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New Quest for Historical Jesus Draws Skeptics, Scholars

By Aaron J. Leichman|Christian Post Reporter

A new group of historians, biblical scholars, and theologians has embarked on the quest for the historical Jesus to objectively determine what can be “reliably recovered” about him, his life, his teachings, and his activities.

"Jesus remains after 2,000 years the most fascinating figure of Western civilization," notes James D. Tabor, one of several scholars participating in The Jesus Project.

The author of The Jesus Dynasty says scholars today are in uniquely positioned to examine the issue of who Jesus was in new and challenging ways.

"Scholars now at the beginning of the twenty-first century are able to take advantage of a plethora of new texts, sources, and methods, including the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, various lost Gospels that are not in our New Testament, and a rich archeological record,” says Tabor, who was a consultant for the highly controversial and widely rejected documentary "The Lost Tomb of Jesus."

This past weekend, scholars behind The Jesus Project gathered for three days in Amherst, N.Y., for the effort’s inaugural meeting. Among those who have been drawn to the project are Tabor, who serves as the chair of the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte; Paul Kurtz, founder and chairman of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry; religious skeptic Robert Price, a professor of Theology and Scriptural Studies at the Johnnie Colemon Theological Seminary in Miami Gardens, Fla.; archaeologist and biblical scholar Robert Eisenman, who is most famous for his controversial work on the Dead Sea Scrolls and the origins of Christianity; and Bruce Chilton, a professor of Religion at Bard College who specializes in early Christianity and Judaism.

Though a similar effort, called The Jesus Seminar, has been seeking the historical Jesus for more than two decades, organizers of The Jesus Project say their effort is different from The Jesus Seminar as it is not largely theologically driven.

"The Jesus Seminar had difficulty separating itself from the faith commitments of its members,” says R. Joseph Hoffmann, a historian of religion and chair of the Project and the Committee for the Scientific Examination of Religion – the secular think tank sponsoring the project.

“Its conclusions and methods raised more questions than they answered," he adds.

At the session this past weekend, participants agreed that a rigorous scientific inquiry was needed, and that the project would be committed to a position of neutrality towards the sources used as "evidence" for the Jesus tradition.

During the closing conference round-table, Tabor was quick to emphasize that "the Jesus Project repudiates any theological agendas, special pleading, or dogmatic presuppositions."

All members of the project are said to share a common commitment to the importance of applying scientific methodologies to the sources used to construct the Jesus tradition.

The Project has outlined a set of priorities for its next meetings, including a "consistent" translation of the Gospels, an inquiry into the causes of the canonization of the existing New Testament documents, parallels between Islam and early Christianity in delineating its sacred books, and the need to carve a middle path between what Hoffmann describes as "Da Vinci Code sensationalism and the truly fascinating story that underlies the history of Christianity."

Papers delivered at the conference will be published under the title "Sources of the Jesus Tradition: An Inquiry," by Prometheus Books in 2009.

The project's next conference is scheduled tentatively for May 2009 in Chicago.

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  • Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    As far as Dr. Wilsons accusations about the deity of Jesus Christ, scripture answers that starting in Romans 11:7
    What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. Just as it is written: "God has given them a spirit of stupor, Eyes that they should not see And ears that they should not hear, To this very day." And David says: "Let their table become a snare and a trap, A stumbling block and a recompense to them. Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see, And bow down their back always." I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation [has come] to the Gentiles.

    Paul even quotes the old testament in this passage. It's nothing new to deny God came in the flesh as the person of Jesus Christ.

  • Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Jean, something resonates very strongly with me in what you say... particularly "If you don't seek you won't find." I appreciate this.

  • Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:24 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I find it interesting that many will follow a leader who can speak eloquently. These leaders then control a mass that becomes lazy in searching out matters of great import especially in knowing about ones destination upon death. It appears to me that a person would definitely want to search out every avenue to find the correct pathway to eternal life. The impact of Torah has been immense upon the major faiths of modern man. Christianity as well as Islam have qualified their faiths as tied to the Hebrew scriptures. Why? Does that mean that Judaism has the ultimate truth so much so that these major faiths must be qualified through association with the Hebrew scriptures and Judaism? Stop relying on others to mold your minds. Search out the true answers. Prove everything through the original language, Hebrew, science, logic, and historical fact. Many today are conditioned to follow the smooth talker. The truly educated can reason. The majority is often wrong. Stop the mob justice of following the leader... prove it out. Read history, and James Parkes is a great place to begin (The Conflict of the Church and Synagogue). Another easier to read book is "How Jesus Became Christian" by Dr. Barrie Wilson. Check out this website www.netzarim.co.il . After the initial shock of discovering the true Jewish RIBI Yehoshua (not some made up man-g-d jesus) you will be able to move forward. If you don't seek you won't find. Torah is the only way. The Hebrew says that there is only one way to eternal life (Torah)and that G-D doesn't change... think about that.

  • Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE2D71631F930A15753C1A96E948260

    The Jesus Seminar on The Lord's Prayer- er, somebody's prayer. They deny Jesus said it.

  • Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Clarification: The agenda I ascribed to "The Jesus Project" is actually that of its forerunner "The Jesus Seminar". As the principals are the same, I believe my post stands as accurate.

  • Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:32 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    http://www.jesus-project.com/intro.htm

    Homoousia316: What does "metaphysical naturalism" mean? Jargon, when used outside its natural habitat, generally is a tool to obfuscate rather than to communicate.

    At any rate: The first premise of The Jesus Project is that miracles are impossible, so they have already violated the prime directive of "having no theological agenda". Therefore, any "analytic truth" that they reach will be tainted by a presupposition that since effects tend to follow causes, and miracles do not exist, then the effects described in Scripture described as "miracles" have no cause, never happened, and Jesus is not God.

  • Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    " don't condemn them just because they do not happen to be 'religious' people. geez..."

    A person who is strongly against prejudice could be said to be "religious about fighting prejudice". Everyone who has a belief, cause, conviction or such is "religious".

  • Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "apostasy"

    Isn't that some kind of noodle dish?

  • Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:41 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

    A debunker's nightmare:

    IT CAN'T BE TRUE! JESUS ACTUALLY DID WALK THE EARTH AND ACTUALLY DID RISE FROM THE DEAD?????

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WE MUST DEBUNK IT! SOMEHOW! BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE! AFTER ALL, WE'RE SMARTER THAN GOD, SURELY THERE'S A WAY TO REWRITE HISTORY SO THAT EVERYONE WILL BUY IT!

    HOW CAN WE CONTINUE ON IN OUR REBELLION AND ANARCHY UNLESS WE SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY DEBUNK THIS...THIS...JESUS CHRIST??!!!

    TRUTH BE CURSED! SAY IT AIN'T SO! SAY IT AIN'T SOOOOOOOO!!!

  • kami »
    Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:45 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Nothing is new under the sun." -- Salomon

  • Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:48 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    "Everything new in theology is apostasy!" was no less true for Paul, and in 135 C.E. Get some semblance of a basis in history! Read Oxford historian James Parkes, The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue.

    While some archeologists are scholarly, there are also a great number of contra-scholarly academics who, whenever it contradicts their set-in-concrete positions, evade and dismiss irrefutable scientific evidence contributed by impeccable scientists (like Prof. Andrey Feuerverger and Prof. Wolfgang Krumbein), even when corroborated by the findings of a court of law (which found the charges of forgery of the Yaaqov ossuary baseless).

    These contra-scholarly academics, secular Jews in concert with Christians, are committed to maintaining the status quo of Christian Hellenist perceptions, which date no earlier than Paul, to the exclusion and contradiction of documented history: the Judaic context demonstrated, inter alia, by Prof. Elisha Qimron in his work on Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT.

    From at least the 4th century C.E., the world has accepted the Church's definition of Jesus as their divine Son of God displacing (superseding) the Torah with himself as "grace," as described in the Christian NT. Thus, Jesus is intractably anti-Torah (antinomian) and contradictory to documented history: the Judaic context, which defines the historical Jew as a Torah-teaching (pro-Torah) Pharisee Ribi: Yehoshua. Playing games with these names changes neither character any more than switching the names of a rose and an onion would change the characteristics of either. Jesus is the intractably contradictory polar opposite of Ribi Yehoshua. Thus, the very phrase "Historical Jesus" is an intractable oxymoron, pre-ensuring that any quest for it is impossible.

    The historically-documented Judaic context defines and constrains the very real, historical Jew who was a Torah-teaching Pharisee Ribi -- and let that, instead of Paul and post-135 C.E. Hellenist Roman fabrications, mold their conclusions about him and his teachings.

    Instead of looking for the oxymoronic "Historical Jesus," start looking, for the first time, for "Historical Pharisee-Ribi Yehoshua." You can start your search, and find an enormous amount of information, at www.netzarim.co.il.

    Paqid Yirmeyahu (member of Mensa)
    Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel
    Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai)
    Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority
    Welcoming Jews & non-Jews
    www.netzarim.co.il

  • Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:53 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    these guys: "Okay, we know Jesus was actually nothing like the Bible and Christians have said for 2000 years. Let's figure out what we all think he was like."

  • Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    apostasy

    you people just LOVE words like that. how can you be so smugly narrow.

    give the Project a chance. don't condemn them just because they do not happen to be 'religious' people. geez...

  • Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Professing to be wise, they have become fools." We don't do what we already know to do. This sounds like a hunt for more excuses not to obey the Bible.

  • Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Metaphysical naturalism is by definition the absence of any "theological agenda" or "dogmatic presuppositions." You don't have to presuppose anything when you say that effects tend to follow causes and that evidence tends to be a good guideline towards reality- these are called "analytic truths" (statements that are true on their own account) and the position is called "epistemic foundationalism"- the only way to question metaphysical naturalism as a baseline would be to say that we live in a hopelessly chaotic universe in which NO statements could be proven to be true (including "epistemic foundationalism is false") so, unfortunately chk555, you're just stuck flailing in the dark for some reason to slander genuine historical inquiry into your pet provincial traditions. hide

  • Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:27 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Before the first ancient text is read, before the first hypothesis is formed, this committee will begin its work with the presupposition that whatever accounts for the history of Jesus of Nazareth it certainly was not that He was God incarnate or that anything supernatural is possible. This committee is lying when it says, "the Jesus Project repudiates any theological agendas, special pleading, or dogmatic presuppositions." Naturalism and atheism is itself a "theological agenda" and a "special pleading". This project is nothing more than an attempt at more biblical revisionism. Remember dear reader, everything new in theology is apostasy!

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