Former Roberts Employee Says Donations Went into Unmarked Account

mkloru »

Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:31 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

As an ORU grad, this news is hardly surprising.....but God is good and ORU has a new beginning and her best days are yet to come.

feetxxxl »

Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:59 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

The purpose of influence is to speak up for those who have no influence,” Warren explained.

'seek justice , love mercy, and walk humbly with the lord.

its not about speaking up for others.............that thinking allows for the pride "i know what they need and what they want"

what is important is creating a level playing field according to the precept of seperation between church and state so that all voices are able to be heard.

that would mean to acknowledge political bias for all things christian, not the teachings of christ, but the politics and the culture.

id love to here his critique of this president in regards to his sermon. he would never give it. does that mean that warren is disingenuous? i wonder how many politcal decisions he has made for the sake of the sale of his book, and to remain a politically powerful person.

i think the thing that disturbed me was that here was a man who fronting himself as a pursuer of the truth. but he was doing it while at the same time catering to all present existing political forces.

the 2 being the antithesis of each other.

from everything ive seen about warren, he appears to love being in the limelight and in the inner circles of power.

the thing about influence. we influence those around us just by existing.

it is my understanding that a good leader makes himself easily accessible to those he is suppose to be leading.


he willingly exposes himself to those who would challenge and disagree with him

and a good leader is pro active. it is not for me to tell him, what he should already know and be dealing with. that means he has to have capacity to actually comprehend world and national issues.

the thing that concerns me about mccain isnt that has good intentions and has integrity, but that he is to willing sum up an issue with a phrase and a comment. there is an indication that once he does it, he considers it a done deal. nothing could be farther from reality. what was true yesterday may be something else today.

i dont see him having the flexibilty to adjust immediately.

with obama who has the flexibility, there appears to be because he is confident of understanding complex issues, the possibility believing that he knows everything that needs to be known. and that could be disasterous.

rydak »

Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:20 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 4

Whatever happened to believing one is innocent until proven guilty. It's great that everyone wants to be in the "I told you so" position, so let's not jump to conclusions based on things others tell us.

A.S.Mathew »

Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:54 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

Richard and Lidsay Roberts preached prosperity and they
were not satisfied with their thirst for money, so they
took shortcuts to reach the goal. If they did this format of operation in a non-religious corporation, the
payday would have been so terrible. Due to the selfishness of these people and a whole lot of other
electronic preachers, the believers everywhere in the
world are being humiliated. Some of these prosperity preachers
must be penalized with an orange vest given to state
prisoners to wear while working on the road side; and
make them work on the road side to collect trash for
their sins of deception. They did it willingly and
deliberately, so we need not have to excuse them anymore.

pgcfriend »

Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:24 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

Sad to say this is not news to many that live in Tulsa. A friend of mine has a good friend that said that the funds that were raised to help the students were going to other things. I do not know if she said that they were going to an unmarked account or not.

Another friend of mine contributed to the reconstruction of the Student Center. It came out last year that the funds did not go toward it. The lot remains empty as of a few months ago when I was on campus. I do not know if that project has restarted again since Mart Green became the head of ORU. The mood is a whole lot better at the school, the first time in decades. Employees have received raises and are allowed to participate in the ins and outs of campus life, even input into cirriculum. I'm grateful for the changes which would never have occurred while Richard Roberts was at the helm.

cowboyfan88 »

Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:32 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

Richard and his wife need to have charges against them for fraud. They are lying to people every day in the name of Jesus that they have some sort of power from Jesus that we don't have. That with the right amount of money, they can be blessed by God. Why would anybody be shocked by this. His father told millions of people that God would kill him if he didn't raise 8 million dollars. Why are we suprised that his son wouldn't do the same, just in a different way.