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McCain Not Inciting Passions of Evangelicals

By Mike Glover|Associated Press Writer

SIOUX CENTER, Iowa - Stirring her morning coffee, lifelong Republican Grace Droog voiced her doubts — and those of many evangelical voters — about what she isn't hearing from John McCain in this year's presidential election.

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"I look for something about his faith," she said. "It's very important, it's what our nation was founded on."

Her pal Joan Rens nodded; she, too, wants McCain to talk about his religious beliefs. "I wish he would so we would know how he stands on his religious views and where his faith lies," she said.

In this part of the country — halfway between Sioux City, Iowa, and Sioux Falls, S.D., — separating religion from politics is folly. Religious conservatives here were energized by President Bush's public declaration of faith and handed him a landslide in 2004. With growing sway in the state GOP, they recently captured a prominent party leadership post.

"When they get on fire, it's Katie bar the door," said Rock Rapids businessman George Schneiderman, who worries that McCain isn't generating that excitement.

"It's just kind of a tepid response," he said. "McCain really hasn't convinced them he has the same fervor about the appointment of judges, about the right to life."

In the ongoing AP-Yahoo News Poll, only 10 percent of white evangelical Christians say they are excited by this election, compared with 20 percent of Americans overall. A third of these evangelicals said they were interested in the election, but half said they were frustrated by it.

Nevertheless, they support McCain over Obama by 62 percent to 18 percent. Although the AP-Yahoo News Poll is of all adults, not the smaller, more energized group of likely voters, McCain's figures lag behind Bush's showing among white evangelical Christian voters in the 2004 election, when exit polls indicated 78 percent supported him.

In some parts of Iowa, overall turnout in 2004 was 20 percentage points higher than 2000, virtually all of it an energized Bush vote.

A prosperous hamlet of 6,300, Sioux Center is home to 17 churches, 13 of them with the word "Reformed" in their name, a sign of a strong evangelical presence. In 2004, 16,000 people in the county voted, 14,000 of them for Bush.

Carl Zylstra is president of Dordt College in Sioux Center, a small private school that bills itself as "what quality Christian higher education is all about." Also the host of a weekly radio talk show about politics and everything else on the minds of folks, Zylstra hears quiet doubts, far different from the passion Bush inspired.

"George Bush has a very compelling personal story, a very compelling religious experience and in their hearts they believed he was a man who loved the same Lord they did," said Zylstra. "They might not agree with all his policies, but they trusted him that when the chips were down, he would do the right thing. McCain is not a man who incites the same passion."

Dave Mulder, a retired teacher from Northwestern College in nearby Orange City, another private Christian college, also knows something about local politics and spent a stint in the state Legislature.

"I think people here genuinely believe that George Bush and his Christian faith was very sincere," said Mulder. "People have said that when they talked to him, he took time to let them know how much that Christian belief meant. For McCain, I just don't think there's that same enthusiasm." Continue >>

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  • Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'll say he is not exciting us. McCain cheated on his first wife and ran off with one of his mistresses, who might soon be our first lady! THAT is a greater threat to marriage than gay marriage in my opinion.

  • Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Paul exercized his rights as a citizen, but when did he ever preach about a particular candidate or write about one in a letter to the church?"

    It was not an issue at the time, as he did not live in a democracy. However, the word of God gives us instructions on the qualities and issues God considers important. We must use His word to decide which candidates closest match those qualities and will address the issues God thinks are important.

  • Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:32 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    neither candidate shows the strong values of a christian. mccain believes in this grotesque war, torture without trial, and a rich-take-all economy. obama believes in abortion, strong government control of nondiscrimination policies, and - though i agree 100% with him - rights for gays. what is the point in arguing about it anymore.

    but let's face it. obama will win. and i am fine with that.

  • Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Sharing regular morning coffee here with Droog and Rens, Jake Kieft, who backed Bush with enthusiasm, shrugged his shoulders over the campaign"

    I guess the coffee was spiked with a depressant.

  • Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:42 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    radias, you make some valid points, but to use Jesus and Paul is a real stretch considering the governments of their day were monarchies/dictatorships and not a democracy. But God's Word sets the agenda already with regards to who we should be voting for. I believe it's in Psalms or Proverbs where God's Word declares that God honors the nations whose leaders honor Him, but unfortunately with some candidates these days talk is cheap in this area.

  • Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:32 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Yes, Paul exercized his rights as a citizen, but when did he ever preach about a particular candidate or write about one in a letter to the church?

    Who did Jesus vote for?

    I just finished reading a book by Greg Boyd called 'The Myth Of A Christian Nation; How The Quest For Political Power Is Destroying The Church.' The Spirit of God within me has completely agreed with the book and its examples.

    Republicans cannot win without the christian rights votes. John McCain is in serious trouble as the above article alludes too.

    Jesus is still weeping over us.

  • Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:47 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

    Let this be a wake-up call for McCain! Your evangelical base is porous, more than you realize.

    You must address the issues that we care about. Otherwise you might as well pack your sleeping bag into the Senate office.

    Without base-building, your foundation is extremely shaky!

    When will you ever learn? Hopefully, before the election season gets along too far.

    Otherwise, you will have no one to blame except for yourself & your ill-advising advisors.

  • JHS »
    Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:23 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 5

    "George Bush has a very compelling personal story, a very compelling religious experience and in their hearts they believed he was a man who loved the same Lord they did," said Zylstra"


    The only thing Bush did was wear Jesus on his sleeve to geta bunch of right wing bible thumping greedy morons to vote for him, then he proceeded to drag the country through the mud!!!!!!!!!!

  • Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:15 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 5

    "Well christian leaders, you've tarnished and damaged God's church by mixing it with the filthy politics of this world - and what has it gotten you?"

    The church is not tarnished because of mixing in politics. Even Paul exercized his rights as a citizen (Acts 22:23-30). We have the responsibility to be good citizens (Romans 13).

    The church is tarnished because so many people within the church are not saved. The church is tarnished because many of those who are saved are not living holy lives. The church is tarnished because we have not done enough to evangelize and disciple.

    We have to go further, not backwards.

  • Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:56 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 2

    It's quite ironic that Karl Rove's chickens have come home to roost.

    He presented GWBush as the ultimate "christian" presidential candidate ever and in doing so made it almost impossible for any other republican to meet our expectations.

    I voted twice for Bush - in 2000 and 2004. And now I find myself in the position of having to really vote for the lesser of 2 evils again - I will most likely vote third party. And before anyone yells about the supreme court, just remember that McCain, even if elected, won't get church approved nominee's past the majority democrat senate.

    Well christian leaders, you've tarnished and damaged God's church by mixing it with the filthy politics of this world - and what has it gotten you?

    Surely Jesus is weeping over us.

  • Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:50 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 1

    Article quote: "But some religious conservatives wonder if McCain even has the potential to stir their passion. "Some said he was the safe alternative," Zylstra, the college president and talk show host, said. "He just doesn't ignite the fire." "

    Being from one of the cities mentioned in this article I want to say, that it's true many Evangelicals are just not excited this year. But it's not McCains lack of talking about faith that's the problem, its the fact that McCain doesnt seem to talk or strongly support the values that we want to see exemplified. Many evangelicals aren't as concerned about whether McCain is "evangelical enough" as we are actually concerned about whether he actually supports our issues.

    Many and possibly including myself will vote for McCain because we view him as a better alternative to Obama. But this is not what turns out the vote, McCain will make or break his campaign on whom he chooses for VP.

    In the end though, I even question whether to vote for either candidate at all. I do not want to give the impression to the GOP Party that they can count on our (the conservative evangelical) vote and move "left" as a party just knowing that as long as the candidate is not as liberal as the democrats, that our vote is counted on. Many others i'm sure are concerned and contemplating doing the same thing.

    McCain, your VP is essentially a make-it or break-it deal for many of us, so choose very wisely. Choose someone who has a long, tried and true record as a social conservative

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