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Opinion|Wed, Oct. 22 2008 09:33 AM EDT

Why So Many Christians are Confused about the Election

By Dr. Tony Beam|Christian Post Guest Columnist

One Web site that claims to be Christian declares Barack Obama to be the most pro-life candidate in the race. Another declares Obama is the only real Christian in the race. Yet another proclaims that life under an Obama presidency will mean the restoration of true justice in America. Yet another claims Obama would never fully support the Lesbian, Bisexual Gay, Transgender (LBGT) agenda. How can well-meaning, good intentioned people who claim to be speaking as representatives of Jesus Christ be so deceived? There is one indisputable fact in this election and that is Barack Obama is the most pro-choice, pro-homosexual rights candidate to ever receive a major political party’s endorsement for president. From his stand against the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which would have simply protected the life of a baby who managed to survive a botched abortion, to his 100 percent pro-choice Senate rating, Barack Obama has never met an abortion he didn’t like.

Last year in a speech before the radically pro-abortion group Planned Parenthood, Obama promised that his first act as President would be to overturn the nation-wide bans on partial-birth abortion and to require taxpayer funds be used to pay for abortions. Obama has been endorsed by NARAL Pro-choice, an organization which spends millions of dollars each year lobbying for increased abortion rights, both in the United States and overseas. NARAL Pro-choice provides the funds for lawsuits against pro-life legislation and organizations and sponsors public sex education that excludes any mention of abstinence. The very idea that Barack Obama is pro-life would be laughable if not for the multitudes of believers who are buying into this nonsense.

Christians who believe Barack Obama would defend marriage just because he stated during the debates with John McCain that he believes in traditional marriage should check out Obama’s interviews with pro-gay publications like Advocate.com. In October of 2007, Obama left no doubt where he stands concerning the advancement of LBGT special rights. He told an interviewer for Advocate.com “one thing that I do want to make sure is included in this article is that on issues from don’t ask, don’t tell to DOMA to the gay marriage amendment to the human rights ordinance in Illinois that is the equivalent of what we’ve been attempting to do at the federal level and that I was chief cosponsor of and then passed…there has not been a stronger and more consistent advocate on LGBT issues than I have been.”

How can conservative, traditional, Bible believing, born-again Christians seriously consider an Obama candidacy? I believe Harry R. Jackson Jr. and Tony Perkins discovered the answer in the Old Testament book of Ezekiel. On page 44 of their new book Personal Faith, Public Policy Jackson and Perkins say, “The Lord figuratively referred to the cultural problems of Ezekiel’s day as breaches in the wall.” Ezekiel 13:4-5 says, “Your prophets, Israel, are like jackals among ruins. You did not go up to the gaps or restore the wall around the house of Israel so that it might stand in battle on the day of the Lord.” In 586 B.C., the day of the Lord arrived for Judah when Jerusalem fell and the Babylonians took the Jews into captivity. The prophets of God had become like jackals wandering among the ruins of a once great culture while the spiritual gaps in the walls continued to widen. When the destruction of the Jewish culture came, the Watchmen on the wall of Ezekiel 33 had long since abandoned their post and the spiritual gaps opened up by the lack of a true prophetic voice allowed the enemy to completely ransack the city. The people of God became a people in bondage to their own refusal to see beyond the deception of the coming calamity. Continue »

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  • Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "It was a Republican president who supported the Corporate Socialism with the bailout of Wall Street."

    Actually, it wasn't a socialist bail out. It was a save our backside bailout. The implications of the fallout would have crushed us as a nation.

    Also, you are giving credit where credit isn't due. It is Congress who wrote the package that got you that check. I'm sure you getting a check was a tack on to Bushes proposal.

  • Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:12 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Republicans approved the tax rebate stimulus program. I paid no taxes but I got a check thanks to the Republican and Democratic Congress. It was a Republican president who supported the Corporate Socialism with the bailout of Wall Street. The government isn't supposed to go into the markket and buy bad securities. Republicans are for a progressive taxation system and that is part Socialistic. We have always had elements of Socialism in our society. The difference is that Republicans sneak the money to corporations, by faking wars and bailing out banks and using terms like "too big to fail." They are so dishonest and greedy.

  • Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:23 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Seedplanter

    <<Obama's socialist project has recently been added up to 4.3 trillion dollars.>>

    You are mixed up there Mr. Seedplanter, thats the estimated total final cost to the US taxpayer for the Iraq misadventure perpetrated on the American people by Bush & Cheney.

  • Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Seedplanter

    <<Yes Bush, McCain and OBAMA also voted the recent bailout. This growing socialistic trend is very problematic.>>

    OR

    The government could do nothing- Hoover tried that and we know how that turned out.

  • Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Obama's socialist project has recently been added up to 4.3 trillion dollars. Do you call that fiscal responsibility? I cannot believe that Biden actually claimed that he and Obama were the Reaganite conservative ticket during his debate with Palin. What a moose!

    Yes Bush, McCain and OBAMA also voted the recent bailout. This growing socialistic trend is very problematic.

  • Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:29 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    John,
    Yes, and Obama would seal the deal.

  • Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:39 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Seedplanter

    <<democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship>>

    Bush has contributed to the loose fiscal policy part, and he and Cheney have put the US on the road towards dictatorship.

  • Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    An American Prophecy?

    When the 13 colonies were still part of England, Professor Alexander Tyler, a Scottish historian, wrote about the fall of the Athenian republic over 2000 years earlier. He said:

    The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years.

    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.

    These nations have progressed through the following sequence; from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to BONDAGE."

    I first read this in Black YellowDogs by Ben Kinchlow. I found this copy at:

    http://people.boston.com/forums/news/politics/general/?p=discussiondetails&activityid=4908442443770253517

  • Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:58 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "He refuses to show proper respect for the flag because he is afraid of offending non-Americans."

    This is America. People who are afraid to offend non-Americans simply by defending our identity as a country are undermining the foundations of our own identity.

  • Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:57 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I stand corrected. Apparently, what I heard from him was that Steve would have been a better choice. It was from that foundation meeting where both candidates got to show they had a sense of humor. Humor...from them...must have just messed with my mind to much!

  • Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:11 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, <I see a man who holds very little loyalty to America.>

    How so, how is he not loyal?

    < I see a man who can lead us into a one world government>

    Tell us why, what information do you have to indicate this?

    <I do see a man who is pro-abortion to the exteme>

    He is not pro-abortion, he is pro-choice, let individuals decide for themselves. That is what democracy is all about.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:56 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    I VOTED my conscience. We cannot tell the outcome of this election, but we have to make our peace with the LORD regarding the painful choice of choosing the less riskier candidates. GOD has a purpose and a plan for us.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:43 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Why is that we are confused about this election? If any group of people in this nation should have more confidence on what God is doing, it should be His people! We are spending too much time on what we think a President should look like to us! But are we not the people who scream out the most that we are lead by the Holy Spirit whom teaches us all things and guides us into all truths?
    We are confused because we are have not ask God whom He has chosen to lead this country! We are told to be follower of Jesus Christ, how can we follow if we do not ask Him which way we should go? Remember that Satan is the master of confusion according to the word of God, and he is only after us, the followers of Jesus, to divide and separate the body of Jesus. All christians must get before God and ask Him who He has chosen. If we know that God is doing something in this earth, and we are apart of His kingdom, then we must go to Him and seek whom He has placed His hand upon! When all Christians know whom God has chosen, no matter what we think, we can not out think God because He is God alone! Seek who He has chosen for this season, if you are who you proclaim you are, then find out from God who will become the next President. My bible tells me that God sets heads over nations, and master over servants, and hubands over families! It is
    God that makes the final decision! We better find out from Him who He wants, not what we want!

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I see nothing different about his campaign as opposed to others. I do not see a "gifted" man who can get us out of this "mess". I do see a man who is pro-abortion to the exteme. A man who is sympathetic towards muslims (both orthodox and extremists). I see a man who holds very little loyalty to America. I see a man who can lead us into a one world government, and take over the NAU and the Amero project with gusto. That there is probably a good indication that he will win.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, As I stated Obama will probably be the next president. He is gifted with many talents and he will do as good a job as any person is capable, to try to clean up the wreckage of the last 8 years. What the US needs now is a president that can communicate and inspire and get qualified people to run the government. This will be very refreshing considering the present administration has hired based on loyalty and ideology, we see where that has gotten the US. Based on his very well run campaign against Clinton and McCain, he will put together a good team to help the US clean up the messes we have now.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:52 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Why the confusion? Simple...many Christians don't have a biblical worldview & don't know how to vote their values.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:45 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I don't think I want to show respect for someone (BHO) who will freely allow muslim extremists their freedom here in America. I am committed to my country before I'm committed to my President. Actually, I'm commited to God above all things, and just about everything that Obama stands for is against God.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, <I question Obama's motives when he refuses to show proper respect for our flag (and our country) >

    I have been questioning the motives of Bush & Cheney in the way they have disrespected our citizens in uniform and our country by getting the US involved ill concieved wars are helping to bankrupt our country. Interesting thing about Bush & Cheney, they both supported the Vietnam war, but both found ways to avoid it.

    The mishandeling of both the Afghan and Iraq wars is a major reasnon why Obama will very likely be our next president. I hope that when he does, you will show him some respect.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    BHO said the Sermon on the Mount condones homosexuality and, further, called Chapter 1 of Romans an "obscure passage". This guy not only doesn't have a clue about Biblical Christianity, he's doing everything he can to subvert it.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    His full initials are BHO...Barack Hussein Obama.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    BS? His initials aren't BS. It's BO (which isn't so hot either if you think about it...hahahaha)

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:46 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "but in eight years was there any advancements to reverse Roe vs. Wade."

    Yes. He appointed judges to the bench that were pro-life or more pro-life. This is all a President can do. He cannot make law nor judge it. Roe v. Wade starts with the courts. This change he has done.

    I'm voting against Barrack for several reasons. One, I'm an American and not a socialist. Two, only an non-intelegent person would look at what he wants to do on his website with education and everything else and actually beleives we have enough money (even if you take every penny from those who make more than $250,000) to pay for it. He will HAVE TO raise taxes on the rest of us. His promise of not taxing below $250k is the dem version of "read my lips", and third...I don't know I want someone for President whose first initials are BS.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    If I was American, and taking seriously my responsibility to vote according to my Christian principles and conscience I would vote for The Constitution Party and for Chuck Baldwin.

    There is no guarantee that he would be a better president that Bush or McCain or Hussein Obama but the party platform of the Constitution Party rings true with my conscience.

    Not to mention it would be great to see those two security agents arrested for protecting Americans released from prison,

    Come on Americans you can still be a truly great nation, I think.

    I am praying for your nation. GOD bless America, and be the City on the hill your founding fathers intended.

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:23 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I question Obama's motives when he refuses to show proper respect for our flag (and our country) because he's afraid of "offending non-Americans", and his choice of reading materials include the book "The Post America World".

  • Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:20 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The problem that many people have, is that they think the President is a monarch...that he makes and passes all decisions. That is wrong. We have to deal with the senate too. And though a President may promise something, it doesn't mean it's going to happen if the senate doesn't want it to. So before you go spouting off about how Bush screwed up our country remember that the Senate had to approve everything. So it wasn't just his decision. And the same goes for Obama. He may promise us the moon, but if the senate only gives us a good look at it on a clear night...that's all we're getting.

  • Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    DP "The problem I have with voting for Obama is exactly which Obama am I voting for. I see so many that look just like him in interviews. They all seem to have different views on things...."

    So does that mean your NOT voting for mccain, he's a real flip flopper and erratic.

  • Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:38 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Is Barack a Bible-believing Christian?

    Matthew 7:15-20: "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them."

    In my opinion (figuratively speaking), Barack's fruit is rotten and of poor quality. But don't take my word for it.

  • Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    taylor, while it is true you can't legislate morals you can make the killing of the unborn illegal and you can keep our government from making same-sex marriage legal and therefore condoning and encouraging the sexual practices of homosexuality which are a clear violation of the Word of God.

  • Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:02 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    I think voting for or against a candidate solely on one moral issue is not wise. If you voted for George Bush he was pro-life, but in eight years was there any advancements to reverse Roe vs. Wade. Yet in the mean time millions of Americans are being sinned against due to the greed. I not think by voting for or against Obama will change the #of people who get abortions yearly. Nor will it prevent states from making homosexual marriage legal. Both are sins but I do not expect worldly politicians to effect moral change. You can not legistlate righteousness.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:47 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "I believe Christ to be the Son of God. "

    So does the Devil. What's your point?

    This election has world wide implications more so than any other election in recent history. It will determine the official values of our country for years to come. It could shape the courts and our laws in very positive or negative ways.

    The problem I have with voting for Obama is exactly which Obama am I voting for. I see so many that look just like him in interviews. They all seem to have different views on things....

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    disciple08
    You have said....
    "Perhaps it absurd to you because you fail to see your own limitlessness as a human being. But, go ahead, think all day that you know everything about God. I believe in a God that does not exist in a box."

    My apologies if I misunderstood what you were trying to say. I was trying to address your reference to "direct access to God".

    I think Believer's responces best reflect my own. It is not within us as human beings to be able to comprehend and understand everything about God and His will. This is by design.

    It is only with a relationship with God through Jesus Christ, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, that such answers are revealed as God choses to reveal them. This is what I would call "direct access to God".

    But we must learn to listen. We must learn to develop the ears to hear. This begins with the Word of God.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    d8, if Bush did anything right he came to see that when it comes to fighting poverty and helping hurting people nobody does it better than faith-based agencies. It won't matter who gets elected as long as those agencies stay focused on God and others by staying wholeheartedly committed to God's Great Commandment in order to join Him in fulfilling His Great Commission. But I do agree that to only vote for a candidate who is pro-life and opposed to same-sex marriage is risky, but to ignore those issues may be just as risky.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    d8, with regard to Saul you violate the very thing you accused some of us of. How do you know that Saul accomplished all that God had desired to be accomplished. For instance as we read God's Word it appears pretty clear that God never desired for the people to be in the Wilderness for 40 years, but because of there unbelief and rebellion against His will they did. Yet even in their unbelief and rebellion God used them and prepared them to go in and possess the Promised Land. Yes, there is no doubt God's Will will be accomplished but not always in the exact way God would have desired it to be. Because much of God's Will in the Old Testament was accomplished not because of the sins of some but inspite of the sins of some in the Old Testament and Saul is indeed a good example.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    d8, no one has said that they know God's complete will, but His Word does tell us what He believes and desires with regards to certain issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:25 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    This is why I am comfortable with someone being in the office who does not match up to my values perfectly. In fact, I admire both candidates very much. But to assume that just because someone gets in office that does not "honor" God the way I would like them to would be dumb on my part. Accordingly, I think God can use anyone to accomplish His will, even if that person might be opposed to it. Think of, for instance, Saul. He obviously was not a king who honored God and was "after God's heart" like David was. But God still accomplished His purposes despite Saul's obvious recalcitrance.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:25 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Believer,
    I am not talking about a relationship with God so much as the belief that because I have a relationship with God I know God's will completely. Paul says in Corinthians that "For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully..." Therefore, being saved does not mean our beliefs become inerrant.

    To assume that God is only concerned with a few issues is false. God sees a bigger picture than us. In that respect, it would be irresponsible of me to only assume that abortion is the only issue worth voting for. I certainly want abortions to stop, but I also want to see the widening gap between the rich and the poor stop as well. I hate seeing children suffer in horrible conditions, while other people are willing to spend thousands of dollars on haircuts.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:54 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    d8, also right after Christ declared it is finished from the cross, the curtain which kept people out of the Holy of Holies in the Temple was rent it two from top to bottom, which was God telling us we could now once again have direct access to Him through the work and blood of Christ shed for our sins and the forgiveness of our sins on the Cross at Calvary.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:47 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    d8, I'd encourage you to read the Book of Hebrews about this issue, but Hebrews 10:19-22, "Therefore brothers, since we have boldness to enter the santuary through the blood of Jesus, by the new and living way that He has inaugurated for us, through the curtain, that is His flesh and since we have a great High Priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed in pure water."

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:38 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    d8, unfortunately the humanistic thought police are on the prowl so I don't know if you saw my post back to you. But there is a huge difference between believing Jesus is the Son of God and personally knowing Him as your Savior and Lord. As a result of the latter a person has direct access to God through the shed blood of Jesus Christ any time day or night. Also, that person is indwelt by the Holy Spirit the moment they become a believer and one of His major responsibilities in the life of every believer is to illumine the Word of God in their heart and mind. So as much as I appreciated you calling me dangerous my claim to direct access to God and His Word is available to all who put their total faith/trust in the person and finished work of Christ on the Cross alone.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:16 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    wrhalver,

    Perhaps it absurd to you because you fail to see your own limitlessness as a human being. But, go ahead, think all day that you know everything about God. I believe in a God that does not exist in a box.

    I believe Christ to be the Son of God. But this does not make me an official interpreter of God's will.

    But, hey, coming from a person that thinks that someone who disagrees with them needs forgiveness. I guess that is to be assumed. Shame on me for thinking otherwise. I thought Christians were more loving than that, more honest about their limitations as humans. Above all, I thought that when we discussed political leadership we could actually carry out a civilized discussion. But, no, what we got is people attacking somebody's personal character who they have never met in their lives. Strange how people can judge other human beings, when they dont even know them. So, thank you. You have illuminated nothing about the character of God, but certainly much about your character.

    Despite this I will ask you and believer this: Do you really think you can comprehend the Truth of the universe? If so, gladly prove it for me, without resorting to saying that I am not a true Christian or what not. I want an actual response that proves you have direct access to God.

  • Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:25 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Christians are confused about the election because they are hearing conflicting messages from two men, both of whom are Christians.

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:43 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Believer,

    Nothing more dangerous than a person who claims direct access to God and His Word. What if Luther was inspired by God to say that?

    Would you be comfortable with a Muslim (which were Turks in Luther's day) in leadership? Muslims, by virtue of their religious beliefs, have different values than Christians. Values are, after all, subjective impressions that reflect cultural norms for certain kinds of people but not all people. (To clarify, I would accept a Muslim for president as long as they were able to do the job well)

    I agree with Luther, and yes I believe God to be speaking truth through him. What he has to say is much more biblical than the narrow-minded view that only someone who believes the same as me on abortion and homosexual marriage can be President. BTW, I am Pro-Life and will not be voting for John McCain.

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    lily, totally agree that we certainly need to make this a very serious matter of prayer and study before we cast our votes.

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:56 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Since we are told that we shall know them by their fruits (actions/deeds/behavor), it is not a matter of forgiveness, it is a matter of discerning the qualities of the lives of the candidates. We are not seeking to elect a pastor/preacher - we're speaking of politicians: men and women, who have in the past professed to be Christians but have proven differently once in office. Therefore, I am saying that there is a need for much discernemtn, study of the backgrounds of each canddiate, and much prayer before voting.

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:54 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    d8, you can take your cue from Luther, but I prefer to take mine form God and His Word. Plus if the Turk has godly morals and values then he indeed might be the person I'd vote for. Godly morals and values are not just limited to Christians. Once again though, God's Word says that God honors the nation whose leaders honor Him.

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Chuck Colson has a MUCH better article on this issue. Here it is: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/october/22.150.html

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:45 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Martin Luther: "I would rather have a competent Turk (Muslim) as my leader, than an incompetent Christian."

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    steveh20, good leaders don't operate in a vacuum, but surround themselves with people who are both knowledgeable and skilled in areas where they are not. But character and especially a character of godly morals and values cannot be faked they must be a real and genuine part of the individual, that person cannot rely on others for this but it must be a part of them personally. Plus as much as I would personally like to see them in every person who holds a public office it is essential that they are a part of those who hold the office of President and Vice President.

  • Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer, what though if the politican who honours God has policies that are rubbish and will ruin the country, you would not choose a builder to work on your house just because they honoured God, would you? You'd want to know firstly they where good at there job. Tony Blair honoured God and he left the UK in a rubbish state.

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