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World|Sun, Oct. 19 2008 04:01 AM EDT

Malaysians Warned Not to Question Islam

By Associated Press Writer|Vijay Joshi

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia โ€“ An influential council of Malaysia's state rulers has warned people not to question the supremacy of Islam or the special privileges enjoyed by the country's ethnic Malay majority.

Racial and religious tensions have increased in the past year as minorities have become more vocal in their complaints about an affirmative action program that they say unfairly favors Malays. They also complain that their religious rights are being ignored.

In an unprecedented comment on current affairs, the sultans of nine states did not directly accuse the Chinese and Indian minorities of stoking anti-Malay feelings, but said recent statements and forums "held by certain quarters" had "caused provocation and uneasiness among the people."

Questioning the special position of Malays "can lead to disunity and racial strife that can undermine the peace and harmony," the state rulers said in a statement.

The warning underscores the social tensions in Malaysia, where Muslim Malays are about 60 percent of the nation's 27 million people. Chinese and Indians, who are mostly non-Muslims, comprise a third of the population and friction among the three ethnic groups is always below the surface.

The lengthy statement issued Thursday night follows a two-day meeting of the sultans, known as the Conference of Rulers. The hereditary sultans, who are Muslim Malays, occupy ceremonial offices but wield considerable moral authority among Malays.

"It (the warning) is quite unprecedented and I think it is coming in response to what the country is facing โ€” what the rulers perceive as the fracturing of racial harmony," said Tricia Yeoh of Center for Policy Research think-tank.

Last month, an ethnic Chinese opposition lawmaker was accused by a Malay newspaper of being anti-Islam. She was detained by police for a few days but no charges were filed. In August, lawyers were forced to abandon a conference on religious conversion after protesters stormed the forum.

The statement reiterates the supremacy of Islam, the special position of the Malays and the guarantee to protect minority rights โ€” all enshrined in Malaysia's constitution.

"Non-Malays should not harbour any apprehension or worry over their genuine rights because these rights are guaranteed," the statement said.

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  • Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:52 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The founding fathers did have a respect for religion and the real author of it, not Abraham, but God, they just didn't want the government to munipulate religion against the citizens to use them as political pawns for exploitation or as Mr. Johnson said, the founding fathers learned from the past religious wars of Europe.

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:17 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    agent,

    In the not too distant past of Europe, any open questioning of Christianity wasn't permitted, nor was it generally considered good form, it was usually something in which people were persecuted for, if not burned at the stake over.

    I live in Indonesia -across the strait from Malaysia, just 30 minutes plane ride away.
    Persecution of the body of Christ happens everyday here,much more terrible than what is happening in Malaysia. FYI Anwar Ibrahim is garnering support from islamic jihadist from several source of the 27 million people.

    What is that got to do with what is happening in Europe in the past.

    So you are saying that our church is bombed and we are harassed when going to church and that is justifiably related to the Crusade and Inquisition?

    You are wrong, absolutely wrong

  • Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    artm - I have had my post blocked for going over the character limit, and taking too long to write my post. What I do is make a copy of my stuff before I click "Submit". If it doesn't go thru, then I can paste what I copied, make changes if necessary for over the character limit, and resubmit. tamna ideas are good too.

  • Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    where I said, " It prevents the government from forming a state " it should read " It prevents the government from forming a state religion"

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:48 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    My source: http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1
    Amendment 1
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    There is nothing there keeping religion or religious people from being in the government. It prevents the government from forming a state because the founders had had too many bad experiences with state religions. Yet, they knew that if people did not have religion were in office, there would be problems. Our government is not set up to handle people who do not have religious morals. John Adams (Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Second President of the United States) wrote, "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." (http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=63)

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    johnzon ,

    I went to public schools and learned the constitution keeps the government from establishing a state religion. If you actually read the constitution, that's what it actually says. When I went to college, I again learned the same thing. When I read the constitution again, it still said the same thing.

    Please cite sources for your revision of history?

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    To Daniel Paul & wbmoore, Wishfull thinking on your parts, but no, the founding fathers learned from the christian religious wars of Europe- Keep religion out of government.

    Nice try though.

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Sometimes certain words will make it so a post will not get posted. The trick is figuring out which word is at fault.

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "framers of the US constitution wanted to keep religion out of government."

    someone does not know their history. The idea was to keep government out of religion, not religion out of government.

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "After your experience living in Malaysia you can see why framers of the US constitution wanted to keep religion out of government."

    Our framers didn't want to keep religion out of government. They didn't want the state to have it's own religion. We elect people based on our belief systems including religion and those belief systems translate into how they represent us.

    They didn't want religion running the government but rather representation of peoples beliefs to represent the majority.

    Nice try though.

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel Paul, After your experience living in Malaysia you can see why framers of the US constitution wanted to keep religion out of government.

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Non-Malays should not harbour any apprehension or worry over their genuine rights because these rights are guaranteed,"

    As for the subject, it is not correct that non-muslims have the same rights as muslims. Please note the words 'genuine rights'.

    Malaysian Constitution:

    "Article 3
    1. Islam is the religion of the Federation; but other religions may be practised in peace and harmony in any part of the Federation."

    Please note that other religions cannot be practised in peace and hamony if they open their mouths or question Islam. Having lived in Malaysia I can say first hand they talk a good game but if you talk to a muslim about Christianity you will be jailed or kicked out of the country.

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hey art. It depends on what you mean by 'block'.

    The system has a built in dictionary of words it will not allow to be posted. For example, I remember one time a person tried to post the name of a politician. However, the first name could also be used inappropriately and therefore it would not let it post.

    Another thing that happens is the system spaces out, you hit submit and the page refreshes instead of posting it.

    The system, however, does not 'block' individual posts. There isn't anyone that I know who is actively monitoring each post before it goes up. It will block individuals who have been kicked off but you are posting with the same ID so, that isn't the case.

    Also, Tamna is right. Over the word limit and the system freaks.

    If one of us other posters did it you post would have been replaced with "Flagged as inappropriate."

    It's a funny little system we post on....

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "When everything under the sun about Christanity is accepted but comments about islam is not."

    This is b/c we live in a secular and open society in which critiqing and engaging in dialog and disagreements on religion (majority or not) is protected. In the not too distant past of Europe, any open questioning of Christianity wasn't permitted, nor was it generally considered good form, it was usually something in which people were persicuted for, if not burned at the stake over. The only reason why they wont allow open critique is it removes the possible opposition to the prevailing viewpoint.

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    When everything under the sun about Christanity is accepted but comments about islam is not. Everything under the Sun is not accepted if so then there would be strife between Christians and pagans.

  • Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:06 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hi Art:

    I don't think it was intentional blocking. It seems that once you sign in and start making comments a clock of sorts starts ticking. If you take too long making and then posting your comments you are automatically signed out and lose your comments. I don't know if this happened to you, but it has to me on several occasions just today. So, for longer comments I use a word processor and copy and paste my comments in the comment box to save time. Also, I have been frustrated sometimes with the 3000 character limit. I have had to make several posts cut up because of the limit. Again, I don't know if this is what happened to you, but try again and think about using a word processor and copying and pasting. Watch the 3000 character limit!

    PAX
    Tamna

  • artm »
    Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:44 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I was blocked from making a post concerning thos topic, I woild like to know why it was blocked. When everything under the sun about Christanity is accepted but comments about islam is not.

    I woild like to know why I was block. art

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