Colo. Amendment to Give Rights to Unborn

By Aaron Leichman|Christian Post Reporter

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In what would be the first such measure in the history of the United States, a pro-life group in Colorado has successfully submitted a referendum that would give equal legal status to the unborn.

The constitutional amendment, which reads, "The term 'person' or 'persons' shall include any human being from the moment of conception,” would successfully outlaw abortion throughout the entire state if a majority of voters vote positively on the amendment when they go to the polls this November.

Colorado for Equal Rights, which helped gather over 130,000 signatures to qualify the referendum on this year’s ballot, praised the initiative as victory for human life.

“We are giving Colorado voters an opportunity to vote their conscience and protect the most innocent and helpless ones among us. If life is protected from the very beginning, Colorado for Equal Rights believes that we can transform our nation from a culture of death into a culture of life,” the group said.

A key part of the amendment, the group emphasized, would give all unborn persons from conception the “inalienable rights” of “enjoying and defending their lives and liberties.”

"All humans should be protected by love and by law, and this amendment is a historic effort to ensure equal rights for every person," explained Kristi Burton of Colorado for Equal Rights.

The success of the ballot initiative has also recently encouraged pro-life groups in Montana to begin gathering signatures to push a similar measure of their own.

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Prophet »

Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:39 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

Que,

The answer to your question is simple......MONEY. They don't care what your reason is. They don't care if you enjoy getting pregnant and aborting babies for the fun of it...as long as they get paid. It was never about providing a legitimate service. And actually Planned Parenthoods beginnings are rooted in genocide. They were originally created as a way to "control" the "non-caucasian" (specifically the Afro-Americans) population. Study it. Did any of you hear about the uproar that was caused about 6 months ago when a college newspaper reporter went under cover and called the PP and asked to make a donation....as long as it was used to abort an African-American baby because he didn't agree with affirmative action and wanted less "blacks" taking away his son's scholarships. Of course he was just posing, but PP didnt know that...and they were excited about his reasons. I heard clips of the phone call between him and the PP. It was morally disgusting. And PP gets like 2/3 of their support from OUR TAXES!
Oy...this country is going down the toilet....and fast.
Quecat »

Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:46 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

Shrdlu
It's moral relativism at it's sickest that would say...
Allowing the killing of 1.2 million babies per year as a method of back-up contraception, is justified for the sake of the other approx 100,000 that "might" be medically necessary.

If the pro-abortion crowd was really so concerned about keeping ONLY the "medically necessary" abortions legal, why do they fight so hard to keep ALL abortion legal?

1.2 million babies per year are being murdered for no other reason than people being irresponsible and selfish.

That is sick!
Quecat »

Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:34 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

REPOSTING a post that was deleted by people who don't want the truth to be told...

Shrd..
You're sure full of a whole lot of what-if's, aren't you?
Don't you just love it how the pro-abortion folks trot out all these rare occurrences - "life of the mother", etc. as justification for the continuation of abortion on demand?
Ever wonder where the numbers fall?
Less than 7% of abortive mothers claimed (real or imaginary) health concerns, and only 1/2 of 1 percent were due to rape. All other reasons given??: inconvenient to have a child at this time, birth control method failed, don't wish to have a child with my current "partner", conflicts with my career, concealing an illicit relationship, etc.
Meaning over 90% of the 1,310,000 children murdered by their mothers each year died because they were considered to be nothing more than an inconvenience or embarrassment.
THERE is your "incredible, evil, arrogance!"
As for your comment regarding 'women can’t abort a 7 month pregnancy just on mere whim".
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with "Dr." Tiller who has been the scourge of Wichita, Kansas for years, who regularly and casually performs such procedures for women who come to him from across the entire U.S. to receive services that no one else will provide. To quote this disgusting man: "If the baby is born alive, that is sloppy medicine."

"George Tiller, who currently faces 19 criminal charges for performing illegal late-term abortions in Kansas, was caught on hidden tape admitting that he has performed abortions as close as one day before the mother's delivery date."
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080322/31619_Late-Term_Abortionist_Admits_to_Aborting_1_Day_Before_Delivery.htm
Prophet »

Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:22 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

"false prophet"....funny. Coming from a pagan I'll take if for what it's worth.
Prophet »

Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:50 pm Agree: 1 Disagree: 0

Eyewitness testimonies from former abortion clinic nurses who would find numerous "aborted" fetuses which weren't dead yet, but were quivering and shaking through ther death throes as they lay in a disposal can. Nope. That's not cruel.
Shrdlu42 »

Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:03 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 1

[False] Prophet on June 05, 2008 @ 4:33 pm: “I would have to say that abortion is much like the Nazi extermination of the Jews.”

Re-read my post on June 04, 2008 @ 7:59 pm, and tell me where or how Planned Parenthood (and women seeking abortion) come even close to the sadism and cruelty of the Nazis I described. The latter enjoyed their killing, and got their jolliest from it. Is there anyone who truly believes (let alone can prove) that Planned Parenthood enjoys providing abortions, that women enjoy undergoing them, that abortions are performed merely for the “pleasure” of “murdering a child”?

Here’s another example (one I tried to avoid). Another little game of the Nazis was raping Jewish women in the camps in order to get them pregnant. Oh, they’d allow the pregnancy to continue to term - that was the whole point. Then, when the woman commenced labor, she was stripped naked, tied to a metal table, and had her ankles, knees, and thighs bound together with heavy leather straps. The result of course is that mother and child died in hideous agony, the baby’s body crushed against the mother’s by the labor contractions. A process to produce life perverted into an instrument of death. And the Nazis who did this? They were watching, on comfortable couches and chairs, eating popcorn, relishing the screams, and jacking off!

Enough with the comparisons to the Holocaust. They are a vile and evil lie, and anyone who makes them is evil!
Shrdlu42 »

Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:48 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 1

Quecat on June 05, 2008 @ 1:41 pm, asked: "Don't you just love it how the pro-abortion folks trot out all these rare occurrences - ‘life of the mother’, etc. as justification for the continuation of abortion on demand?"

And don't you just love how the anti-choice folks trot out First Trimester cases and scream "abortion on demand" to justify their extremist position?

Quecat, re-read the article we are posting about. It would ban ALL abortions, not just First Trimester ones, not just "abortions on a whim". Had the proposed amendment included an exception for the life and health of the mother, if it weighed the life and life expectancy of the "baby" against the harm caused to the mother by carrying the pregnancy to term, in short if it had any connection to reality (rather than the ideological blindness you demonstrate) I probably wouldn't have written at all.

But no, it imposes an absolute 100% ban, and that is arrogant and evil! (So is your deliberate attempt to raise red-herrings in reply.)

As for Dr. Tiller, I note that the "criminal charges" against him are all misdemeanors, the lowest level of a criminal charge, not exactly in the same category as first-degree murder. Moreover, the "crime" in question is based on a technicality (did he obtain a second opinion before performing abortions from a truly independent doctor, or from someone he had a financial relationship with), one that is disputable - at best. Indeed, this is apparently the second time these charges were brought, the first time they were thrown out. So, let’s wait till final judgment is rendered, shall we?

Why not look at the Doctor’s website and the circumstances under which late term abortions are performed. For example, the first listed is Anencepahly - a condition described by Merck’s Manual (p. 2222, 7th edition) as “incompatible with life”. In short, “babies” with this condition won’t survive. I see no reason to ban abortions in such cases (even “as close as one day before the mother's delivery date") if doing so would endanger the mother.
Prophet »

Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:33 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

I would have to say that abortion is much like the Nazi extermination of the Jews. Abortionist say that "we're just being merciful to the unborn child...why bring a child into a world like this with parents on welfare...etc, etc, lie, lie, lie...." For planned parenthood its all about money.
So, for the sake of one person's comfort level, another's life is taken.
To think that way would be to think the elderly, and developementally disabled should be disposed of. They are a drain on our economy and have absolutely nothing to offer to our society. Besides, driving behind an old geezer who's driving 25 mph on a street marked for 40mph is a burden on my comfort level.
Quecat »

Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:53 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

It's not without reason that Mr. Tiller's "clinic" in Wichita, KS, was the focal point for Operation Rescue's 1991 “Summer of Mercy” protest.
Quecat »

Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:48 pm Agree: 2 Disagree: 0

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080410/31886_Prominent_Abortionist_Attempts_to_Block_Legal_Proceedings_.htm
Quecat »

Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:41 pm Agree: 2 Disagree: 0

Shrd..
You're sure full of a whole lot of what-if's, aren't you?
Don't you just love it how the pro-abortion folks trot out all these rare occurrences - "life of the mother", etc. as justification for the continuation of abortion on demand?
Ever wonder where the numbers fall?
Less than 7% of abortive mothers claimed (real or imaginary) health concerns, and only 1/2 of 1 percent were due to rape. All other reasons given??: inconvenient to have a child at this time, birth control method failed, don't wish to have a child with my current "partner", conflicts with my career, concealing an illicit relationship, etc.
Meaning over 90% of the 1,310,000 children murdered by their mothers each year died because they were considered to be nothing more than an inconvenience or embarrassment.
THERE is your "incredible, evil, arrogance!"

As for your comment regarding 'women can’t abort a 7 month pregnancy just on mere whim".
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with "Dr." Tiller who has been the scourge of Wichita, Kansas for years, who regularly and casually performs such procedures for women who come to him from across the entire U.S. to receive services that no one else will provide. To quote this disgusting man: "If the baby is born alive, that is sloppy medicine."

"George Tiller, who currently faces 19 criminal charges for performing illegal late-term abortions in Kansas, was caught on hidden tape admitting that he has performed abortions as close as one day before the mother's delivery date."
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080322/31619_Late-Term_Abortionist_Admits_to_Aborting_1_Day_Before_Delivery.htm
Shrdlu42 »

Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:16 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 3

Quecat on Jun 03, 2008 @ 2:55 pm asked: concerning 7 month gestation “Now - what besides the desires of the mother, determines the difference between the child who lives and the child who died? - N O T H I N G.”

WRONG - the Supreme Court declared that after “viability” (when the fetus “presumably has the capability of meaningful life outside the mother’s womb”) the government may forbid abortion “except when it is necessary to preserve the life or health of the mother”. So women can’t abort a 7 month pregnancy just on mere whim.

In you own example the “premmie” obviously was viable. Noticeably absent from your tirade was any discussion of the danger to the mother from continuing the pregnancy. Both factors must be weighed in deciding this issue. It’s much more complicated than just screaming “no abortion from conception”.

What if the 7 month old fetus was severely deformed or damaged, and therefore could not survive (or, at best would live only hours)? What if carrying the pregnancy to term would kill the mother, or severely endanger her life? What if it would leave her permanently injured, in constant pain, infertile? Who are you, or the government, to declare she must take such a risk?

Such incredible, evil, arrogance!
Shrdlu42 »

Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:59 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 4

Patti on Jun 02, 2008 @ 12:07 pm, made the vile, evil, comparison between abortion and the Holocaust, proving her ignorance of both. In fact, it is the so-called ‘pro-life’ crowd who better resemble the Nazis - you want to use the power of government to impose your ideology on others, and make them suffer for it.

How you can compare imprisoning people in concentration camps, torturing them, working them to the breaking point, gassing and then cremating them to allowing a woman to decide for herself what to do with her body, her life, and (yes) with the fetus or embryo in her body is beyond me.

Read “Night” by Elie Wiesel, read history books about the Holocaust to discover precisely what it was about, watch the almost unbearable documentary “Shoah” and realize how wrong you are.

Do you realize that gassing and cremating people was probably the most merciful thing the Nazis did? Did you know that when they were arresting Jews if they found a baby in a crib they would throw if out the window to use as target practice on the way down? Do you know how could describe cruelties and outrages that would make you vomit?

Fall on your knees and beg for forgiveness for uttering that monstrously immoral comparison. Stop worrying about the souls of those humble enough to not arrogate to themselves the power to make decision for others about this issue. Your own soul is in direst jeopardy!
Quecat »

Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:55 pm Agree: 2 Disagree: 0

Yet more evidence that the pro-abortion folk's rhetoric has sunk in deep with some folks....
Now we have even "professed" christians on this board who fail to recognize a child as fully human until such time as he or she is a full-term babe-in-arms.
Sad
Rather amazing isn't it? A pregnant woman at 7 months gestation can go the hospital and deliver a preemie "BABY" and take that "CHILD" home and love it.
and another woman at 7 months gestation can enter the abortion clinic, "terminate" the life growing within her womb and rid herself of a "FETUS".
Now - what besides the desires of the mother, determines the difference between the child who lives and the child who died? - N O T H I N G.
feetxxxl »

Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:46 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

am i to understand that for the sake of control of disease, reduction of pollution, limited govt and national resources, and for the purpose of eliminating poverty abortion is condoned?
feetxxxl »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:07 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

actually according to the numbers @ http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/air/air_vol14no1_20001.html

it would only be 250 t0 300 million abortions which incudes induced. but those numbers are only from 1971(population controls have been around since the 50's) however if you include the progeny of those aborted(since 1971) it would be way over 500 million of those who do not exist because
of population control policies.
feetxxxl »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:44 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 1

you havent mentioned china whose procreation rules have caused 10 times more abortions.

is it your understanding that china would better off, if they had 500 million more people?
tpique1 »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:08 pm Agree: 3 Disagree: 0

Is this not the saddest statement you've ever heard? Why should we even have to do this? How low has our society come that we ACTUALLY have to pass a LAW that defines the unborn as being a life?

"In what would be the first such measure in the history of the United States, a pro-life group in Colorado has successfully submitted a referendum that would give equal legal status to the unborn."
Patti »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:21 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

Hmmmmm. The Nazi's in WWII death camps called the Jews "parasites" too... among other things. There is no way to justify sacrificing 50 million helpless babies to the god of Self.
Patti »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:07 pm Agree: 2 Disagree: 0

I have been studying the WWII Holocaust again. As inherently evil as that was, the world is witnessing another major Holocaust... abortion. And those who promote it are just as coldly indifferent as the Nazis were. In the USA alone, 50,000,000 people have been killed... sort of makes the Nazi's look like choir boys. It's heartbreaking.
feetxxxl »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:12 am Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

The morning-after pill is designed to be taken within 72 hours of intercourse with a second dose taken 12 hours later. Side effects may include nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, fatigue, dizziness, menstrual changes and headache. According to the manufacturer, the morning-after pill is more than 80 percent effective in preventing pregnancy after a single act of unprotected sex.

Morning-after pills aren't the same as mifepristone (Mifeprex), the so-called abortion pill. Emergency contraceptive pills such as Plan B prevent pregnancy. The abortion pill terminates an established pregnancy — one in which the fertilized egg has attached to the uterine wall and has already begun to develop.

Plan B is available to women 18 years and older without a prescription at most pharmacies. Women must show proof of age to purchase Plan B. For women 17 years old and younger, Plan B is available only with a doctor's prescription.

it seems there is a pill out there that will need to be outlawed................with the .possibility of inspection stations etc
feetxxxl »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:00 am Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

you are suggesting now that the death penalty be given to all those associated with an abortion. if a death occurs out of selfishness then those involved should be executed.

radicalism is the same whether it is islamic or christian.
feetxxxl »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:45 am Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

it really makes not sense on how you can give rights to an entity that is in essence has a parasitical relationship to a viable being without including the host as well.
calean007 »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:42 am Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

unless there are protection clauses for the mother the amendment will be thrown out of court. - How do you know this for a fact? States can pretty much do what they want.

and how is colorado going to deal with those who take the morning after pill. will they set inspection stations to prevent the pill from being brought into the state. The morning after pill are for those who've had unprotected sex, but may not necessarily be pregnant. It's to prevent preganancy, not to terminate a pregnancy already in progress.

willl murdering a fetus carry the same penalty as doing the same to an independent living human being? I love how you somehow exalt a person living outside of the womb as somehow "better" and deserving of more rights than a human inside the womb. As to your question, I think the death penalty is good enough for those who knowing abort children in the womb. Abortion is about selfishness plain and simple. People do the deed, but don't want to deal with the responsibility and thus decided to "get rid of the problem." Since abortion is premeditated, then it should carry the same penalty for any premeditated murder. Death.
feetxxxl »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:23 am Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

unless there are protection clauses for the mother the amendment will be thrown out of court.

and how is clorado going to deal with those who take the morning after pill. will they set inspection stations to prevent the pill from being brought into the state.

and what will be the penalty for those who have taken the pill.

willl murdering a fetus carry the same penalty as doing the same to an indepent living human being?
Topekan »

Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:15 am Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

Great news, but if it passes it will be interesting to see what happens once the inevitable challenges make it to SCOTUS.
sertelt »

Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:02 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

More on this story at http://www.lifenews.com/state3276b.html
Tallguy1000 »

Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:14 pm Agree: 3 Disagree: 0

AMEN! This is the best news I've ever heard! God is alive and well, and the millions of prayers that have been prayed for this are being answered. By the grace of God, abortion will be eradicated! Keep it up brothers and sisters.....

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