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Americans' Confidence in Religion Waning, Poll Finds

By Audrey Barrick|Christian Post Reporter

Just three years ago, half of the U.S. adult population felt the influence of religion on American life was rising. Today, only a little more than a quarter believe so.

A recent Gallup Poll found that just 27 percent of Americans perceive religion's influence to be on the upswing while 67 percent of Americans say religion as a whole is losing influence on American life.

The trend is consistent with those who attend religious services regularly as well as those who seldom or never attend services, with majorities saying religion is losing influence in this country.

Since 2005, the Gallup Poll has recorded a downward trend in those who believe the influence of religion is increasing. The record low for this perception was in 1970 when only 14 percent said religion was increasing in influence at that time.

The last time a majority of Americans felt the influence of religion was rising was in December 2001, just months after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, when 71 percent said religious influence was increasing – the highest percentage Gallup Poll recorded since 1957.

Previous polls show that there was a long period of doubt about the influence of religion during the Vietnam War era – from 1965 through 1975, according to the Gallup report. Then, in the 1980s, religious influence was perceived as growing when religious conservatism, or the "religious right," was gaining prominence during the Ronald Reagan presidency.

The Gallup Poll suggests that the recent waning perception that religion is increasing in influence is "partially a result of the decline of Republican political strength throughout President George W. Bush's second term."

"At the close of 2008, few Americans perceive that religion is thriving in U.S. society, and a relatively small majority believe religion is relevant to solving today's problems," the report stated. "These perceptions may stem in part from the political climate – characterized by a weakened Republican Party and the incoming Democratic administration – as well as from the overwhelming consensus that the main problems facing the country today are economic."

In other major findings, the percentage of Americans who believe that religion can answer society's problems is at an all-time low, with only 53 percent saying religion "can answer all or most of today's problems."

The poll, conducted Dec. 4-7, comes during an economic crisis and at a time when the vast majority of Americans believe the U.S. economy is the nation's greatest challenge.

Meanwhile, over the last several decades, the percentage of those who perceive religion as "largely old-fashioned and out of date" has been on a continuous rise. The latest poll found that 28 percent believe it's old-fashioned.

Among Americans who attend worship services weekly, 82 percent say religion can answer today's problems. Only 27 percent of those who rarely or never attend agreed. Also, Americans across all age groups were more likely to say that religion can answer today's problems than reject it as old-fashioned. But the poll found that confidence in religion to solve problems increased with age (44 percent of 18- to 34-year-olds believe religion can answer problems compared to 52 percent of those 35 to 54 years old and 60 percent of those 55 years and older).

Despite the decreasing confidence in religion among Americans, a majority still says religion plays a very important role in their own lives and self-reported church attendance has not declined this year, the Gallup Poll noted.

Results of the latest poll are based on interviews with 1,009 national adults, aged 18 and older.

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  • Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Mr. Johnson, in the book of Proverbs, it is stated that "the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge", anyone that take God of the equation is basically an intellectual barbarian without a moral compass.

  • Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Mr. Johnson, I do agree that man has been fascinated with the supernatural and mythology, but we as human being have always put a human spin to define those mythological gods. The Christian god is beyond human understanding, he is the source of all learning and understanding.

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mt wrote: "Babies are just beautiful, aren't they? Is there anything more beautiful - on so many levels? Congratulations on yours!"

    He's a year old now and I am more of great aunt figure ~ I'll take what I can get. My mother emotionally adopted a young girl when I was small and has stayed a part of her life ~ he's her daughter's baby.

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Johnzon wrote: "but as time and knowledge move forward, humankind figures it all out."

    Yes, but we only learn more of how God created His Creation.

    I'm starting to feel like believer with his marriage statement. ;-)

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    johnzon,
    Stephen Hawking did say "It would be very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us." A Brief History of Time, 1996, p. 131.

    Actually, many scientists do delve into the supernatural realm, just not the variety that are bent on the religious foundation of scientism. Creation scientists and ID scientists both deal with the supernatural as part of their science explaining the source for the Intelligent Design. Even former atheists such as Antony Flew, to remain intellectually honest, have come around to believing God to be the Cause for life on earth as this is where the scientific evidence has led.

    Science is based on philosophy due to the philosophic presuppositions used for scientific interpretations. And many of the 'scientific' explanation the public gets are just philosophic conjecture.

    Eminent scientific philosopher and ardent Darwinian atheist Michael Ruse has even acknowledged that evolution is their religion!

    Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality... Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.

    Another way of saying "religion" is "worldview," the whole of reality. The evolutionary worldview applies not only to the evolution of life, but even to that of the entire universe. In the realm of cosmic evolution, our naturalistic scientists depart even further from experimental science than life scientists do, manufacturing a variety of evolutionary cosmologies from esoteric mathematics and metaphysical speculation. Socialist Jeremy Rifkin has commented on this remarkable game.

    Cosmologies are made up of small snippets of physical reality that have been remodeled by society into vast cosmic deceptions.

    So much for science providing 'hard' evidence

    There is nothing in the definition of science that precludes the conclusion that God is the Intelligent Designer, Agent, Cause, or Creator:
    sci ence n. 1 the state or fact of knowledge 2 systematized knowledge derived from observation, study and experimentation carried on in order to determine the nature or principles of what is being studied

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Forgiven, yes, I'm a mutt, too. That's our strength as Americans, I think, even though Grantland (obviously) and Taliaferro (not so obviously) are colonial English names. This is not the forum for this topic, but the Taliaferro (pronounced "toliver") family in America came early in the 17th century to Virginia. Only the British could so thoroughly MISpronounce a name! Babies are just beautiful, aren't they? Is there anything more beautiful - on so many levels? Congratulations on yours!

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Gr8tgary38, The Gods and superstition have long been the explanation for the unknown. It was once thought thunderstorms and the plague were the wrath of the gods. I think we know better now.

    Sure there is plenty we dont know, as an example, we didn't know how the sun was powered until the advent of nuclear physics, but as time and knowledge move forward, humankind figures it all out.

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    All matter in the physical world relates to scientific beginnings, but most scientist are limited (blinded) by a reality that they can't understand. The first understanding of any scientific theory comes from the senses but there is a Cause which science can not explain and a knowledge that the human mind can't comprehend, that is where God comes into paly.

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    HAWK49


    <<scientists who recognize a supernatural Cause >>

    Scientists do not deal in the supernatural, the supernatural is not science. If scientist cant explain something, a scientist would never say it is a supernatural phenomenon that is unexplainable. A scientist would seek additional data and information to find scientific explanations for the phenomenon.

    As far as philosophic explanations for the world and the universe and possibly the nature and existence of the creator are concerned, they hold little value in the world of science. Philosopher once concluded the earth could not possibly spin otherwise we would not be able to stand. Aristotle said logic dictates heavier objects should fall more quickly than heavier ones, he didn't quite get that one right. Aristotle the philosopher was wrong on most if not all the nature of physics as we understand the laws of physics today. Philosophers are ill equipped to answer the questions about the origins and nature of the universe.

    Actually here is what professor Hawking actually quoted:

    "What I have done is to show that it is possible for the way the universe began to be determined by the laws of science. In that case, it would not be necessary to appeal to God to decide how the universe began. This doesn't prove that there is no God, only that God is not necessary." [Stephen W. Hawking, Der Spiegel, 1989]

    "One does not have to appeal to God to set the initial conditions for the creation of the universe, but if one does He would have to act through the laws of physics. "[Stephen Hawking, Black Holes & Baby Universes]

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:21 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    johnzon,
    you said, "Hmm, And what theology might that be?? and tell me how science supports said theology"

    I can't tell you that, the scientists and science philosophers do, however. For instance, Stephen Hawking, "It would be very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us."

    You can do the rest of the research if you are truly open to other truth-claims than those found in the religious belief of scientism. Suggest you begin with The Limitations of Scientific Truth by Nigel Brush, What's so Great about Christianity by Diniesh D'Souza and Creation out of Nothing: A Biblical, Philosophical, and Scientific Exploration by Paul Copan and W L Craig. These will guide you to the scientists who recognize a supernatural Cause outside of matter, time and energy.

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:06 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Forgiven sinner, thank you for the welcome and congradulations on your beautiful child.Another point if Christ is not in any true believer, that person will accept anything that comes their way. Christ sttod for love but that love was for the individual not for the sin.

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:06 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Forgiven sinner, thank you for the welcome and congradulations on your beautiful child.Another point if Christ is not in any true believer, that person will accept anything that comes their way. Christ sttod for love but that love was for the individual not for the sin.

  • Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:05 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    HAWK49

    <<Guys like Hawking, Jastrow, Schroeder, Eddington and Penzias agree that science supports theology. >>

    Hmm, And what theology might that be?? and tell me how science supports said theology

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    johnzon,

    you said, "Perhaps your statement is misguided, how do you know that? It might be true, or not. Where is your evidence."

    Scripture and science are two sources I use. Science supports the notion that the universe (matter, time and energy) had a beginning and that something independent of the universe brought it into being. Guys like Hawking, Jastrow, Schroeder, Eddington and Penzias agree that science supports theology. To create is the mark of an intelligent designer. The Bible states that God has always been and He is the Creator of the universe. It is a matter of a small step of faith to go from the scientific view to the Bible, but I have come to accept the Bible as ultimate truth.

    you said, "PS self-assembly of molecules into membranes can actually be performed in the laboratory and those man-made self-assembled structures are becoming increasingly complex which eventually will lead to man-made living organisms."

    Appears to me you are invoking and supporting the legitimacy for intelligent design.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Mt, Well that'll teach you to say those things! We have a beautiful baby boy in our mix (opps no pun intended there) of a white mom and black dad! Beautiful I tell you! Beautiful!

    Do you consider yourself center? Neither liberal nor conservative? We need a new word....liberative....conservaral. I apologize for my sense of humor.

    Oh and Taliaferro and Grantland? You're a mutt just like the rest of us, huh? No offense intended! Nationaltiy is obsolete these days! I couldn't trace my nationality if I tried. Actually, my grandmother would say I was English, Irish, and Swamp Yankee, but of course that wouldn't account for my father's side of the equation.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:35 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    " but I guess some CP editor suspected racism, so I got blocked"

    I cannot say for sure but the computer may do that all on it's own or it may ask someone at CP. I've got the warning message before for typing what Santa says! Apparently there is a street slang usage of the same term.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    forgivensinner, I just saw your much earlier question: "PS Are you the previous mburrell?"

    Yes. When I posted a parody using the old, polite, Southern "nigra" several times in place of "Negro" or "African-American" or "black," someone at CP was unamused. My wife and I have a black son-in-law whom we loved dearly, but I guess some CP editor suspected racism, so I got blocked. I had to reapply with a new name, so I included my two middle initials (for Taliaferro and Grantland), but, yes, I am the previous mburrell.

    I resisted signing up again, until SOMEbody wrote SOMEthing that I just could not ignore! (I get sucked into situations like this frequently.) I tried to stay away, since some comments on this site can be so exasperating to posters on any side of these issues. I don't know which ones get their knickers in a knot worse, the liberals or the conservatives on this board! Often it's a tie, I think. (No pun imtended...)

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    HAWK49
    <<God has no beginning therefore needs no cause.>>

    Perhaps your statement is misguided, how do you know that? It might be true, or not. Where is your evidence.



    PS self-assembly of molecules into membranes can actually be performed in the laboratory and those man-made self-assembled structures are becoming increasingly complex which eventually will lead to man-made living organisms.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:53 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Can't seem to get through that verse without breaking into song!"

    Depending on how well you sing will depend on if I am glad this site has no audio.... :P

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    johnzon
    you said Nature doesn't contruct that way. Nature uses self-assembly of chemical substances to construct bio-membranes and increasingly complex morphologies over time.

    this is your faith in action; naturalistic conjecture. A presupposition.

    Who created God? This question is misguided. It is based on the assumption that everything that exists has a cause rather than everything that that has a beginning has a cause. God has no beginning therefore needs no cause. Nature has a beginning therefore needs a cause. Ref. Paul Copan "If God Made the Universe, Who Made God?" There are other sources of reference as well if you really want to dig into this subject.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    HAWK49

    <<...that a hurricane
    blowing through a junkyard could somehow
    assemble a fully equipped and flightready
    747..>>


    I agree, a 747 in all porbability woud not be constructed in that manner. Nature doesn't contruct that way. Nature uses self-assembly of chemical substances to construct bio-membranes and increasingly complex morphologies over time.

    << In short, only an intelligent creator explains "how such a complex, intelligently designed universe could come into existence.">>

    Sure a creator might have been responsible for life on Earth, or for that matter other planets in the universe. But then that leads one to ask, How / what created the creator? If I had a chance to talk to God lets say, one of my first questiosn would be, how were you created? What came first, you or the universe, etc, etc. These are things I want to know.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    gary wrote: "Happy New Year to all the true Believers in The Lord."

    Happy New Year to you, Gary! Welcome to CP.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel wrote: "Gal 2:20: "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the {life} which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me."

    Can't seem to get through that verse without breaking into song! :-)

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:25 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    johnzon
    Yes johnzon, your religious FAITH and zeal in scientism (and humanism)comes in very loud and clear

    He [Dr Ben Carson, one of the most respected and successful neurosurgeons in the world today] told the science teachers that "evolution and creationism both require faith. It's just a matter of where you choose to place that faith."

    I find it as hard to accept the claims of
    evolution as it is to think that a hurricane
    blowing through a junkyard could somehow
    assemble a fully equipped and flightready
    747...Which is why not one of us
    has ever doubted that a 747, by its very
    existence, gives convincing evidence of
    someone's intelligent design.

    He then stressed the fact that the human body and brain are "immeasurably more complex, more versatile, more amazing in a gazillion ways than any airplane man has ever created." In short, only an intelligent creator explains "how such a complex, intelligently designed universe could come into existence."

    Happy New Year

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:58 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Happy New Year to all the true Believers in The Lord.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:56 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    All of the monotheistic religions that believe in the One God perspective of things show a more moralistic and united view of how man should deal with each other. The other religions or polytheistic ways are so confused , so these religions encourage freedom in all areas without teaching restraint, and without restraint, sin multiplies into every avenue of human behavior and way of life, breaking down recognizing the understanding of the source of moral resraint, which is the Lord.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:30 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Christianity is a religion. Look it up. "

    There actually is a religion called Christianity. Jesus even addressed it in Matthew 7:21 when He said, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;"

    So, yes there is a religion called Christianity but it isn't Christian. Christians are those who have died to self and live for Christ. As Paul wrote in Gal 2:20: "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the {life} which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. "

    That is Christianity.

  • Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:07 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    WOOHOO HAPPY NEW YEAR! Beware evil-doers EVERYWHERE!

  • Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    OH mt, I do not need to look it up. I know what men say, it's what Christ says that I am concerned with.

    "This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far away from me, but in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men."

  • Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Christianity is a religion. Look it up.

  • Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Profit <<Mohammed was born millenia after God created the earth. It appears from my studies that he took pieces of Judaism, and pieces of Christianity (though he labeled Jesus as a prophet, and not the Son of God) and created a new religion.>>

    1. Mohammed was born a few billion years after the earth was formed.
    2. Based on my studies, all religion is created by man, for man.
    3. Ones religious beliefs are based on many factors- genetics, life experiences and the manner in which one is raised. Christians believe Christ the son of God, Muslims believe him to be a prophet as described by their respective faiths. Its called religious FAITH as opposed to religious FACT for obvious reasons.

  • Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:10 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    eq, you're absolutely correct. Religion is about man while Chrsitianity is about Christ!

  • Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    annie-

    No, I prefer praising Gods2-4.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Praise God1 The answer is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, no RELIGION. Religion killed Jesus, it drives millions away from their faith. Remember what Jesus said about the Pharisees!

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel wrote: " They can't keep God from calling it sin so they are attacking God's people."

    I believe the phrase is something like....

    If you can't discredit the message, discredit the messenger.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "pvlman,
    " I expect fewer Christians will persecute homosexuals in the future."

    I don't recall any court cases where Christians are sueing gays. The court cases say it is the gays persecuting Christians. How dare we call homosexuality sin. They can't keep God from calling it sin so they are attacking God's people.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    pvlman,
    " I expect fewer Christians will persecute homosexuals in the future."

    Do you persecute your children?

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    forgiven-

    I'm never seen a full show of his and I do recall him saying something like that ...

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    rolln wrote: "We've lost all common sense."

    I'm not a Dr. Phil fan, but he does have a line that I find amusing....

    I'm gonna bring common sense back to America.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    pvlman-

    I believe that your whimpify statement was toward my earlier commit. However, I didn't state anything about gays in military; rather it was women in certain military roles that is whimpifying our services. Gays in the military is a whole other topic. Though I do believe gays in the military is again a politically correct maneuver rather than the countries best interest is paralleled with the women issue of servicing in the military.

    Gays in the military, supposing they have a same-sex attraction as they claim, makes no sense whatsoever. It's not rocket science. Why do they not assign male to women units? Do you suppose it would be a tad bit of a distraction? Hello?

    If I were to get assigned to a women's unit and get to shower with them, sleep next to them - though my sinful nature would think this would be quite the deal, there's no doubt that the ability to defend our country would be hindered. So why in the world would we want men or women who have a same-sex attraction doing the same thing? Are they somehow "above" this? Don't think so. We've lost all common sense. The Father of Lies is seeping in throughout our society and we're going to pay for it.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:45 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Just a warning to all those that post sincerely on the CP forums: There are those that purposely spread lies; doing and saying just about anything to promote their cause. The Devil and his associates has one tool that will do more harm if you don't know the Truth of Jesus Christ - and that tool is lying.

    I'm grateful for the many Christians that stand up in this forum and are there for those seekers, but there are those that have no desire to seek - just destroy.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:36 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Can a simple single question poll really reveal anything? Too much depends on how those answering the poll interpret the question. Are they being asked about their own confidence in religion or being ask to to judge societies confidence in religion?

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:28 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    There is a difference between embracing homosexuality and, persecuting homosexuals. Was a time Christians persecuted others because of race based on their interpretation of their Bible. Few Christians advocate doing so now, I expect fewer Christians will persecute homosexuals in the future. As they do, surely the Lord will be pleased with less persecution being done in His name.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:10 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Gays wimpify the military. Respectfully I don't know if that's a self serving statement or one of ignorance? Hetero or, homo bent wimps, don't volunteer for military service.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:47 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Practising Christians need to evaluate this poll whether the resulting numbers are true or false. The question posed is a sincere one. Being religious or spiritual are two separate issues. Religion has been commercially packaged by many groups and many Christians have begun to feel like that they are in a used car lot, all in the name of JESUS. There is a lot of buying and selling in the Temple of God and i'm sure some of you can recollect what JESUS did to those business folks who contaminated the Temple.

  • Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:25 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Did anyone hear about the poll taken to see if people believed in polls? It found that 3 men walked into a bar and the forth ducked.

  • Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    dgnymn

    <The problem with "Polls" is this: anyone can say anything, even if it's false >

    Hmm, polls predicted Obama was going to win in an electoral landslide. The polsters electoral map predictions, based on polls, where very similar to the actual voting results. But polls are worthless.......LOL

  • Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:14 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    The problem with "Polls" is this: anyone can say anything, even if it's false and the pollster jots it down and speaks about the results like its Gospel truth!!! The fact is, we shouldn't pay much attention to the polls, but pay more attention to the Word of God, which teaches us to avoid old wives tales!!!

  • Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:11 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    mtg, unless a person repents of their sin and turns to God through the person and finished work of His Son, Jesus Christ alone, by putting their faith/trust in Christ they are lost and if they physically die they will be eternally separated from God for all eternity. Neither God nor His Word provide for any other options.

  • Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Sometimes I get the impression that many of you folks actually ENJOY the idea that you are condemned. You need to check out some Original Blessing (though the idea is not really as satisfying - nor does it create as much "drama" as - Original Sin). To me, the Fox book on Original Blessing seemed like New Age mishmash - but I can see from this Web site how destructive the Original Sin concept can be for many who take it too literally.

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