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Study: Abortion Disproportionately Affects Black, Old, Poor Women

By Lawrence Jones|Christian Post Reporter

While the overall abortion rate has declined dramatically over the past 30 years, a new study shows, the rates fell more among white women and teenagers than among black, Hispanic, old and poor women.

A report released Tuesday by the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization associated with Planned Parenthood Federation of America, examined abortion rates in the U.S. between 1974 – the year after Roe v. Wade – and 2004.

"There's been a shift in the population of women obtaining abortions relative to 30 years ago," said Rachel Jones, a senior research associate at the institute, according to HealthDay. "They are older, they are more likely to be unmarried, more likely to be mothers, and they are more likely to be women of color."

The study found the rate of abortions is at its lowest point since 1974, dropping 33 percent from a peak of 29 abortions per 1,000 women, ages 15 to 44, in 1980 to 20 per 1,000 in 2004.

In the past two decades, the total number of abortions dropped from 1.6 million in 1984 to 1.2 million in 2004.

From 1974 to 2004, the rate of abortion fell among teenagers, declining 33 to 17 percent among women younger than 20, and 15 to 6 percent among those younger than 18.

But the rate of abortion increased among women in their 20s and 30s. Women who chose abortion are more likely to have children already and 47 percent who had an abortion said they had undergone the procedure before. Also, more women obtaining abortions are poor or low-income, according to the study.

The report showed a decline in abortion rates across racial and ethnic groups. However, Hispanic and black women were more likely to have an abortion, at rates three to five times the rate of white women.

"We know from other research that having lower income makes a woman more likely to get an abortion. Women of color tend to be lower-income, and so in turn when confronted with an unintended pregnancy are more likely to have an abortion," said Jones, according to The Washington Post.

Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council, attributed the disparity to Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest abortion provider.

“Planned Parenthood has preyed on minorities since its founder advocated negative eugenics! If Congress truly wants across-the-board reductions in abortion, our leaders will have to stop funding its biggest provider,” said Perkins.

Michael J. New, an assistant professor of political science at the University of Alabama who works with the Family Research Council, told the Post that pro-life legislation makes a difference in abortion rates.

"The states with the most active pro-life laws have seen the biggest abortion declines," he said, noting that increased contraceptive use, more teenagers delaying sex and state laws requiring parental consent have all played a role in reducing teen pregnancies.

The Guttmacher Institute was originally founded as the Center for Family Planning Program Development and constituted as a semiautonomous division of Planned Parenthood. The early development of the Institute was nurtured by Alan F. Guttmacher, who served as PPFA's president for more than a decade, according to the Guttmacher Institute website. The institute later became an independent, not-for-profit corporation in 1977 and remains a "special affiliate" of PPFA.

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  • Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Did Obama support the murder of Christians in Kenya? Aparently he raised $1 million dollars to his uncle who did.

  • Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    yes, I had no formal sex education in school, but I still knew how to properly use a condom as did my son who only received abstinence only education. They do come with instructions.

  • Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I fully support the right of parents to pull their children out of class for sex education. That is a far better, and more widely productive, solution than changing the curriculum to be fully in line with any religion's specific teaching. After all, the US allows the Amish to remove their kids from public school after a certain age. That being said there are repercussions from depriving your children of a full education regarding sex ed, that you as parents have to prepared to live with. As an illustration, as parents, which of the following scenarios would you prefer:
    1) Your child, against your will, is subjected to sex education beyond abstinence only. Several years later your child succumbs to sin and engages in premarital sex. Because of the sex ed your child knows to use a condom and employ other precautions. As a result your child is unabashedly a sinner in your eyes but is not a parent or infected with an STD.
    2) Your child, in accordance with your wishes, is exempted from sex ed and never learns anything about safe sex or stds. Again, years later your child ends up having sex; however, this time, because all he or she has ever known is (premarital) sex is bad and dangerous and should not be done, no precautions are taken. As a result you end up as a grandparent and your child ends up as a parent with HIV.

    Sure, I know the obvious response is, "But with abstinence that would never happen." The issue is that no form of education is perfect and there's no guarantee that kids won't do stupid things without thinking them through. Would you rather have a child who has engaged in sin safely or one who sinned nonetheless and either became pregnant outside of wedlock or contracted a potentially deadly disease.

    I still think that if you can't get through to your own children about what matters most then you're doing something wrong as parents. Perhaps it's just a cultural difference but this whole mishigas about games and books indoctrinating kids to "worldly values" seems absurd, especially when you're talking about kids over the age of 4 or 5. Harry Potter and "Magic" Cards do not draw kids into the black arts. If they do either the kids are developmentally challenged or the parents have really dropped the ball.

  • Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "It is the manner in which those values and norms are instilled by the parents and the community that will determine how easily shaken they are by contrary ideas."

    The problem with this is that the media and educational system teach a morality that is diametrically opposed to the word of God. When the educational system does not allow parents to opt out of sex education, they remove the parents' ability to decide what is best for their children. When children spend so much time at school and doing homework (both of which indoctrinate the worldly values) and watching TV (which indoctrinates worldly values), and then playing games (which often indoctrinate worldly values) or with their friends (who are also indoctrinated to worldly values), there is little time left for the instilling of what God values. This did not used ot be much of a problem when the teachers and editors and authors producers mostly shared Godly values (or at least were prevented from teaching values contrary to God). However, this is no longer the case. Is it any wonder that youth leave the church as young adult when they have spent the majority of their life being taught by school and TV and movies and games that God does not exist and/or what He said is unimportant and/or inapplicable?

  • Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    yes, I do hear what your saying about what is being taught in public school systems and I agree that it is a decision that should be made by a school board, but I personally do believe many churches are dropping the ball by not taking time to teach their children and youth sex education from a biblical perspective and I would also support any groups who are trying to introduce abstinence only education into their local school districts, but at the same time I would respect the decision of the local school board as long as they allow all sides to be equally and fairly heard in this very important matter.

  • Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer, I respect your position and your moral dedication; however, there are some issues that must be addressed. First of all, we're talking about programs in public schools, not parochial ones. There's no compelling reason why Christian, or any religion's, ideals should be afforded the final say in how public school students are taught regarding the safe sex/abstinence debate. The public school system exists for the benefit of all student, regardless of color, creed or religious affiliation. For that reason, it seems to me that it would be most beneficial to take as many approaches to the situation as possible. Certainly we would all like to wish for a perfect world where children always behaved and exercised good judgment but they often don't. I've always been the sort to hope for the best but plan for the worst, just in case. Here I see it as bordering on reckless to deprive children (who are of an appropriate age) of a general sex ed involving the use of contraceptives. There is more risk of unmarried pregnancy and infection with an STD where children are left to fend for themselves and "teach" themselves about sex, a subject where there there is often no trial and error.

    I think the basic misunderstanding is that one can't maintain ideals and values when there is awareness that a world exists outside of those proscribed norms. Just because students might be educated in safe sex practices doesn't mean that they are a lost cause for abstinence. It is the manner in which those values and norms are instilled by the parents and the community that will determine how easily shaken they are by contrary ideas. Just as I couldn't pull out a book about Hinduism and by reading it to you shake you from your faith, a child raised in a Christian household, instilled with the values you hold dear, will not necessarily abandon abstinence as soon as he or she learns about condoms. Give your children and your parenting abilities a little more credit than that.

  • Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    yes, here is the bottomline for a Christian, do I encourage young people to violate God's standard for sexual purity by teaching them so-called safe-sex practices or do I teach them not only abstinence only but also why God desires them to abstain from sex until marriage and the positive consequences of abstinence? Do I disobey God because we are being led to believe they're going to do it anyways or do I stay true to God and obey Him?

  • Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:46 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer, I'm sure that you're correct that there are some STDs that can be passed along even if using condoms, which I will further concede are not 100% reliable. Nonetheless, even in the absence of perfect effectiveness and/or protection there is still utility to the availability of and education related to condoms and other prophylactics. I can sleep easy at night knowing that Christian children would never engage in premarital sex, obviating any need for safe sex practices; however, there are a quite a few non-Christians out there who will not practice abstinence. So wouldn't it make sense to make such protections available and understood?

    A bulletproof vest on a cop is not 100% effective in saving his life. He could get shot in the head or with armor piercing rounds. The only way to be 100% certain of avoiding death by gunshot, in the line of duty, for a cop is to never leave home. Drawing the parallel, just because condoms may not always work they do work most of the time and have some value.

  • Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ifeelfine, with regards to Sarah Palin and her daughter, you make an assumption that they only received abstinence only education. It is possible that they could have received so-called safe sex education or in the case of Sarah Palin no sex education at all. So to say abstinence only education doesn't worked based on Sarah Palin and her daughter is weak at best. But if young people are only receiving abstinence only education from one source and receiving so-called safe sex education messages along with being encouraged to go ahead and have premarital sex messages from the media and their peers then it would make it appear that abstinence only education is not working. An add to it Christians like yourself who are saying that it doesn't make sense to even promote abstinence only then there is a real good chance it will not be effective.

  • Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:02 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    yes, what about those STDs that can't be prevented from so-called safe sex practices such as using a condom? The only true safe sex is following God's plan for sex which is between one man and one woman married to one another.

  • Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:58 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    ifeelfine, so you condone drunk driving as long as the drunk wears their seatbelt, as I said if abstinence only sex education keeps one teen from having pre-marital sex then it is not only worth it, it is a success.

  • Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:05 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "doesn't sound like a very Biblical litmus test to me."

    You must have a different Bible than I do.... There are Biblical absolutes. These are things that are true no matter if we believe them or not. One is die to self and live for Christ or spend eternity in hell. There are many truths in the Bible. I went to the Obama website to look at his education ideas. He would bankrupt the country trying to pay for all that. The problem isn't more school (starting at age 3). The problem is making K-12 work. Why add two more grades to a failing system? It's been failing for quite some time.

    Clinton clarified with the IDEA '97 revisions that a special needs child could be arrested even if the school failed to provide the required behavioral services. In other words, children were given enough rope to hang themselves and the schools got off the hook.

    Lots of good talk from the Dems but the proof is in the children I work with. "Liberal compassion" isn't very compassionate when it comes to the children.

  • Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Third, and this is leveled mostly at Believer, it's not an issue of "saving" just one student from the stain of sin. It's about a broader goal of lessening social endemics, such as STDs and unplanned pregnancies which either lead to abortions or neglected children. I would rather see a dozen youths "suffer" from the sin of premarital sex than see one youth consigned to death as a result of AIDS or see a young mother abandon her child in a garbage can rather than care for it. For a community that seeks to eradicate the need for (or dare I go one step further and say the right to obtain) abortions it would seem that allowing those who are not Christian to learn effective safe sex practices would be in line with the ultimate goals sought.

    On a side note, it would be a refreshing thing to see people on this board recognizing that others' religious ideals and tenets are worthy of respect. It's alarming to see comments like "G-d will deal with [non-believers]." Mutual respect is the only way to bridge the gap between "believers and nonbelievers." I may often disagree with the viewpoints expressed here, but I'll never begrudge others the right to have them. It's a matter of understanding where people are coming from rather than picturing the world in staunch black and white terms, in with us or against us sense. At least that's what I think.

  • Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    On the whole abstinence only sex education issue:

    There are a couple of points to be made.

    First of all, is it really necessary to throw a ton of government money, culled from taxes paid by Christians and Non-Christians alike, at sex education when all you're saying is, "Don't have sex before marriage"? Seriously, it doesn't matter if you say it once or dozens of time. The kids will either get the message or they won't and it's not particularly nuanced or complicated. It's a advised blanket prohibition. So no reason to waste good money repeating the obvious refrain.

    Second, considering that it's not just Christians paying into the taxes that fund the schools and their sex ed programs, there's no reason that the entire programs should cater to that particular slant on the issue. There is still much to be gained from exposing those students who will no doubt, in their unregenerate states, sin and have premarital sex to the basics of safe sex. If parents object to their children learning about such things in school then the schools can allow those students to be excused from that portion of the lesson plan. There is no reason that a high school student who chooses to have sex should be at risk of an unplanned pregnancy or worse an HIV infection simply because parents of other students felt it was inappropriate for their children to learn safe sex. Remember, the public schools exist for all colors, creeds and religions and thus if you want a staunch christian education opt for a private school or just engage in old fashioned parenting as a supplement to public school.

  • Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:20 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    believer: Clearly it isn't working. Palin obviously didn't wait and neither did her daughter. And yes, if you are going to sin, sin safely. Should drunk drivers not wear their seatbelts? Apparently you feel they shouldn't.

    Anyway, you should check your sources.

  • Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:09 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    holito, the right to speak and people listening to us are not the same thing, I believe that we as Christians should set a Christ-like example for the world to see both in what we say and how we live our lives. I also believe we are responsible to let the world know that there are positive alternatives to issues such as abortion and that is why I serve as a board member and volunteer at our local Crisis Pregnancy Center.
    I agree that we can speak and no one has to listen. Isaiah6: 8-11
    8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

    9And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.


    10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

    11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,

    The healing cannot come because they do not listen to God. Hearing they understand not; Seeing they perceive not; The faithful can pray yes and God will aid them. But the unsaved and theirs will still perish. God cannot save a nonbeliever.
    So all those that are praying to God must also believe in Him. He that cometh to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him. 1st comes belief, not the blessing.

  • Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:26 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    ifeelfine, so since all people even Christians still sin, should we preach and teach that even though you shouldn't sin we know chances are you will so if you do sin, sin safely? Because the last time I checked the Word of God clearly teaches that sexual intimacy is reserved for the marriage bed of one man and one woman. If abstinence only sex education keeps even one young man or woman from sexually sinning before mattiage it's working and statistics show that there are teens who are listening to this message.

  • Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel Paul: Apperently your litmus test is abortion, same sex marriage and Republican politics - doesn't sound like a very Biblical litmus test to me.

  • Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    believer: Just look at your own VP nominee, Sarah Palin. She got pregnant before marriage as did her daughter. It doesn't sound like abstinence only sex education is working.

  • Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "No one here has the moral authority to say who is and who isn't a Christian."

    Only a fool calls an apple tree a grape vine. Some things are self evident. One could say because I say I am typing on a computer keyboard that I am being judgemental. Yes, I have made a judgement. It is based on knowing the difference between a computer keyboard and a piano keyboard for example.

    There is a difference between "judge not" and being stupid. The Bible says you shall know them by their fruit. Therefore, it is something the Bible calls us to 'judge'.

  • Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I would like to see the trends analyzed not with regard to race, but rather with regard to class/socioeconomic status, and education levels. It seems that this trend could just have easily been attributable to increased access to birth control advice and prophylactics. Further info is needed to fully ascertain any kind of cause-effect relationship.

  • Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:10 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    The problem is our society has been inured to sin. Hollyywood and 'educators' have convinced society that what God calls sin is good and what God calls good is bad. They have helped lead this country into its morass of sinful desires and behavior and desire to take the quick way out instead of accepting responsibility for our actions.

    We need to stop sex outside of marriage, divorce, selfishness, abortion, and a ton of other problems in this society. The BEST way to do this is to lead people to Christ and then disciple them. However, in the mean time, we need to protect innocent babies from being murdered, and make every legal and ethical attempt to change society to embrace the ideals God has laid out for us.

  • Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:34 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    holito, the right to speak and people listening to us are not the same thing, I believe that we as Christians should set a Christ-like example for the world to see both in what we say and how we live our lives. I also believe we are responsible to let the world know that there are positive alternatives to issues such as abortion and that is why I serve as a board member and volunteer at our local Crisis Pregnancy Center. And not only are we there to save the lives of unborn babies but also to be used of God in sharing the Gospel with the mothers and even fathers of these children. Plus we are being invited into several of our local schools to share the message of abstinence only sex education. Whether or not any one who hears these messages and lessons responds in a positive way is not up to us, but we do believe God is leading us to speak to these matters on His behalf.

  • Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer, yes there are many non-Christians homes in the USA. Thus, they do not follow the word of God. God will deal with them. However, God gave His people laws to follow. God expect you to do what you’re supposed to do.
    God did not force you to accept Christ, so why do you think we should force people to listen to us. If you want man to regulate your choices, you might find yourself living a communistic lifestyle very soon.
    God let the angels who wanted to join Lucifer do so on their own. God let Sodom and Gomorrah worship as they wanted. However, God had a punishment waiting for rebellious behavior.

  • Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Stanjz, you are incorrect or not very versed in biblical principles. Remember God said there would be false prophets and teacher among you. False teacher have students who are misguided in biblical truths. So if anyone says even nonbeliever are in heaven that’s a lie.
    While answering a question about his Christian faith, Obama said he believes that Jesus Christ died for his sins and through God’s grace and mercy he could have “everlasting life,” according to the Los Angeles Times.
    But he also believes Jews and Muslims and non-believers who live moral lives are as much “children of God” as he is, according to The Associated Press.
    As an example, he spoke about his late mother who was “not a believer.”
    "[S]he was the kindest, most decent, generous person that I have ever known," Obama said, according to the Times. "I'm sure she is in heaven, even though she may not have subscribed to everything that I subscribe to."
    Acts 19:13,15-16
    Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call on the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “We exorcise you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches.”
    And the evil spirit answered and said, “Jesus, I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?”
    Then the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, overpowered them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

  • Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:42 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    No one here has the moral authority to say who is and who isn't a Christian. The only thing you can say is whether their individual actions in certain circumstances are consistent with Christian values. Barack Obama never said that there was another way to heaven other than Christ Jesus. You are twisting what he said. Christ Himself said that many will come to Him at judgement day claiming they drove out demons in His name and He will say "begone you who practice evil." There is a big difference between saying Christ and doing Christ.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Do these kids not have parents?"

    Yep...and they are held at bay by the public school system who doesn't care what parents want as a rule. Some school districts don't even provide 'opt out' for students whose parents object to the sex ed program.

    As far as many public schools go the children don't have parents when the kids are at school. The children are 'wards of the state' when in school. In fact, Hillary wanted all US children to be 'wards of the UN'. The WH switchboard got burned out on that one.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    holito, plus what about the millions of kids who come from non-Christian homes who either don't care or are "open-minded" themselves.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    holito, I agree with you 110%, but considering a majority of kids spend many hours in institutes of secular humanism it is pretty naive to think their not going to be heavily influenced by what they are taught. Couple that with their sinful natures and you have got a potent formula for fornication. But both Christian parents and churches need to be doing their part in teaching godly and biblical truths and principles to include the areas of morals and values to our children.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:03 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    holito, unfortunately most sex education classes presently taught in many school systems inadvertently promote fornication because they make the assumption that no matter what you tell young people most of them will engage in premarital sex. They inadvertently make many of their students self-fulfilling prophecies.

    Schools have nothing to do with teach our kids about God. Do these kids not have parents? Where are the christian parent raising these kids? I do not expect the world to give me anything because the world hate my Savior. God and the world are enemies, thus you cannot expect the world to provide a godly nourishment.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    holito, unfortunately most sex education classes presently taught in many school systems inadvertently promote fornication because they make the assumption that no matter what you tell young people most of them will engage in premarital sex. They inadvertently make many of their students self-fulfilling prophecies.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Let not be igorant of God as Sodom and Gorrah or as Jeremiah, you cannot ask God to stop one thing when there are other sins He must address. Remember when the Jew tried to conqueror Ai, God did not go with them and they were defeated. God wants us to address fornication as well. Fornication leads to pregancy.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:52 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Foulness comes pouring out of the mouths of Christians here against another Christian(Obama)."

    Is "you shall know them by their fruits" not in your Bible?

    What about Jesus talking about that not all those who say 'Lord, Lord' on that day shall enter into the kingdom of heaven?

    Talk is cheap. His voting record is his fruit.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:46 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    viking, I should note that the Crisis Pregnancy Center in our area offers classes in all those areas as well as caring for the mom and her child for up to a year after the baby is born. They do however teach an abstinence only approach to sex education since that is the only true form of safe sex from a physical, emotional, and spiritual perspective. Plus, what concerns me is that several sex education programs being used in some school systems include abortion as a form of birth control.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:56 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    viking - Another powerful and true post! Thank you.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:02 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    We keep talking about abortion, and not about fornication. If you break any part of the law, you break all of the law.

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    Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:01 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    how could any woman be as filled with hatred as margaret sanger. It's hard to comprehend

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:53 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    viking, when the hiker got to the top he found a planned parenthood abortion mill flushing the babies down the drain. Part of the solution is closing down these places that are blatantly murdering and butchering these unborn babies.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:17 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Foulness comes pouring out of the mouths of Christians here against another Christian(Obama). Your Republican leadership contributes more to abortions than Democrats do. Your leaders allow corporations to ship jobs overseas with impunity. You vote down raising the minimum wage and you vote against health insurance for children. Yet you are in favor of sending 700 billion to millionaires on Wall Street.
    Christian(Obama)- is not a true Christian. A true christian would never says Christ is not the only way into heaven. If we do not bail out those companies, your 401k will be worthless. Your 401k is driven by the market. These are major companines that affect our market if they go under so does the market. It is not the government fault that all these companies went over seas. We cannot hold them accountable for every problem that happens in our society. If you want a China or other communist society, there are plenty of places to go. PS. China is against christianity.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:32 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    While it is clear that teenagers delaying initial sexual activity and increased contraceptive use both directly reduce unwanted pregnancy and thus abortions it is less clear how parental consent laws for abortion have a direct impact on unwanted pregnancy rates. Is the idea that two teenagers in the throes for passion stop and say oh year if she gets pregnant we are going to have to go and get her parents consent for an abortion and then say ok we better not? If this is the case do only white teens think this way? Don't get me wrong I am in favor of parental consent (with exceptions for incest, etc.) I just think the commentator was stretching for political reasons. That being said it seems to me we should be looking at why minority teens are getting pregnant more frequently in the first place. If that could be adressed the issue with Family Planning would be moot. Someone told me a story once that I think is apt. Some hikers came to a stream in the woods and to their surprise saw a baby floating down in danger of drowning. They joined hands and together saved the baby from the water. Just as they were congratulating each other another floating baby was seen approaching and again they joined to save the baby. In a few moments yep another baby floating down. One member started to walk away from the group. The others yelled to him "where are you going we have to save this baby" to which he replied "I'm going up this stream and stop whoever is throwing babies in the water". If we really want to reduce abortions we need to increase access and use of contraceptives, promote as communities the delay of sexual activity, and insist that men (including teens)take responsibility for their reproductive activity. Also we need to focus more resources to provide positive alternatives (adoption) to abortion when unwanted pregnancies occur. Also we must adress root causes of high unwanted teen pregnancies in minority groups which include both poverty and destructive cultural norms around male roles and responsibilities.

  • Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:30 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 4

    Foulness comes pouring out of the mouths of Christians here against another Christian(Obama). Your Republican leadership contributes more to abortions than Democrats do. Your leaders allow corporations to ship jobs overseas with impunity. You vote down raising the minimum wage and you vote against health insurance for children. Yet you are in favor of sending 700 billion to millionaires on Wall Street. Thank God your hypocrisy has reached the eyes and ears of the Lord of Hosts. You use abortion to get elected into office and nothing more.

  • Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Planned Parenthood promotes racist abortion policies and Obama sits pretty in its back pocket, complicit with such values. Can someone wake Obama up?

  • Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I guess Margaret Sanger's wish is coming true with regards to cleaning out all the impurities in our society, specifically the blacks and the poor.

  • Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:33 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    A vote for Obama is a vote for abortion.

  • Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    FullGospel is right. Obama supports a bill that would overturn every abortion limit in the country and result in 100-200,000 more abortions. See http://www.lifenews.com/nat4359.html

  • Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:26 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Could somebody please tell this to the Obama camp? He's helping Planned Parenthood continue Margaret Sanger's march against people of color and he doesn't even know it.

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