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Society|Thu, Jun. 26 2008 04:50 PM EDT

Study: Evangelicals Lesser Known than Homosexuals

By Audrey Barrick|Christian Post Reporter

The Ellison study also measured Americans' acquaintances with other types of people, including those of another ethnic background and persons in a different political party.

Among non-white Americans, 92 percent currently know a white person very well. Among non-blacks, 68 percent know a black person very well. And among non-Latinos, 72 percent know a Latino individual very well. Only 44 percent know an Asian person very well and the numbers are similar for American Indians and for Jews.

The study additionally showed that many Americans are not acquainted with those on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Less than half (47 percent) of Americans who are not politically conservative say they know someone who is, and 24 percent have never known a conservative. Also, only 42 percent of adults who do not call themselves politically liberal know a liberal person and 25 percent have never known one.

Further looking into the relationships of conservatives and liberals, Sellers found the similarities more striking than the differences.

"Yes, conservatives are more likely to know a born again Christian, but two-thirds of liberals also know one at least casually," he said. "And yes, liberals are more likely to know a gay or lesbian person, but two-thirds of conservatives also know one at least casually. Liberals and conservatives may have very different worldviews, but the relationships they maintain aren’t really all that different, despite the stereotypes.”

Findings from the study, which was conducted on 1,007 adults, can be interpreted either positively or negatively, Sellers commented.

"On the positive side, the study shows the vast majority of Americans know someone of a different racial or ethnic background very well, and many also know people of different religious or political viewpoints," he stated.

"On the negative side, there are plenty of types of people many Americans have really never encountered. Four out of ten have never known – even casually – someone who has experienced homelessness. A third have never known an evangelical or a Mormon. Almost half have never known a Muslim. One out of five has never known an American Indian. One out of every four liberals has never known a conservative, and vice versa. Not knowing a variety of people has implications for how we live our lives and how we think of others."

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  • Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Oooooo - scitz a likes lina...scitz a likes lina ... I'm tell'n.

  • Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Lina, I read your posts and its as if I am reading my own. I have many of the same thoughts on religion.

  • Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:05 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    In rereading over recent posts, if anyone's need re-posting, it's Lina's. She may not be an "acceptable Christian" for many on this Web site, but Christians need to seriously consider the points lina makes. Here are two.

    Lina’s comments from 7/2/08:
    And Prophet - I find it no substance in the Bible. Just orders. Like the Koran. An attempt to control the masses. It works for you. Great. Not for me. There is just no enough evidence for the claims of the Bible. There is much evidence in the works of Darwin, Einstein, and Watson (at least to me). The direction of our species has seemingly been heading in the right direction but at the expense of religion. Religion only comes to terms with scientific evidence stubbornly and often by conveniently reinterpreting its own texts to fit the new realities - essentially to save its own skin and retain a shred of legitimacy. Think of the world we're in. Evangelicals are obsessed with pro-life, anti-gay, anti-stem cell research, pro-Israel anti-diplomacy, anti-science issues (evolution, contraception, vaccination against HPV). They seemingly believe that failing to support these initiatives will bring out the end of the World. Can you think of anything more delusional? What 2 mature adults do naked in the privacy of their own home trumping fighting poverty? Consequently, not only do I find religious belief delusional, but harmful. That's why it should be privatized. The secular world doesn't need your picketing, your whining, your end-of-Western-Civilization-as-we-know-it doomsday scenarios. We don't need to be reminded of God's word or the Rapture. Not only do I know your texts well, I freely disbelieve in them.

    and

    I'll never get this. I will never understand god's purpose/need/want for creating a universe he will destroy, and so many billions of people, most of whom will burn in hell forever. Considering the vast amount of unbiased research conducted by the secular world, for the benefit of all humanity, religion has, in my eyes, been severely weakened; almost to the point of absolute dismissal. I really dislike the requirement for morality the religious ascribe to their texts. The world is less violent today because of the increasing absence of religion. That is obvious. Let's just take God out of the equation and privatizing him. There is no hope in weaving together the diverse beliefs of 6 billion into one universal religion. Muslims, Jews, and Hindus believe as strongly in their god(s) as you all do. So much so, they fear your afterlife. At one point do you say: I just have faith in my religion. I don't need to bark orders at anyone else. My faith has done little for the benefit of humanity (perhaps only for me in that provides me solace in the face of impending death). Humanity has been the only real driver of beneficial change. That is a fact.

  • Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Please, I beg of you all, dont boycott McD, They have good coffee and I am a rather large stock holder......LOL

  • Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    rolln writes: "We can also boycott McDonalds http://www.boycottmcdonalds.com/

    The Mac Attack just attacked our family and faith."

    McDonald's USA spokesman Bill Whitman said, "Hatred has no place in our culture."

    Who's right? I do know that I hate McDonald's hamburgers.

  • Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, you wrote:

    "Daniel,
    You said '...you have to do the right things and trust there is a good greater than yourself or your own personal interests.'

    "Amen. Unfortunately, most people don't believe in any greater good than themselves. That's the position this world has gotten intself into."

    Prophet, hasn't the world ALWAYS been in this position? I remember finding out what low percentages of colonial Americans identified with any church. Of course, this does not mean that they might not have studied their Bibles at home.

  • Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:57 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Then if heaven is all around us, as you pointed out, then some of these people walking around are dead?
    And if heaven is a physical place, God is physical, and so are angels. And if God is physical, He cannot be everywhere at once. And if He is physical, then the Bible is wrong when it says that God is spirit. And if angels are physical, how come we can't see them. And if angels are physical, then demons must be physical. And if demons are physical, then why can't we see them as well? And if heaven is physical, why doesn't our body go there when we die. I've been to a lot of funerals, and each one had a body. And if heaven is physical, of what purpose is our spirit?

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet-

    The scripture says that Jesus ascended body and soul into heaven. Therefore it must be physical.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    We can also boycott McDonalds http://www.boycottmcdonalds.com/

    The Mac Attack just attacked our family and faith.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel,
    You said "...you have to do the right things and trust there is a good greater than yourself or your own personal interests."
    Amen. Unfortunately, most people don't believe in any greater good than themselves. That's the position this world has gotten intself into.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Why did God WANT to create a universe HE KNEW he would ultimtely destroy."

    Why do people produce things they know will eventually wear out?

    Why do people form rock bands when they know only a small % actually last?

    There are many expensive products which result in much waste to produce. We value the product and simply accept the waste as what is required to produce the product. The idea is to be on the product side of the equation and not the waste end.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Ok try this one! Were I to havea choild if I knew it was going to hell? Well, if I knew it was going to hell, then I know God already must have indicated I have the child. I would follow God's command to have the child for God uses all things for good, even a child destined for hell. He may go to hel but he may save the life of an individual who ends up leading several sinners to Christ

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    At the foot of the cross all sin is equal. So yes a homosexual is the same as a thief or a murderer. the argument that I was made that way is true. The fall of man in the garden of Eden made all of us sinners from the day we were born. To say that homosexuality is a choice is also true. We are directed to take up our cross daily to follow Him. Is it any easier for an adulterer, rapsist, thief to take up thier cross more so than a homosexual? the answer is no, but we expect them too. God gave us whoo accept the saving grace of Jesus all the same ability equally to fight our fleshly desires. so yes you were born with the desire to sin(homosexuality) just as the thief is. Is it a choice you make each time. Yes it is. God said no man has a problem that hasn't been had before and defeated

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    To further explain (or muddy the water)....

    I have a son in the Army. Sometimes people are selected to die.... They might not but their death may save tens or tens of thousands. It may not do any good at all. Still, you have to do the right things and trust there is a good greater than yourself or your own personal interests.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:46 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Daniel Paul: Would you have had one of your children if you had known that child was going to go to hell when it died?"

    OK...this question is based on an underlying question. Is God fair and just? I have pondered the concept of if young children go to heaven and the like. This is the question I was left with for all those types of questions. Please ponder what I am about to post before responding.

    I believe that God IS fair and just. I believe no one goes to hell that doesn't deserve to be there. I also believe that children are a gift from the Lord. I do believe I as a parent am responsible for teaching them correctly. I am to be a good steward of my children.

    With that said, I would have any child God gave to me. The question is one of free will. God is not responsible for our choices simply because He has allowed us to have a choice in the first place. Without that choice we could do no wrong and therefore our existance would be moot. Because children have a free will it is required of parents to respect and do their best to shape that will. However, parents are not responsible for the choices the child makes and it would be disrespectful of parents to deny a child the right to choose for themseves as adults. (This is why I disagree with abortion. It denies the child the right to choose for themselves if they will live or die.)

    So, yes I would simply because I believe God is fair and just. Therefore, He has a reason for everything even if I don't like it.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:31 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    lina---I don't doubt you don't understand. We do not have a common frame of ref. One of the thinks I had to learn when discussing religion and phylos. was that each person has their own basis of understanding.

    You don't believe in a relationship with God. I do. Neither position is correct based on us or our understanding. The correctness of the position is based on the existance of God.

    People believed the Earth was flat for quite some time. That didn't keep it from being so. Popular science is giving evidence of a really bad flood and is saying it was caused by a meteor. The Bible talks about a flood and did so thousands of years ago.

    Care to discuss quantum physics? Just because I do not agree with the theory doesn't keep me from wanting to understand the concept.

    Simply put... it is far easier for you to not take my position seriously than it is for you to understand it.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Jesus needs to be known more than anything. He is the way. He is the truth. He is the life. Today, we have too many confessing Christians that know...

    More about the T.V. guide than the bible
    More about their favorite movie star than Jesus Christ
    More about their vision than the heavenly vision
    More about going to a church than being a live member in the Church
    More about walking in the flesh than in the Spirit
    More about vain traditions and rituals than life in the Spirit
    More about dressing like harlots than dressing in modesty
    More about play than pray

    People must see Jesus, and for them to see Jesus in us, we must come to our own finality, saying, "He must increase, but I must decrease" (John 3:30) and "That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death" (Phil 3:10).

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    rolln4him,

    I encountered the same opposition over "Holiday Party". I made a stink about it and got threatened with termination.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:16 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    LOL. That timeless adage "Curiosity killed the cat." LOL. I try not to let curiosity get the best of me, unless it's something I've introduced, not something someone else introduced. I knew that diogenes was trying to use a question of entrapment, and not only that, it really was an inane question. Why not ask "If I knew that heaven and hell were real and that I was never going to go to heaven, would I kill myself?" Foolish questions.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:53 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    prophet, this is kind of weird I was going to make that same statement in my response back, about the rock thing, but I guess I am just a curious kind of guy, after all I did agree to take the Biggie Challenge. He never did tell me if I passed or not?!

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    And to answer diogenes' question.
    I don't waste my time with foolish questions (as the Bible says we shouldn't). If thought there was even a remote chance that I could know that my child were going to hell, then I would probably hazard an answer. That question is right up there witht the age old question "If God can do anything, can He make a rock so big that He couldn't move it?"
    Foolish questions from a foolish mind.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    tliml,
    And why have you suddenly changed your view of heaven?

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    tliml,
    Please reference the scripture to back your argument

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:08 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    jj, just for curiousity's sake let me answer your question, if I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt I would bring a child into this world who was predestined by God to go to hell no matter what, no I would not have that child.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:05 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    By the way, Prophet, I went to a Protestant service and I kind of liked it. The overdone orchestra was quite entertaining. And I just loved your spin on kareoke with the large screens with words on them and a red dot that helps you follow along.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:00 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet-

    As I remember you had trouple with a yes or no as well. Well I worked hard on a long answer but it was deleted so here is a short one. It doesn't matter where heaven is, but it is physical. Perhaps it is in another dimension. I don't know. But the bible says it is physical.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:34 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hi lima,
    I wonder have you ever wondered where your rationality comes from. Do you believe that thought that arises as an artifact of arbitrary and non rational natural processes and be trusted as rational.
    Also have you ever wondered why you care enough about this to engage in these posts. I mean if nature is all there is and all of our actions (and thoughts) are byproducts of behavioral traits that have species survival advantage then who cares about this whole debate. I mean unless this kind of conversation is supportive of increasing your reproductive opportunities isn't it evolutionarily maladaptive behavior. Don't get me wrong I believe in the scientific method and that the theory of evolution is valid its just not all I believe.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    jj,
    we could say the same thing to you. "What are you talking about? I'm not following where you're going with that?"

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    There is no dodge. There was simple honesty.

    I CAN tell you I know someone who loves people so much that He sent His Son to be born, suffer and die to allow people to come live with Him. Would you like to meet Him? I could introduce you two.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Quit avoiding the question. It's a simple "yes" or "no". How hard can it be?

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Answer the question already . . . or are you afraid of the implications?

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet: What are you talking about? I'm not following where you're going with that?

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    diogenes,
    Have you stopped beating your wife?

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    wb, prophet and believer: Don't dodge the question; answer it. Would you have a child knowing that positively it was going to hell?

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The closest I can say is I have had four, knowing that all four of them COULD go to hell.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    It's impossible to answer since the scenario is an impossible scenario to begin with.
    We don't know whether our children are going to hell or not. Just as we don't know if we'll live to see tomorrow.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    jj, in response to your rather say what question, would you?

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Amazing........

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I take it that means none of you would?

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Shhhhhh.....they think they're the only one's in here.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I thought we had some already here.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    TA-DA!!!
    And just like that, a post-modernists shows up.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel Paul: Would you have had one of your children if you had known that child was going to go to hell when it died?

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    lina,
    Therein lies the problem. As passe as it sounds it's still true: True Christianity is about a relationship, not a religion. Until you truly have a relationship with God, you will never get it.
    You see, you don't have to abide by all the "rules" in order to become a Christian. When I became a Christian I didn't immediatly quit sinning. I didn't even desire to relenquish most of my sinful habits. God understood. But as I deepened my relationship with God I found myself WANTING to give up these habits.

    Religion= "I have to!"
    Christianity= "I want to!"

    I don't know if that sheds any light on the subject, but I sure hope it does.

  • lina »
    Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I mean Daniel Paul - I'm sorry but when you say things like : "The concept of religion was developed to substitute for the relationship man lost in the garden." I just can't take you seriously. Considering all the absurd creation stories across all major religions, it is just unbelievable to me that actual adults can believe that story actually happened. I'm mean..really? You think this happened? It's mind-boggling.

  • lina »
    Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    And yes HL - I am a woman! A free-thinking woman whose beliefs are not pre-determined, pre-provided, or pre-set. I think with my head and use logic to justify my beliefs. As such, they are malleable and adjustable to new evidence. I would love to live in a world where everyone had such flexibility of thought.

  • lina »
    Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    And Prophet - I find it no substance in the Bible. Just orders. Like the Koran. An attempt to control the masses. It works for you. Great. Not for me. There is just no enough evidence for the claims of the Bible. There is much evidence in the works of Darwin, Einstein, and Watson (at least to me). The direction of our species has seemingly been heading in the right direction but at the expense of religion. Religion only comes to terms with scientific evidence stubbornly and often by conveniently reinterpreting its own texts to fit the new realities - essentially to save its own skin and retain a shred of legitimacy. Think of the world we're in. Evangelicals are obsessed with pro-life, anti-gay, anti-stem cell research, pro-Israel anti-diplomacy, anti-science issues (evolution, contraception, vaccination against HPV). They seemingly believe that failing to support these initiatives will bring out the end of the World. Can you think of anything more delusional? What 2 mature adults do naked in the privacy of their own home trumping fighting poverty? Consequently, not only do I find religious belief delusional, but harmful. That's why it should be privatized. The secular world doesn't need your picketing, your whining, your end-of-Western-Civilization-as-we-know-it doomsday scenarios. We don't need to be reminded of God's word or the Rapture. Not only do I know your texts well, I freely disbelieve in them.

  • lina »
    Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'll never get this. I will never understand god's purpose/need/want for creating a universe he will destroy, and so many billions of people, most of whom will burn in hell forever. Considering the vast amount of unbiased research conducted by the secular world, for the benefit of all humanity, religion has, in my eyes, been severely weakened; almost to the point of absolute dismissal. I really dislike the requirement for morality the religious ascribe to their texts. The world is less violent today because of the increasing absence of religion. That is obvious. Let's just take God out of the equation and privatizing him. There is no hope in weaving together the diverse beliefs of 6 billion into one universal religion. Muslims, Jews, and Hindus believe as strongly in their god(s) as you all do. So much so, they fear your afterlife. At one point do you say: I just have faith in my religion. I don't need to bark orders at anyone else. My faith has done little for the benefit of humanity (perhaps only for me in that provides me solace in the face of impending death). Humanity has been the only real driver of beneficial change. That is a fact.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I grew up with a good, stong and loving father. Maybe that is one reason I have never "worried" about my heavenly father. I guess I am one of the people who (I hope not mistakenly) believes that "the Universe is unfolding as it should."

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    lina- It really is so simplistic that many just miss it. God calls himself our Father. I have children. They range in age from 25 down to 2 (if you don't keep having kids you have to mow your own lawn when you get old... ). I don't 'crave groveling' from them. I'm their father and I love them. I want what's best for them. I want a good relationship with them.

    Many of the parables in the Gospels is about how a good father loves his children used as an example of God the Father. Every dad wants to be loved and respected by his children. So does God.

    The main problem is those who have not had much of an example when it comes to what a father is suppose to be like. People transfer the image of their dad onto God. My dad was not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and he would be the first to say so. Still, he was and is a good dad. Yet, I still had to look to the Bible for the true definition of what God the Father was like.

    There are two sides of God that we see in the Bible. The Old Testament shows how God the Father is when we are not in a right relationship with Him. The New Testament shows how God the Father is when we ARE in a right relationship with Him. This is why a child who accepts the authority of their dad has a WAY better impression of their dad than someone who is constantly rebelling against him.

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