Not only is Sen. Barack Obama ahead in general national polls, but a new survey finds that the Democratic presidential candidate has made significant inroads among faith voters.
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(Photo: AP/Darron Cummings)Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., campaigns in Indianapolis, Ind., Wednesday, Oct. 8, 2008.
In comparison to the 2004 Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry, Obama has made significant gains among monthly worship attenders. Among this group of voters, who attend religious services once or twice a month, 60 percent support Obama in 2008 compared to 49 percent for Kerry in 2004, according to results from the report, “The Faith and American Politics Survey,” sponsored by Faith in Public Life and conducted by Public Religion Research.
Also unlike the 2004 election, more Americans think the Democratic candidate is friendly to religion than the Republican nominee. Forty-nine percent of Americans say Obama is friendly to religion, while 45 percent say the same of McCain.
This is a significant difference given that President Bush in 2004 won more than 60 percent of the religious vote.
The poll also found that 71 percent of Americans say it is important for public officials to be comfortable talking about religious values.
Besides looking at faith voters as a whole, the survey also delved into examining young faith voters, particularly Catholics and evangelicals.
It found that young Catholics (ages 18-34) are more supportive of Obama than older Catholics (ages 35 and older). While older Catholics are split between the candidates (46 percent for McCain and 44 percent for Obama), younger Catholics support Obama by a 15 percentage point margin over McCain (55 percent to 40 percent).
Younger Catholics are also more supportive of abortion, with six-in-ten saying it should be legal in all or most cases, compared to older Catholics, half of whom support legalizing the practice.
However, when it comes to young white evangelicals, this religious segment still remains strongly opposed to abortion rights, with two-thirds saying it should be illegal in all or most cases, and solidly backs McCain (65 percent).
But young white evangelicals are more likely to favor either same-sex "marriage" (24 percent) or civil unions (28 percent) than older evangelicals. Sixty-one percent of evangelicals age 35 and above want no legal recognition of homosexual relationships.
In other words, young white evangelicals are 2.5 times more likely than older evangelicals to say gay couples should be allowed to marry.
Among young white mainline Protestants and Catholics, nearly half (48 percent and 44 percent, respectively) support same-sex “marriage.”
“Younger Americans, including younger Americans of faith, are not the culture war generation,” commented Dr. Robert Jones, president of Public Religion Research and lead analyst of the poll, during the report’s teleconference on Wednesday.
“On issues from gay and lesbian rights to the role of government at home and around the world, young Catholics, mainline protestants and evangelicals are bridging the divides that entrenched their elders and ushering in an era of consensus in which the common good trumps the clash of ideologies.”
In this election year, culture war issues of abortion and same-sex “marriage” have been put on the back burner given the state of the economy and the financial crisis.
According to the survey, 83 percent of Americans say the economy is the most important issue in the 2008 election, followed by energy and gas prices (76 percent) and health care (71 percent).
Economic issues topped the list of most important issues among all religious groups polled. Even white evangelicals did not rank abortion or same-sex “marriage” among their top five most important voting issues.
Survey results are based on telephone interviews with a representative sample of 2,000 American adults and an over sample of 1,250 younger adults (ages 18-34). The poll was conducted under the supervision of Opinion Access Corp from Aug. 28 to Sept. 19, 2008.
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Daniel that's hilarious - a poll on the defectiveness of polls.
I'd like to do a poll here. Please thumb up or down if you think polls are stupid and really prove nothing!
Thumb up for stupid. Thumb down for not stupid.
holito8,
"This case is not closed."
It might as well be, she can run, but she can't hide.
Yet Palin claimed to reporters over the weekend that she had been "cleared of any legal wrongdoing, any hint of unethical activity."
That's just not true, and Palin knows it.
She kept repeating her silly contention at campaign stops, instructing one reporter to "read the report, sir."
And american people should read the report, here is the money quote.
"Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda."
(actual alaska report here)
http://download2.legis.state.ak.us/DOWNLOAD.pdf
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/10/11/response.branchflower.report.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/us/politics/11trooper.html?hp
agent, I don't have my history books nearby, but if I'm not mistaken at that time in our political system whoever got the 2nd highest number of votes in the preseidential election became the VP, so the Republican Party would not have nominated Andrew Johnson.
"Well, many people thought that Republican Abraham Lincoln was, but unfortunate after his assasination his Democrat VP overturned almost all of the work that he did for the black community"
Democratic VP, overturning 'most' (which ones, details?) for the black community? Besides seedy, if a former democrat turned republican was so obviously bad, why did the republican party see fit in nominating him? They are at least partially culpable, just like McCain and his choice of Palin.
Uhhh, not quite. Hamlin joined over to the Republican party several years prior to be being a VP....darn, those facts again.
..."on June 12, 1856 he withdrew from the Democratic Party and joined the newly organized Republican Party, causing a national sensation."
6 years later he'd be a VP...
"From the very beginning of his service in Congress he was prominent as an opponent of the extension of slavery;"
"...although he urged both the Emancipation Proclamation and the arming of African Americans."
Yup, sure sounds like a guy who would be pro-slavery if I ever heard one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Hamlin
"is there such a thing as a good president?"
Well, many people thought that Republican Abraham Lincoln was, but unfortunate after his assasination his Democrat VP overturned almost all of the work that he did for the black community much to the dismay of the Republicans who faught so hard for their freedom and gave up their lives.
True Christians who fast and pray for guidance on a daily basis will not put their trust in any politician.The US has avoided Christian persecution till now. But, the days ahead will TEST the faith of Christians worldwide. It is easier to wear Christianity on your sleeve than in your heart. In the future many of us will undergo the TEST for our FAITH. We, in the WEST have a false sense of security for our Christian faith. GOD BE WITH YOU"LL
Lord, I hope Obama doesn't. As I said earlier, if he does it will be like going from the frying pan into the fire.
As far as Bush is considered, he may have not been the best, but he sure beat the alternative. And is there such a thing as a good president?
Bush got us involved in a war. People are pissed off about it. Now if he hadn't gotten us involved, we would still be dealing with Saddam, and people would be pissed off. It doesn't matter what you do, people are going to get pissed off.
OK prophet, at least we can agree bush not the best prez we ever had. We will have to see how obama works out should he get elected, which my money says he will be the next prez.
scitsonga,
You said "feed up, come 1/2009, that evil will be removed after eight disaster filled years........"
Very true. Only to be replaced by a bigger evil....should Obama win....
feed up, come 1/2009, that evil will be removed after eight disaster filled years........
We need to also pray without ceasing that God will keep evil from the Whitehouse and Congress. Our way of life is at stake!
I love it pretty petty palin sure can dish it out, but doesnt take it very well when her character is being questioned. palin is like a lead weight for mccain, I bet he wished he hadn't gambled putting this unqualified bimbo on the ticket. disperate people do disperate things, US doesnt need another 4 years of poor decision making.
yeah right prophet, you got the correct set of beliefs and your goin to spend eternity in paradise while the "incorrect believers" goin to get the eternal torture treatment...........LOL, you make me laugh.
wrhalver, Well I got to tell you, the IEM poll seems to work pretty well. I remember I didnt want to believe it in 2004 when it was predicting bush to win, but win he did. As they stay in investing, "the trend is your friend", as an Obama supporter I like the trend.
I recall reading the guy who was fired said it was not because of her former brother-in-law. So its interesting the people who did not like her spanking the republican party leadership, plus people in the opposite party who want a dem elected pres came to this conclusion. Its also interesting that the investigation is supposed to be held by a specific group, which is not the legislature.
Daniel,
That goes along with surveys that state that 80% of Americans believe in God. So what? There's going to be a lot of "believers" in the wrong line on Judgement Day.
Just FYI, if enough investigation could be done I think DC would be mostly empty if this is considered abuse of power. I know here is SC we wouldn't have much government left!
"an investigation by the Alaska Legislature "
Are these not the same guys who were lining their pockets with big oil money that stopped flowing with Palin as Governor? Wow...their really credible....
A major survey says that most everyone who believes in heaven thinks they can get in....
so much for surveys.
Alaska Inquiry Concludes Palin Abused Powers
Sarah Palin abused the powers of her office by pressuring subordinates to try to get her former brother-in-law, a state trooper, fired, an investigation by the Alaska Legislature has concluded.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jOTk11gvqDAgD0cY3i4WjI_2YOxwD93O25DG0
Dont think sarah goin to be DC in 2009. Back to Alaska to face criminal charges of abuse of powers for starters. Alaskins will deal with her after Nov 4th defeat.
This case is not closed.
scitsonga
Thank you for your explanation.
Here is something that you may want to think about.
The past elections that are referenced by Rasmussen did not have the unusually higher voter turnout as was experienced during the most recent primaries.
It is likely that the polling numbers reflected the views of the hard core Party voters. These are the ones that will actually cast a vote. But this vote is based on Party affiliation and not personal preference.
This is why the polling numbers would match up pretty closely with the actual vote.
Both Parties have concern that the while the anticipated hard core Party vote seems to make the race appear relatively even, it is the rest of the voters who will make the difference.
Can they get the same unusually high voter participation in November that they had during the primaries? If so, the polling numbers will not be accurate.
The current polling numbers are a nice reference, but they have to target the non-hardcore voter who needs to show up at the polls to make the real difference.
You need to spend lots of money for that kind of tracking. The overall news media is not interested.
seed, I love your posts, they make me laugh, keep up the good work......
good questions wrhalver, I dont have a breakdown on the participants. If one were to research it, Im sure the info. is out there, the link below might address some of your question
However, IEM predicted a bush win in 2004. Democrats at the time said the polling was biased towards republicans because "republicans are more likely to invest in markets", never mind that IEM predicted clinton in '92 and '96. The link below is an interesting paper talking about the bush lead in Sept 2004.
http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/2004/09/29/market_kerry_two/
Here is an abstract for a paper written on the market approach for predicting elections :
Abstract
"Prediction markets" are designed specifically to forecast events such as elections. Though election prediction markets have been being conducted for almost twenty years, to date nearly all of the evidence on efficiency compares election eve forecasts with final pre-election polls and actual outcomes. Here, we present evidence that prediction markets outperform polls for longer horizons. We gather national polls for the 1988 through 2004 U.S. Presidential elections and ask whether either the poll or a contemporaneous Iowa Electronic Markets vote-share market prediction is closer to the eventual outcome for the two-major-party vote split. We compare market predictions to 964 polls over the five Presidential elections since 1988. The market is closer to the eventual outcome 74% of the time. Further, the market significantly outperforms the polls in every election when forecasting more than 100 days in advance.
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To address your other question, no I did not pay for the information. I will repost the web site for the IEM, thats where I get my information and some info. from google searches. I am not participating in the IEM.
Scit, If this is the best the liberal masses can come up with I think that it reveals just who really is "desperate."
scitsonga
You have said...
"Not really, the IEM is real money. Real people placing bets with real money on the outcome of the election."
Do you have the breakdown of who these real people are?
If you have paid for this information, please share it.
Thanks.
FYI
Alaska Inquiry Concludes Palin Abused Powers
Sarah Palin abused the powers of her office by pressuring subordinates to try to get her former brother-in-law, a state trooper, fired, an investigation by the Alaska Legislature has concluded.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jOTk11gvqDAgD0cY3i4WjI_2YOxwD93O25DG0
Dont think sarah goin to be DC in 2009. Back to Alaska to face criminal charges of abuse of powers for starters. Alaskins will deal with her after Nov 4th defeat.
Not like this country is in bad enough shape, let's make it worse and vote in Obama.
A man once told me "The road to hell is paved with Republicans."
I told him "Well, of course. Democrats need a smooth ride on their way home....."
"yeah prophet, "blind leading the blind"....LOL. all the way to Nov 4th win."
Yeah! Out of the frying pan....into the fire.
no seedling, just enjoying the ride..........
Scitsonga, you sitting in as an Evangelical tonight?
yeah prophet, "blind leading the blind"....LOL. all the way to Nov 4th win.
All his supporters....kinda like the blind leading the blind, eh scitsonga?
igh "Your Dollars, your Pesos, Euros, anything you got!"
Actually thats mccain, the poor lad and his lap dog are really hurting for cash. obama has plenty thanks to his millions of supporters...
halver "Ok, so we have another poll clearly showing the divide between liberal and conservative thinking."
Not really, the IEM is real money. Real people placing bets with real money on the outcome of the election.
GOTO web site and see for yourself. http://www.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/
believer, Here is an explanation of the IEM taken from their site:
2008 U.S. Presidential Election Markets
The IEM 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Markets are real-money futures markets where contract payoffs will be determined by the popular vote cast in the 2008 U.S. Presidential Election. There are currently two markets in this set:
Pres08_VS -- based on vote shares won by the two major party candidates in the 2008 U.S. Presidential election
Pres08_WTA -- a winner take all market based on the popular vote plurality winner of the 2008 U.S. Presidential election
See the market prospectuses for specific details of these markets.
The markets are open to all traders world-wide. Consult our on-line trader's manual for additional information.
Ok, so we have another poll clearly showing the divide between liberal and conservative thinking.
Now we just need to see how many of these people, who were so willing to answer these phone calls, are still willing to get to the voting booth where it really counts.
Official slogan of the demon-cratic party:
Change! We need Change!
Send us your Change!
Your Dollars, your Pesos, Euros, anything you got!
We need Change!
Bush was a hands off president as far as the fed government being supportive in social moral issues. At least Bush appointed Conservative Judges for the Courts - only ONE good thing as far being pro active regarding moral social concerns since he was too busy creating the more literal translation of "The End Times" scenerio War with IRAQ etc...instead of rebuilding America inside out! o well, * as I limp to the local soup kitchen jobless thus, not able provide a quality of life for family. PTL anyway!
He is a deceiver for sure prophet.
Those catholics may be informed, but not sure it's the correct information. Afterall, they have strayed from the truth. So their record isn't all that good in the "correct information" column.
scits, but I haven't got a clue what that data is telling us, please translate thanks, believer
ok, who's the wise guy flagging posts?
Obama comes across as being the closest thing to the Antichrist as I've seen so far. But that's just an observation.
blue1018 wrote this: You see, us informed Catholics know that the time has come to GIVE, to LOVE, and to CHANGE this world. Yes, Obama may support abortion; which is a big issue with voters. But he also is AGAINST bloody war, FOR peace with leaders of all - ALL - people, he is FOR the poor, has WORKED for the poor, and MADE a difference in his community.
Since you have made a statement representing INFORMED CATHOLICS, I will assume you may have missed a few bits of INFORMATION about Mr. Obama's voting record. You said that it was time to GIVE...Obama has voted 94 times in his brief career in the Senate to RAISE TAXES! You said that it was time to LOVE...Obama has displayed his hatred for human life in two ways: he is extreme in his desire to see babies murdered and he has voted to cut off funding our men and women who are fighting overseas to preserve our freedom! You said it is time to CHANGE this world...for an avowed Catholic you have a severely stunted understanding of the Scriptures! JESUS IS THE CHANGE this world needs!!! You've got your saviors all mixed up. Jesus (not Barack Hussein Obama) is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. My counsel is that, in stressful times like these, we all need to fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our FAITH. Fixations on political celebrities who make charismatic speeches and offer sweeping promises without the track-record to back them up should be strictly out of bounds for people who are looking to Jesus for their salvation. May God bless those who are seeking Him in the midst of our current national crises!
believer, Nope. I said some, and I would say its not the majority of posters. I respect your posts, we may not agree on many things, but your posts are well thought out. You are very respectful of others, more so than I am sometimes.
As far as the IEM is concerned, its based on real dollar markets, it is not just an Iowa market. Its sponsored by the University of Iowa. It seems to track very closely with the Rasmussen Market polls (not actual money).
IEM, http://www.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/
scits, am I one of those posters? But a serious question what in the world does that data say you put up about Iowa?
crc "Obama is clearly not the right choice because of his anti-Christian beliefs."
Obama is a decent and caring human being, thats a lot more than I say of many of the hate-mongering and lying posters on CP.
The hypocrites on CP dont seem to have a problem with bush's anti-christian actions during his 8 years of wars and incompetence.
I'm just glad to be an agnostic.
The poll numbers from the Iowa Electronic Markets are looking very good:
2008 Presidential Election Vote Share Market.
Quotes current as of 11:45:03 CST, Friday, October 10, 2008.
Symbol Bid Ask Last Low High Average
UDEM08_VS 0.555 0.558 0.558 0.552 0.558 0.555
UREP08_VS 0.450 0.454 0.450 0.450 0.455 0.454
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2008 Presidential Election Winner-Take-All Market.
Quotes current as of 11:45:03 CST, Friday, October 10, 2008.
Symbol Bid Ask Last Low High Average
DEM08_WTA 0.840 0.860 0.840 0.834 0.860 0.853
REP08_WTA 0.153 0.168 0.162 0.162 0.175 0.166
Well if you believe that Obama is the anti-Christ and the anti-Christ is part of God's chosen plan for the end-times, shouldn't you be voting FOR Sen. Obama?
You really must be joking. This clearly shows a lack of understand or reading the Bible.
Let me ask you a question. Do you want death and destruction to befall you and your family members?
Obama is clearly not the right choice because of his anti-Christian beliefs. This shows a clear problem which is the result of watered down Christianity that has infiltrated churches, homes and the media.
Well if you believe that Obama is the anti-Christ and the anti-Christ is part of God's chosen plan for the end-times, shouldn't you be voting FOR Sen. Obama?
At the risk of being labelled subversive, prejudiced or biased, I am greatly concerned about thie election. I'm a pastor and I've been voting for 40-plus years. In all that time, I have NEVER seen a more frightening candidate for president than in this election. I'm not a end-timer; I am not one of those extremists who believe the world will end tomorrow; I am also not affiliated with any political party. I am independent and only count my membership in the Christian party. However, I have also studied the Bible, including the descriptions of the anti-Christ.....and believe me it scares me to see the patterns of the anti-Christ and how they fit so smoothly with Sen. Obama. Now I know, for some of you reading this, that immediately labels me as some kind of Biblical kook. I am not. Neither am I a racist. But what I'm seeing is scary. I have seen the videos with young children, dressed in military style uniforms and outfits, singing the praises of the "messiah and savior" Barack Obama. I have seen how the world apparently wants to embrace him as the "one" who will bring peace and prosperity not only to the USA but to the rest of the world. One of the primary characteristics of the anti-Christ will be that the individual will come out of the church but not be of the church. That fits Sen. Obama to a "T." I would pray that people of faith...and I mean Christians.....would pray hard and allow their eyes and hearts to be opened to the reality of what is transpiring here. Sen. Obama is being funded, backed, promoted and manipulated by very, very powerful financial interests from outside the United States. He has already been "endorsed" by the major terrorist leaders and countries of the world. He has publicly excoriated and criticized the United States on numerous occassions. Where is his allegiance? Who will he be beholding to if..or when...he is elected? It woudl appear to me he will not be beholding to the American people. I wish...I hope...the "real" Barack Obama is revealed and unveiled before we as a country make a serious, serious, serious mistake.
We are looking at a major shift from belief in God to belief in men.
Yes, both candidates are not perfect. I would not expect either to be. However, God has shown in old testament where some people were considered more honorable, meek or just than another.
Gen 6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
Numbers 12:3
(Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)
1Chr 4:9 And Jabez was more honourable than his brethren: and his mother called his name Jabez, saying, Because I bare him with sorrow.
There are many other examples but they all did one thing. They believed God...God's word. The Bible speaks also about a young generation that did not know God. They did evil in God's sight. The anger of the Lord burned against them.
2 King 17
14Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in the LORD their God.
15And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.
16And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.
17And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
18Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.
19Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made.
20And the LORD rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight.
21For he rent Israel from the house of David;
Don't believer the polls, pray instead. "The effective, earnest prayer of a righteous man is powerfully effective." James 5:16 WEB
According to the Bible definition, A " Christian " is someone who believes on Christ as the Scriptures declare of Him.
That means you believe Christ is what he says he is, and what the Scripture declares him to be.
You also believe what Jesus believed. Meaning you believe as he did concerning life, A part of what Jesus believed was, " Do not kill " also interpreted, " Do no Murder."
Many claim to be Christian, but they do not measure up to the Bible definition.
Now while I know no one measures up completley,Thank God for Grace, There are some things that we dare not negate, " the murder of unborn babies through abortion is one of those things."
Can one be Christian, and be a supporter of abortion,? In the end God will decide that, But as for me, I think Not.
Not if we use the Bible as Our Standard. God bless folks.
"under both candidates most of us will be getting a tax cut."
Like the tax cut slick willie promised and then decided he had to renege on?
Look at the voting record, not the promises made during a campaign.
I grew up Catholic and my mom teaches it, but I'm just Christian now. But just because I find some things about Catholocism inconsistent with scripture, doesn't mean a Catholic can't still be a better Christian than me. Remember the wome who wiped Christ's feet with perfume, Christ said " though her sins are many, she is forgiven", because of the love she showed. 1 Peter 4:8 says "above all keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins."
DRJ,
As a fellow Catholic who overwhelmingly supports Obama, I must strongly dissent. How dare you criticize a denomination; I certainly do not criticize your beliefs! if intelligence and reason was a group of voters, one must question your inclusion. It is an embarrassment to 1. faith voters, and 2. educated citizens when people like you chose to blatantly discriminate against the good in candidates, and faith believers, and instead spread false messages of one's character. You see, us informed Catholics know that the time has come to GIVE, to LOVE, and to CHANGE this world. Yes, Obama may support abortion; which is a big issue with voters. But he also is AGAINST bloody war, FOR peace with leaders of all - ALL - people, he is FOR the poor, has WORKED for the poor, and MADE a difference in his community. For all I do at my local parish shelter and soup kitchen, I can only strive to be a citizen who rejects big business and instead works (in his case, less than 25k a year) for social justice. Those bold messages are what Catholics look for.
The followers of Islam have a religion, they do not have a relationship with Jesus Christ, there is a difference.
big leu sez: "can we please stop using the term "evangelical" to describe this group of voters??"
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Well, why carry the pretense any further? Just remove "Christian" and the cleansing will be complete.
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I'm continually amazed at the commonality of those calling themselves "Christian" and those calling themselves "jihadists". Both groups are comprised of induhviduals who are more imbued with "the spirit" than anybody else and that "anybody else" category is comprised of nothing but heathen infidels.
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Just fascinating how hypocrisy can reach throughout the world . . .
can we please stop using the term "evangelical" to describe this group of voters?? no one who has commented on this has agreed with the article. I'm in this category of "young white evangelicals" but i can tell you for sure that those of my friends who are truly in this category will not be voting for Obama!
It is interesting to read how Catholics are always included in every list of FAITH VOTERS! It should be noted that the FAITH of the Catholics is invested more in the practices of Catholicism than in their actual FAITH in Jesus Christ. One is not the same as the other. Anyone with FAITH in Jesus would never consider Obama as a candidate for any office where he would be able to exert major influence on the Christian community. That would be like voting for Pontius Pilate to be President of the Southern Baptist COnvention!!! Obama's religious interests have yet to be exposed by himself or any other ENTITY. However, people who rely on the Holy Spirit of God for guidance know that Obama is not interested in the kingdom of God (Maybe ALLAH, but NOT God!) Of course on the up-side of a potential Obama presidence is the huge growth that would be seen in truly Christian groups under his extreem persecution. A look at history shows that the church has grown its fastest when pressure has been exerted to ban the church! How then shall we pray? Obama's regime may take millions of souls to hell with him, but the church may grow exponentially under persecution from such a regime. The answer is, just pray for Obama's salvation and vote for McCain/Palin! Amen?
The key word here is " Religious ". Ther is a difference between Religious and Relationship.
One does not infer the other...
Actually, religion comes from the Latin word religare, which means relationship. One and the same.
On the topic of this article, I think it goes to show how less and less people of any Christian denomination are really keeping God first in their lives. For abortion? God isn't first. Gay "marriage?" Same problem.
It's tougher to walk that narrow path than the wide one, but Christians are called to lift up Christians, and that would mean McCain-Palin in this election. Peace.
Vote with great prayerfulness!
Your vote for a candidate with anti-biblical worldviews may come back to bite you in the end.
You may face the consequences in the form of increased anti-Christian persecution & greater cultural decay.
Not to mention, God's removal of His Hand of blessing upon this nation & the removal of the Church's restraining influence towards good.
In other words, this nation will get the judgment that she richly deserves. How that judgment may occur is beyond the ability of us to imagine at this time. But it shall surely come.
The title of this article should be.
"Major Shift in the Narrow Road" This
is the direct result of Emergent leaders
who accepted Christ at one time and feel no
need to lead others to Redemption.
The Narrow and Wide Gates...............
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.
A Tree and Its Fruit.............
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Matthew 7: 13-15
How can someone support homosexual unions, when the scriptures call the uniting of two of the same sex "abominable". We are called to love them and let them that the life style is a tremendous blindly lie from the Evil One. A lie so strong that if ties and binds almost forever. I weep for those lost in this lie. Remember, the Evil One is so much better at his job than we are at our duty and calling. Just a thought
6 in ten young white catholics accept and support the murder of unborn babies.
24-28 per-cent of young white evangelicals, Favor same sex marriage or unions.
The key word here is " Religious ". Ther is a difference between Religious and Relationship.
One does not infer the other.
One may be religious and not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.
That's exactly what I've been thinking believer. You know, under both candidates most of us will be getting a tax cut. That's money back. Unfortunately, people don't look at that fact they want the most money they can get which ends up leading to Obama's rob the rich give to the poor stragegy.
I can't believe that we are so concerned with money that we are willing to take from those that have earned it. I still whole heartedly believe in a single flat tax for all Americans. It's only fair!! And considering we're a country of equality why do we give more those who are unwilling to work? I'll leave you with two scriptures:
Matthew 6:24
No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
2 Thessalonians 3:10
Even while we were with you, we gave you this command: "Those unwilling to work will not get to eat."
So are you still so willing to take what you did not earn? I'm sorry, but affirmative action and welfare are doing nothing but making people lazier and lazier!
That's because as with the Clinton years too many people who profess to be Christians vote with their wallet as opposed to their heart or conscience. Right now because of the financial crisis were in a majority of people believe it's the Republican's fault and therefore they will now vote for Obama and this group includes many so-called faith voters.