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Opinion|Mon, Jul. 28 2008 06:54 PM EDT

Interview: Brian Mclaren on Anglicans, Mission and Reconciliation

By Maria Mackay|Christian Today Reporter

Second, virtue. If we don't know how to control our tongues, as the Apostle James frequently teaches, then there are going to be forest fires of conflict everywhere. If we don't learn how to listen wisely, again as James reminds us, we'll find ourselves slipping into unwise, angry, and divisive speech. If we don't have humility, we will constantly be either on attack or in defense mode, since egos are in play. If we don't learn how to forgive, and ask forgiveness, we will be at odds constantly, nursing grudges and causing new offenses.

But if we actually seek to practice Christ – like virtues at every single turn, I think we'll find a way forward. It may take a while, but patience is one of the virtues in question! But if we focus less on removing the splinters of error in others' eyes and more on our own planks of virtue-deficit, God can make a way where there was no way.

Third, mission. I've noticed that conflicts increase when we forget the main reason we're here. Idle hands and minds and mouths can find a lot to fight about when they aren't primarily focused on the mission Christ gave his disciples, a mission which many of us understand to be the call to make disciples, meaning people who actually live in the way of Jesus. Considering all the crises and catastrophes we face in today's world, I think we'd all agree we could use a lot more Christ-like people ... and the only organization dedicated to recruiting people into a life-long journey of Christ-like living is the Church. So that's what I hope we can all feel called towards, whatever our denominational heritage, and whatever labels we prefer – liberal, conservative, whatever.

CT: Do you find it ironic that you are here and some 250 Anglican bishops are not?

McLaren: No. The Anglican bishops who chose not to come did so for reasons that make sense to them, and I accepted the invitation to come for reasons that make sense to me.

CT: The sexuality issue is a big one and you advised bishops to be sensitive to different cultural settings. Does that mean we should shape the Bible around the surrounding culture?

McLaren: This question raises a host of assumptions and deeper questions that too few people are willing to grapple with. Because the fact is, what we're talking about isn't simply the Bible but our interpretations of the Bible. It's not just what the Bible says, but how we understand, interpret, and apply what the Bible says. In the Bible, for example, God commanded polygamy in certain situations in the Old Testament. And God also commanded stoning in certain situations. Nobody I know of wants to apply those passages literally today.

The question of which passages to apply to a certain situation, and how literally to apply them, is a question of interpretation, and interpretation is not simply a science or technique, like solving a math equation. There are many layers of skill in biblical interpretation. In surgery, one needs to know biology, pathology, neurology, cardiology, and so on, and beyond that, one needs skills like cutting, suturing, cauterizing, monitoring vital signs, and much, much more.

Similarly, in biblical interpretation, one needs, among many other things, literary knowledge and skills, language and translation knowledge and skills, cultural analysis knowledge and skills, and very quickly, pastoral and peace-making knowledge and skills too because even the best experts will frequently disagree! Continue »

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  • Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    There were people kicked out the 1st century church because of false teachings. Not following what the word of God teaches (the need to repent and turn to God and live a life worthy of the calling as defined by God in His word) is one of the reasons people were kicked out. The need to add to what Christ did was another reason people were kicked out of the church.

  • Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I read nothing of the need to repent. I read nothing of the need for the saving work of Christ on the cross. I read what appears to be a social gospel - global kingdom.

    The more I read of this person, the less I like what I understand him to say.

  • Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:09 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Well said: "If we don't know how to control our tongues, as the Apostle James frequently teaches, then there are going to be forest fires of conflict everywhere. If we don't learn how to listen wisely, again as James reminds us, we'll find ourselves slipping into unwise, angry, and divisive speech. If we don't have humility, we will constantly be either on attack or in defense mode, since egos are in play. If we don't learn how to forgive, and ask forgiveness, we will be at odds constantly, nursing grudges and causing new offenses."

  • Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:07 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Well said: "My dominant impression during my four brief days at Lambeth was not controversy, but rather the spirituality of the participants. The gathering was full of prayer, Bible study, worship, and fellowship. It wasn't simply a political "us versus them" gathering, as news reports often seem to imply."

  • Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:05 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    It wouldn't surprise me that McLaren is a fan of the apostate Williams. Two peas in a pod.

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