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Ted Haggard: My Sexual Identity Can't Be Put into Stereotypical Boxes

By Eric Gorski|Associated Press Writer

Speaking out two years after being embroiled in a gay sex scandal, former evangelical pastor Ted Haggard said Friday his sexual identity is complex and can't be put into "stereotypical boxes," but that his relationship with his wife is stronger than ever.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Haggard did not rule out a return to public life or the pulpit. He spoke before he appeared before TV critics in Los Angeles to promote "The Trials of Ted Haggard," an HBO documentary on Haggard's exile after his confession to "sexual immorality" and fall as a top evangelical leader.

"I am guilty. I am responsible," Haggard, 52, said Friday in a phone interview. "I got off track, and I am deeply sorry and I repent ... I'm moving along in a positive direction."

Haggard resigned as president of the 30 million-member National Association of Evangelicals and was fired from the 14,000-member New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo., in November 2006 amid allegations that he paid a male prostitute for sex and used methamphetamine.

In a written apology at the time, Haggard confessed to a long battle against feelings contrary to his beliefs and admitted buying the drugs but said he never used them.

During a guest sermon last November at a friend's church in Illinois, Haggard said a co-worker of his father molested him when he was 7, an experience that "started to produce fruit" later. Clarifying that Friday, Haggard said: "I'm certainly not saying that because of that, I did this. I did what I did by my choice, and I'm responsible for it."

Haggard said he isn't qualified to judge what factors into one's sexuality, but still believes it's "God's perfect plan" for marriage to be between a man and woman.

"I think sexuality is confusing and complex," Haggard said. "I am totally completely satisfied with the relationship with my wife now, but I went through a wandering in the wilderness time, and I just thank God I'm on the other side of that."

Asked whether he could define his sexual identity, Haggard said: "The stereotypical boxes don't work for me. My story's got some gray areas in it. And, of course, I'm sad about that but it's the reality."

Later Friday, in a Q&A session with reporters at a Television Critics Association meeting in Universal City, Calif., Haggard said he should have been more open with his family and his congregation earlier, calling his actions "hypocrisy."

Asked to expand on his attitude toward homosexuality, Haggard said, "I believe all human beings fall short of the standards they believe in."

He added, "I would say the biggest change is I now know about hatred than I ever dreamed, and I know it doesn't help. And I know more about judgment and I know it doesn't help. Since my experience, I know more about the power of love and forgiveness. I know a lot more about the necessity of people not judging one another."

At the time the film was shot in 2007, Haggard described still occasionally struggling with same-sex attraction. Asked Friday whether those attractions remain, Haggard did not say definitively but said he was "not anywhere near" where he was at that time.

In the documentary premiering Jan. 29, Haggard is shown shuffling from motel to motel, driving a moving truck, enrolling in a college psychology course, struggling as a door-to-door salesman and pondering his fate while laying in a motel bed in a white undershirt.

"At this stage in my life, I'm a loser — a first-class loser," he says.

Now back living in Colorado Springs, Haggard said Friday he hopes to build his business selling insurance and debt-reduction software and is considering marketing himself through a speakers bureau to share his story — "if the terms were right. I have to earn a living." Continue »

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  • Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    abs, you are wrong on #1, and you are right on #2, except that the church is "welcoming," rather than "apostate."

  • Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:45 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mtgburrell Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:12 pm : 0 : 0 Flag ifeefine, I think even God could not live up to the high standard you hold. Lighten up.....
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    Of course, because you hold such a low view of God...

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    mtgburrell Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:04 pm : 0 : 1 Flag I've forgiven him. He should ask his wife to forgive him - and his children. Then he should go and marry a man. That's teh only way this poor guy will be happy, face it.
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    and like former Governor McGreevey, become an Episcopal priest, right? At least then he will be in the correct denomination, albeit, an apostate denomination.

  • Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'm trying to figure out how we agree. When I said "I hope not" to your comment.

  • Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Actually, I think it's really about the 3rd time.

  • Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    You and I agree for once.

  • Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I hope not. With all the work for God's Kingdom that he's put in, I would hate to see him follow after a sinful lifestyle that the god of this world wants him to. I'm sure that God will deliver him, if he truly is seeking deliverance. Regardless of what anyone thinks, God can, and does, change people.

  • Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:26 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Haggard will be "restored," all right. He will be, eventually, restored to the happy, healthy homosexual that God created him to be. The sooner the better, for Haggard's sake, I say.

  • Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    vcook,
    But I do agree with you wholeheartedly. If Haggard is truly repentant, and working with his mentors/accountability group to overcome this sin, then he should be restored. Peter denied Jesus three times. And see how repentant he was, and how Jesus restored him.

  • Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    vcook,
    Is there forgiveness for one who is unrepentant?

  • Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Well Vcook

    You got anything better....bust out. Show us how it's done. Very easy to sit on the sidelines and criticize...show us what you think Jesus would say to these who defend sin.

  • Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:15 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Wow such hateful talk coming from Christians. We need to strive to be more like Jesus in all things we do!

  • Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    I've forgiven him. He should ask his wife to forgive him - and his children. Then he should go and marry a man. That's teh only way this poor guy will be happy, face it.

  • Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:45 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I have read some of the comments and I wonder as Christians, where our forgiveness is? No forgiving doesn't mean forgetting, but it does mean to accept that person again. If he has repented then he has been restored according to the Bible. I know he hurt people, I was one of those people. But, we continue to hurt him in return. Two wrongs don't make a right. He may be confused on issues, but thats where the church is suppose to step in and say hey, we can help you!

  • Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    catholic - adj, pertaining to the whole Christian body or church.

    Catholic - adj, of or pertaining to a Catholic church, esp. the Roman Catholic Church.

    Let's get things straight here. Fleming, are you talking about catholics or Catholics? 'Cause there is a HUGE difference.

  • Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Fleming wrote: "If you mean to say that Catholics believe their Church is the correct one,"

    There are Catholic folk on this board that continually try to point out the Catholic church is the one and only true church and that the only way to God, Jesus, (Mary, the Apostles, the Prime Minister) and salvation is through the Catholic church.

    But are you suggesting not all Catholics believe this?

  • Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:23 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Father Fleming

    Is there salvation for anyone outside the Catholic church?

  • Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Forgivesinner

    With all due respect, it is the Catholic folk that is continually stating they are the correct group. Everyone else says God is correct and the correct way.

    If you mean to say that Catholics believe their Church is the correct one, I find no problem with that. We all like to believe that we've chosen the right path to God.

    But if your second sentence is meant to say that Catholics somehow don't think God is all knowing and the correct way to salvation, you've been misinformed or have a grave misunderstanding about what Catholics believe. Catholcis have known for 2000 years that He is the Way and the Light.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Smug. Not really. Since I hold myself to the same standards that I preach, I'm not sure how smug I can be.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    And it's not just the homosexuals who won't "get it." I don't get it, either.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Prophet & DP, you certainly do derive much pleasure from your smug positions. (And I am not Mike.)

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    DP,
    Good observations. Simply put. Easy to understand. But the homosexuals on this site still won't get it, will they?

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:12 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "You DO place yourself so high...so superior."

    People on street level look high to those content to live in the sewer.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Why don't they think God is bigger than them? "

    Because then they'd have to repent...duh!!!

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Mike,
    I'm sure there's dozens more threads you can post that on. And you'll get the same response from people there too.....nothing.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:38 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    From another column, but suitable here:

    I don't think Mike is being that way, Prophet. You DO place yourself so high...so superior. Your CP handle says it all: prophet. How overweening.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:36 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    mtgburrel,
    Then why don't some of you live like He is? Homosexuals drag God down to their level and make Him in their image. They want homosexuality to be acceptable so badly that they change God and His Word. Why don't they think God is bigger than them?

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    God, as you and your slavishly literal (and goose-stepping) friends all think, weekenderman... God is so much bigger than the little squabbles we have on this site.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ifeelfine,
    So if my wife dies I can't get remarried? I'd like to see the scripture to support that errant doctrine.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The standard IS God. Lighten up.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ifeefine, I think even God could not live up to the high standard you hold. Lighten up.....

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    prophet said: "Sexuality isn't "complex". Sex outside of a marriage between a man and a woman is a sin. Who was it that would always say "So easy a caveman can understand it...."?"

    You should have put "first" in front of marriage - sex outside of a first marriage is a sin if you're going to say what you said.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    A good and thoughtful reply, philo......

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:44 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    mtgburrell wrote: "philomath, certainly I value the sort of work you are doing. What I mean by "patronizing" is the attitude so many seem to have on this site that "our group" is the only correct one, and anyone who is not like us must need "recovery" to become like us."
    -
    I don't read this site all the time but I have noticed a fair bit of diversity of opinion from what I have read. I would think the one common denominator with believers here is the necessity of Jesus. How that gets walked out will vary from church to church and denomination to denomination. I would think that most people here would want you to become like like Jesus.

    ---
    "I am partly triggered by the idea that God probably created Ted Haggard the way he is meant to be. Our culture forced Haggard into living a lie. If one of Haggards children or grandchildren decides to love or live with (or marry) a person of his/her same sex, that grandchild will be free to do so, thereby creating two more happy lives - not wrecking so many lives (including in-laws and fellow church members) by marrying a person to whom he or she is not attracted."
    -
    With all due respect, the Gospel is all about the possibility of change. Sanctification is all about becoming more like Jesus and is a dynamic process, not fixed and static. I disagree about our culture forcing Haggard into living a lie. To me, that would be blame-shifting rather than demonstrating personal and public integrity. Ted chose to cover up his actions until they were exposed - and it took him a while to come clean and whether all has been disclosed remains to be seen. Part of recovery is coming out of denial and owning the truth about one's life and actions. Personal responsibility is part of the Gospel. If I don't accept personal responsibility, then I will fall into victim mentality, with all its frustration and sense of powerlessness. Peace.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "In my opinion, any sexual addiction, identity conflict, gender confusion can be helped with the freeing truth and the loving grace of God"

    I respect your religious beliefs. However, even Robert Spitzer has concluded that reparative "therapy" offers far more danger than positive results. Why would God provide scientists and physicians (including psychiatrists) if their best work was to be ignored? When scripture and science collide, the WORST choice is to dismiss the science.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:10 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    mt wrote: "What I mean by "patronizing" is the attitude so many seem to have on this site that "our group" is the only correct one,"

    With all due respect, it is the Catholic folk that is continually stating they are the correct group. Everyone else says God is correct and the correct way.

  • Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:44 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    philomath, certainly I value the sort of work you are doing. What I mean by "patronizing" is the attitude so many seem to have on this site that "our group" is the only correct one, and anyone who is not like us must need "recovery" to become like us.

    Of course I am triggered by something. So are you. All of us are triggered by something. I am partly triggered by the idea that God probably created Ted Haggard the way he is meant to be. Our culture forced Haggard into living a lie. If one of Haggards children or grandchildren decides to love or live with (or marry) a person of his/her same sex, that grandchild will be free to do so, thereby creating two more happy lives - not wrecking so many lives (including in-laws and fellow church members) by marrying a person to whom he or she is not attracted.

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:46 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mtgburrell wrote: "You people are so patronizing with all this use of "recovery."..."

    Maybe it's patronizing for you, but I work full-time with broken people in prayer counseling. We see miracles as well as long, drawn out struggles. It depends on the individual and their circumstances. Obviously, something is triggering you. I hope you find the help you need. Blessings...

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hollywood Pastor (isn't that an oxymoron),

    Since you have no idea how we pray in our personal prayers, that judgement puts you right in that "brood of vipers" catagory with us. Welcome to the club.

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    You people are so patronizing with all this use of "recovery." What, he should recover so he can be nice, judgemental folks like all of you? Give up, Mr. Haggard, apologize to that nice wife of yours, and find a guy to marry.

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.

    Come on! not one of you, not one.. offers prayers or encouragement to the guy... shameful!

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Sexuality isn't "complex". Sex outside of a marriage between a man and a woman is a sin. Who was it that would always say "So easy a caveman can understand it...."?

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:53 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    DavidHart,

    In my opinion, any sexual addiction, identity conflict, gender confusion can be helped with the freeing truth and the loving grace of God over a period of time. Sanctification requires grace + truth + time. Not an easy journey but certainly possible. Peace.

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    "Sounds like Mr Haggard has not made a ful recovery yet. "

    A full recovery from WHAT? Being gay is not an affliction and being gay is not something that can be changed - any more than the color of one's eyes.

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Ted previously told the AP "he still struggles with his sexuality yet is committed to his marriage for the sake of his children. " ( http://www.tips-q.com/content/shock-shock-haggard-still-gay ) In other words his marriage is a sham.

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:17 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Ted, I hope you find a good recovery support group. I believe you're a good man who means well but denial issues go very deep in our lives. Blaming/reacting/self-pity shows there's still much more work to do. Criticizing your former church shows you don't get it yet - how much pain your choices caused those who looked up to you as a father, a pastor, a friend, a model for their lives. Until you own that without reacting, you can easily slip into justifying other actions. Lay low, eat humble pie, deal with the issues and God will restore you in His timing. Give the agenda back to God.

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Solar storms hit the Earth all the time they occur during intense interactions within the Sun(they tend to run with the 11 year Sun spot cycle) which increase the intensity of charged particles within the solar wind.

  • Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    i wonder just how important this subject will be the day the repercussions come into being when the solar storm hits.

  • Megs »
    Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:18 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I too agree that it is really strange he is going on the Oprah show and I think a bad move on his part. Oprah has made it clear what she thinks/believes about the church, God, Jesus...why in the WORLD would he support something like that? My family doesn't even watch her show anymore b.c of her views...

  • Megs »
    Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I am not saying that his actions then or since are right...just saying that there is a point in the fact that none of us are perfect. However, I do not believe that it is an excuse for this kind of life choice. Or sin rather.

  • artm »
    Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:16 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Sounds like Mr Haggard has not made a ful recovery yet.

    And why the Oprah show,? Oprah is an enemy of the Church and teaches False Doctrine.

    And God never intended for Man to Marry another Man.

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