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World|Thu, Jul. 24 2008 08:50 AM EDT

Brian McLaren Challenges Anglicans on Emerging Culture

By Maria Mackay|Christian Today Reporter

McLaren exhorted bishops to take a “missiological” and culturally sensitive view of homosexuality, an issue that has divided the Church particularly since the U.S. Episcopal Church’s consecration of the openly gay Gene Robinson as Bishop of New Hampshire in 2003.

“To deal with this issue of human sexuality in some places in the world is very different than in other places in the world,” he said. “If you are deeply, deeply committed to making followers of Jesus Christ, you have to be conscious of those settings and the real challenge is the person in [one] setting to be conscious of the difficulties of the person in [the other] setting.”

McLaren's comments come as the archbishop of the Episcopal Church of Sudan affirmed the authority of Scripture on Tuesday.

"The culture does not change the Bible; the Bible changes the culture. Cultures that do not approve of the Bible are left out of the Church’s life," the Most Rev. Dr. Daniel Deng Bul said.

This year, Anglican leaders are approaching Lambeth differently, moving away from legislation and toward more conversation as they try to better understand one another amid divisions. Discussions will center on highly debated issues including biblical authority, human sexuality and Anglican identity.

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  • Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I think most of us have forgotten that God wants us "...first to LOVE the Lord with all our heart, soul, and mind; and love our neighbor as ourself." That means even McLauren. We are to pray for our enemies. We are to pray his eyes be open to the truth.

    "They will know we are Christian's by how we love each other." That is what God wants us to do. Love each other and our neighbor.

  • Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Here's a quote from the emergent church website given below:

    "Marriage for Christians is the freely given consent and commitment in public and before God of a man and a woman to live together for life. It is intended to be the mutually faithful lifelong union of a woman and man expressed in every part of their life together."

    Apparently, emergent is a method vs a theology.

  • Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I've been going some googling and found this site. It seems to hold some balance as an emergent church.

    http://assembly.uca.org.au/theologyanddiscipleship/resources/the_emerging_church#4

    They have some doctrine statements which seem right on though I haven't gone through the whole site. They're 'emergent' sounds much more like what our church is doing. It's not about changing the message, it's about telling people in a way they can hear.

    Do you realize there were people who didn't like radio and TV as a method of evangelism? "It will keep people from coming to Church" they said. Still, even concervative churches do broadcasts now.

  • Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:10 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Why does it not surprise me that feetxxxl thinks McLaren is right about anything?

  • Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:28 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    McLaren is all about entertaining the goats rather than feeding the sheep.

  • Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    consider mclaren is asking what is the church that jesus is speaking about to us, to our hearts, who lives in us. jesus whom god has entrusted all judgement and has placed in authority over all things.

  • Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:57 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    We are to be reconciled to GOd, not to sin.

  • Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:34 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    feetxxxl,

    Nobody debates this statement. This is the mission of the Church at large - to GO INTO ALL THE WORLD AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL NATIONS BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, AND OF THE SON, AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

    No one has ever debated the mission of the Church, BUT at the same time we are to remain separate and unspotted from the influences of the culture coming into the Church superimposing its values (or the lack thereof) onto the Church.

    The culture does not control or dictate what God does. Mr McLauren believes it does. His philosophy is to ask "What do you want in a Church?" My point is who cares what you or I want in a church. What does GOD WANT IN A CHURCH?

    When we determine what God wants, THEN and ONLY then can we reach a lost and dying world effectively. Do it on our own and we will only end being a Mr McLauren - a man pleaser.

  • Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:33 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    "What new, unimagined capacity could be stirred up in the church if we re-discovered and re-prioritized our outward mission to be the hands and feet and eyes and ears, the presence of Jesus Christ to a world in desperate need?

    maybe its time to give our belief systems a rest.

  • Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:29 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 10

    My day would be so much brighter if Mr Lyin' McLaren would just go away - or better yet, actually get saved.

    It's a fearful thing to imagine the firey indignation that he will face at the judgment seat of Christ when he has to answer for all the souls that he has led astray.

  • Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:59 am Agree: 12   Disagree: 3

    Homosexuality is a sin. PERIOD! There is no gray area in scripture about it. It is sin. There is no trying to understand it, tolerate it, or reason it out. It is sin. Repentance is the only solution. Same goes for adultery, fornication, blasphemy, pornography, lying, stealing, murder, et al. Sin is sin is sin. Period.

    Repent! That is the only solution that will gain you entrance into heaven and grant you favor with God. Sin separates us from God. Repentance (turning away from sin) reconciles us to Him.

    Playing "church" is a stench in God's nostrils. Anyone acting outside of God's Word and yet calls themselves a Christian is NOT a Christian. "Only those who do the will of my Father in Heaven" are the ones God sees as Christian. Everyone else is a fraud.

    Mr McLauren's theology has NEVER been in keeping with the Word of God. Culture dictates to him what is acceptable or not, not the Word of God. this man does more damage to the church than any heathen ever could because he plays both sides of the fence.

    Jesus said: "I wish you were either hot or cold but because you are lukewarm (about who you're going to foloow) I'm going to spew you out of my mouth."

    Choose you this day whom you're going to serve! God or man! Christ or culture! Stop contaminating the Church with your abominable heresy! Get in or get out!

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