 10 people believe that all religion is fundamentally sexist and 56 percent say all religions fundamentally discriminate on grounds of sexual orientation.

The poll, which was commissioned by the Movement for Reform Judaism, has driven the liberal religious denomination – known for its support for homosexuality – to highlight the importance of its new gender-neutral prayer book.

The Reform movement is using gender-neutral language, for the first time, to refer to God. Its new prayer book will also give female figures in the Bible equal prominence to males. Nearly three quarters of Christians think that God is male and about six out of 10 Jewish people agree. Only four out of 10 Jewish people say it is right that God should be referred to solely as “He.”

The results were based on a survey of over 1,000 adults and have come out just a week after the release of the International Lesbian and Gay Association’s 2008 report on “homophobia.”

According to the report, homosexuality is a punishable offense in over 86 countries.

"Whether exported by colonial empires or the result of legislations culturally shaped by religious beliefs, if not deriving directly from a conservative interpretation of religious texts, homophobic laws are the fruit of a certain time and context in history," said Rosanna Flamer-Caldera, co-secretary general of ILGA.

"Although many of the countries listed in the report do not systematically implement those laws, their mere existence reinforces a culture where a significant portion of the citizens needs to hide from the rest of the population out of fear.”

Last month, the global United Methodist Church approved a resolution opposing homophobia and heterosexism. The denomination’s resolution came as Christians in the United States have begun to show more compassion when dealing with the issue of homosexuality while maintaining their biblical stance that homosexual practice is sin.

Despite the negative perception most Britons have of religion, over two-thirds of poll respondents said they still believed that religion has a place in modern life.

The Reform Movement of Judaism represents about a quarter of Britain's Jews.

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  • Fri May 23, 2008 5:39 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Chris

    Actually living here ,I would say that we have our far share of problems like most countries. There are of course various places I would not go at night (late) but of course this is no diffrent to America where there are places you would most likely not go. Every few weeks some mates and I go out to the pub etc.. till quite late, I never worry about walking home.

    There are plenty of striaght people at the BBC.

    Steve

  • Fri May 23, 2008 2:38 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Chris: I'm just reporting what I observed. I have friends from there as well and they mentioned the same thing to me - that the US didn't feel as safe to them as England.

  • Thu May 22, 2008 10:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Homophobia, a word found in the Devil's dictionary. If it isn't it should be as there are a lot of
    saints confused by it and a lot of ain'ts content. I'm sure Forked Tongue is having a chuckle.
    If this is any consolation , Jesus said," I will build my church and the gates of hell (counsels ?)
    will not prevail against it."

  • Thu May 22, 2008 4:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    The truth is it is the non-religious community that "fundamentally discriminate" in an effort to evade the gospel. Religion does discriminate. Atheism discriminates. Christianity sets requirements of what God says is quality within the creation and that is the standard.

    Discriminate: "to mark or perceive the distinguishing or peculiar features of". Homosexuality is discriminately different from hetrosexuality. The Bible says one is natural and the other is against the natural function (the natural function being the way babies are made without medical intervention).

    The poll itself 'discriminates' against religion so what's their point? They want to example to religion what discrimination is?

  • Thu May 22, 2008 4:24 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    I watch some programs from the BBC America. The plugs for other programs makes me wonder...is anyone at the BBC 'straight'?

  • Wed May 21, 2008 10:53 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    ifeelfine,

    I have some friends from England, and they have told me enough stories to make me almost believe that the U.S. is a safer place. Report after report have come out noting the extreme drinking problems that England has. CNN just gave a couple recently. They have a lot of problems there.

  • Wed May 21, 2008 9:55 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    My family and I were stationed in Europe for over 7 years and we loved it, in fact along with several other families we planted a church for mainly those who were stationed in Holland with us. At first we met in a local community center and then we moved our services to a Dutch Baptist Seminary that was much closer to the base. Before we were tranferred to Italy several Dutch people began attending our services. I say all that to say this what I found in the Christian community was a highly intellectual theology what they believed appeared to be biblically solid but it was so intellectual that a non-Christian would have a difficult time understanding what they both believed and shared through the pulpit or even in Bible studies. I personally believe that is one of the major reasons Europe spiritually is so dark. What they need are churches as well as ministries that are sharing a simple Gospel, there are some but Europe desperately needs more. Another issue in Holland and it may be tha same in other European countries is that they are not only a very private people they also have a very high regard and respect for the privacy of others. Many Americans stationed in Holland interpreted that as snobbery but if you let them know you wanted to be a part of their community they welcomed you with open arms. That being true confrontational evangelism regardless of how tactfully it's done flies right in the face of their culture so the churches need to be trained in and exercising a lifestyle evangelism approach if they are to effectively reach the community for Christ.

  • Wed May 21, 2008 12:55 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Matthew 7:21 (New King James Version)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.



    I Never Knew You

    21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

  • Wed May 21, 2008 12:55 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    John 14:6 (New King James Version)
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.


    6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

  • Wed May 21, 2008 12:54 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    continued:

    Apostates Predicted

    16 These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage. 17 But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: 18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.
    Maintain Your Life with God

    20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
    22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;[d] 23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,[e] hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.
    Glory to God
    24 Now to Him who is able to keep you[f] from stumbling,
    And to present you faultless
    Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,
    25 To God our Savior,[g]
    Who alone is wise,[h]
    Be glory and majesty,
    Dominion and power,[i]
    Both now and forever.
    Amen.



    Footnotes:

    Jude 1:1 NU-Text reads beloved.
    Jude 1:4 NU-Text omits God.
    Jude 1:12 NU-Text and M-Text read along.
    Jude 1:22 NU-Text reads who are doubting (or making distinctions).
    Jude 1:23 NU-Text adds and on some have mercy with fear and omits with fear in first clause.
    Jude 1:24 M-Text reads them.
    Jude 1:25 NU-Text reads To the only God our Savior.
    Jude 1:25 NU-Text omits Who . . . is wise and adds Through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    Jude 1:25 NU-Text adds Before all time.

  • Wed May 21, 2008 12:52 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    imagoodguy wrote:

    "Society is changing, religion also needs to adapt however difficult it may seem. Imagine what went through the minds of heretics when one fine day society said "Only One GOD"!!! All we need to do is change the rituals to make them more accommodating. I am sure God will still love us... "

    jesus4me quotes what God says in His Word:

    Contend for the Faith

    3 Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. 4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God[b] and our Lord Jesus Christ.
    Old and New Apostates

    5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
    8 Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak evil of dignitaries. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. 11 Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.
    Apostates Depraved and Doomed

    12 These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about[c] by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; 13 raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
    14 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, 15 to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”

  • Wed May 21, 2008 12:48 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    1 Cornthians 6:9-20

    9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
    Glorify God in Body and Spirit

    12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.
    15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.”[b] 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
    18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body[c] and in your spirit, which are God’s.

    Footnotes:

    1 Corinthians 6:9 That is, catamites
    1 Corinthians 6:16 Genesis 2:24
    1 Corinthians 6:20 NU-Text ends the verse at bod

  • Tue May 20, 2008 4:17 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    I think it very odd that any true *Christian* would oppose referring to God as male - since Jesus Himself taught His disciples to pray "Our *Father* who art in Heaven..." This is simply the objection of *religionists* hiding behind a facade of Christianity - and not of true Christians.

  • Tue May 20, 2008 1:14 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    "Religion" may need to adapt, but as for me, my RELATIONSHIP with Christ will not. God's Word is plain for all to see, if they want to see. Homosexual behavior is sin and will be judged as sin, as all sin will.

  • Tue May 20, 2008 1:08 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    john14-6: I don't know what part of GB you were in but I didn't see any of that at all. In fact, I never felt safer than when I was over there. The people were friendly, I didn't see any crime (except maybe a little drunkenness), the police were engaged. I would rather be in downtown London than almost any urban center in the US.

  • Tue May 20, 2008 12:49 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 2

    Britain has become a moral cesspool with the decline of the church, and it is evident in everything from the contents of this article, to the rampant street crime going on everywhere over there (especially London), the rise in cohabitation among couples, the staggering abortion rate, a precipitous birthrate decline among the native population of Britain, a stagnant economy, a massive welfare state, an aggressive immigrant Muslim population, and a frightened, cowering, native population that now hides indoors and won't venture out on their own streets.

    Priests have recently become an increasing target of gangs of Muslim youths that have attacked and beaten more than one member of the clergy in their own churches. The police do nothing. Knife crimes are epidemic. The police do nothing. Robbery, burlary, rape and homicide have gone through the roof, even in smaller towns and "hamlets" that used to have almost zero violent crimes.

    Given all that, I'm not much concerned about what "Most Britain's think" of religion. I'll pray for them, but their opinion's about the church simply reflect their general cultural decline and how effective a hostile media has been in portraying the church. Religion isn't the problem, but I doubt they have a clue that a return to Christian morals is all that will save their society and culture.

  • Tue May 20, 2008 12:34 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 2

    jesusismyhomie: Common sense has nothing to do with this. Try spiritual conviction. That's more like it. Spiritual conviction allows us to see how God see's things through the Bible. Therefore, if it were common sense that we need, than let me challenge you what the Bible and common sense states, "The fool says in his heart that there is no God." I believe you in a past blog called Jesus the character of imagination. Thus, the jesus your talking about is your Mexican friend.You see, spiritual conviction tells us there is a God, common sense than agrees. Yet the fool says there isn't one.

  • Tue May 20, 2008 12:21 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Society is changing, religion also needs to adapt however difficult it may seem. Imagine what went through the minds of heretics when one fine day society said "Only One GOD"!!! All we need to do is change the rituals to make them more accommodating. I am sure God will still love us...

  • Mon May 19, 2008 11:42 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 5

    Most Britons say religion is sexist, descriminates against gays....and they would be mostly right.

    Yes, we make distinctions between the genders - women should not be teaching men or holding authority over men, women should be submissive while men should take a loving leadership role, men were created in God's glory while women were created in the glory of man, God reveals himself in the masculine....so yes, in that sense, if you want to call it "sexist" then so be it.

    Yes, we discriminate against gays - they are in open opposition to God. They are wicked and lost. I was once lost and disgusting and my flesh is wicked so I don't somehow consider myself, apart from Christ, any better than them - but that doesn't excuse me from speaking the truth in love that they are lost, disgusting, God-haters who are living in sin and need a saviour.

    Society might find it reasonable if a boss fired someone from their job if they were convicted of downloading child pornography, but unreasonable if the employee only admitted to downloading pornography. Society might find it reasonable if a boss fired an employee for being convicted of polygamy, but not if the employee is simply a homosexual. Times are changing - is what we discriminate against going to be determined by societal norms or what Scripture says? Who is the highest authority - Caesar or Christ?

  • Mon May 19, 2008 8:58 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 7

    If only my fellow Americans had as much common sense as the Britons.

  • igh »
    Mon May 19, 2008 8:40 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 2

    yes gays are sinners and need to repent and turn to Righteousness. Fear God keep his Commandments, says the Preacher. Those who are Saved are Right with God and will pass from this world to Heaven at the Gathering. To rule adn Reign with Christ for a Thousand years. Pretty cool. Everyone is Responsible for there choice to Love God and all his ways or to Hate God and all his Ways. BTW, if you persecute God's children even calling the homophobes, then you are doing that to Christ Jesus. And if your Treating Christ that way then you are Treating his Father that way. Spiritual Food for Thought. :)

  • Mon May 19, 2008 7:58 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 3

    Homophobia is calling someone a bad name or being scared of them.

    Christians know they are disorderd in their sexual attraction. Homosexuals are loved by God, but if they act out on Homosexual activities they will be condemned no different than a heterosexual will be condemned for sex outside of marriage.

    Any sex outside of marriage is a Mortal sin. What you do in the Flesh severely wounds your soul.

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