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Church|Tue, Jul. 01 2008 04:05 PM EDT

Megachurch Sets Record Straight on Recalibrating

By Lillian Kwon|Christian Post Reporter

The Reveal study is not about Willow, church leaders have clarified. Rather, the findings are based on 30 churches besides Willow – that aren't Willow clones. And since the release of the findings last year, over 500 churches and half a million congregants have undergone the study.

The purpose of the Reveal study is to find out what is really happening in the lives of people attending churches today. It identifies a spiritual continuum where church attendees are categorized in four different stages of spiritual development: Exploring Christ, Growing in Christ, Close to Christ and Christ-Centered. Furthermore, it reveals insights about what helps people move along the spiritual journey.

"We want to see movement," Beach said. "We don't want anyone stuck."

The study found that many churches, while effective in helping those in the first stage of their spiritual journey move to the next, have trouble getting the more mature believers to move from the Close to Christ stage to a Christ-centered life.

At Willow, two out of every 10 are Exploring Christianity; three out of every 10 are Growing in Christ; three out of every 10 are Close to Christ; and two out of every 10 are Christ-centered.

No matter where people said they are in their spiritual journey, it is the church's job to challenge them to grow and to provide them the tools to advance acceleration," said Greg L. Hawkins, executive pastor of Willow Creek Community Church and co-author of the Reveal book.

As the church recalibrates, Willow Creek is still developing how to conduct their weekend worship services in a way that will be "catalytic" to all attendees, from seekers to mature believers.

Hybels noted that seekers have changed over the last three decades. While in the 1970s, seekers were passive, put off by spiritual conversation, and wanted a service that was presented to them, seekers in the 21st century are open to spiritual conversation and to participating in worship services.

Thus, Willow is now finding ways for seekers to participate in worship and to be connected, as Marshall Shelley, editor of Leadership journal reported. "Now we understand that Willow is as seeker-focused as ever, but the definition of 'seeker service' is changing," Shelley stated.

The Reveal Spiritual Life Survey will be launched for all churches to use as a resource. A new book, titled Follow Me: What's Next for You? , was released to expand on initial findings and describe the spiritual catalysts most influential to moving people on the spiritual continuum. The findings in Follow Me are based on input from 80,000 surveys completed by people in more than 200 congregations.

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  • Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "This is what seeker-sensitive really is."

    Nope...foul ball. The basis of both Saddleback and Willow Creek is that Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father and we have no hope in this life without Jesus.

    Go check the statement of beliefs.....

  • Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    This is actually a VERY good sign. Our church is a merge of two models-Saddleback and Willow Creek. The goal is to get the baby Christians to a point where they want more than just milk (milk is just about all most of America can stomach now-days). So, to have a large group of people who WANT spiritual steak is a really healthy sign!

    One thing that many people do not consider is that their 'mature church' is made up of only a couple hunderd at best on average. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands across the country fall through the cracks.

    Groups like Saddleback and Willow Creek have simply recognized that America is a mission field too.

  • Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "which is the "find a need and fill it" approach to sales"

    Isn't that exactly what Jesus did?

  • Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:14 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    JHS
    You have said....
    "....the rest of this is big business and frankly is doing more harm to this country than good."

    I would not be so concerned with the effect that it has on the overall country.

    Our focus is on taking care of our own, those who have already made the decision for Christ who could become misguided.

    The rest of the country, and world, will watch and learn.

  • Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:13 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Unfortunately, I think the whole Mega church deal is flawed from the ground up.

    It's pretty hard to hold people accountable when there are 20,000 faces that surround you. Sure there are small groups that get to know each other, but that makes only a small difference. A pastor comes in to meet and greet the group - so what? Where's the accountability in that?

    A church ought to be small enough that people can get to know everyone, and the pastor(s). This leads to accountability.

  • Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:41 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Dr. Hybels staff has been very straight forward when I make inquiries about something. If we have a problem, we need to go to our brother we have the problem with. Willow Creek Community Church will tell you they are not flawless. Neither am I. I can give Willow Creek a good report. Thank you Dr. Hybels for your Pastor Care Pastor's quick reply to inquiries I have made. I am impressed. I did not know the whole counsel of a situation and your Pastor Care Pastor set the record straight.

  • Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:35 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I want a church like that, James.

  • Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:34 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I applaud Mr. Hybels for his passion for the lost, but not his continued marketing approach (which is the "find a need and fill it" approach to sales). Our faith is about growing to love God more and not about progressing through "steps" as if this was a training course to make me a better person.

    And that is part of the problem with using marketing - it is customer driven and consumer focused. If our faith is about giving up our selves for Christ, about finding Him in both our sufferings and joy, then shouldn't the focus be on Him and Him glorified, not on me and me growing?

    Until Willow and other seeker sensitive churches move to seeking Him glorified and honored a praised above all, even self, then it will continue to struggle with discipling. The need to look at what type of soil they are as they sow.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    For me - growing is a by product of GOING.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:42 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Christians must realize that personal growth in God's Word is going to take longer than a one-hour dose at services. Bravo to the church that encourages Bible study, and to Christians who have developed their own times for Bible study and meditation.
    The big problem with this is, no matter how strong the encouragement, there are many in church circles who sincerely think that one-hour a week is all it takes! Lord Jesus, help to open our eyes to Your truth.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:48 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 2

    My church is a bible teaching church. Our sermons are straight from the bible. the complete text studied is read before the sermon starts and the message is backed by what is in the text. No one verse 2 hour sermon tooken out of context. We also have core bible study classes on wedenesday instead of service. I love it. The more I understand God's words, the more I know I must vote against Obama. His views are outrageous, and the Sermon on the mount was awesome. More churches need to give more attention to the soul of believers as well as professing thier faith to nonbelievers

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:51 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    SolaScriptura-

    Amen, brother (or sister).

  • JHS »
    Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:01 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 7

    Welcome to todays evangelical big business christianity, whether it's Fundamentalist John Macarthur or Schuller, Swindoll, Copeland etc, except for maybe Warren who gave away 90% of his money, the rest of this is big business and frankly is doing more harm to this country than good.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:52 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Sounds to me like some of these other comments here are people with "church size envy".
    One love, one God, One Way.

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:49 am Agree: 13   Disagree: 8

    Nobody should buy this PR gimmick from Hybels. He and Warren and the Schullerites are responsible for the 57% of So called Evangelical Christians (in last week's Pew Research Poll) who denied Christ as the ONLY True Way to heaven!! This is what seeker-sensitive really is.

    And to show how "serious" Hybels is about making his Cross-less "church" more "Christlike", he had that 'great classical theologian' Brian MacLaren do the WillowCreeek Youth Conference this past March in Barrington!!

    Yes! That will really disciple the next generation to Christ!! Not just MacLaren was there, but Dan Kimball and the entire usual suspects who are emerging into darkness.

    So, pardon me, Doc, I ain't buying nothing from these guys.
    God bless!!
    HAPPY JULY 4TH!

  • Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:15 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Grace & Peace

  • Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:28 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 4

    Willow Creek just discovered that teaching the Bible to people gives them spiritual depth - this is truly a shocking revelation - I am glad they did research and surveys to find this out.

  • Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The church needs to show greater responsibility for the souls God has already brought into the Kingdom.

    Helping to feed the poor and needy is nice, but helping to feed souls is greater.

    Man shall not live by bread alone.

    I'm glad Willow Creek is responding to this message.

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