'Abortion' Certificates Renew Calls to Defund Planned Parenthood

By Lawrence Jones|Christian Post Reporter

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The Chicago-based Pro-Action Life League is asking for donations to a non-profit service called Option Line (1-800-395-HELP), a 24/7 hotline that connects callers to local resource centers that can help manage a crisis pregnancy or deal with the aftermath of abortion.

"After the national outrage of Planned Parenthood's 'death' certificates that could be used for abortions, we wanted to let people know there are much better places to send their money to assist women who need help dealing with an unplanned pregnancy," said Eric Scheidler, communications director for the Pro-Life Action League.

According to PLAL, a donation of $42 is enough to keep Option Line open and taking calls for half an hour — helping at least 14 people in need, or as many as 1,000 women if 100 people donate. To encourage donations to the hotline, the group will give away copies of the book What Mary and Joseph Knew About Parenting to the first 100 donors who give $42 or more between now and Dec. 25.

The gift certificate offer is not the first time Planned Parenthood has run into controversy over a holiday promotion. In 2002, the organization sold pro-abortion "Choice on Earth" Christmas cards that put a twist on the traditional "Peace on Earth" Christmas greeting.

The Indiana branch of Planned Parenthood also came under scrutiny this week after the release of a secretly-recorded video that showed a Bloomington clinic employee breaking with the organization's policies and giving abortion advice to a girl who identified herself as being 13 years old. The "patient," who was actually 20-year-old Lilia Rose, a history major student at the University of California Los Angeles, claims that the nurse in the video showed her a form that would allow her to get an abortion in Illinois without parental consent. PPIN has suspended the employee pending further investigation of the video.

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Mike22685 »

Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:17 pm Agree: 2 Disagree: 0

I threw no blows. To entitle an article "abortion certificate" when that is not what is actually happening is biased and irresponsible journaling. If you want to argue that fact, find a college professor of journalism, don't try to nit pick every thing I have said.
Forgivensinner »

Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:22 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

Phileo can be tough, who knew. ;-)

Phileo, you are right that society is reaping the result of sexual immorality. And as unfortunate as it is, that result has also lead to enabling the behavior. Although, I'll be quick to add, we (society) definately need to know who's spreading disease. But, that is not a condoning of PP or any other DRs, etc.

I am concerned with the "freedom" to be sexually immoral.

Do you believe if these types of enabling were not available that sexual immorality would go down?
Phileo »

Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:30 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 2

No one's looking for a fight Mike. I am interested in truth, as it relates to God's word. And again, you were the one that threw the first blow. So I feel you need to correctly state that you were the one looking for a fight coming here.

Again, my interest is in the defense of the Christian faith. When I see someone who goes against that it's my obligation, as a servant of God, to defend the truth of God.

Unfortunately, it's a shame that you aren't interested in truth, but in libelous claims against a great Christian news website. What a pity you don't have the intestinal fortitude to defend your claims against the truth of God.
Mike22685 »

Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:19 pm Agree: 2 Disagree: 0

Phil, all I said was PP offers many other vital services and you began looking for a fight. I'm sorry, but you won't find it here. Move on fella!
Phileo »

Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:49 am Agree: 0 Disagree: 1

Mike, I find it interesting that you still haven't answered my previous questions. I asked you some questions to gain some perspective on your worldview, and I've seen enough to make some observations.

Before I go down that road, let me remind you that YOU took the first shot, by "accusing" this website of a bias. So let me suggest to you that before you start throwing around accusations that you are the one who came into a Christian website to bash it with your worldview. All we can do here is simply respond to what you are posting. Granted, it's difficult to gauge exactly how a person feels about something, but I've seen enough to make a few observations.

First, if you are not willing to define what absolute truth is, then may I be so bold as to assume that you would then say that everything is relative. You have yet to respond to any question asking you to clarify what God and the bible says about sexual relations. And because you say that "people are going to have sex anyway" we then have to determine just where our moral boundaries start. You are removing God from the equation if you do that, so we have to know exactly where you are coming from.

But I'm afraid no matter how I compose my thoughts into words here you'll find an conflict in them and blame me for all that is wrong in the world. Might I remind you that when you excuse the moral failures of man by trying to cure the results of that moral failure, that your logic and reasoning will soon be committed to failure.

We first have to address why people are having sex outside of marriage, as defined by God. Once we address the core issues of that sin, then we can move on to bigger issues. But I'm afraid you'd be offended by any suggestion that God has an answer to these problems, so therein lies our key defining quagmire.

Unfortunately we are never going to solve these moral dilemmas over an internet message board or comment box.

I would simply ask you to search your heart to what God says to you, as it relates to the truth of scriptures.
Mike22685 »

Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:27 am Agree: 2 Disagree: 0

Phileo, chill out man! I said none of the above. I think some people are going to have sex no matter what, and providing STD/HIV testing is an extremely important resource in helping to stop the spread of STDs and HIV. Is there a reason you're so against STD/HIV testing and why you are becoming so accusatory?
Phileo »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:47 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 1

"I think people are going to have sex no matter what..."

What does God say about sexual relations outside of marriage?

If you don't have sex outside of marriage, and you marry someone with the same beliefs and values that God holds us to, what purpose would an HIV or STD test serve?

Better yet, from a Christian perspective are you saying that sex outside of marriage should be acceptable in the eyes of the church, and of God, so therefore, have it it with the sex tests, condoms, etc?

Furthermore, since you think people are going to have sex no matter what, where do we draw the line at as a standard? Where does our moral compass take us to then?
Mike22685 »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:28 pm Agree: 1 Disagree: 0

Believer, of course there are STDs that can be transmitted, but Planned Parenthood does wonderful work to help prevent that.
believer »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:58 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 1

mike22685, there are a number of STDs that a condom does not protect against, genital herpes is one major example.
believer »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:56 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 1

mike22685, take abortion out of the picture and planned parenthood goes belly-up!
Mike22685 »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:11 pm Agree: 1 Disagree: 0

I think HIV and STD testing is an extremely important service because its important to know your status and seek treatment if available. Many times people don't know they have STDs and spread it to unknowing partners. Testing and treating them do not promote promiscuity. Handing out condoms could be condemned from a Biblical perspective I suppose; however, I think people are going to have sex no matter what, and giving them condoms again helps curb unwanted pregnancy and STDs.
Phileo »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:54 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

So how would you compare "STD testing", "handing out condoms" and "HIV tests" to what the bible has to say about sexual promiscuity and the sanctity of marriage? I ask because this is supposedly a Christian based website, correct?
Mike22685 »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:21 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

Sure. They offer STD testing and treatment, prenatal health education and assistance, inclusive sex ed, classes for parents, hand out condoms, give rapid HIV tests and counseling. All that can also be found on their website, if you'd like more information.
Phileo »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:07 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

Can you cite some specific examples of "many good community health programs" that Planned Parenthood provides?
Mike22685 »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:53 pm Agree: 1 Disagree: 1

Im referring to the title of this article. I am against abortion, but do support Planned Parenthood because they offer many, many good community health programs. To call a gift certificate to Planned Parenthood an "Abortion Certificate" is irresponsible journaling. It really makes it more of a blog than a news article.
Phileo »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:41 pm Agree: 0 Disagree: 0

Can you be more specific Mike22685? To what are you specifically referring?
John5796 »

Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:41 am Agree: 1 Disagree: 3

"The lack of journalistic integrity on this website is astounding."
So what are you doing here reading it for? Go get a life.

In regards to the story: do these "gift certificates" say "give the gift of death"? Amazing how low this society has sunk.
Daniel Paul »

Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:57 pm Agree: 2 Disagree: 1

O'Reilly had one his program a gal who would go into Planned Parenthood and video them. She caught one of the workers covering up a claim of statitory rape! Can you believe that! She said she was 13 and the guy was 31 that got her pregnant. The worker was going to try to sweep it under the rug and referred her to IL where there is no parental consent.

PP is nothing but an organization that abuses children.

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