STOCKTON, Calif. (AP) - Republican John McCain on Thursday rejected endorsements from two influential but controversial televangelists, saying there is no place for their incendiary criticisms of other faiths.
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(Photo: AP Images / Jeff Chiu)Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., pauses while speaking about the Columbia Free Trade agreement and Cuban Independence Day on Tuesday, May 20, 2008, in Miami.
McCain rejected the months-old endorsement of Texas preacher John Hagee after an audio recording surfaced in which the preacher said God sent Adolf Hitler to help Jews reach the promised land. McCain called the comment "crazy and unacceptable."
He later repudiated the support of Rod Parsley, an Ohio preacher who has sharply criticized Islam and called the religion inherently violent.
McCain issued a statement Thursday afternoon announcing his decision about Hagee.
"Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Reverend Hagee's endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well," he said.
Later, in Stockton, he told reporters: "I just think that the statement is crazy and unacceptable."
Then in an interview with The Associated Press, McCain said he rejected Parsley's support, too.
"I believe there is no place for that kind of dialogue in America, and I believe that even though he endorsed me, and I didn't endorse him, the fact is that I repudiate such talk, and I reject his endorsement," McCain told the AP.
Hagee had sparked controversy since the San Antonio pastor endorsed McCain on Feb. 27 shortly before the Texas presidential primary. Parsley's views were aired Thursday in an ABC News report.
McCain actively courted Hagee, who leads a megachurch with a congregation in the tens of thousands and has an even wider television audience. Former GOP presidential rivals also sought Hagee's backing.
Hagee has referred to the Roman Catholic Church as "the great whore" and called it a "false cult system." He also has linked Hitler to the Catholic church, suggesting it helped shape his anti-Semitism. And Hagee said Hurricane Katrina was God's retribution for homosexual sin.
McCain has faced a barrage of criticism over Hagee, with some comparing the situation to the controversy Democrat Barack Obama faced over the views of his longtime and now former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
McCain tried Thursday to draw a distinction between the Obama-Wright connection and his own relationships with Parsley and Hagee, saying Hagee was not his pastor.
"My church I attend is North Phoenix Baptist Church; my pastor and spiritual guide is Pastor Dan Yeary," McCain said. "I've never been to Pastor Hagee's church or Pastor Parsley's church. I didn't attend their church for 20 years. I'm not a member of their church."
Parsley did not return a message for comment left after business hours at World Harvest Church in suburban Columbus.
Obama, who was campaigning in Florida, said that in national politics it's easy to find people who have said or done offensive things.
"John McCain has to deal with Hagee, who said something that is mind-boggling. I don't attribute those statements to John McCain. Nobody thinks McCain believes that stuff," Obama said.
Until now, McCain had tried to distance himself from Hagee's views but had not rejected the endorsement.
"I'm glad to have his endorsement," he said on ABC's "This Week" in April. "I condemn remarks that are, in any way, viewed as anti-anything." Continue >>
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spawn_of_satan
You father, the devil, has come to kill, still, and destroy but Jesus Christ has come to give you life and that more abundantly (John 10:10). There is pleasure in sin for a season (Heb 11:25)but your father the devil will turn it against you and destroy your life with it. But Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil (1 John 3:8). It is appointed unto man once to die but afterward judgment (Heb 9:27). Stay a child of the devil and you will spend your eternity in torment with him (Matt 25:41). Become a child of God thru the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave His life for you so you can beforgiven and you will spend your eternity with Him (John 1:12,Romans 3:24-26, 1 John 5:11). Whose child will you be?
I am not a Rod Parsley fan, but the comments attributed to him in this article are the truth. Moreover, McCain's statement copied below is frightening.
"I condemn remarks that are, in any way, viewed as anti-anything."
spawn_of_satan
You father, the devil, has come to kill, still, and destroy but Jesus Christ has come to give you life and that more abundantly (John 10:10). There is pleasure in sin for a season (Heb 11:25)but your father the devil will turn it against you and destroy your life with it. But Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil (1 John 3:8). It is appointed unto man once to die but afterward judgment (Heb 9:27). Stay a child of the devil and you will spend your eternity in torment with him (Matt 25:41). Become a child of God thru the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave His life for you so you can beforgiven and you will spend your eternity with Him (John 1:12,Romans 3:24-26, 1 John 5:11). Whose child will you be?
Oh you be quiet God-Sent>:(
You know what, its like this, dont let the bible conrtol you or what you think. If you really love or like someone, dont let the gender stop you.
Looks like spawn_of_satan proved my point.
Who cares man? Why should it even matter anymore? ITs a NEW era. Lets live it up!!!!!!!
God-sent, a huge AMEN to your blog and more importantly the truth you shared from God's Word, believer
Believer:
Many people of today's society fall under this category:
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto [them that are] wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! (Isaiah 5:20-21)
The point is people will justify whats is worthy of eternal damnation to try to make themselves and others feel better about doing it. They are lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of Truth.
thelordismylight, the Bible says that if a man lusts after a woman who is not his wife that he has commited adultery with her and the same is true with homosexuality if a man lusts after another man or a woman lusts after another woman or if someone says that the practices of homosexuaity are an acceptable alternative that is sin as well because it is saying that a practice God clearly calls sin is permissible. It would be like a parent telling their child it's okay to shoplift or cheat on a test even though they haven't done those things they've given their child permission to do those things.
thelordismylight
I agree with you that having homosexual temptations and acting on them are two different things. However, the homosexual temptation is not of God but is of the devil. If a person has homosexual temptations he doesn't have to live with it. Jesus can and will set that person free if that person will let Him.
Oh yea and... VOTE MCCAIN SAVE OUR COUNTRY WOOOOOO... haha... sorry about that.
NOWHERE in the bible does it say homosexuality is condemned... it says that ACTS of homosexuality are condemned... there is temptation and then there is giving INTO that temptation... two entirely different things.
Folks, what is the title of this story? The story is NOT about homosexuality nor does it invoke various Biblical passages. And the reality of your going off on tangents pertaining to those topics and not focusing with detail upon John McCains discarding John Hagee and Rod Parsley reveal what is terribly wrong with the so-called Christian conservative movement.
The so-called Christian conservative segment of our society is a numerical minority, far more minor than you might think. Hagee, Parsley, Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Faye Baker,Donald Wildmon, and James Dobson are but a few of the faces and voices of the Christian conservatives seen and heard by the vast majority of Americans.
Their conduct, their values and philosophies, and their sermons cause the vast majority of Americans to want to put a great distance between themselves and Christian conservatives, no less than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has driven a wedge into society. Further, the conduct of George W. Bush and his fellow travelers have presented a horrible image of Christian conservatism to American citizens and again, the desire to place great distances between the majority of Americans and Christian conservatism is far, far more powerful than your postings here give evidence of understanding.
In so many words, the Christian conservative movement has been used by the Bush administration and the many who populate it for political gain and NOT FOR the advancement of those causes and values held dear by the Christian conservatives.
Realize, please, resorting to nit picking over abortion, homosexuality, and Christian values, as well as debating innumerable passages from the Bible IN PUBLIC reinforces public images of who you are and what you really represent. Once more, WHAT IS THE TITLE OF THIS ARTICLE?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY JOHN MCCAIN MADE THE DECISION TO PUT DISTANCE BETWEEN HIMSELF BETWEEN JOHN HAGEE AND ROD PARSELY?
Until you arrive at that understanding, you are going to do nothing more than widen the divide between yourselves and America and ultimately become a footnote to American political history.
blue, I would love to hear your spin on Lev. 18:22. When my son was a little guy I put him down for his nap and laid with him until he fell asleep, in Army ROTC during a survival exercise I laid back to back with another cadet to stay warm, in both cases fully dressed. God says that lying with a man as a man lies with a woman is an abomination. Do you really think those of us who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible are really that gullible, next time try this since you don't believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, that's the Old Testament and is no longer relevant since the coming of Christ so those rules no longer apply. But for those of us who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible we have no doubt whatsoever that God in both the Old and New Testament condemns the sin of practicing homosexuality.
Once again we can't see the fire through all of the smoke.The article is not about wheather homosexuality is a sin.(all unmarried sex is)It is about the fact that John McCain went runnung to the most famous "evangelical "he could find to endorse him in Texas.Never mind that this man preaches that Jews can achieve salvation without recieving Jesus as their savior.John Hagee for this and many reason is a black eye to the cause of Christ.And anyone who takes him and his false teachings seriously needs some time at the altar.
I am not cherry picking, i believe that you are simply wrong. we may have our differences, but i believe in the academics and scholarly translations before some stranger's opinion.
Leviticus 18: 22: this is literally a list a condemned sexual acts. most of them, in my opinion, state that incest is wrong. your verse; it only says lie; it does not translate in the context of sexual relations that the others so specifically say. you may disagree, but that is what i think and i am entitled to my opinion.
Romans 1:26-29; Cornthians 6:9-20: and as i stated, these are letters, epistles. i do not, in my own right to believe and debate, think that these letters are holy. they are a MAN's story of conversion. NOT the mysterious and unique unknown of the old testament.
blue1018
Here they are. This is repeated to many times that being gay is a sin. You can’t cherry pick what you want to believe in, it all or nothing. I had to adjust my live to please my Lord and Savior, just like all of His servants who fear Him.
Leviticus 18: 22
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
Romans 1:26-29
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[c] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,
1 Cornthians 6:9-20
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
Glorify God in Body and Spirit
Note: I flagged myself for typos
show me the scriptures, the exact "homosexuality is a sin" scripture, not transliterated to fit modern meaning. please do. because the gospels were written in ancient greek, to latin, to english.
blue1018, I can tell you know very little about the Bible, but when it talks about being stoned in the Old Testament it's doesn't mean getting high. That was the prescribed punishment for any Jew who commited sins of homosexuality. The Old and New Testament alike call the practice of homosexuality a sin.
The most amazing feature of human intellect is that it produces such amazing differences among passionate individuals. smiley i can not disagree more; while we may have our differences, i do not believe that the old testament says anything negative about homosexuality. academically, i believe that is it a struggle to really know anything about the historiography and transliteration of the bible, since its writings are so old, authors unknown, and language and meanings translated so, so much. thus, to say any mention in the old testament refers to homosexuality would be wrong because, like i said, cultural antiquity is forever lost when one tries to trace back the origins of the bible. as for the new testament; the progress of the new testament collections is one of a mystery. there are obviously gospels that have been lost; ones that may never have had the chance to even be considered; and ones that were probably shunned by roman catholic priests. i can not even argue with you over the validity of the new testament because the true answer really can not be answered, only one's faith will say. but i will end with this- my point before was that hagee, from my experience, does not reflect a real christian preacher who truly wishes to proclaim the word of the bible. instead of professionally and honestly trying to help others strengthen their faith, i believe that he uses a form of hate speech and rude, abrasive remarks - distorted versions of the bible to reflect his views -. while we may beg to differ exactly what the bible says and MEANS, to do it in the way that hagee does it is, i think, quite shameful.
One more comment to blue1018....
You mentioned that the priests you know have only kindly disagreed and acknowledged other points of view instead of acting in an abusive manner as Hagee does concerning gay marriage and premarital sex. ummm....would you say God was being abusive when He wrote in Scripture that a homosexual should be put to death for his actions? I do believe we are all under grace since Jesus died on the cross and that grace covers homosexuals rescuing them, while they are here on this earth, from the punishment of death. But an unrepentant soul will receive it's punishment eventually. I do not hate homosexuals. I would have not the slightest problem telling a homosexual person that my God does not look kindly on their actions but instead loves them so much that He sent His only Son to die for them...and me...for our multitude of sins. We can't coddle anyone...not ANYONE...for their sins but we must also remember to show The Way in love. As a Christian I am called to be narrow minded: Jesus said, "I am The Way, The Truth and The Life. No man comes to The Father except through me." That doesn't leave alot of wiggle room. "Because straight is the gate and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:14
I agree with BreatheTruth. I am a bit disappointed in Pastor Hagee in that it "appears" he is attempting to be politically correct. But then I read, for the first time, in this article that he said he feared "they {his comments} have become a distraction". The Bible tells us to be careful of not becoming stumbling blocks.
As for the comments made concerning Hitler, God does allow bad things to happen to everyone, including the Jews. The Old Testament is full of incidences where the Jews were punished for their straying from God and His Laws. Do I think The Holocaust happened? Absolutely. Do I think it was a good thing? Absolutely not. Do I think the Jews are still God's chosen people and we should pray for them? Yes and amen.
As for comments concerning the Catholic church I believe we must separate the Catholic people from the Catholic Church when making statements as Pastor Hagee did. I do not agree with the ecclesiastical or doctrinal workings of the Catholic church and I find no Biblical basis for many of their practices. At the same time I know numerous Catholic people who I find to be quite devoted to God Almighty and most in love with our Savior, Jesus Christ. I believe the comments Pastor Hagee made were targeted at the Catholic Church, in particular and not at the general population of Catholics themselves. But then, this is one person's interpretation of another person's statements.
As for Pastor Parsley's comments on Islam if a person does only a little research into this religion they would find that his statements are, in fact, true. Any religion that advocates giving "unbelievers" a choice of acceptance of that religion or death should be considered a violent religion. And before someone pops up with the fact that Christianity has done the same at other times in history I will agree and state that I do not condone this practice nor does Scripture or God Himself.
Should politics and faith be mixed? In my opinion if my faith in God does not pervade my entire life, including my political beliefs and affiliations then it's not much of a faith. I am a hypocrite if I only take God out of His box on Sunday mornings, evenings and Wednesday nights at church but then put Him back on the shelf the rest of the week or for other events in my life. If my faith is to be true it must touch every aspect of my life...including my politics.
One more opinion...you know everyone has one!
I am not a "follower" of Hagee. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and a saved by grace Christian. Preachers who are preaching the entire message of Christ, including interpretations of Revelation, should not be compromising sound doctrine at the expense of politics or, becoming politically correct in the eyes of all peoples. Apologizing for something he believes to be the Turth has made Pastor Hagee appear unstable in all his ways. Very sad!
reply to:song2vs4Fri May 23, 2008 12:19 pm : 0 : 0 Flag
Is it necessary for you guys to blather on about "how much good you do for the poor"?
Not really, but every time I put my candle under a bush, it catches fire......
Is it necessary for you guys to blather on about "how much good you do for the poor"?
i am quite disgusted by hagee. i was raised catholic, and even though i do not practice it now, i knew some of the most wonderful priests. they never, EVER talked with the distorted, gross, radical rhetoric that hagee does. on issues such as gay marriage and premaritial sex, they only kindly disagreed, acknowledged other points of views, and never acted in such abusive manner that hagee does. i will forever respect men who know how to respectfully encourage Christianity without a fear-envoking, distorted hagee-like manner
OR WHOEVER ASKED ME, I AM NOT TAKING LIGHT OF THOSE WHO THE LORDS WORK FOR THE POOR.
REPLY TOfebruary17thFri May 23, 2008 11:41 am : 0 : 0 Flag
What do you think I did in the slums of Kenya? Vacation? My whole premise for being there was people. Are you sure you understand me?
I am not going to engage in a battle over who has done what, if that is what you want to do then I do not want to participate, its childish.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YOU ASKED ME WHAT I HAVE DONE, I AM NOT DENEGRATING YOUR CHARITY WORK....!
What do you think I did in the slums of Kenya? Vacation? My whole premise for being there was people. Are you sure you understand me?
I am not going to engage in a battle over who has done what, if that is what you want to do then I do not want to participate, its childish.
REPLY TO free2bFri May 23, 2008 11:05 am : 0 : 0 Flag
More proof that religion and politics should never (NEVER) be mixed.
Then life would be so bored!!!! LOL
More proof that religion and politics should never (NEVER) be mixed.
I think Hagees comments were unfortunate though well intentioned, but the way it came out, it sounds really bad. Any time we presume to know what God was thinking when he allowed certain things to happen, we get ourselves in a lot of trouble. Why did God allow Hitler to do what he did? We all have our opinions, but I think Hagee's idea pretty silly. God wants to reconcile all men, especially the Jews, to himself. Jesus didn't much care about the geo-political aspect of restoring Israel, otherwise he'd have done that instead of giving his life for us.
Trips to Africa are good and needed, but we are talking about people here. What have you done to stop abortion, or besides paying lip service about it stoping gay marriage, this is still going after the republican had control of the whole government. You can dance around it all you want, but it does not change facts. Republican needed evangelicals and catholics to vote for them are them, or they never would have control. And the only way they can do is by promising that they fight these things but deep in their heart they don't. Look at Pat Robertson endorsing Guliani, a 3 times married pro choice Catholic. Robertson does trip to africa all the time. When he is not racing his $500, 000 race horse. Its about a lot of things [mainly money] but do not give me this marlarky about its about families becasue the facts do not show it.
As far as my charity, I have done work at catholic charities women and childrens shelter to give women a chance to avoid abortion and a place to stay by helping with grounds keeping. I have done habitat for humanity homes. And helped out at homeless shelters etc.
ronwilson4u Rev. Hagee misspoke when he said "God sent Adolf Hitler to help Jews reach the promised land." God does not send evil men like Adolf Hitler to do Satan's bidding...
I don't know if this was a direct quote or not, but for clarification purposes I think it is fair to say (based on scripture) that God sometimes allows bad things to happen to achieve His purposes. Would you agree?
quetzal,
I think I'm agreeing with you, but just one thing I wanted to say was that the type of government we have is important, but ultimately I believe it is up to the body of Christ to provide for the poor. I'm not saying that the government shouldn't help out the poor. In fact, they should. I just think we shouldn't rely on the government to do that because the government is an impersonal force. When my tax dollars go into a government program that doesn't address the emotional/spiritual needs of the poor, I feel that this isn't the best way. That's why we need to lead the way as believers in reaching out to the poor with our finances and with our time. I think that's happening more often than the media would like to admit, but I agree that this needs to be improved upon.
Regarding the query as to whether or not God works through the economy. Well, YES. God expects us to carry out His will in all that we undertake in order to bring about the Kingdom.
Jesus had far more to say about taking care of the poor, the sick, and the weak than just about anything else. Whether the ïsm¨ in effect is capitalistic or socialistic isn´t the main point; It´s whether or not the system is just, honest, and provides an opportunity for all. (Both types of systems have weaknesses because it´s ultimately government that´s responsible. ) JHS is truly angry, understandably so considering the current state of the US economy and it´s effect on the middle class, not to mention the poor whose suffering becomes even more intense. What is truly tragic is that now religion, which should hold us together as children of God, is just as polarizing and divisive as politics.
JHS: I'm curious what you specifically have done to help the poor. There's a lot of talk about right wing Christians being uncaring towards the poor but if you look at the facts you'll see that simply isn't true. What are you basing your argument on? How are people like us showing we don't care for the poor? I'm really puzzled.
JHS: I dont care about the poor?? I could go on and on about my trips to Africa and talk your ear off. My life revolves around an organization that assists the forgotten. I am not going to boast about that to you as God knows my heart.
To place blame on a single party and not individuals is just irresponsible.
I want to throw out a challenge to you JHS. Practice inductive bible study and see what God has to say on the matters that you are screaming about. What does He want us to focus on?
reply:february17thFri May 23, 2008 9:51 am : 0 : 0 Flag
JHS: I believe something other than this topic is fueling your rage and hope you find the issue. I feel you are misguided and yes that is just an opinion. You try to generalize everything with one or two circumstances and frankly that is not the way to draw conclusions.
As far as upholding my Evangelical values, yes I try to do that as Jesus instructed me to do.
..reply..My "rage" is the fact that people like have contributed to the mess we are in this " I have got min and it's a shame you don't"Herbert Hoover mentality that is incredible. Since Bush took office OIL has gone through the roof , [and I am in a oil state]. Yet with a straight face people blame democrats for this, that's a joke! We knoe have more people without affordable insurance [I am not one however] but you and your could really care less and it shows. I am sure you mean well, but frankly you and the like are HALF THE PROBLEM. And Jesus does care about the poor and the less fortunate, unlike you do.
JHS: I believe something other than this topic is fueling your rage and hope you find the issue. I feel you are misguided and yes that is just an opinion. You try to generalize everything with one or two circumstances and frankly that is not the way to draw conclusions.
As far as upholding my Evangelical values, yes I try to do that as Jesus instructed me to do.
Rev. Hagee misspoke when he said "God sent Adolf Hitler to help Jews reach the promised land." God does not send evil men like Adolf Hitler to do Satan's bidding. Nobody believes Hitler did anything to "help" the Jews. God our Creator is not to blame for any evil. Satan and man with their freewill and fallen natures are to blame for all evil, sin, suffering, and death. God, in His mercy and grace, has prepared The Way, The Truth, and The Life for us to be restored to fellowship with Him. Choose God's will for you today. Choose to follow Jesus. See: itsallaboutjesusnotme.blogspot.com/
After reading JHS's comments, I remembered all over again why I dread election years. It seems like you can't go anywhere without hearing someone blow their top about politics. Everyone has their pet beliefs and no amount of "discussion" will persuade them otherwise. I can forgive non-christians for this, but when I hear such venom and rage coming from a fellow believer, it just makes me depressed.
I don't know why we feel that screaming at each other will somehow fix the world. I think maybe it's because we want control and that we get frusterated when things don't go as we think they should go.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not holier than thou. I've engaged in my fair share of angry rants and un-godly, heated debates with those who I disagreed with. The 2004 election knocked it all out of me. I am still burnt out from that election.
I wish I could hibernate through this one somehow. That would be awesome.
Excuse my ignorance, but does'nt the states have a "no confidence vote" when it comes to elections? Or something to that effect, i.e; don't consider any candidatee suitable? I fail to see how any follower of CHRIST can in good conscience vote for a candidate of any party who is clearly in violation of scripture and who supports sinful behavior, anybody who believes otherwise can you explain your position as a real christian? IN JESUS NAME
@Gmac,
I was trying to give you as many thumbs up as possible LOL. That my brothers and sisters is the problem! We are a community of believers of Jesus Christ! We are not and shouldnt be a PAC. McCain sought the endorsement out of fear of losing evangelical votes to Huckabee. And like GMAC said, no research was done. I saw Hagee as a problem the min he endorsed John. I think Parsley whether or not you agree with his overall views was not justified.
okayyyyyyyy then,
The logic here is fantastic. If your home team isn't performing up to par, switch horses and root for the visiting team. Gee, doing something like that back in the school days, would get your butt kicked.
The GOP may not be making the progress on issues that you'd lik to see progress on - but I don't understand how supporting the "other" party who would take this country down a completely opposite path, is any way helpful. (Unless of course all you're really wanting is change for the sake of change alone with no regard for what manner of change it is.)
Personally, after witnessing first hand the utter disaster that Canadian socialized healthcare is - I in no way want Shrillary or her cronies in any way near a seat of power where she might finally get her wish of doing the same "favor" for Americans.
"we still have abortion and gay marriage making headway"
You are correct about this and it saddens me deeply but what are Hilary and Obama going to do about it? You said yourself you are against these things. Do they have a plan to combat it or support it (Homosexuality/Abortion)???
"and then pass every bill that hurts the working families in this country."
C'mon. This is another very uneducated answer for a degreed man. EVERY bill? Do you really believe the sole purpose of the Republican party is to "pass bills that hurt working families"??????
Side note: I am what the world considers middle class and a working family.
What we really need is people with some backbone. What ever happened to standing up for what you believe in. These canidates make me sick. The media says "Boo" and they crumble.
REPLY TO february17th.
There is plently of blame to go around, but he republicans controlled the congress for 6 years, the white house and the supreme court, we still have abortion and gay marriage making headway, as far as my remarks being uneducated or the like, I have a degree and my positions are thought out based on facts. The evangelicals and some catholics in the republican party bemoan abortion and the like, and then pass every bill that hurts the working families in this country. I have republican family members on both sides of my wife's and my family who are VERY well off, and some have adopted kids, even they think that the economics in this country are tilted to thier favor, and they see what is going with their net worth over the past 6 years going up and the middle class losing ground every since Bush has been in office. Now they will vote for the republican ticket, but they get now whats going on, and even they think there needs to be oversite of the insurance and oil interest in this country which tied to the hip of the republican party.
Sadly, this is all just politics. Putting aside whether you agree with Hagee and Parsley for a minute:
The truth is, if McCain cared at all about the truth, he would have researched these guys before courting them. Instead, he sought them out only for the votes they could bring. And the sad fact is, he would have never repudiated anything they said had it not become a political liability. (and before you say it, yes, the same goes for Obama and Wright).
This is why churches and pastors need to stay out of the political arena. Yes, we as Christians should vote our conscience as the Lord leads, but that isn't the same as engaging in political games. In the political arena, the truth is only what supports your cause. The church should focus on leading people to Christ. The better we do at that, the better our country and our leadership will become as a result.
Your comments are placing more importance on some items than others. ie. economy over marriage/abortion. Do you believe God works this way?
When you say the "groups like" are you referring to Protestants? Just trying to understand your position.
Wow, JHS. I enjoyed your "Christ-centered" attitude response! (you left your caps lock on)
You are condensing an entire party down to a few people. Your answers are very immature and uneducated.
Just out of curiosity...........Is the sactity of marriage important to you? Is the unborn child?
Awaiting your response.
Why any Christian would vote democrat this time around puzzles me. With Obama and Hilary's stance on homosexuality and abortion why would you? (assuming you are a Christ-follower)
As a RC, I am glad McCain dumped this oversized loud mouth, he needs to dump rod parsley too, although I am voting democratic this time around, it is these right wing over self paid bible thumpers, who are destroying the republican party, and frankly given the last 7 years of Bush's economic and war in Iraq it' s a good thing.