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Education|Mon, Jul. 28 2008 02:35 PM EDT

Evangelical Scholar Takes New Atheists Seriously

By Lillian Kwon|Christian Post Reporter

They may make up only a minority in America but the small atheist numbers do not give one evangelical scholar reason to ignore them and their potential influence.

Arguments refuting theism have been made for centuries but have not swayed the American people's overwhelming faith in God's existence. But the challenges presented by a new group of atheists in recent years are starting to make a dent and, as Dr. Albert Mohler stated, demands "our closest attention."

"Just look at the number of media appearances these authors have made; look at where their book sales are," said Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and a preeminent evangelical.

Mohler just released Atheism Remix this month in response to the New Atheist movement and its leading figures – Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens, many of whom are widely recognized scientists and best-selling authors. Mohler called them "The four horsemen of the New Atheist apocalypse."

The media attention alone – from newspaper coverage to books and television shows – has thrust their challenges to Christian belief into the public square with many viewing the New Atheists as a "vanguard of a new intellectual movement," as Mohler stated.

While the movement may not have hit small-town America or even mainstream culture, it has made headway on college and university campuses, with the younger generation, and in elite circles such as policy-making bodies, he noted.

The New Atheist movement, Mohler insists, "deserves and demands a cogent Christian response."

But some are dismissing the need to respond, citing the tiny atheist population and its "surge."

"According to last year's Pew Forum survey, the percentage of Americans who say they're atheists has soared all the way to – wait for it – 1.6 percent! And a fifth of those say they believe in some kind of god," stated a blog post in The Dallas Morning News. The blogger, Jeffrey Weiss, suggested Mohler's new book "looks to waste his power on a less-than-robust foe."

Mohler called such a dismissal "intellectually weak."

"That kind of dismissiveness is not intellectually credible," he commented.

"I never said that atheism is a great challenge in terms of armies of atheists marching on the Church. The point is that it’s an intellectual challenge where it matters and that’s in the public square," the Southern Baptist theologian told The Christian Post. "The new atheists have a serious argument they’re making. They see themselves to be in an opportune moment in terms of the culture and I think Christians have to take it seriously."

Atheism Remix targets Christians as Mohler outlines the characteristics that set New Atheism apart from older forms of atheism and urges believers to step up to the challenge, especially at a time when many Christians know very little about their faith.

"There are a good many Christians who are almost completely unschooled in the basics of the faith. Even though they believe in God and have faith in Christ, they would be hard pressed to offer even the most intellectual defense of their faith," Mohler noted.

And in some cases, the New Atheists have studied the Christian faith more (in order to reject it) than some Christians.

"And that should be to our embarrassment," Mohler said.

The evangelical author is urging Christians not to merely refute atheism but to defend Christian theism.

"It’s not so much that we want people not to be atheists," Mohler explained. "I think that’s what’s very important for me, as a Christian. I don’t want people merely not to be atheists; I want them to believe in Christ. And that’s a very different thing."

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  • Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The greatest force on earth..."love". Christ teaches.."they will know us by our love"..... The power of God's love convicts, convinces, converts with compassion. WE need to be careful...for Christ also said..not to cast our pearls before swine. It's a tough teaching... he wasn't saying not to love those who do not love us... He did not teach not to share the Gospel message... but I think that we ought to be able to present the Gospel meesage... and then after that convince others by how we love. As they make the connection between our faith and our love.... they will either remain as hard or as cold as stones or they will soften.

  • Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    It's not hard to understand why people are pulled away. With so many churches and people taking apart the Word and selling it to any who will come why not. The Bible preaching has become what ever you need preaching. That's the same as everything else. So if God wrote it why can't He keep it, or are those that take it out of it's origanal meaning false prophets? I don't think it's enough to just ask people to believe even if we don't know what the truth is and therefore can't know what is expected. Then you could be acting against what He wants and worshipping someone other than God. There is no room in America for strict Biblical preaching that's why no one is teaching it. (Paul Washer is right on, but no one I know really lives like this and no one I know really believes like this and no one I know preaches like this)It sounds like your saying "just go to church" That means "just be like the worldly" It's cool to be in church and that's scary.

  • Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ID4234: "many who started out as atheists have read the Bible and turned to faith in Christ... Jay Sekulow, Josh McDowell, and Lee Strobel."

    Of course, there's no such thing as an "ex-atheist"; Sekulow, McDowell, and Strobel must have never been "true atheists" then.

    Just teasing :)

    Just wanted to point out a popular site where ex-Christians post their deconversion "testimonies," as there seems to be a difference of opinion as to the motivations and Biblical literacy of ex-believers.

    exchristian.net is one, but there are others.

  • Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:14 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "The blogger, Jeffrey Weiss, suggested Mohler's new book "looks to waste his power on a less-than-robust foe."

    Even a cancerous tumor starts out as a single cancer cell. I find it hard to believe that there are those in The Church who would even think that there is something in Satan's plan that is too small for us to pay attention to. Isn't it the 'little foxes that spoil the vine'?

    Over the years I have definitely found that most Christians don't know exactly what they believe. How many of you out there have actually read the doctrine that your particular denomination holds? Have you read the doctrines of any other denominations? Google "church doctrines". Do it when you have some time, though. It's actually quite interesting and enlightening and then compare it with Scripture. Does it stand up in the Light of God's Word?

    A few years ago I took myself back to the basics...I mean...basics! First question: "Do I REALLY believe in God?" And don't just answer yourself, "Well, of course I do." I had to really, honestly look at my actions: if I really believe in God then I will be 'doing' His Will according to His Word. I found I really DO believe in God but I wasn't doing all of what I should have been, in the Light of Scripture. I'm still not perfect but I'm getting much better. I still like to "touch base": review what I believe and why, am I secure enough in my faith and belief to stand some heat, etc. I think that's why alot of Christians won't debate or even talk much about their beliefs...weakness and insecurity. Some of this responsibility lies at the feet of the churches and those in positions of leadership. But, each Christian should also remember that we, ultimately, are responsible for our own salvation, daily. Time to get off the milk and into the meat of The Word and be able to give every man a reason for our faith.

    1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:


    I especially enjoyed frankiebp's comments about athiests who argue against the existance of God. lol Maybe I'm simple but it seems to me that line of reasoning alone should shut down their arguments.

  • Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "abandoned 'discipleship' for a self-help approach to the faith,"

    another form of it is "pull yourself up by your bootstraps. This is what conservative churches have used in place of discipleship for decades.

  • Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I could not help but respond to boremetotears. While it may true that a small number of people have read the Bible and then rejected it when they knew what it said, it is equally true that many who started out as atheists have read the Bible and turned to faith in Christ, been regenerated by the Holy Spirit, and today are among some of our most able Christian minds. For example, Jay Sekulow, Josh McDowell, and Lee Strobel. It is possible to read the Bible regularly and not believe, but by reading the Bible many come to belief. What got me was the prophecies. I couldn't get around the fact that many have already come true, and others I see fulfilling in my time here on earth. I believe.

  • Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    A theologian? When has a theologian ever produced any knowledge that was a the least bit useful for the atheist?

    If they want to respond to atheism and not just preach to the choir, they need to use arguments that atheists actually value. Those grounded in science and evidence.

  • Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    This "Evangelical Scholar" should take the false teachers and the heresies IN THE CHURCH, more seriously. The atheist are acting just like unbelievers act, what's the surprise here Dr. Mohler? Why don't you concern yourself with Ray Comfort preaching with Word Faith pimps who steal from the poor and searching all in the name of Christ? Why don't you worry about Rick Warren preaching a false gospel of Christians should work with Satan to save the planet?

    Satan in the church is a bigger problem than unbelievers behaving just like... unbelievers.

  • Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:08 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Perhaps the reason some of us reasonable Christ-followers are ignoring the atheists is that an argument against that which does not exist proves the existence of that against which one argues. I don't argue against the existence of leprechauns; since they don't exist, arguing against their existence is silly.

    The other factor that may be influencing reasonable Christ-followers ignore atheists is that the Bible is clear that "religiosity" (belief in a "spiritual redeemer") will only increase as history comes to a close. How else can the duping of millions of people by "a couple of beasts" (Revelation 13 and elsewhere) who require (and receive) worship be explained? "Believers" (New Ageists, Global Warmingists, World Commercialists, World Citizenists, etc.) will gladly follow their "Christ." Atheists will be non-existent.

  • Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:50 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Glad to see Mohler is taking this thing seriously, because it is. There was a conference by Dawkins and company claiming that religion is genetically driven. Simply put, it's "chemical" in origin. Which is to say, (and even Dawkins has said this) that religion is the cause of all the ills in the world. Thus, if you take that idea to its final conclusion, and add evolution's idea, of survival of the fittest, it's not difficult to see that the "superman" idea (ALA Frederick Nietzsche and Adolf Hitler style) is not too far behind.

    If all we are is a chemical soup with no purpose, meaning or moral make-up, why not just weed out the problem - the religious?

    It is indeed a serious accusation:
    http://thesciencenetwork.org/BeyondBelief/about/

  • Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:46 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Dr. Mohler's point is well taken. Many churches have abandoned "discipleship" for a self-help approach to the faith, and in the process have watered down the message so people believe themselves to be Christians when, in fact, they aren't.

    They have not repented of sins and recieved Christ as Lord and Savior. Instead they have put on another gospel, a covental one whereby God will do this if you do that instead of God has done this despite what you did.

    Our faith is not about intellectual and emotional ascension but about seeing ourselves for what we truly are and what we truly need.

  • Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:48 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    "However, contrary to the claim here, atheists don't "learn" the Bible to reject it; many are former Christians themselves who chose, at some point, to finally sit down and read the thing. *Hence* they are atheists. See the difference?"

    No, Most learn just enough to misquote and demean, they don't "learn" it at all. I know very little about the bible, and I agree that most christians don't know much about the christian faith, but I look at it like this, I am not an apologetics student but I would be willing to bet that most of the argements that atheist make, if properly research would be found to be false, but that is only from my place, i have read many articles and books on atheist such as dawkins, pullman and others, and most of their arguments are filled with misinterpretations and conjecture. I see some of these misguided folks and it makes me want to pray all the more fervently for them...

  • Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:34 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    re: Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron... not my first pick when it comes to choose an apologist.

    Yes, we have great fun with the banana, aka "our worst enemy."

  • Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Unfortunately, many Christians cannot give a great defense of their faith or why they believe. However, in many debates that I see, read about or hear about, some times the participants leave something to be desired. For example, Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are good guys and love the Lord, but they are not my first pick when it comes to choose an apologist.

  • Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:45 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Re: "There are a good many Christians who are almost completely unschooled in the basics of the faith. Even though they believe in God and have faith in Christ, they would be hard pressed to offer even the most intellectual defense of their faith,"... AND... And in some cases, the New Atheists have studied the Christian faith more (in order to reject it) than some Christians.
    ---
    When I first left Christianity, I was struck with this same paradox: Generally, atheists know the Bible far better than Christians.

    However, contrary to the claim here, atheists don't "learn" the Bible to reject it; many are former Christians themselves who chose, at some point, to finally sit down and read the thing. *Hence* they are atheists. See the difference?

    Crumbs from an atheist: Stop misinforming Christians in "apologetics" classes. Why? They waltz into debates like they own the place... and the atheists have them for lunch. Eeesh. It's just painful to watch. Seriously.

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    Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I often more than not disagree with Mohler, on this he may have it right, I don't know a single democrat or republican that knows how to handle the legal problems they are causing with church rights and individual rights of freedom of worship. These people are trouble and they have an agenda!

  • Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    kevin82, thanks for the additional names. I enjoy reading and listening to Dinesh D'Souza, author of "What's So Great About Christianity." A brilliant defender of the faith. The debates between him and Christopher Hitchens (viewable on YOUTUBE) are particularly good - considering at one time I felt that Hitchens (author of "God is not Great") would be a formidable foe. But D'Souza takes him apart! It's beautiful. Anyway, as Christians we need to be ready in-season and out to give an answer for the hope we have in Jesus Christ. I'll see if I can find information / writings by some of the other scholars you cited.

  • Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:37 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    I know this has nothing to do with the article, but, seriously, is Al Mohler the only theologian the Christian Post knows? It seems that every single headline that says "top theologian" or "evangelical scholar" is, surprise, Al Mohler. I actually agree with most everything Dr. Mohler writes about, and I'm even a fellow Southern Baptist. But, please, how about Kevin Vanhoozer at Trinity Evangelical, or Mike Horton at Westminster West, or Paul Moser at Loyola Chicago, or William Lane Craig at Biola, and the list goes on. Let's branch out a little.

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