NEW HAVEN, Conn. – Gay marriage is legal in Connecticut now that a judge has cleared the way. New Haven Superior Court Judge Jonathan Silbert ruled at a brief hearing Wednesday morning that gay and lesbian couples now may pick up marriage license forms at town and city clerks' offices statewide.
Many gay and lesbian couples are planning ceremonies Wednesday.
The judge ruling followed a historic decision by the Connecticut Supreme Court.
The high court ruled 4-3 on Oct. 10 that same-sex couples have the right to wed rather than accept a civil union law designed to give them the same rights as married couples.
Only Connecticut and Massachusetts have legalized gay marriage.
The unions were legal in California until a statewide referendum to ban gay marriage narrowly passed last week. The vote has sparked protests and several lawsuits asking that state's Supreme Court to overturn the prohibition.
Constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage also passed last week in Arizona and Florida, and Arkansas voters approved a measure banning unmarried couples from serving as adoptive or foster parents.
But in Connecticut, voters last week rejected the idea of a constitutional convention to amend the state's constitution, dealing a major blow to opponents of same-sex marriage.
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And yet you still can't answer that simple question. You sure can ask it, but you can't answer it yourself.
I expected no less from you. Your immaturity nevere ceases to amaze me.
DP, God gave you a wonderful brain (well, at least he gave it to most humans) and part of thanking him for that gift is merging the Bible with science. I didn't realize we were having a race, but I'm quite comfortable being the tortoise and letting you think you're winning. Prophet, hahahaha, hahahaha, hahahaaha....you are too cute!
Mike,
You said "Arit, do you have anything more intelligent to do that repost the same garbage over and over?"
And it's different when you do it, how?
"do you have anything more intelligent to do that repost the same garbage over and over? "
Seems quite rhetorical on your part. The level of codependency within the homosexual community is quite high. The need to defend that which is wrong and change the definitions to match the lifestyle are evident.
You say I slander the gay community. Slander is 'words falsely spoken'. The Bible is clear. Homosexuality is sin. Others have posted the references over and over. Therefore you want it to be us who is saying homosexuality is wrong because you dare not say the Bible is wrong. Give it up. You won't win as long as the Bible exists. This is why the homosexual agenda has criminalizing Christianity at the top of the list. The homosexual agenda wants to force Christians to believe a lie.
Arit, do you have anything more intelligent to do that repost the same garbage over and over?
To mike
1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
To mike
Leviticus 18:22 (Amplified Bible)
22You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.
DP, wrong. You present YOUR VIEWS of the Bible over and over, and because I believe they are wrong, I present alternate views over and over. I will not sit and watch you slander the entire gay community with your hatred cloaked in Christianity.
"Who is to say you have the truth about it over the Pope? He's a pretty faithful guy!"
never the less, not I but Christ who lives in me. I'm not right and neither is the Pope. Only Christ who lives in me is right.
My point is simple. It is you who are not reading "God's posts" in the Bible and have jumped to a conclusion. We have brought those 'posts' to you over and over and yet you don't really read them to understand what God is saying. You jump to the 'defend your lifestyle' mode.
The Bible is very clear. Homosexuality is sin. Adultery is sin. Fornication is sin. Sleeping with your fathers wife is sin.
If it's sin ... you don't do it. Period. The Bible is very clear about what is right and what is sin. Read it with your shields down, fall on your face before God praying that he will soften your heart and you just might see what is clearly written.
Who's to say that the Pope knows truth about it over me? I'ma pretty faithful guy too.
DP, actually, I have said multiple times that I could be wrong, but I will find out or I have faith that God will lead me where he needs me if I am. It is clear you are not reading my posts before jumping down my throat. Truth is truth, but interpretation is interpretation, and several times we have addressed that issue (such as a difference in the belief about the Eucharist.) Who is to say you have the truth about it over the Pope? He's a pretty faithful guy!
"You seem so sure that it is God's will for me to be straight that you won't even concede you could be wrong."
It is God's will that none should parish. That's his will. Period. So, no...there is no basis in Scripture to concede I could be wrong. It is you who fail to concede that you may be wrong. We keep bringing up what the Bible says. It is not our place to second guess the Bible.
God set a standard in creation. Jesus restated the standard...one man, one woman. Paul condemned deviating from the standard in any way. It just really doesn't get more clear than that. You've asked for us to concede that the Bible may be wrong and that's just not going to happen. We don't do that for ourselves. Why would you even begin to think we would do that for you? Truth is truth.
To mike
Leviticus 18:22 (Amplified Bible)
22You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.
mike22685, never said God's will was for you not to be a homosexual, I don't know that, but I do know His will for all of us is that we do not sin, regardless of what that sin or sins are.
By the way, you seem so sure that it is God's will for you to be homosexual. Though I have yet to find scripture to support that it is God's will for us to live in sin.
Yes, we are an interesting bunch. God says homosexuality is a sin...and what do you know? We believe Him. That's idiotic to believe God, isn't it?
Mike,
I'm sure I could find a ton of "Christians" that will tell me that it's God's will for me to be a lustful fornicator...and a drunk. Just as you can find a ton of people to tell you that it's God's will that you're a homosexual. Both accounts are wrong. Both are sin. And those who willfully remain in sin are either lazy, or simply rebellious.
You 3 are an interesting bunch. You seem so sure that it is God's will for me to be straight that you won't even concede you could be wrong. I, on the other hand, have said I could be, but I have faith God will reveal that to me if necessary.
God does call satan the angel of light who comes deceiving us with false doctrines. So I would question anyone or anything that says it's ok to live in sin, no matter their appearance. If Billy Graham said it was okay to live in sin, I would question his relationship with God.
Mike,
If "Jesus" told me that it was his will for you to remain in sin, yes I would say it't the devil.
And Jesus did talk about marriage being between a man and a woman, so anything outside of that is outside God's will and blessing.
mike22685, the rich young ruler had an encounter with Christ to, but because he wasn't willing to let go of something he could only sadly walk away. While it is true Christ accepts us the way we are does not mean that He wants us to stay that way.
"Prophet, how do you know that I didn't continue?"
ummm . . . that would be because you are still gay.
"that would be living by your standard actually."
When I see a sign on the interstate that says "Speed Limit 55" is that my standard because I say so or is it THE standard for the road? Many (MANY) people make their own standard for a 55 zone. That doesn't make them right.
55 means 55. one man, one woman means one man, one woman. 2+2 still equals 4 in my world. I guess I'm just to much a simpleton for this day in age.... :-)
DP, that would be living by your standard actually. Jesus never once spoke about homosexuality, so yes, I am prepared to face him. Prophet, how do you know that I didn't continue? You are so incredibly sure that I am meant to change that even if Jesus himself had told you its his plan for me to be gay you'd say it was the devil talking.
Mike,
Stop at an experience. Why not keep going and let Him change you?
Too many people want God to do for them, but stop at doing anything for Him.
"I've had an experience with Christ before, yet I am still gay. Any questions? "
The Gospels detail where demons had an experience with Christ as well. Change is the measure of salvation. You shall be known by your fruits and the Bible is the standard by which your fruit is graded... gay or not.
So yes, I have a question. Romans is clear about trading the natural for the unnatural and Jesus stated a standard of one man and one woman. Are you prepared to stand before Jesus and have Him judge you by your fruits? Is you sexuality dead to self and living by His standard He stated in Matthew of one man and one woman?
Stop where?
Yeah. I have a question. Why stop there?
I've had an experience with Christ before, yet I am still gay. Any questions?
DP, a huge AMEN to the fact we're never the same after we have a personal encounter with Christ, He accepts us as we are but we will never be the same as He transforms us into His likeness, have a great Lord's Day and be blessed as you continue to serve Him, believer.
Absolutely, beleiver....
Those who are genuinely like Jesus have the effect of Jesus. Jesus pulled people out of the mud of sin they were stuck in. They wanted out and Jesus came along and said "I am the way, the truth and the life". Those who truely encounter Jesus are never the same. Everything comes under the protection of His word which teaches us how to use our lives for His honor and glory.
This includes our money, time, sexuality and the list goes on. If you are His you do things His way. You shall know them by their fruits.
DP, and might I add while it's true Christ hung out with sinners, many of those sinners were never the same after that encounter and many of them later would pay the ultimate price for following Christ as Savior and Lord and even though He hung out with them He also spoke to their sin and their need to repent of that sin and once again many of them did just that.
No problem! The real problem here is that too many 'Christians' don't do their homework. I call it 'parrot Christianity' where people simply repeat what they've heard. Jesus hung out with the sinners not the religious as a rule. It was the religious leaders he called "son's of hell". He made it so simple even a sinner could do it. Love the Lord with all your heart, all your soul and all your mind; and love your neighbor as yourself.
Christianity would be better understood if Christians invested in people instead of things. I'm way 'better off' than Jesus was. I have a 'place to lay my head', 2 cars (one I loan), and several sets of clothing, a washer and dryer, a range, dishwasher, TV, mini-dish, DVD-R, riding lawnmower (although I will need to re-ring it this winter) and the list goes on.
How much does each of us take for granted instead of looking at the simple things as blessings above and beyond how Jesus lived? How many people have far less than we do? What are we doing to help them?
Our church just kicked off 'Rethink Christmas'. One of the ministries we are involved with drills freshwater wells and they wanted to send a rig to Liberia. It was going to cost $15,000. This past week someone stroked a check for the whole amount! We have partnered with several local ministries that help the 'less fortunate'. Go to www.brookwoodchurch.org to get ideas for what you can do in your area. You can download the 'Rethink Christmas' service.
Never mistake real Christianity for what is found so often in our churches.
guilty as charged.... you are right, i'm sure. people tend to belittle other people with opposing views. i'm guilty at times too. sorry....
"i'm suffering from OFS too but not so bad as Daniel"
Why thank you!!! Actually, I've had 2 sister-in-laws that were lesbian so I've had almost a decade and a half to observe the homosexual movement up close. Although I don't deny there is kneejerk dogma which comes from some in the church...my positions are born out or observation and data.
Anyone see the footage of some gay guy knocking the cross out of little old lady's hand at a protest? (no joke...about 75 years old) Are all gays violent against the elderly? Did you hear about the hate crime investigation? Apparently a gay person burned a Book of Mormon on one of their churches door step. Are all gay's terrorists?
The answer would be no they are not. However, the homosexual movement has a violent, anti-social and very dangerous element within it. Based on the protests it is made up of quite a few gays and lesbians. Is this just kneejerk dogma? No...it's news footage.
Please don't confuse the ability to promote long thought out positions in a short period of time as kneejerk dogma. You only prove my points.
Mike22685,
You're a right in the since that a poll was taken, but it was never put to a ballot.
A Quinnipiac University poll[7] released April 7, 2005, the day after the Senate approved civil unions, showed that 56% of registered voters were in support of their action, while 37% were opposed to it. The poll shows 42% approved same-sex marriage, while 53% opposed.
Democrats backed same-sex civil unions 66â
Believer, they did! They could have held a constitutional convention for it but that was overwhelmingly opposed.
blue, why not let the people of Connecticut decide whether or not same-sex marriages should be legal?
If radical conservative Christians are so upset about Conn., then move out! The northeast thrives on intellect.. not biblical literacy!
i'm suffering from OFS too but not so bad as Daniel. that guy could never see the fairness side of the gays' complaints. he is too blinded by kneejerk religious dogma.
Arit, tell me, do you ever wear synthetic blends, because if so, then you also violate Lev.
Leviticus 18:22 (Amplified Bible)
22You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination.
"DP, help, why is it that I feel like this as I get older....:-) "
It's called OFS....(old fart syndrome). I was diagnosed a few years ago by one of my older children when they were in their teens....
DP, help, why is it that I feel like this as I get older....:-)
Yes, DanielPaul and I disagree on many things but one thing that I think some on this site could learn, is that we always treat other with respect, never denigrating each other in our replies. We both play by the queensbury rules, which means, fair play and respecting those who may oppose you.
Steve
"something is not equal in that picture. "
Yep, one line has one man and one woman and the other side has two men or two women. One line is doing it God's way and the others are doing it their own way. The concepts are not equal why shouldn't they have their own line?
as they deserve... there cannot be two lines at city hall - marriage and civil unions. something is not equal in that picture.
God is going to give America what it deserves. And the gay agenda will never accept the term " cival union." they want the term, " Marriage " .