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World|Mon, May. 26 2008 08:58 AM EDT

Jim Wallis: Faith Succeeding Where Politics Has Failed

By Maria Mackay|Christian Post Correspondent

He urged churches to “lead by example” and not bend to fit politicians’ agendas, but compel the politicians to fit the church’s agenda.

“[Martin Luther] King and [Mahatma] Ghandi knew you have to change the wind,” he said. “But change the wind and it’s remarkable how quickly they (politicians) respond. They have an agenda. We can’t just fit into their agenda. We have to have an agenda that they respond to. That’s what movements have done …. That’s the big possibility.”

Wallis also appealed to Christians not to fall into cynicism but to continue to have hope in change.

“The big choice is the choice between hope and cynicism,” he said.

“[Cynics] are against all the bad stuff but you don’t think it could ever change. And so your cynicism becomes a buffer against commitment.

“Hope on the other hand isn’t a feeling or a personality type. Hope is a choice people make, a decision they make, because of the thing we call faith. Hebrews says faith is the substance of things hoped for … hope means believing in spite of the evidence and then watching the evidence change.”

Christians need to invest their time, money, talents and faith into making change happen, Wallis stressed.

“If you don’t put everything into it, there won’t be any movements that change much of anything. But if you do, there is no telling what this generation will accomplish.”

He concluded: “We’ve seen a lot of bad religion. Bad religion pulls up the worst stuff. But good religion brings out our best stuff – the compassion of Christ, a hunger for justice …. Good religion is the answer to bad religion. That time is coming again.”

Wallis was joined on the platform by Steve Chalke, the founder of Christian movement Faithworks, which hosted the evening.

He echoed Wallis’ sentiments, saying, “Jim is right, politics is broken. Politics isn’t working.”

Chalke admitted however that “our (Christians’) theology is broken a lot of the time” and spoke of the need for a move away from “disembodied and spiritual good news” towards a more socially engaged and holistic theology.

“We have got to read our Bibles more closely than we have done and engage more fiercely than we have done,” he told the audience, adding, “Faith isn’t about an escape and materialism.”

Chalke also told Christians that they have nothing to fear from new atheists like Richard Dawkins, author of the God Delusion, saying the fact that Dawkins recently identified himself as a ”cultural Christian” was tantamount to an admission that atheism is morally bankrupt.

“Secular humanism is going to produce a moral desert,” he said.

In an age where Christians no longer hold power in society, Christians “are going to have to demonstrate faith,” he continued.

“What actually matters is who delivers something down on the ground. That’s the challenge to us.”

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  • Wed May 28, 2008 2:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    "Jim Wallis is a universalist/inclusivist heretic"

    I believe that Wallis went eye to eye with Lee Strobel once on the issue of hell on Faith Under Fire.

    Squeekywheel, I doubt Wallis is only doing it for money. Him and Tony Compolo are both sold out to social liberalism under the guise of justice, putting money aside. While it would be stretch to call them members of the Jesus Seminar as liberal critiques, they certainly are however liberal theologians and social liberals.

    Godspeed to you both!

  • Wed May 28, 2008 10:30 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Jim Wallis is a universalist/inclusivist heretic who preaches the social gospel/social justice gospel. (socialist gospel)

    Why is he being promoted by "CHristian" (ear scratching) Post? OH that's right, because CP isn't realy Christian.

  • Wed May 28, 2008 1:45 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    ifeelfine72 said:
    <squeakywheel: Jim has not been a mouthpiece for either party (he's been critical of both parties) but I'll happily say, how about the repuglican party nudge closer to greater social justice for the already born?>

    Wallis is a member of the Democratic Party; he is a Democratic Party consultant paid to offer advice on how to woo the people of faith into the Democratic Party by teaching Democratic politicians how to speak the "language" of the people of faith. That's a "mouthpiece" by any standard.

    Both political parties can always use more nudging towards greater social justice. It all depends on your definitions and methods for achieving such goals. However, that does not detract from the Democratic Party's utter hostility towards the civil rights of the unborn.

    We Want Civil Rights for the Unborn! Now!

  • Wed May 28, 2008 12:57 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I think I first heard it on SBC radio network news. It was at the recent controversial meeting at Wheaton College where Jim Wallis compared Obama to Wilberforce. I 'googled' it just now and found the quote on the fourth link down written by Joseph Farah of WND who is quick to point out failures on both sides of the political isle. He quotes Wallis saying:

    "William Wilberforce was a young Barack Obama type."

    (Wallis at Wheaton College address)

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=59111

    http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080220/31259_Anti-Gay_Group_Criticizes_Wheaton_College_Speaker.htm

  • Tue May 27, 2008 8:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    seedplanter: I just Googled it and couldn't find it. Would you provide a couple of links to mainstream articles where Wallis compares Obama to Wilberforce?

  • Tue May 27, 2008 3:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    I hope I don't disapoint you if I respond by saying, thank God I have never even had the desire.

    After clarifying that, I must say that Jim Wallis is the one who made this an issue. If you are unfamiliar with that just google it. He has stated that Obama is comparable to William Wilberforce because of his stand for homosexual rights.

  • Tue May 27, 2008 12:47 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Can manpleaser be banned due to all the spam that he/she posts?

  • Tue May 27, 2008 12:00 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

    squeakywheel: Jim has not been a mouthpiece for either party (he's been critical of both parties) but I'll happily say, how about the repuglican party nudge closer to greater social justice for the already born?

  • Tue May 27, 2008 11:58 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    seedplanter: Are you a homosexual? I'm curious because you seem obsessed with the issue. Wallis to my knowledge has been very careful not to jump into the fray on the issue of homosexuality - so why are you so quick to jump into it?

  • Tue May 27, 2008 12:25 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Jim Wallis' credibility is in question when he serves as the political mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. How about nudging the Dems closer towards greater social justice for the unborn?

  • Mon May 26, 2008 10:29 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    “…atheism is morally neutral, just like belief in God. Secular Humanism encourages good morals, unlike much of Christianity.”

    Atheism is morally bankrupt borrowing from Christianity virtues such as compassion and self-sacrifice. Beyond BC ‘conquest’ was the heroic attribute of the day. Mother Teresa, Mark Buntain, William Wilberforce, William Carey, etc. were suffering from a lack of psychological balance for serving others to the detriment of there own physical well being throwing there personal pursuit of pleasure out the door. What became known as humanism was originally derived from a Christian worldview, later being utilized as a pursuit for social benefits devoid altogether of God and outright implying atheism – Secular Humanism.

    (flagged myself for correction)

  • Mon May 26, 2008 6:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    "Chalke also told Christians that they have nothing to fear from new atheists like Richard Dawkins, author of the God Delusion, saying the fact that Dawkins recently identified himself as a 'cultural Christian' was tantamount to an admission that atheism is morally bankrupt."
    No, Einstein, atheism is morally neutral, just like belief in God. Secular Humanism encourages good morals, unlike much of Christianity. Remember, Jesus himself condoned slavery.

  • Mon May 26, 2008 12:06 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 1

    Should Read:

    Jim Wallis: Neo-Christian Progressive Power Grab through Political Double Talk


    Contrary to Wallis’ delusions of grandeur, Obama’s quest for homosexual special rights has nothing in common with William Wilberforce’s work in the British Parliament to put an end to the slave trade.

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