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Conservative Group Unveils Biden's Family Voting Record

By Jennifer Riley|Christian Post Reporter

Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware in many ways is different than his Democratic running mate Sen. Barack Obama, but a conservative advocacy group shows that on key pro-family issue the two are very much on the same page.

Biden, who was introduced to the nation as Obama’s vice presidential pick on Saturday, is a strong supporter of Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion, Family Research Council highlighted in its fact sheet on Biden.

"I strongly support Roe v. Wade ... That's why I led the fight to defeat Bork, Roberts Alito, and Thomas," Biden had said at the South Carolina Democratic primary debate on April 26, 2008.

The six-term Delaware senator also voted against parental notification of minors seeking out-of-state abortions.

However, unlike Obama, he supported the partial birth abortion ban in 1999 (not the one that became law in the 108th Congress) that sought to make a form of late-term abortion illegal.

Biden is also an ally of Planned Parenthood, voting in 2005 to increase funding to the pro-abortion group and similar clinics by $100 million.

Earlier in the year, Biden was actually Obama’s rival as he sought the party’s presidential nomination. But he dropped out after the Iowa caucuses in Jan. 3. He also ran for president in 1988 but withdrew after he was accused of plagiarizing a speech.

He is currently chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations and is said to be chosen to run with Obama, among other reasons, for his foreign policy experience.

On Iraq, Biden differs from Obama. While Obama has made his opposition to the Iraq war clear in his campaign, Biden voted in October 2002 for the final resolution authorizing military action.

Biden’s son, Joseph Robinette Biden III – Delaware’s attorney general – will be deployed in October to Iraq.

"I don't want him going," Biden told an Iowa state fair crowd a year ago. "But I don't want my grandsons or granddaughters going back in 15 years. So how we leave makes a big difference,” according to WorldNetDaily.

On the domestic issues of marriage and the homosexual agenda, the Delaware senator voted against the marriage protection amendment that would define marriage as between a man and woman in 2006.

He also voted in favor of the Federal Hate Crimes Act that would add gender identity or sexual orientation to the list of hate crimes with federal punishment that originally included race, color, religion, national origin, and gender.

Biden received 0 percent on the FRC Action Scorecard for the current 110th Congress, which rates congressmen based on their voting records on issues affecting the family.

However, he received 100 percent in the Planned Parenthood Scorecard and 100 percent in Americans United Scorecard for the 109th Congress. He was given an F grade from the National Taxpayers Union Congressional Rating and an F grade from National Rifle Association.

Presumptive Republican nominee John McCain on Saturday complimented Obama’s running mate selection. McCain called Biden a “good selection” and “a good friend.”

“Joe and I have been friends for many, many years, and we know each other very well, and so I think [Obama’s] made a very wise selection,” McCain said on CBS Evening News.

“I know that Joe will campaign well for Senator Obama, and so I think he's going to be very formidable. Obviously, Joe and I have been on different philosophical sides, but we have been - I consider him a good friend and a good man."

As for McCain’s VP pick, he has not decided, according to GOP officials. Potential running mates for McCain include former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

McCain is expected to announce his running mate after the Democratic National Convention.

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  • Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Nothing like the hypocritical religious right and conservatives, touting family values as they pimp a woman who doesn't even take care of her own home... and a man (you know, the husband of CAROL) who ABANDONED his wife and kids...

    unbelievable

  • Tom »
    Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:23 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Stan Jesus also said not to murder and He said to defend the innocent and to protect them, of which biden has no intention of doing. So good man or not he is for the killing of the innocent so one can get rid of a consequence of their actions. That is really righteous now isnt it.
    Gods Bless in Christ Tom

  • Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:27 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I agree stanjz with your take on wealth - I like how Rick Warren has approached his success.

  • Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:29 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    I'm disappointed in this attack on Biden. Here is an honest and loyal family man. You won't find a more honest political person than Joe Biden or one who cares for the less fortunate. You look at some of the other Republican candidates and marriage and it's a horror show. That's hypocrisy. Leave Biden alone please. Biden has a net worth of something like $150,000 compared to what 100 million for Senator McCain. We know what Jesus says about the wealthy in the New Testament. It's not a pretty picture.

  • Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:48 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Daniel Paul, you mistake my shorthand version of McCain's issue for being laden with all of the details. I'll make the statement more clearly. Flames like yours are a bit insulting, but I'll try to answer you rationally. I hope other readers will refrain from the rash assumption that I'm the world's worst hypocrite because I didn't chase a doctrinal track that is irrelevant to the subject.

    Instead of: "If you divorce your wife, and marry another you are ACTIVELY living in sin."

    Try: "If your wife wants to stay married to you (on record), and you fool around with multiple other women (all 10-20 years younger than you, out partying while you leave her at home, recovering from an accident), then marry the one with the best political and financial package (which happens to be money made selling booze through marketed often by targeting minors and promoting a sad dehumanized picture of women)... You have definitely crossed many biblical lines (adultery, fornication, dishonesty, tacitly approving encouraging brothers to stumble on a national scale...).

    THEN, if your whole political career's organizational and financial bedrock is THIS unfortunate relationship with your new mistress, that you left your wife for, (not because of a conversion that brought the 1 Cor. exceptions into consideration), you've started to lose me.

    (I didn't originally want to go into every detail because they are pretty disturbing - If you're doubting or still want more detail, look up his other affairs with a Brazilian model, among others - I'm going to drop it).
    Also, my primary point was not to dwell on the sin, but on the question of do we endorse such a political figure with our votes?

    Directly again to Daniel Paul: Yes, there is an exception to my statement about divorce, but it clearly does NOT apply in this instance, and is irrelevant to McCain's behavior (matter of very public record, I assumed most people were aware that it was not a marriage that drifted apart because someone became a Christian).

  • Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Quit being so self rightious and judgemental, there is none that do good, no not one."

    I'm just not willing to elect the fox to guard the hen house. Obama's voting record speaks for itself. It also contradicts much of what he has said in his campain. The man can't even agree with himself. This is not being judgemental. It's being rational.

  • Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Mccain becuse he said that he would see no problem in keeping us at war in iraq even if it ment being there for the rest of the century."

    As I have repeated from time to time... I lived at a college in the southern Philippines for a time growing up. It was in that city where the bike bombs were going off in front of churches for a while. We could see the island where the missionary was killed. At that time Iraq and Iran were at war with each other. There were two factions of muslim extreamists on the island. One was funded by Iran and the other by Iraq. These two countries have been funding world wide terrorism for decades.

    What do they want. They want you dead. Yep...you being anyone who is not a muslim extremist. This is why they have no problem blowing up other muslims. They have no problem using MR (mentally retarded) people as human bombs and blowing them up in markets by remote control (you missed that one on the news?). We will either fight them there or here. Why? It's THEIR goal. Nothing but their own death will stop it.

    If we stop fighting them over there...we WILL fight them over here.

  • Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "If you divorce your wife, and marry another you are ACTIVELY living in sin."

    So, you believe the book of I Corinthians is not the word of God? Paul is very specific about an unbeliever who has chosen not to live with you. In your effort to vilianize McCain you make a statement which the Bible says is incorrect.

    This means for this mistake you shall be forever considered on this board to be a hypocrite who doesn't know the Bible. Is that fair? It's just as fair as your statement about McCain. You live by the sword...you die by the sword.

  • Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    bossman, I agree that I would rather fellowship with many catholics than with liberal evangelicals when it comes to social issues, but a far as doctrine is concerned I personally would have a hard time being in fellowship with many catholics since many of their doctrines are not in line with the Word of God.

  • Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:54 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I think devout Catholics are saved. Even though I'm protestant, I'd rather align myself with the Catholic church (the serious strain) than with squish-bomb liberal evangelicals.

    msnchris is right, evangelicals don't know what we believe, and should talk about doctrine more often. But I would argue the Catholic church is far from being immune to the disease of doctrinal and political liberalism.

  • Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    So if u vote for obama, you automaticly suport someone who supports murdering babies, but what gets me is that your just as wrong then supporting Mccain becuse he said that he would see no problem in keeping us at war in iraq even if it ment being there for the rest of the century. He supports war, isnt this a christian issue too? In war born babies are dieing from bombshells, our brothers and sisters are dieing, either way if you vote, you support someone who is justifying killing, be it in the womb or out its still unneeded death going on, done by human hands, so before you cast a stone at a brother supporting obama, look at what mcain supports you hypocrates. Quit being so self rightious and judgemental, there is none that do good, no not one.

  • Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Liberal Schmiberal - If you divorce your wife, and marry another (particularly the one you were already sleeping around with, I would think), you are ACTIVELY living in sin. While I don't want to judge him personally, I can't be OK supporting him as the best this country has to offer.

    Additionally - McCain can barely talk about his faith, and has vocally disparaged Christian leaders in the recent past. His pro-life credentials seem largely like a pander, and he has mostly avoided any personal action on any of the issues we care about.

    Obama is long winded, and won't get my vote for other reasons, but at least he talks about his relationship with Christ convincingly to me (to believe he might actually have one).

  • Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:21 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    How many years ago was that, Bob? I sure am glad people accept my growth out of previous mistakes. The difference between McCain and Obama is who they are today. That's who we are electing.

    What you're saying is that Obama shouldn't get elected because he's a drug user. Yes, he 'experimented' with drugs in his younger days (which wasn't all that long ago) but is he using them today.

    This 'McCain left his wife so you shouldn't vote for him' is just another example of liberal hypocracy and double standardism which is so common among democrats. It was a long time ago and he has learned from it.

  • Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:20 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    At least he didn't leave his first wife for his rich mistress, like the candidate that we are supposed to have to vote for this election. I don't like giving McCain my vote because of this, even ignoring all my other problems with him.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    chris, as far as a Christian voting for the wrong person losing their salvation, I don't think so. If you take McCain and Obama and make a list of where they stand on all the issues I am sure that both of them would be in disagreement with where we as Christians believe they should stand on issues. And if you consider the fact that Christians can't agree on where Christians should stand on some issues it's easy to see why. So if both candidates disagree on issues in a way we as Christians believe they should stand then we as Christians can't vote for either one of them for fear we'll lose our salvation. Plus, I believe that the Bible clearly teaches that a truly born-again believer can't lose their salvation and as a matter of fact it says in the Book of Hebrews if it were possible for a person to lose their salvation they can never be saved again.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:53 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    chris, if catholics are so good at listening to their bishops and the pope then why are so many of them using birth control? I'm sorry I just not convinced that too many catholics look to their bishops or the pope for guidance in many areas of their life. It's not that they are necessarily opposed to what the bishops or pope says, but they basically make up or have their mind made up already on many issues to include political issues.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    bossman, I hear you loud and clear, but at the same time if a Christian adult needs to be told how to vote by their minister or other religious leader then maybe they are not properly prepared to vote. A person should know where they stand on the issues and where the candidates stand on the issues. Church leaders should perhaps provide their people with information about the issues and the candidates, but to tell them who to vote for or threaten them with losing their salvation if they don't vote for the right person I believe is just stretching their roles a wee bit too much.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 6:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    here's the deal... The moral perspective is.. who's policies will move us closer to order and away from chaos? Is it better orderedto believe in the sanctity of life? Is it better ordered to believe in the sanctity of marriage? Is it better ordered to destroy evil instead of negotiating with it? is it better ordered to allow tax payers to hold on to their own money rather than giving it to the government? The internal polls show that when asked the question, "Who do you think is better able to keep America safe?" its over 60% in favor of John McCain and that poll will dictate what people really do in the voting booth

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Prayer chain request for McCain. Please everyone pray for John McCain to pick a strong Christian for VP and pray that God will bless McCain's campaign for victory.

    Every Monday at 5pm PST. Pray for McCain for President!

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    believer,

    I've travelled across the country and the vast majority of Catholics do care what their Bishop says. Of course we are talking about Catholics who attend Mass regularly. The Pope has explicitly come out against people who say they are Catholic Christians and yet do not vote like a Catholic concerning intrinsic evil issues. Many of these Catholics who are not in communion with the Church's moral values might never been saved in the first place and are only Christian in name only. There are plenty of those in every Church.

    Also, almost every Catholic cares what the Pope says over their own local Bishop and we all know where the Pope stands on the issues.

    Believer, do you believe that you cannot lose your salvation if your vote licitly supports abortion which is murder? Narrow is the gate, my friend. I wouldn't want to even be licitly tied with a murderer because we all know what Jesus says about if you do something harmful to his little ones right?

    Shuckscreation,

    Yes, salvation is always through Christ. We defined that doctrine in the first century, so let's not go that way, eh? We Catholics might think that you Protestants don't think enough about doctrine which is why you are all divided. The more united in faith and doctrine you are the more powerful your witness for Christ.

    When you don't hold fast to all the doctrines of the Church, you see where that has gotten you division upon division and where new aberations like Jehovah's and Mormons call themselves Christians exactly because they did not hold to the basic doctrines of Christianity.

    McCain 2008! Liberalism is a mental disease!

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "The whole 'wolf in sheep's clothing' thing."

    Which has been my observation of what the majority of Catholics are. I guess that's what happens when you worry too much about doctrine and not enough about salvation through Christ.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    believer

    Maybe people who vote for abortion, euthanasia, cloning, gay marriage, embryonic stem cell research (or people who support these things) aren't saved to begin with. The whole "wolf in sheep's clothing" thing.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    chris, with all do respect most catholics I know could care less when it comes to what their bishop say. They are going to do what they want to do and especially when it comes to something as private and personal as who they will vote for. Plus, do you really believe someone can lose their salvation for voting for the wrong candidate? It seems like if that were the case a lot of catholics wouldn't vote for fear of voting for the wrong candidate and losing their salvation.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    The nomination is a huge critical mistake for Obama. Why you may ask? Well, Biden is a lame Catholic who does not agree with Catholic social and moral teachings on grave issues which are ALWAYS INTRINSICALLY EVIL like; abortion, euthanasia, cloning, gay marriage, embryonic stem cell research. Biden is for all of these like Obama.

    Now that Biden is in the picture, now the Catholic bishops across the USA will inform church going Catholics that Biden is not in communion with the Church. What does this all mean to all you non-Catholics.

    When our church speaks, the members listen especially when the bishops tell you that your salvation is at Risk if you support candidates who support intrinsically evil acts. Your vote makes you an accomplice, and therefore you will be denied communion on a local level and could be excommunicated.

    67% of Catholics voted for Bush in the last election because of the pressure the Bishops put on the members reminding them of moral values. The Church's authority among its faithful is still extremely strong.

    McCain now has a better chance because the Bishops truly dislike "LAME" Catholics like Biden.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "lame excuse of... leave it to the states?"

    Actually, to have it dictated from DC would make us more like China. Is that what you prefer? Federalism says each state has rights of it's own and must be respected by the Federal level.

    Communism, on the other hand, says there are no rights except those given by the 'state' to itself. States or people who think otherwise are traitors.

    Which leads to a logical question, Diana626. Are you communist (part of the American Communist Party)?

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "better minds than yours tried to sell it"

    Actually, that's the problem. It's already been paid for. Christians have been 'bought with a price'. So many people try to add to what Jesus did. The problem is not with the 'product' but with the packaging man has tried to wrap it in.

    The gospel is simply this. You give your messed up life to Christ in exchange for the life He has for you to live. (I've found that His is much better.) You're life isn't messed up? Well now. Jesus said it is the sick that need a doctor...not those who are well.

    "all you have left is the victim card"

    Actually, true Christianity views Jesus as the willing victim to pay the price for our sin. We are not the victim. Those who play the victim don't really have a good grasp on the Gospel.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:09 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    it is now increasing clear. the problem is not that americans don't get the christianist message. it is, quite simply, you can't sell it. your fear and terror is so old. better minds than yours tried to sell it five hundred years ago and they had to use torture as the deal breaker. now you stand alone. and all you have left is the victim card. put the talking snake in the suitcase and go home.

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hey hypocrites...
    Did you ask McCain why he didn't' vote for the Marriage Amendment and why he keeps using the lame excuse of... leave it to the states? Why don't you ask McCain what he thinks about one state having sodomy marriage and another not, and then the states suing each other and therefore leaving it in the hands of "courts" when weasel senators like McCain could have voted for it based on what the people think?

    Hypocrites... why don't they ask McCain about leaving his first wife when she was recovering and he was whoring around with another woman (soon to be wife number 2 before the ink was dry on divorce)?

    Selective "pro-family" sin hypocrites...

  • Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    This nomination of Biden is a critical mistake for Obama. Unfortunately, John McCain is such a weak candidate he may not be able to take advantage of it. I think it is our Christian duty to vote though we truly lack a voice at the table this election cycle. Pray.

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