The American Family Association is asking its two million supporters to boycott popular fast food chain McDonald’s for its promotion of the homosexual agenda, which the group says includes same-sex "marriage."
McDonald's drew fire from AFA several months ago when the chain joined as a corporate partner of the National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC), an organization “dedicated to expanding the economic opportunities and advancements of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender/Transsexual (LGBT) business community.”
The pro-family group also cried foul when after a $20,000 donation, the fast-food giant's VP of Communications, who is openly homosexual, was seated on the Chamber's board of directors.
The company rebuffed requests by AFA to remove its name and logo from the NGLCC Web site and drop the endorsement of the organization by the VP of Communications.
In an announcement on its website Wednesday, AFA asked "supporters to boycott the restaurant chain," noting that NGLCC lobbies Congress on same-sex “marriage.”
“This boycott is not about hiring homosexuals, or homosexuals eating at McDonald’s or how homosexual employees are treated," stressed AFA chairman and founder Donald E. Wildmon. "It is about McDonald’s, as a corporation, choosing to put the full weight of their corporation behind promoting the homosexual agenda, including homosexual marriage."
In a letter dated May 29, Pat Harris, Global Chief Diversity Officer and Vice President of Inclusion & Diversity at McDonald’s, told AFA the company would “reaffirm our position on diversity.”
McDonald's also claimed in a statement it was "in no way 'aggressively promoting the homosexual agenda."
AFA responded to the statement saying that "giving money to and partnering with a homosexual lobby organization is certainly an enthusiastic promotion of the homosexual agenda."
On a website containing details on the boycott, www.boycottmcdonalds.com, AFA posted a YouTube video of a television commercial in which McDonald's sponsored the the 2007 San Francisco Gay Pride parade. In the clip, the food chain stated it was "a company that actively demonstrates its commitment to the gay and lesbian community."
One AFA supporter was perplexed at why the food giant would not champion causes that are noble rather than controversial.
"It could be poverty, hunger, child abuse, there would be no one against your support of these," read the comment. " The unnatural aspect of homosexuality or lesbian practice and the changing of the meaning of 'marriage' to allow same sex marriage are definitely controversial and not in anyone's best interest to support."
AFA announced in March that it was ending a two-year boycott of Ford Motor Co., saying the company had met most of its demands, which included ending donations to groups that support same-sex “marriage.” The organization said it believed its boycott played a significant role in causing Ford sales to drop 8 percent in that period.
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free, no one is saying McDonald's doesn't do good things, but their support of the homosexual agenda is wrong, plus did you look into how much the CEO of McDonald's brings in a year?
According to AFA’s 2005 IRS 990 (its tax return), founder Donald E. Wildmon received about $110,000 with benefits, plus over $30,000 in expense account and other allowances -- including a housing allowance of over $31,000. AFA president Tim Wildmon got about $100,000, and the organization’s secretary, Forrest Daniels, received slightly more than $80,000.
The organization gives ‘scholarships’ to any full time employee at ‘any accredited college or university,’ which added up to about $54,000 in scholarships. As the blog Kevin’s Space pointed out on March 30, “the kids of these people get their university education paid for, with funds that are donated, supposed to fight for the family. But it is clear the people who benefit are the Wildmon family.”
AFA’s tax return also revealed that it paid over $26,000 to Neal Clement (Wildmon’s son-in-law), while at the same time it held stock in a company represented by him, the FSC Securities Corporation. . . . Kevin’s Space [also] reported . . .”Their [AFA’s] 2003 return states that they [held] just over $1.6 million worth of stock in FSC Securities Corporation. They also paid $33,000 to the LTD Computer Services, which is owned and operated by Larry Durham (Wildmon’s brother-in-law). [italics added]
hmart, presently I work with UNITE Pike which is looking to eliminate substance abuse in our county and in two weeks I will be a team leader at Camp UNITE which is for kids whose parents have been busted for drugs and other kids as well. I also serve at a Crisis Pregnancy Center in our area as a volunteer and board member. I am also a member of the Remote Area Medical (RAM) Committee which assists the RAM Team in coming to our area to provide free dental, medical, and optical services to people in our area. I also served as a volunteer during the event. Those are some of the things God has allowed me to do in helping meet the physical needs of people. And if you would like me to tell you some of the things He is allowing me to join Him in meeting the spiritual needs of people I'd be more than happy to.
Believer-I only see in your response is a pronoun game,,,what have YOU done to help enrich, someones life through donation of time/money/aid and volunteerism?? Many christians are spending too much time NOT HELPING their fellowman,,,too busy worrying about someone elses life, and not enough time spent on THEMSELVES, wondering what can be done for self-improvement of self, both spiritually and well-being.
Many unthinking Christians also do not think about the poisonous junk that McDonald's sells as "food." The thinking Christians that I know never go to any fast food outlet, including McDonald's, anyway.
We are not supposed to "hate." But I hate McDonald's (except for their french fries), and I (almost) never go there, anyway. Sign me up for the boycott.
If those of us who will be supporting this boycott are just a handful of Evangelical Christians then why are you who are opposed to this boycott so worried. According to you McDonald's doesn't have a thing to be concerned about. Unless of course you're wrong and there are far more Christians and even non-Christians who are opposed to McDonald's support of the homosexual agenda.
hmart, not only are many Christians involved in meeting physical needs in peoples lives, they are more importantly involved with God in the fulfillment of His Great Commission. And while meeting the physical needs of people is very important meeting the eternal and spiritual needs of people is far more important. A person's physical needs only last for a lifetime, but when and how our spiritual needs are met will determine where one will spend eternity.
"You know, one person's "ewwww" or "ick" is another person's 'soulmate', 'partner', or (gasp) even 'spouse'.
Go ahead and boycott McDonald's. While you're at it, why not boycott Hollywood? Because your "ewwwws" and your "icks" have more to do with what you've grown up seeing on the TV and in the movies than it does with anything that Jesus taught.
Or, you could take a deep breath, decide to stop believing all the scare tactics, and allow the state to grant equality before the law to folks who never bothered you at all.
Whatever "agenda" you fear is in the works, I can tell you I already don't like the current agenda where it's acceptable for folks to hold up their religious beliefs as reason for making my gay friends feel like second-class citizens. You don't have to make them welcome in your churches, you don't have to condone their choices, you can carry on with whatever you think is gonna make the world a better place, but by God, you oughta feel obliged, as Americans, to give them enough benefit of the doubt, when they say they feel they're being treated unfairly by our government, to get off your high horse for a second and consider whether there might not be some merit to their claims."
Wow! Who is this new (to me, anyway) breath of fresh air? Chino Blanco remarks bear re-posting, as I just did. Thank you, Chino Blanco!
If most of you would do your own research,,,instead of swallowing whatever bunk is being served up the the CraZy people of the AFA...you would find that McDonalds has many areas of where the help their fellow man. The Ronald McDonald House is just the tip of their Ice Berg. They do so much to help humanity,,,how many of you can actually say that???
Just a thought folks: If the American Family Assocition really is about families...perhaps they should boycott any fast food restaurant since they don't exactly serve wholesome food for children or have fair labor practices (for instance, Coca-Cola gets most of their water to make their soft drinks from 3rd world countries, which allows them to produce a very cheap product, but takes valuable water away from starving families.) It seems the AFA is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Is it really out to protect families, or is it more properly the ARWA, American Right Wing Association?
You know, one person's "ewwww" or "ick" is another person's 'soulmate', 'partner', or (gasp) even 'spouse'.
Go ahead and boycott McDonald's. While you're at it, why not boycott Hollywood? Because your "ewwwws" and your "icks" have more to do with what you've grown up seeing on the TV and in the movies than it does with anything that Jesus taught.
Or, you could take a deep breath, decide to stop believing all the scare tactics, and allow the state to grant equality before the law to folks who never bothered you at all.
Whatever "agenda" you fear is in the works, I can tell you I already don't like the current agenda where it's acceptable for folks to hold up their religious beliefs as reason for making my gay friends feel like second-class citizens. You don't have to make them welcome in your churches, you don't have to condone their choices, you can carry on with whatever you think is gonna make the world a better place, but by God, you oughta feel obliged, as Americans, to give them enough benefit of the doubt, when they say they feel they're being treated unfairly by our government, to get off your high horse for a second and consider whether there might not be some merit to their claims.
hlerwin--
Don't think I stand for hypocrisy. I am just as against the no-fault divorce laws in this country, and the removal of the stigma and penalty for adultery that used to exist in this society, as anyone could be.
It is precisely because society has lost the stigma and "shunning" aspect that things like adultery and divorce and unwed pregnancy used to carry, that it is so out of control now.
I would happily support not just the anti-gay marriage amendment, but also laws that remove the no-fault divorce, and punishment for adultery. How's that for fair? The stigma in society that unwed motherhood used to carry, caused many a girl to think twice. And as a result we didn't have the rampant problem of single-motherhood, and children without fathers, and an overburdened welfare state that they felt was obligated to take care of them no matter how many children they had.
wbmoore--
Mmmmm. Love me some Chik-Fil-A. Every time I go to the South, especially Memphis, I find the first Chik-Fil-A I can. Best chicken sandwich in the world, hands down. If you ever get west of the Rockies, try "In N' Out Burger" - best burger you'll ever have. I've never been in one where the staff wasn't friendly and courteous, the restaurant was immaculately clean, and the food wasn't fresh and delicious.
Both are Christian chains, and so we should support them. McDonald's can have the sodomites, I won't ever eat in one of their restaurants again, at least not until they agree to drop their support for the gay agenda.
hlerwin, there is no move afoot to legalize adultery. The concern is with many Christians is that by legalizing either same-sex unions or same-sex marriages you are condoning a lifestyle that violates the Word of God.
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Gays and lesbians make up an estimated 5 percent to 10 percent of the US population. How much damage can they do by committing themselves to one another? They certainly can't do worse with marriage than heterosexuals have.
The New Testament says that marriage is between a man and a woman, you say? Yes, it does. But it also prohibits divorce, adultery and all sex outside of marriage. When are Republicans going to introduce a constitutional amendment banning divorce?
The "sophisticated" argument is that gay marriage poses a unique threat to the stability of the family. That one requires a thought process that my brain can't accommodate. Surely nothing is more threatening to marriage than divorce, followed by adultery. How is letting gays get married more damaging to the institution than cheating on your spouse?
Premarital sex accounts for many unexpected pregnancies, leading to single parents, again a threat to the traditional family. Yet the GOP hasn't taken up the cause of outlawing premarital sex.
Some argue that government sanction of gay marriage gives "moral approval" for such unions. If so, then a government divorce certificate provides "moral approval" for divorce - which, again, is banned in the Bible and threatens family stability.
There's a simple solution: Get the government out of the marriage business and provide civil unions to heterosexual and homosexual couples. Leave churches to perform the kinds of marriages that they want.
But then what would the GOP do in election years?
This from the "New York Post"....
The GOP Gay-Marriage Con
by Kirsten Powers
July 8, 2008
IT'S déjà vu all over again.
Last weekend, Fred Barnes argued on Fox News Sunday that John McCain "needs to energize the right" by focusing on gay marriage and gays in the military. Otherwise, "he'll lose."
No word on whether McCain is considering this tactic, but the idea gets zero points for originality.
In 2004, Republicans tapped into anxiety about same-sex marriage after a spate of such marriages on the steps of San Francisco's City Hall and a Massachussetts Supreme Court ruling in favor of gay marriage. Eleven anti-gay-marriage ballot initiatives passed, and President Bush won re-election.
In 2006, just when the GOP had almost lost hope, New Jersey's Supreme Court decided right before the election that gay couples are entitled to the same legal rights and financial benefits as heterosexual ones. Bush suddenly began warning of a threat to the "institution of marriage" on the campaign trail. No matter: Democrats swept Congress.
This year, it's the California Supreme Court striking down a same-sex-marriage ban that must have gotten the Republicans noodling over the gay menace as a last hope to enthuse the GOP electorate. In a recent Los Angeles Times poll, 81 percent of Obama voters say they're "enthusiastic" about the candidate. McCain voters? More than half say that they're "not enthusiastic."
Barack Obama, like John Kerry in 2004, opposes gay marriage but supports civil unions. He also opposes an amendment to ban same-sex marriage and so write discrimination into the Constitution. Presumably, it's that last position that leads Fred Barnes to believe Obama - who's still married to his original wife - can be cast as hostile to traditional marriage. McCain, who's on his second wife, is the pro-marriage one, of course.
When are anti-gay-marriage voters going to get tired of being whipped into a frenzy about people they'll probably never meet wanting to marry someone of the same sex?
[See part 2, next post.]
wbmoore,
Thanks for pointing that out - I guess I'll have to avoid Chick-fil-a and have more McSkillet burritos.
CHik-Fil-A is a Christian fast food restaurant that sells chicken sandwishes, chicken nuggests and chicken strips. Good food. Not open on Sunday.
Christians if they stood firm on God's word and united in a cause, then we could not be stopped. There is power in the unity of Christ. The problem is that to many people have been influenced by liberal teaching and the true Word has been distorted. I pray for those who were warned in revelation not to add or take away from the Truth. It is one thing to ask question and look for the truth, it is another thing to blatantly disregard what it says.
dongard--
Yeah, those mean old Christofascists only exist in the backwoods of middle America, right?
If Ford blinked, I guarantee that after the AFA winds this one up, McDonald's will blink too. The AFA boycott had quite an effect on Ford, and this one will too. The AFA is a huge organization, far bigger than similar left wing looneybins that generate so much noise from such small membership. Keep in mind that AFA members generally come from large, religious families - it isn't just hundreds of thousands of AFA members that will participate in this boycott. Each of those members (like myself) will be sending on the e-mails and alerting all of their friends and family too. This means McDonald's is looking at potentially millions of customers in the United States who will boycott them. If you don't think that won't have an impact, think again.
Businesses are not keen on negative publicity, and businesses that target the "family" market can little afford to tee off a vast segment of that market and not feel the resulting economic impact. It makes little sense for McDonald's to bend over backwards to appease a minority 2% of the population, that probably doesn't frequent McDonald's much anyway, in favor of outraging a much larger majority of families with strong moral values, who probably *do* frequent their restaurants. Understanding that equation is just good business sense.
In N' Out Burger is huge on the West Coast, and it has the best burgers in the world. They are a Christian franchise (founded by a devout Christian) and each one of their wrappers or cups has a Bible verse number printed on it somewhere. I have never been in one of their restaurants that wasn't immaculately clean. The food is fantastic. A much better option than McDonald's for all families.
A repost of the Holy Spirit:
The Lake of Fire has no occupancy limit..... Just something to think about.
I am on God's side. I am very allegic to fire, hehe. Better to fear God than be a fool and fight against him.
Exodus 9:27 And Pharaoh sent, and called for Moses and Aaron, and said unto them, I have sinned this time: the LORD is righteous, and I and my people are wicked.
Exodus 9:28 Intreat the LORD (for it is enough) that there be no more mighty thunderings and hail; and I will let you go, and ye shall stay no longer.
Exodus 9:29 And Moses said unto him, As soon as I am gone out of the city, I will spread abroad my hands unto the LORD; and the thunder shall cease, neither shall there be any more hail; that thou mayest know how that the earth is the LORD'S.
Exodus 9:30 But as for thee and thy servants, I know that ye will not yet fear the LORD God."
mcdonalds is a world wide trillion dollar corporation. sorry to say but a bunch of rightwing nuts in the mid-west isn't going to make much impact on this company. christians always want to pretend that they are universialist, but here is a good example of how backroads they can be. do your worst and let us have done with you.
I will repost my comment that was flagged, too bad there are those that feel the need to silence the opinions of others.
john 14, shouldn't you be living in a theocracy somewhere?
stanjz
You know, I have seen you write that far more people die of starvation and poverty every year than abortion. I can't seem to find any number for people who die of starvation in this country. I CAN find the numbers of people who die from abortion. Its about 1 million per year (we're up to about 40 million since 1972) in this country alone. Canada about 110,000. 40,000 in Czech Republic, 10,000 in Finland, 150,000 in France, 700,000 reported in India, 100,000 in Italy, 19,000 in Israel, 33,000 in Netherlands, 18,000 in New Zealand, 13,000 in Norway, 400,000 in Philippines, 190,000 in Romania, 1,800,000 in Russia (at one point USSR had 5.5 Million/year). The numbers for those 14 countries come to about 4.5 million per year. There are about 195 countries in this world.
But even so. Lets pretend you are right, that all the abortions that occur worldwide is less than 10 million per year (that makes the assumption that the higher number is correct, which I do not agree with, given its from UNICEF).
This country does a lot to support starving people worldwide. Unfortunately, many regimes take the money or food and use it for purposes other than feeding the poor.
But to suggest that abortion is less deserving of being stopped than hunger is to ignore Christ's teaching suggesting that acting in anger is equivalent to murder. And there is no doubt that abortion is murder. We must strive to stop both things - murder and starving.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_articles_about_abortion_by_country
http://www.christianliferesources.com/?/library/view.php&articleid=1042
stanjz, the Bible clearly teaches that if you know of a fellow believer is sinning we are to go to them and confront them about their sin, it says nothing of if the believer is sinning against you personally, just that you are aware of his sinning. But the thing that must always be remembered is that the goal of this whole process is to see that person restored in their relationship with God and fellow believers. Paul rebuked the Church at Corinth because they were allowing known sin to go on in their midst without confronting it because of both his concern for the members who were caught up in the sin as well as the ability of the church to be an effective witness and testimony to the people of Corinth. Lack of church discipline has caused more churches to become both stagnant and dead in their ability to effectively reach their community for Christ. So confronting fellow believers who are caught up in sin is not only good for the spiritual well being of those caught up in the sin or sinful lifestyle it is necessary for the well being of the church as well.
stanjz
God says it will be hard for a rich man to enter heaven he does not say he wont, however you did not point out 1 cor 6:9-10. Which says the homosexual will not inheret the kingdom of God unless 1cor 6:11 he trusted Christ, repents, and cghanges his ways. God has judged whole nation for certain acts sodom and Gamora(sp?) for gay activity, Isereal (Jeremiahs prophesy) for several acts of disobedience. He does judge individuals, but as you can see he also judges nation(even the innocent, for the believer is not innocent if he idely stands by while others are sinning). His jugement usually comes when they come too complacent with how thier country is. So giving up or just accepting is not acceptable to God. I do agree that the sin is to be hated, but the sinners is to be loved. Too many people put the hate of the sin upon the sinner themself
You miss the point that it is the opposite of love to let someone jump off a cliff. If you see someone doing something wrong, you have a responsibility to point it out - otherwise it is NOT love. The word of GOD is what moves me. That includes what God wrote through Luke, Paul, and John.
Let us look at the fuller context of what Christ said in Luke 17:1-4
1 Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. 2 It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin. 3 So watch yourselves. If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."
It would be better for someone to drown in the sea than to cause a little one to sin. So, sin has to be pointed out, to help keep others from being adversely tempted to do something God said not to do.
To NOT point out sin (particularly ones that Christ said will cause the second death) is NOT love, but the opposite of love. I tell my children when they do something wrong. To not do so is to not love them.
And to address your statement that Christ did not speak out against homosexuality, he DID speak out against sexual immorality, which includes homosexual sex.
You are wrong. Jesus said to not be sexually immoral (Matthew 15:18-20; Mark 7:20-23, Revelation 21:5-8). The definition of sexual immorality is based upon the Scriptures at that time – the Old Testament (Lev 18:22; Lev 20:13), where it does not speak of lust, it speaks of men lying with men as with a woman. That is not describing rape, nor lust. It describes a sex act between a man and a man as being destestable.
The only reason this sin is being addressed here and now is that people keep trying to make others think it is OK to do it.
The commandment to love supersedes any command to point out sin. Yes, you are to point out sin, but you should be spending more time showing compassion and love. Who in the world are any of us to demonize other people for behavior that doesn't affect innocent people? If two men go into a room in private and share a physical moment, if that's a sin, than God will judge, but no one else is involved. If a man beats his wife than it's not being judgmental to say " stop hitting you wife" if a man drinks a little too much, but doesn't insult someone, than maybe you can let it go and not look for things to pick on with other people. It's also a sin to say " your going to hell" to anyone. You are not the Judge of heaven and earth, Jesus Christ is. Christ says " don't say who is going up, for that is to bring Christ down, and don't say who is going down, for that is to bring Christ up." I'm sorry, it's a legit quote, but I cannot find it.
WB Moore wrote In fact, Jesus said to call sinners on their behavior:
Luke 17:3 So watch yourselves. If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.
Your answer WB is right in the verse. If he sins against you, against you WB or otherwise you wouldn't have to forgive him!! Or are you saying that you can forgive the sins of another person that has nothing to do with you?
The Lord had ten chances to carve a commandment against gays, but didn't. Four different authors in the Bible quoting Jesus Christ, but not one against gays. I'm not even telling you to believe that it's ok, I'm saying why in the world would you focus on something that is limited unto itself? There are wars, greed, violence and hate that extends to other people. Far, far more children die to neglect and poverty than abortion, but the Republican Party can pour billions into a dishonest war. Billion of dollars that could have saved tens or maybe hundreds of million of children. According to UNICEF 26,000-30,000 children die every day due to poverty and imagine how many people that would be if we included adults. That's why Christ said it is almost impossile for a rich man to get to heaven( and the man in the parable was a conservative), but he never said it was almost impossible for someone who kills to get to heaven. But you substitute your own Gospel for God's. You give priority to what an apostle says than what Jesus say. You give more weight to Jewish disciplinary laws that don't apply to you than the Ten Commandments that include a Commandment against adultery, but not gays. That is hypocrisy.
JHS--
You sound like a walking, talking, Obama campaign commercial - you've even got the talking points memorized. Just WOW...
JHS--
On the contrary, the AFA boycott did indeed affect Ford sales and Ford has virtually admitted as much, indirectly. And the fact that they caved to the boycott also tells you the effect it had. It was one of the most effective boycotts ever.
I would never work for a company that had same sex benefits for its workers. I would not deal with a company that did so, either, if I knew it was their policy. And if I owned a company, I would never consider offering such benefits. I would not do so even if it were the law, instead, I would simply shut down my company before I would submit to it. Luckily it hasn't gone that far for businesses...yet. But you can bet in an Obamanation it will become law of the land.
So, I will be joining the AFA boycott of McDonald's and will not go there again, no matter the hue and cry from the backseat about Happy Meals, until McDonald's renounces its open support of the gay agenda.
And since I have a very large, religious family, spread across the continental United States, they can be sure I will be spreading this news and that *this* extended family will not be patronizing a McDonald's restaurant for the foreseeable future.
Jesus did not say to not judge, he said to not be a hypocrite. If you have a problem in a given area, clean up your own act before calling others on theirs (Matthew 7:1-5).
Jesus Himself said we are to judge what is right or wrong.
Luke 12:57 Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right?
In fact, Jesus said to call sinners on their behavior:
Luke 17:3 So watch yourselves. If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.
Paul said to not be a hypocrite:
Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
But we are to discern what is right and wrong and avoid wrong.
Romans 12:9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
1 Corinthians 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
So Christians should judge their own actions first and deal with sin in their own lives. But we are to judge the sins of those inside the church. Even so, this does not mean we are to judge someone as being better or worse than ourselves. If someone outside the church does bad things I still have the responsibility to judge whether that thing is good or bad. Whether someone does something good or bad does not necessarily indicate a person is good or bad. Judging something to be a sin is a good thing. Judging someone is not. There is a distinct difference that people who are doing things that others call wrong do not make.
"The organization said it believed its boycott played a significant role in causing Ford sales to drop 8 percent in that period."
AND FOR THE RECORD: If any one believes that AFA had any effect on Ford Motor sales with this economy in the last 2 years, they are smoking dope and not exhailing!
I proudly work for a company that has same sex benefits for it's workers. Trust me God is not sitting on his throne wringing his hand saying "I can't believe they have same sex benefits", not after Iraq, millions of people losing their homes, lack of healthcare and thousands of sons and daughter in wars, if this is what they have to worry about, this organization has WAY WAY too much time and not enough money on their hands. Wildmon may mean well, and I don't march in any ones parade, but these people have rights, have served our country, and it's God's job to judge not ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!