Korean Christian Leaders Proclaim '09 as Year of Ecumenical Unity

aaron.e »

Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:20 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

IHS

The protestants didn't leave the church. They woke up. The church has always been there, ever since the time of the apostles. It has nothing to do with Rome, nor will it ever. The body of Christ is not dependent on or even related to Rome, with the exception that there are many men and women in the RCC who have, by the grace of God, become born again believers in Christ and members of the one true Church in spite of Romanism.

aaron.e »

Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:17 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

I reject this with all of my heart, and will be praying for discernment to be the resonating mindset throughout the Church in Seoul. Every time I read "ecumenism" I praise God for His clear and perfect Word that has set apart the body of Christ to be His people. Ecumenism is poison and ultimately has no power in the Church. For the present time, it will surely distinguish the tares from the wheat.

Online4Him »

Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:06 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 0

The list of irreconcilable differences between what the Bible says and what the Roman Catholic Church says makes any joint mission between the two absolutely impossible. Those who deny this are not being true to what they say they believe, no matter which side they are on. Any Catholic who is serious about his faith will deny what a serious evangelical Christian believes and vice-versa. It seems that this ecumenical venture is more political than anything else . . .

Wilderness1 »

Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:32 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

IHS said: "...christ wanted full unity for His flock under his Prime Minister..."

We can find no such direction from Christ in His Word where we are advised to come under the preeminence of one man who would be called:

Pope
Patriarch of the West
Primate of Italy
Metropolitan of the Province of Rome
Sovereign Pontiff
Our Holy Father
Your Holiness
Most Blessed Father
Servant of the Servants of God
Bishop of Rome
Vicar of Jesus Christ
Successor of the Prince of the Apostles
Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church
Patriarch of the West
Primate of Italy
Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province
Sovereign of the State of Vatican City

Let us be alert in these last days, lest we be enticed away from "All scripture...is profitable."

IHS »

Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 4

I pray all Evangelicals like I am doing will come to the fullness of Truth in the Catholic Church.

True ecumenism means becoming part of the Church that Christ founded and gave HIS own authority too. God given authority is far better than man-made. God given power to interpret Scripture for the Bishops of the Church by the protection of the Holy Spirit far outweighs every Pastor interpreting for themselves without the Holy Spirit of Truth.

My dad and grand dad are pastors but even they will tell you they have no more authority than anyone else. This is the problem. God gave us an authoritative Church, but Protestants left.

True Reformation means working with the only church that Christ founded and coming back home. Paul always condemned division and christ wanted full unity for His flock under his Prime Minister with the Keys, the Bishop of Rome.

The only place we can find unity ever as evangelicals is if we throw off bigotry and examine all the doctrines and realize we need to come home to the Catholic Church.

Stop recreating worship, stop recreating praise, stop recreating what the Bible teaches and come back to the original fountain of Truth which is only available in the Catholic Church.

After I finish RCIA, I will be leaving my Evangelical Seminary for a Catholic one to study for the Priesthood to discern my vocation.

Wilderness1 »

Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:40 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

Disciples of Christ should be careful not to gather with one accord in one place under an all-encompassing Christian title that has allowed the admission of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, or strange fire being peddled as simply a variety of "Christian" expression.

Disciples of Christ must show the difference between clean and unclean, a city on a hill, not a city in the valley of compromise, and in no way does this negate loving God and our neighbor. Disciples of Christ are to worship God in spirit and in truth. Such cannot be done among organizations that have conceded to another spirit, compromised the truth, complicated Christ, or have cradled idols.

tamna »

Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:37 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

Jester wrote

"as long as the catholics keep degrading protestants, calling them apostate and a lesser group of people, then there will be no peace. but it's a nice sentimnet though. good luck with that."

Glass houses my friend. Let me change the wording of what you wrote a little bit:

"as long as the Protestants keep degrading Catholics, calling them "(members of an) apostate (church)," "unsaved", "going to hell" and a lesser group of people, then there will be no peace. but it's a nice sentiment though. good luck with that. Everything in quotes ("") are direct comments from some of the more well known posters on the CP boards.

Also, I find this whole article funny. As someone who actually lives in Korea I think that Protestant Catholic relations over here are not good at all. Most of the vitriol and hatred coming from the Protestant side, unfortunately. Well known Korean protestant pastors and others are also on record and video over here calling for the burning of buddhist temples and catholic churches and the desecration of other places of worship. In fact, I resigned from a church over here as a Bible teacher and member in part because of the pastors repeated comments about non-Protestants. To echo Jester: good luck with that "unity" thing. All show, no go.

Online4Him »

Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:13 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

Yes, its unfortunately true that there has been ill treatment towards one another and that more charity is needed. Yet there still remains a division in doctrinal beliefs that cannot be simply swept under the rug . . .

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth (John 17:17).

FullGospel »

Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:23 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

I think this is a great step forward, Scripturally-based, in fact. (Jn. 17:21). Human nature and pride are to to blame for the divisions and hostilities. Misunderstandings perpetuate the divisions. Repentance and forgiveness are needed on both sides.

The devil knows "a house divided against itself cannot stand." Brothers and sisters in Christ, we need each other. Same Lord, same faith, same Father, same heaven. It's time we started living as citizens of heaven even though we're still on earth. Peace.

msnchris70 »

Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

There is no unity without 100% acceptance of doctrine by both sides, but we can strive for it with charity and love.

Protestants treat Catholics just as bad at times PROPHET, and Protestants treat other Protestants some times much worse.

jester in the Kings court »

Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:16 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

as long as the catholics keep degrading protestants, calling them apostate and a lesser group of people, then there will be no peace. but it's a nice sentimnet though. good luck with that.
actually, since the catholic church seems to be at the helm of this "unity" (which probably means they want everyone to belief the way they do), a good step they could take is to send out a formal apology for all the times they have degraded the protestants. otherwise, their rhetoric falls on deaf ears, and the ears of the gullible.