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Church Must Overcome Taboos to Win HIV Fight, Says Charity

By Jenna Lyle|Christian Today Reporter

If churches are to play an effective role in the fight against HIV and AIDS, they need to first tackle their own taboos, says Christian HIV and AIDS charity ACET.

Speaking ahead of World AIDS Day on December 1, ACET Chief Executive Peter Fabian challenged churches to confront their own inhibitions surrounding the pandemic.

“In many countries church members are the leading activists in the care of those infected by HIV and the education and training programs essential to prevent the further spread of the disease,” he said.

“Congregations have had, however, to go on a journey to deal with the widespread stigma and ignorance surrounding HIV, often led by individual Christians who have had the courage to declare their HIV status and challenge the church into love before judgement.”

ACET (AIDS Care Education and Training), a global network founded in the United Kingdom, has put together a "Facts for Life" pack and short DVD featuring stories from people involved in its programs around the world to help churches explore HIV and AIDS issues.

“Nearly 7,000 people are newly infected with HIV every day and nearly 6,000 die of Aids,” added Fabian. “Most of these tragedies are preventable and I want to encourage Christians in the UK to take their place at the forefront of the response to this pandemic.”

Methodist minister and director of the London Ecumenical Aids Trust the Rev. Stephen Penrose is encouraging churches to mark World AIDS Day by holding an Asian worship service on the Sunday before or after.

The Asian liturgy has been endorsed by the Christian Conference of Asia and highlights the fact that someone dies of an AIDS-related illness every 15 seconds, often because of a lack of medicine.

The liturgy also challenges Christians to go beyond being passive observers of the global AIDS pandemic.

“We have the scientific means to stop much of the dying from AIDS-related illnesses, but we lack the will to do it,” it says. “This is a spiritual problem — not of those who contracted the disease, but of churches and societies.

“It is a problem that can be solved by leadership. Leadership from you and me, from our churches and our politicians.”

Christian charity hospital Mildmay is also encouraging congregations to “think, pray and respond” to AIDS issues. Mildmay, which specializes in HIV and AIDS care and training, has put together an AIDS-themed worship booklet that churches can adapt for their services.

This year marks the 20th anniversary of World AIDS Day. The campaign brings together individuals and organizations from around the world to draw attention to the global AIDS epidemic. There are currently 33 million people living with HIV worldwide.

On the Web: www.acet-international.org
www.worldaidscampaign.org

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  • Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:47 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Chicago... don't disagree that the church should preach against the sins of heterosexuality. However, as stated in an earlier post, the information is very misleading.

    As they have found in Africa, the number in hetero is also skewed because some people don't want to tell you they are having bi-sexual or homosexual sex for any number of reasons.

    The bottom line is this:

    1. Homosexuality is a abnomition and should be preached against.
    2. Any sex OUTSIDE of marriage between man and woman is a sin and should be preached against.

    Being a moral relativist, or pitting one sin against another sin isn't working.

    That's the bible way.

    Lew

  • Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "spreading mostly among heterosexuals."

    The true church is already teaching Godly living which includes being pure before God. This means sexually as well as being clean of unlawful drug use and alchohol abuse. Homosexuality, drug abuse and alchohol abuse are all sinful behavior.

    Again, God doesn't make rules to ruin our fun or take away our happiness. He sets boundaries to keep us safe and help us become what HE wants us to be. HE sets the standards. HE sets the boundaries. HIS sheep hear HIS voice AND THEY FOLLOW.

    ...so simple a sinner can do it....

  • Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Well, according to the CDC, HIV/AIDS is spreading mostly among heterosexuals. If we follow your logic, then the church should be preaching against the sins of HETEROsexuality."

    This is a very misleading statistic. Hetro aids goes from 2% to 4% of the total cases (not involving shared needles) and the CDC yells that hetro aids has increased 100% and is the fastest growing area of aids infection. This ignores that fact that homo aids still accounts for over 70% of American cases.

  • Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Abstinence. In the sexual field, can anything offer 100% guarantee against STD's and pregnancy that abstinence does? I didn't think so.

  • Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "'Higher riskier behavior or factors'. "

    This is the point completely. God doesn't make 'rules' to prove He's God. He makes rules to protect us. Following His way of doing things would eliminate higher risk behavior. This is what I am for. I am for following the user handbook! (It's made to keep really bad things from happening.) I warn against higher risk behavior as I view them as unwarranted risks. This is why I do not believe that God created people gay. I cannot see how a loving God would create someone who would have no choice but to destroy himself. That is not the God of the Bible.

  • Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    chicago, totally agree, we should preach against all sexual sin as well as substance abuse issues as well.

  • Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    lew2 wrote: " if the church really wants to prevent HIV/AIDS, they need to preach against the sins of homosexuality, bi-sexuality and drug use. People are going to continue to die unless they make different choices in their lives."

    Well, according to the CDC, HIV/AIDS is spreading mostly among heterosexuals. If we follow your logic, then the church should be preaching against the sins of HETEROsexuality.

  • Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:53 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "From what I read you are able to explain how HIV turns into AIDS."

    HIV is the virus, the AIDS is the symptoms of the virus, and generally these days they can be avoided thanks to modern medicine.

  • Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    DP,

    "What made it impact the human body the way it does if we are so much like the monkey? (So much for Darwinism.)"

    Certain types of viruses are species specific, like how dogs and cats can only get some types, while not humans, and vice versa. Though the organisms immune system from monkeys to humans is fairly similar compared to other species, they have ones we don't and such a jump from one host to another is what happens in nature. This is possible b/c of how the virus mutates and attempts to find new hosts, which is basically all it does. So this is spot on with Darwinian evolution. That said, once a virus from a host organism makes the jump to another newer species generally the newer species (that bein us in this case) is ill prepared for a new variant. HIV mutates so fast that the body simply can't keep up, and the only likely prevention will be a vaccine.

    "It has a much higher impact in the gay community...why?"

    Same reason why it has a higher impact on intravenous drug users, or babies born to mothers who have HIV. 'Higher riskier behavior or factors'. Go to the places in Africa where over 85% of the worlds cases are, and it's all amongst male female couples.

  • Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    DP,

    "...and how did it come into being? It just...poof and there it was?"

    No, it evolved, I think from SIV (Simian) last I recall.

    "The theory is it lived naturally inside of monkeys but was not harmful to them. Still, how did it get into humans?"

    Some evidence lends credence towards the virus mutating to now infect humans, this would be the similar jump in mutation, scare and hoopla that was all over the media on 'Blue Flu Virus'. Same principle, but different type of virus.

    "Why were they not effected by it until 1985."

    No, we in the USA only were starting to get the first indications of this new disease, AIDS, spreading epidemic back around 1979-1980. Not till '85 was it linked with HIV as a cause.

  • Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    phat, thanks for your gracious response with regards to a very serious and sensitive issue.

  • Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:27 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    DANIEL PAUL asks, "What causes the HIV virus...?"

    WOW. What "causes" ANY virus? You may have to ask a virologist. Virology is an arcane but fascinating subject. A good sourse for information is at this website:
    http://www.mcb.uct.ac.za/tutorial/virorig.html

    Viruses that have cause human epidemics often start in animal vectors. As for HIV, all the available evidence indicates that it is virtually identical to a virus that occured in certain primate species in Africa, perhaps for hundreds of years. At some point in the early 20th century, this virus known as SIV (simian immunodeficiency virus) spread into the human population, probably through the hunting and consumption of monkeys ("bush meat").

    The difficulty in tracing this infection is that there is not one single illness linked to HIV. By itself HIV doesn't cause you to get sick. What it DOES do is weaken the human immune system over a period of years, so that other germs that normally don't cause us to get sick can cause serious infections in people with advanced HIV infection.

  • Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    BELIEVER asks, "Do you think mandatory HIV testing should be put into place if it is not already and not just for same-sex couples but all couples?"

    MANDATORY testing? Well, it was tried in Illinois many years ago. Heterosexual couples wishing to obtain marriage licenses were REQUIRED to be tested for HIV. Ultimate the law was determined not to be cost-effective and was repealed, because very few HIV infections were found among couples who wanted to get married. By and large they were not at high risk. And of course the law didn't address Gay couples, since they couldn't apply for marriage licenses.

    Today, roughly 75% of Americans with HIV are aware they have it because they have been tested. That leaves 25% of HIV-positive Americans who are UNAWARE. Those are the people we are most concerned about. So in recent years the Centers for Disease Control that HIV testing be OFFERED to all persons as a part of routine medical care. But I don't think dragging people kicking and screaming to get tested is going to work in this country.

  • Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    BELIEVER asks, "Is there not a very small percentage of cases where they do not know the source or cause of the infection?"

    We rely on the word of HIV/AIDS patients to determine their risk and the cause of their infection. When you consider how controversial and emotionlly sensitive the whole topic of HIV/AIDS is, it's not surprising that some people are reticent to discuss all the gory details of their sexual behavior and drug use.

    But as someone who has personally been doing HIV counseling and testing for at least eight years now, I have YET to run into someone who honestly did not know how they could've become infected. It is my job as a counselor to ask people the right questions in as sensitive and discrete a way as possible.

    But consider what an emotionally sensitive subject HIV/AIDS is.

  • Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:32 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I tried to post previously, but was prevented. Hopefully there won't be two posts.

    The CDC has the stats that say HIV is caused by risky behavior.

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5739a2.htm

    If the church really wants to prevent HIV/AIDS, they need to preach against the sins of homosexuality, bi-sexuality and drug use. People are going to continue to die unless they make different choices in their lives.

    That doesn't mean we aren't loving, kind, etc.., but it means we have to face the facts.

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Now...to clear the air....

    "I don't know which conspiracy theorists you have been listening to..."

    You've got the wrong guy on this one. A "conspiracy theorist" in the political word is called a spin doctor. Facts are facts. The fact is that AIDS effects men, women, children, straight, gay, married, single and whatever I left out. My wife, the nurse, has so many protocols she has to follow when dealing with patients just because of the AIDS threat and many other. You're preaching to the choir on this one.

    The problem comes in that HIV is so much more a problem outside of the Biblical marriage bed. The problem is greater if you have more than one partner period. Sexual immorality is the issue here and not limited to the homosexual community.

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "I have been an HIV Prevention Specialist for my state's public health bureau for 16 years. And I can tell you that we know virtually everything there is to know about HIV/AIDS except how to cure it."

    That whole 'except how to cure it' is the bear. So many people think modern medicine can cure anything and heal anybody. Still, my wife (open heart recovery nurse) sometimes can't do anything but make someone comfortable and watch them slip away.

    From what I read you are able to explain how HIV turns into AIDS. OK...floors open...what causes the HIV virus...?

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Sure we do, it's a virus, namely HIV, and this has been known since around 1985."

    ...and how did it come into being? It just...poof and there it was? The theory is it lived naturally inside of monkeys but was not harmful to them. Still, how did it get into humans? Why were they not effected by it until 1985. What made it impact the human body the way it does if we are so much like the monkey? (So much for Darwinism.) It has a much higher impact in the gay community...why?

    From American Red Cross:
    "Before getting tested, it is useful for people to wait three months from the time they think they may have been infected with HIV (the virus that causes AIDS). This is enough time for most people to develop antibodies to HIV (The average time is 25 days.) Otherwise, people may test negative even though they have HIV. This is called the 'window period.' People need to avoid taking risks related to HIV during the period before they are tested."
    http://www.redcross.org/services/hss/tips/waittest.html

    This was my point. Just because someone has tested negative doesn't mean the test will be negative in 30 days. Perhaps my other post wasn't clear. Sorry about that. I was warning against risk.

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    DP,

    "One because of lack of medical evidence and two..."

    Either a person has it and can transmit it to another or they don't and can't, it's not based on sexual preference. Some % of the population have a mutation (CCR5) which prevents the HIV virus from bonding to T Cells and thus it can't infect the host as it can't replicate. Thus making them essentially immune (or at the very least to a strain of HIV) to it.

    "Also, we don't know what causes AIDS that I've heard of."

    Sure we do, it's a virus, namely HIV, and this has been known since around 1985.

    http://www.hhmi.org/news/aidsdvd20080327.html

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:23 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    phat, also if same-sex marriage/union does become the law of the land and considering the fact that even many in the homosexual community agree that HIV/AIDS is a homosexual men's disease in America do you think mandatory HIV testing should be put into place if it is not already and not just for same-sex couples but all couples?

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    phat, correct me if I'm wrong but while I do heartily agree that a very large percentage of HIV cases are the result of what you shared is there not a very small percentage of cases where they do not know the source or cause of the infection?

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:53 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "My wife works in the health care industry and your assumption may not be correct."

    DEAR DANIEL PAUL:

    I have been an HIV Prevention Specialist for my state's public health bureau for 16 years. And I can tell you that we know virtually everything there is to know about HIV/AIDS except how to cure it.

    The fact is, you get HIV ONLY by getting either the blood or the sexual fluids from another HIV-positive person under your skin and into your bloodstream.

    You think "we don't know what causes AIDS"??? I don't know which conspiracy theorists you have been listening to, but you are mistaken. HIV targets a particular kind of white blood cell, the CD4 lymphocyte, to replicate in. These cells exist only in humans and a few other primate species. Over a period of years, the number of CD4 cells in your bloodstream goes down; and since those CD4 cells are crucial to the body's immune response, a lower CD4 count means a weaker immune system.

    By the time a person's CD4 count drops from a normal level (800-1200) to below 200, the person's immune system is so weak that they are vulnerable to serious infections that are typically caused by common viruses, bacteria, and fungi that normally don't cause illness.

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The truth is all mankind is infected with the 'sin virus' which is far more of a stigma than HIV....

    The Bible speaks to Christians saying no one should think more highly of himself then he ought to think.

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "If two Gay men who have tested HIV-negative enter into a monogamous relationship, AIDS is not going to strike them arbitrarily"

    I'm not going to agree or disagree with your statement at this point. One because of lack of medical evidence and two...God can do whatever He sees fit to do. It's not our place to determine what is vindictive or not on the part of holy God.

    My wife works in the health care industry and your assumption may not be correct. A person can come in contact with AIDS in a number of ways. Also, we don't know what causes AIDS that I've heard of. I wouldn't use your assumption to throw all caution to the wind or anything....

  • Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    AIDS is caused by a virus, and viruses don't care what kind of person you are. If two Gay men who have tested HIV-negative enter into a monogamous relationship, AIDS is not going to strike them arbitrarily like a lightning bolt hurled by an angry and vindictive God.

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