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Society|Sun, Sep. 14 2008 08:02 AM EDT

Palin's Nomination Adds Fuel to Abortion Debate

By David Crary|AP National Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - The abortion debate is gaining a higher campaign profile this year than in other recent general elections, partly because of divisive ballot measures and partly because of Sarah Palin.

Veteran leaders in the anti-abortion camp say they have never before seen the degree of enthusiasm that greeted Palin's selection as John McCain's Republican running mate. She opposes abortion even in cases of rape or incest, and lived out her convictions by bearing an infant son she knew had Down syndrome.

"We're thrilled," said Karen Cross, political director of the National Right to Life Committee, after Palin was chosen. At the same time, the NRLC denounced Democrat Barack Obama as "the most pro-abortion candidate ever nominated by a major political party."

Abortion-rights groups, meanwhile, are hailing Obama and running mate Joe Biden as staunch allies and denouncing the GOP ticket. NARAL Pro-Choice America reports a surge of donations and volunteers since Palin's nomination and depicts the GOP platform as "the most anti-choice ever put forward."

The battle lines extend to South Dakota, Colorado and California, where voters on Nov. 4 will decide the fate of abortion-related ballot measures. Colorado is also shaping up as a swing state in the presidential race.

The California measure, similar to proposals defeated twice before, would require a 48-hour waiting period and parental notification before minors could obtain abortions.

The other measures are far more sweeping. South Dakota's would outlaw abortions except in cases of rape, incest or a serious threat to the mother's health; Colorado's would define human life as beginning with "the moment of fertilization" โ€” a clear challenge to abortion rights.

Leslie Durgin of Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains said abortion-rights groups believe they can defeat the Colorado measure if they can explain its ramifications to voters. The anti-abortion movement itself is divided over the amendment, with the National Right to Life Committee and Colorado's Roman Catholic bishops declining for strategic reasons to endorse it.

The bishops said the measure could be thrown out in a legal challenge that would only serve to reaffirm the right to abortion.

In South Dakota, the vote on the abortion ban is expected to be close.

In 2006, voters there defeated a more sweeping ban โ€” with no exceptions for rape or incest โ€” 56 percent to 44 percent, and anti-abortion activists say they believe the new version will prevail. Their long-term goal is to trigger a legal challenge of the ban that would reach the U.S. Supreme Court and give it a chance to overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling establishing a right to abortion.

Leslie Unruh, leader of the pro-ban campaign, said she and her colleagues in South Dakota were elated by McCain's choice of Palin.

"Baby Trig put a face on what we've been trying to say," said Unruh, referring to Palin's infant son. "There's never been a role model for us as well-known as Sarah Palin."

Another opponent of abortion, Connie Mackey of the Family Research Council, said Palin offered a potentially invigorating contrast to politicians who lent only rhetorical support to the anti-abortion cause.

"The pro-abortion contingent didn't think there would be anyone this high profile who'd not only talk the talk but walk the walk," Mackey said. Continue »

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  • Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:21 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "Obama's idea of holding teachers accountable is working with teachers and unions to come up with a guidline of expectations. "

    Sure sounds like the fox guarding the hen house.

  • artm »
    Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:01 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    America's problems cannot be fixed through education, welfare reform, or by being born on the right side of the tracks.

    America's problems are a result of sin. When the Church gets it's act together and truly begins to be what Christ intended the Church to be and do, then and only then will America be made whole.

    God is going to lay the failour's of this Nation on the door step of the Church.

    The Church has become so worldly, and has comprimised the Word of God so much in these last days, that you will search far and wide to fine something that even resembles the Church.

  • Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:23 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Obama's idea of holding teachers accountable is working with teachers and unions to come up with a guidline of expectations. If given that choice a teacher is not going to advocate lets set the bar high, they will look at what will I be able to obtain myself so I don't loose my job.
    McCain wants parents and university educators to help make the bar so that expectations are met for college. This is a much better plan especially since he advocates higher pay so that intelligent people who can obtain those high goals will be willing to teach.

  • Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:51 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Stan, do you think that America is explicitly a Christian country?

  • Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Obama's plan places key emphasis at early care and education for infants, which is essential for children to be ready to enter kindergarten."

    That's just plain nuts. Studies have proven that pre-K programs don't make up for the real problem of K-12.


    "Obama will also improve NCLB's accountability system so that we are supporting schools that need improvement, rather than punishing them."

    I'm dealing with schools who refuse to follow the rules. They will not stop until they are forced to. I'm dealing with a case right now where a school district refused to examine their own data!!! This is just another uninformed pie in the sky position by Obama.

    "Obama will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs,"

    Exactly where is he going to get that money from...just print more? It's economic suicide.

    The list goes on at his website but his education plan needs to be rewritten by someone educated on what is really going on in our schools.

  • Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:45 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Obama has ideas on how to change the problems in this country such as education and welfare rather than leave them the way things are. "

    That's news to me. What are the details. All I've heard him say is how it's broken and we need to fix it. The stuff I've heard him say will only paint over the rust of an old broken system. No real changes.

  • Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Many Reagan Democrats are voting for McCain for the pro-life and pro-traditional value vote. They also like low taxes too!

    Obama is just too extreme. He is no democrat, he is a marxists/socialist.

    Wbmoore,

    Preach it!!! I am with on this one!

  • Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Basically, Obama stands for nothing, but supports everything I dont. So I see no reason to vote for him.

  • Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    OK, and her actions have shown that she kept hundreds of thousands of dollars earmarked for the bridge to nowhere after the project was rejected to spend on a state with a smaller population that Obama was responsible for. Obama has ideas on how to change the problems in this country such as education and welfare rather than leave them the way things are. Things like abortion and gay marriage he does not have a stance on because he does not believe its necessary for the federal government to mandate that (although he does think the Defense of Marriage ACT and Don't Ask Don't Tell are rediculous pieces of federal legislation.) If you want to comment on the man, do your research.

  • Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "(as shown by Palin's terrifying track record!)"

    Give her time...she may actually get as good at covering up her actions as the democrats!!! LOL

    In all seriousness though... Over the past 40 years I haven't seen any worse. At least she sold the plane and taxed big oil. That's a good start.

    I think the problem is we want people to 'fix' the problem. What we don't understand is that you can't make filet minion out of hamburger. It's a one way trip.

    It's time to stop the co-dependent approach to government and do some drastic repair. Obama's plans simply paint over the problem. They are only skin deep. Talk about putting lipstick on a pig!

    You change things by doing things like selling the plane, taxing those who are making profit at the expense of the country and doing your own cooking in the Governors Mansion.

    Actions speak louder than words. It's not about what you have but what you do with it that matters.

  • Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:31 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    McCain has a track record of authoring legislation and getting things passed. Obama has written two books on himself. His hubris seems to know no bounds.

    I like lower taxes. I want our country safe. I want judges who will not make law from the bench. I want social and financial conservatives in office.

    I dont believe Obama has ever come clean with what he believes about anything, he flip-flops so much. Obama seems to publicly say what ever the polls say will get him what he wants. I don't believe the extreme Democrats are good for this country (and Obama seems to be one of the most extreme).

  • Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:57 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    OK, but a vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for financial dishonesty and increased national debt (as shown by Palin's terrifying track record!)

  • kami »
    Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:32 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Incest and Rape account for only 1-2% of all abortions preformed. Particularly within incest crimes in quite a few cases it's the offender who forces the victim to have the abortion in order to cover up his crime. In a majority of cases the woman willfully keep the child and allow the birth to occur to avoid inflicting a second act of violence on a human being. The vast majority of cases regarding abortion are that of "convenience": mothers who opt to do away with the the child out of their own selfish desires. The right of choice comes before human life begins, before conception. Not after. Sadly, too many have fallen for the many myths put out by Planned Parenthood and other Abortion activists in order to increase business.

    Incidentally, how many realize a vote for Obama is a vote for infanticide? His campaign may not overtly state this to the public. However he is on record as voting down both bills which would insure that if a child survives an abortion he/she must be afforded the medical care one would offer to any human being. (www.nrlc.org for references) The one bill he voted down since it did not have a provision for the "health of the mother". Which, doesn't make sense since this is about -after- the baby has been born.

    He's also promised the Abortion lobbyists in Washington D.C. the first thing he'll do in office is sign into law FOCA (Freedom of Choice Act) which would strip every Pro-Life victory so that his daughters "would never have to be punished with a pregnancy".

  • artm »
    Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:29 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Yes, I will stick with McCain. He is the better choice for this Country.

  • artm »
    Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:25 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    P.S. 50 million people die every year from Malnutrition and Preventable diseases. And " 50 Million " unborn babies have been killed thus far in America through abortion. And four million will die every year.

    And God is not pleased.

  • Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:24 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    You mean you'll stick with McCain?

  • artm »
    Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    TO become pregnant through rape is no doubt a very horible experience to say the least. But to say, The saving of that childs life makes no sense, is quite a statement.

    That must be why obama refused to support a bill that would have saved the life of a child that was born due to a botched abortion. I believe they called it, " The baby born alive bill "

    So I don't know about anyone else, But I would rather have someone in office who values life rather than someone who doesn't.

    Because maybe next time, It be will the elderly, or the sick, maybe the poor whose lives are in these people's hands.

    No thanks Obama, I'll stick with Palin.

  • Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    You don't demonstrate Christ's love when you call someone a demon. Sarah Palin's stance on having a women who is raped forced to carry the rapist's child to birth makes no sense. It was against her will and you take away the free will argument when you do that. Again, 50 million people die every year to malnutrition and preventable diseases around the world, but the GOP seems more concerned about tax cuts for the wealthy.

  • artm »
    Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:48 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    A relationship with God is no doubt the most Important relationship a person can have in this world, while that may not qualify her for office it can't hurt, and it sure is better than than having no relationship with God.

  • Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:13 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Just because Palin has a relationship with God she must be the right person for the job?!? She is playing you all like a fiddle, saying whatever you want to hear so she can become your president.

  • Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:22 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    <Please, think about issues the candidates will have control over. Abortion is not one of them, or else G.W. would have reversed Roe V. Wade a long time ago!>

    The president has significant influence over the abortion debate.

    By executive decision, the president can sign or veto the "Mexico Policy" on tax funding of international organizations that perform abortions.

    The president has the responsibility of nominating the Supreme Court justices. Each justice will have significant influence in the Supreme Ct. for decades to come.

    The yardstick for measuring a president's "control" over the abortion issue is not whether Roe v. Wade has been overturned. There are many complicated factors for decreasing abortions and passing life-affirming laws.

    Still, that does not detract from the significance of the president's influence in using the bully pulpit for speaking out towards a culture of life.

  • artm »
    Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:16 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Palin may not have that much experience, certainly Obama doesn't have that much either. But there is one thing she does seem to have that Obama doesn't.

    A genuine realationship with God. And because of that relationship I trust that God will be involved in her decision making.

    Obama claims to be Christian but his stand on Abortion gives me reason for doubt.

    Also his so called slip about his " Muslim faith " gives me reason for concern. Some will argue there is no proof he is muslim, I believe there is reason to be concerned, and proof.

    I do believe there is a God, I believe that God is going to judge America as a Nation, and for many reasons. So, to have someone in office who has a genuine relationship with God is Important to me.

    I believe that person is Palin. This is just my thoughts on the matter. I love this Country as I am sure many do, I believe that the God of the Bible is best for this Country. artm

  • Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:14 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    <Until the influence of the religious right-wing over politics is dealt with, America will teeter on the edge of theocracy.>

    Such fear-mongering overstatements from the left-wing don't add much to the discussion. A theocracy will not occur in the U.S. with the Constitution drawing the boundaries.

    If there are concerns of theocracy, then one should look towards the Muslim countries where converts from the Islamic faith face the death sentence.

  • Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Just because Palin stands on the Christian side of arguments does not mean she will be a good leader for our country! Please, think about issues the candidates will have control over. Abortion is not one of them, or else G.W. would have reversed Roe V. Wade a long time ago! Palin simply does not have good sense when it comes to financial spending, and her record shows that.

  • artm »
    Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:56 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    1-Tim 5:22 says, " Neither be partaker of other men's sins."
    Yes women are guilty in the sight of God, But who is twisting the arms of these candidates, they are interested in one thing old, getting elected.

    If that means passing laws that allow women to kill an unborn baby, so be it.

    Yes I blame the Candidates. and God will hold them accountable also. they are partakers of this wicked sin to.

  • Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:59 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    who slaughters babies? is it the candidates? is it YOU? no, it is women. women, women, women. So instead of blaming pro-choice candidates (who say that abortion is not up to THEM, but rather the choice is up to women who GET it ), why dont you grab your pickets and shove the message into the faces of women across the country. Stop blaming candidates.

  • Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:53 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Until the influence of the religious right-wing over politics is dealt with, America will teeter on the edge of theocracy.

  • artm »
    Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:01 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Until the slaughter of four million babies each are dealt with in this country, America will stay on the edge of God's righteous judgment.

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