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Society|Wed, Nov. 05 2008 12:08 AM EST

Obama Becomes First Black President in Landslide

By Associated Press Writer|David Espo

WASHINGTON – Barack Obama swept to victory as the nation's first black president Tuesday night in an electoral college landslide that overcame racial barriers as old as America itself.

The son of a black father from Kenya and a white mother from Kansas, the Democratic senator from Illinois sealed his historic triumph by defeating Republican Sen. John McCain in a string of wins in hard-fought battleground states — Ohio, Florida, Virginia and Iowa.

A huge crowd in Grant Park in Obama's home town of Chicago erupted in jubilation at the news of his victory. Some wept.

McCain called his former rival to concede defeat — and the end of his own 10-year quest for the White House. "The American people have spoken, and spoken clearly," McCain told disappointed supporters in Arizona.

The popular vote was close, but not the count in the Electoral College, where it mattered most.

There, Obama's audacious decision to contest McCain in states that hadn't gone Democratic in years paid rich dividends.

Shortly after 11 p.m. in the East, The Associated Press count showed Obama with 338 electoral votes, well over the 270 needed for victory. McCain had 127 after winning states that comprised the normal Republican base.

The nationwide popular vote was remarkably close. Totals from 58 percent of the nation's precincts showed Obama with 51 percent and McCain with 47.9.

A survey of voters leaving polling places on Tuesday showed the economy was by far the top Election Day issue. Six in 10 voters said so, and none of the other top issues — energy, Iraq, terrorism and health care — was picked by more than one in 10.

Obama and his running mate, Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, will take their oaths of office as president and vice president on Jan. 20, 2009.

As the 44th president, Obama will move into the Oval Office as leader of a country that is almost certainly in recession, and fighting two long wars, one in Iraq, the other in Afghanistan.

Obama has said his first order of presidential business will be to tackle the economy. He has also pledged to withdraw most U.S. combat troops from Iraq within 16 months.

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  • Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    bossmanham, As I stated, I was refering to the electoral vote count which was over
    65 % for obama, thats constitutes a landslide.

  • Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I accept your appologies agentorange.

  • Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:35 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    star2, You're right and I sorry about my childish antics which are unwarranted and wrongly belittled you. I sincerely apologize and forgive you for your trespasses and I can only hope you forgive me as all. Peace.

  • Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:02 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    sscitsongas

    actually it was 53% - 46%. And McCain won 22 states.
    not a landslide

  • Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ... human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning ... human beings who never should have been born.'
    -- Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood founder, referring to immigrants and poor people

    Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. (Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech). "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." (Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon)

    really funny the "first afr-amn president" wants to pass this act..hahaha now this should tell you his stance. We need to pray folks seriously and MAKE SURE the Justice HOUSE of Prayer stays open. Bush has almost two months left to appoint supreme court justices. Let us pray he makes that a priority. The only innocent blood Obama should be covered in is the saving blood of JESUS not the unborn.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:40 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "I am not a theist. I am a born-again Christian."

    And 'born again Christians' don't have to be polite and 'turn the other cheek', or am I missing something here? Theist = believer in a Deity or deities, so that would be you.

    I am not a theist agaentorange. I believe in and know the true and living God. Hopefully, one day, you will too.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:37 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    agentorange, the surplus was used up and the debt balloned into 10 trillion dollars because America was fighting two wars. It would have happended to anyone in office having to fight two wars. Now part of the large expense came from Bush not taking money from Iraq though Iraq could have afforded to contribute after a period of time. Bush was always accused of going to war with that madman Saddam for the oil. Bush purposely didn't take money from Iraq to prove to his accusers that that was not so. Wise decision? I don't know.

    If Bush's tax plans were so bad as you democrats kept saying for 8 yrs then why did the Dow go to nearly 14,000 and unemployment was very low? Economic health is a cyclic thing. You can't stop the cycle; the economy will go from a recession, to prosperity and then decline to a recession again. When Clinton took over the economy the US was coming out of a recession. It grew and then began to decline and the nation was in a recession when Bush the younger took over. It grew under him and then declined. So now when whatever democrat takes office he will inherit a bad economy. Baring unforseen curcumstances, like another terrorist attack, the economy will improve and then over time will decline again.

    The terrorists are not threw with America. If you understand their religion, their goals and objectives, and listen to their rants you would know that. They will make every effort to attack again and if possible again and again until they get what they want, ie, the Islamic flag flying over the White House, Shuria law the law of the land and every US citizen a Muslim. They have made public that that is what they want, that is how I know.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    star "God would not listen to me..."

    Oh really, I thought you had a direct line.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:14 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    sscitsongas, you are delusional.

    God would not listen to me even if I do what you claim I would do.

    Get your head out of the sand.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "You will be bad mouthing him within a year or two and some of you will wish you had never voted for him."

    Star, you might be older than most here, but you could fool anyone with that line. Politicians already realize they can't please 100% of the populace always, there are always those who are loyal to or against particular parties or ideologies no matter who's in office and what is passed or vetoed, obviously some of those who voted for him will doubt later and paradoxically some who didn't will doubt why they didn't vote for him.

    "He will go down in history as a failure."

    We shall see, but considering all the major mishaps both internationally and domestically he's having to clean up after the past 8 years it wont be an easy task. Bush set the bar pretty low with the lowest approval rating ever of 27%, so I find it hard he'll do worse. Didn't you notice the response globally? Bush came in with the largest budgeted surplus ever in US history and immediately turned it into a deficit ballooning the debt from a 4 trillion national debt to over 10 trillion today. So much for 'conservative fiscal disiplines', and heck him signing in a natiionlization of major banks IS SOCIALIZATION. All he had to do was veto it right, but he's lame duck and has been since sitting the the Fl classroom for 7 minutes.

    Much of it that debt we now owe to other countries, like China, (gee thanks, MORE $$ our kids have to pay back!) thus making us more dependent on them and less secure economically. You can partially attribute the deep despise against Bush, the republicans, to why the Dems took back seats in both houses in 06, and the presidency now.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:07 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

    agentorange

    I am not a theist. I am a born-again Christian.

    Jesus called the religious leaders of His day a 'brood of vipers'. Not real nice of Him now is it?

    I have shown you much restraint in my dialogs with you agentorange. You have shown me next to none.

    Those documents have been shown to be fradulant, they were doctored to reflect what the Obama camp wanted the public to see. Let the Obama camp provide a certified birth certificate from Hawaii to the US Supreme Court and the records from the Hawaii hospital that he was born in. If he is ligit then he shouldn't mind doing that. Only guilty people want to conceal the truth. Sounds like Obama is guilty to me since he refused to prove whether he is a natural born US citizen. Obama is and his wife are power hungry and Barack will deceive anyone to get what he wants.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    star, i have seen your type before, you are going to hope and pray for bad things to happen to the US and obama for teh next 4 years because you hate obama so much. hate destroys people, you are self-destructive. You need to repent from your hate.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 4

    "Did my 'name calling' hit a nerve with you?"

    You can't be this thick.My claim is that you, being a theist, are supposedly supposed to have some imagined higher morality, some higher basis for code of conduct and civility when it comes to dialog, after all this is what we're told continually from you. But it appears it's all rhetoric and hot air, just another letter of the law you hold others to but not yourself.

    "Did it speak to your heart about how ignorant you really are about the issue in discussion?"

    No, you're in that much denial still? You haven't read those links I gave with the pictures of his birth certificate, eh?

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:37 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    <<<"You are so profoundly ignorant agentorange."

    There is that compassionate and subtle humility again, grow up lady this isn't grade school where calling names works.>>>

    What is the matter agentorange? Did my 'name calling' hit a nerve with you? Did it speak to your heart about how ignorant you really are about the issue in discussion?

    You call me names all the time. Me calling you 'profoundly ignorant' is mild compared to what you have called me for nearly a year. Do you want me to produce the evidence?

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:36 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    sscitsongas

    Time will tell whether I am right or wrong.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    star,

    yada, yada...

    The next 4 years are goin to be hard for you. Too bad you are so bitter and angry.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    star, your posts concerning obama remind me of rabid dog foaming at the mouth, your views are so distorted that I would guess few take the time to read them. I do find them entertaining to read however.

    this comment for example:

    "I wouldn't be surprised if Obama bows his knee to the terrorists and gives this nation over to them..."

    I mean that is so absurd its funny, keep them coming, I love a good laugh.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    sscitsongas

    I don't need therapy. All I did is make known a fact that the news media swept under the rug that Obama just might not meet the requirement for running for President. It is you all that can't let it go. The constitution never has meant anything to you liberal democrats, so you rather give him a free pass instead of having him prove his citizenship. I would think it would matter to you democrats but then again since when has the constitution ever meant anything to you anyway? If you give him a free pass on this issue what else will you give him a free pass on? Perhaps the soverenty of the nation like letting him give it to a foreign nation? The offical religion of the nation; from none to an Islam nation like the terrorists want it to be? Your rights to free speech when what you believe does not fall in line with the offical beliefs of the government? Your right to worship God according to the dictates of your heart or not worship any kind of diety?

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mike, I am not bitter that Obama won. I shake my head, though, when I think about the Americamn people giving Obama a free pass on all his associations with terrorists, his lack of integrity, his Marxist ideas on wealth redistribution, his lack of good decision making on how to deal with international problems, his lack of understanding the enemy, his desire to kill the unborn and his heartless belief that you should just let an aborted child that was born alive to be ignored and die , his refusal to take a stand on issues being voted on in the Senate, his refusal to show proper documentation proving his citizenship, his lack of patriotism, and etc..

    If John McCain was guilty of these things he would have been lynched by the media and the American public.

    Obama is no good. Those of you who voted for him will find that out. You will be bad mouthing him within a year or two and some of you will wish you had never voted for him. He will go down in history as a failure.

    If you get a sour opinion of him, assuming he takes office and is not disqualified, be sure you don't speak it publically for his administration just might have you arrested.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Obama bows his knee to the terrorists and gives this nation over to them for the sake of peace before his 4 yr term is up.

    Go ahead and flag my post. Your militancy on opinions that rub you wrong or you find offensive is only a sample of things to come in this nation.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    bossman

    "And this was certainly not a landslide."

    Ah, actually, yes it was a landslide. Anything over 60 % of electoral votes is considered a landslide. Obama received over 65 % of the electoral votes.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    yeah star I have gotten on with my life, I am rejoicing over the victory of obama and the american people for choosing by a large margin our next president. looks like you are having a bit of trouble dealing with it. Perhaps therapy might be good for you.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mike

    he [Obama] is incompetent & a phony christian. i, star2, guess you [Mikw] are blinded by ignorance & denial. i, star2, find you, mike, arrogant & self righteous. you, mike, will one day be bitter that obama won.


    I am not bitter about Obama winning.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    sscitsongas

    I have gotten on with my life, have you?

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    star, obama has been running for prez for two years. Do you really think that if there were any validity to obama not really have been born in the USA (Hawaii), that that would not have already come out. Seriously dude, give it up and get on with your life.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    And this was certianly not a landslide.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:54 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    mike, with all respect, you calling star2 bitter is certainly the pot calling the kettle black!

  • mike »
    Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:32 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    to star2 - 'socialistic policies will hurt america?' bush's greedy arrogant policies has already damaged & bankrupted america. he is incompetent & a phony christian. i guess you are blinded by ignorance & denial. i find you arrogant & self righteous. you are bitter that obama won.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "You are so profoundly ignorant agentorange."

    There is that compassionate and subtle humility again, grow up lady this isn't grade school where calling names works.

    "why won't he just simple show documentation stating what Hawii hospital he was born in, what doctor delivered him, and a certified copy of his hawii birth certificate?"

    I posted the links on it like 3 times now, what more do you want? Your position is akin in refusing to look up to acknowledge the sky is blue is most illogical.

    "I would think a man in his position and for the office he ran for would want to clear up the matter when he was challenged in a court of law unless,"

    Ok, the pictures of his birth certificate were released months ago in June, so really there is no reason you shouldn't know, unless you and WND haven't gotten the memo or you or they selectively prefer to ignore it. Hey, just like the '9-11 Truther' conspiracy nutbars. To consider it to be a challenge in court would imply it was an active ongoing court case, which it is not, it was dropped by the judge after all.

    "since he didn't that tell me that he is not really a bona fide natural born citizen of the USA. "

    Star, he was kinda in the midst of running a presidential campaign if you recall, and his lawyers can certainly adjudicate the manner, he doesn't have to self represent in such a case. You do know that lawyers can represent clients in court, right? This IS his right, and he chose to do so, just like most people seek council advice. How's that kool aid tasting star?

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:53 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Again, since when has WND been a reputable and credible source for news? I could understand FOX trying to run this, but even they know there is now substance behind this nonsense.

    "http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66991"

    "He continued, "(Interestingly, in the lower right hand corner is the backwards reflection of a stamp, "June 6 or G, 2007". Did someone request or process this record about a year ago?) "

    Um, what...., where? Tons of photos of the real thing here.

    http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

    http://www.fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

    Notice star, that the sites I refer to above have ACTUALLY been sourced via the US National Government, unlike, say WND.

    Like I said, Pffffftttt, deflating.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Besides agentorange, why won't he just simple show documentation stating what Hawii hospital he was born in, what doctor delivered him, and a certified copy of his hawii birth certificate? I would think a man in his position and for the office he ran for would want to clear up the matter when he was challenged in a court of law unless, of course, he is hiding something, like "I am not really a bona fide natural born cirtizen of the USA because I was actually born in Kenya, and my mother did not meet the criteria for passing US citizenship on to me." when Obama was challenged all he did was send his lawyers to argue before the judge that the case should be dismissed. all he had to do was show the evidence. since he didn't that tell me that he is not really a bona fide natural born citizen of the USA.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    <<No star, it's b/c the case Berg is bringing up is baseless and vacuous, the only words you're taking on the matter is WND itself, again hardly objective.>>

    You are so profoundly ignorant agentorange.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    agentorange

    <<<Star, as I already noted, others have already gone on to researching this and determine if its bona fide, apparently WND and you didn't get the memo >>>

    Oh, really?!

    ELECTION 2008
    Blogger reveals Obama birth certificate
    'All information is what we have been told before'

    http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66991

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "The many in this country and the world protrays him as such."

    Compared with Cowboy Jr. and his unilateral mishaps both domestically and internationally, can you blame them? Just about anyone would be preferable to ol Bush Jr, who by the way, beat out Nixon with having the lowest approval ratings (27%) in US history.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "Obama has to prove that he is a bona fide natural born citizen of the US to the Supreme Court. He can't run from it anymore"

    More tire dribble. Star, as I already noted, others have already gone on to researching this and determine if its bona fide, apparently WND and you didn't get the memo - it is.

    Here, do these suffice?

    http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Mike22685

    <<<Obama isn't a "savior">>>

    The many in this country and the world protrays him as such.

    <<<Our kids see the color of their skin, look around at the ghetto they live in, and all too often see only gangs and unemployment from their families. What an awesome role model for them! >>>

    Dr. Condi Rice and Gen Colin Powell were not role models for their race?

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    agentorange - You are so ignorant of the facts agentorange.

    I guess Souter is really stupid and blind since he did not throw out the lawsuit when Berg appealed the decision to the US Supreme Court. Obama has to prove that he is a bona fide natural born citizen of the US to the Supreme Court. He can't run from it anymore.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "The only reason the judge dropped the lawsuit was because he said that an ordinary citizen does not have standing before the court to 'police' the constitutional requirements for President."

    No star, it's b/c the case Berg is bringing up is baseless and vacuous, the only words you're taking on the matter is WND itself, again hardly objective.

    Since when did WND become a credible or reputable news source again? Oh that's' right, they're not.

    So much for the birth certificate not being presented huh star? Pffffffffffftttttt.... (deflating) Again, this is why WMD isn't reputable.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Star, give to Caesar what is Caesar's, give to God what is God's Obama isn't a "savior" but he is a brilliant man with ideas on how to fix this country. I hope you will stop using words like socialist which you clearly learned from anti-Obama rhetoric.

    Praying: It is what he represents. It is historic that a man with black skin is president. Regardless of if he grew up in "African American" culture, he faces racism on a daily basis simply because of his skin color, and he overcame that, built himself up through education, and is going to be our president. Our kids see the color of their skin, look around at the ghetto they live in, and all too often see only gangs and unemployment from their families. What an awesome role model for them! I don't think there is anything to be condemned about that.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:42 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    agentorange

    <<<Star, there is a reason the judge dropped the case, get a clue.>>>

    The only reason the judge dropped the lawsuit was because he said that an ordinary citizen does not have standing before the court to 'police' the constitutional requirements for President.

    ELECTION 2008
    Judge dismisses Obama birth certificate lawsuit
    Rules voters don't have standing to 'police' constitutional requirements for president

    http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79086

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:33 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Mike22685 - Your students have no hope for a better tomorrow either. If Obama is sworn in his immoral and socialistics policies will hurt America. This nation will spiral down into ruin. Give it some time and you deocrats will be bad mouthing Obama like you and many republicans bad mouthed Bush. Government is not the answer to your problems, God is. Look to Jesus to save you not man.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:48 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    @Mike
    I really wish people would stop saying his is afr-amn which encompasses more than color , but a way of thinking being and expression. This man was raised in Muslim nations and in that religion. I do not consider him black at all , that is like saying just because Justin Timberlake married Tyra Banks and sings R&B and is accepted that he is black. Get a clue sweety. His "black" culture and ours are totally different. Stop drinking the liquor of race and sober up black folks. This man is NOT our saviour , nor will he "represent" like you think. Get off the Bamistad before it's too late.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:37 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    agent, the only thing we can do is let God know the desires of our heart, but even more importantly as His own Son prayed ask that His will be done in spite of our desires. God needless to say did allow obama to be elected, but we cannot assume that was or is His will since God will not force His will on anyone but at the same time He will not always remove the consequences of us not doing His will. Plus, ultimately God's ultimate plans and purposes will be realized and God will and does often times choose to work through decisions and choices that are not always His to even include sinful choices we make.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:33 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Star, maybe not your hope, but this morning at my school (which is comprised of all black students) we said the pledge as we do every morning. The only difference was, at the end of the pledge, the entire building errupted into cheers and applause. For the first time in history a black man is the President, and there is hope and change abounding.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:29 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    merkin, God did not elect obama, people to include Christians voting with their wallet elected obama.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Christian Post why did you take my comment off.
    This person can reply to my comment which was nof offensive, it was an opinion are you alreay starting to be the Obama Police? Can anyone flag a comment? Can a person that comments on my comment have their say and I cannot have my comment postes. "sscitsongas Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:45 am : 3 : 2 Flag
    cabootese & star, get a life. President-elect Obama elected fair and square and will bring the US back from the brink of disaster caused by 8 years of neocon lunacy."

    How bogus is this site.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    God elected Barack Obama.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:04 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "agentorange, you are such a foolish man."

    Must be that compassionate side coming out again?

    "if you would do a better job at investigating the facts then you would know that there is credible evidence that Obama was born in Kenya not Hawaii."

    Credible evidence? Star, there is a reason the judge dropped the case, get a clue. No wonder 1/4 of Texans think he's Muslim. You have this guy saying X and nothing outside of some guy, Berg the 9-11 conspiracy nut truther, saying it is so. Yup, that's legit.

    Like when did WND become a credible and reputable source? I like how WND daily seems to mostly refer and link to their own site as a source, hardly objective there.

    "If it wasn't true then Obama would stop refusing to show his official birth certificate."

    What are you smoking lady?

    http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:02 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    America's hope for a better tomorrow just won't be there.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:39 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    agentorange, you are such a foolish man. if you would do a better job at investigating the facts then you would know that there is credible evidence that Obama was born in Kenya not Hawaii. If it wasn't true then Obama would stop refusing to show his official birth certificate. Obama can no longer refuse to cooperate. He has to answer to the allegations that he really isn't a bona afide natural born citizen of the USA.

  • Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:34 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    star2, you must really love the kool-aid, huh?

    Hmmm, Philip J. Berg., the same guy who is a '9-11 truther' (you hear that, it's the credibility deflating!) the same guy who also brought forth the case of the US govt. in their capitulation in the acts of sept 11 2001. He would best be defined as a modern day wing nut or conspiracy loon. If that doesn't tell you something, then wow.

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