Updated 11:59 pm.EST, Sun November 22, 2009

World|Tue, Jan. 20 2009 10:01 AM EST

Atheist Bus Ads Spread to More Countries

By Ethan Cole|Christian Post Reporter

The anti-God bus ad campaign has now spread beyond the borders of England to the heavily Catholic nations of Spain and was also scheduled to start appearing in Italy next month.

In Spain, where 94 percent of the population is Roman Catholic, buses started on Monday to carry the same atheist slogan as the London buses, according to Agence France-Presse. Buses on two routes in Barcelona display the message, “There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life,” translated into Catalan.

Atheists in Spain say they plan to expand the campaign to the rest of the country.

Meanwhile in Italy, home of the Roman Catholic headquarters, buses with the slogan, “The bad news is that God does not exist. The good news is that we do not need him,” was scheduled to start appearing in the northern city of Genoa on Feb. 4.

However, reports indicate that conservative forces in Italy have stopped the ads from appearing on Genoa buses, according to Reuters. Italian atheists affirmed recently that strong opposition from conservative political parties has caused the ad agency to pull out of the bus campaign.

“Right-wing politicians criticized us ferociously,” said Giorgio Villella of The Italian Union of Atheists and Rationalist Agnostics (UAAR) to Reuters.

“It’s strange that in a country where ads depicting near-naked women wearing skimpy lingerie is permitted on buses that we can’t run ads about atheism,” he complained.

Villella said the group’s lawyer will likely file an appeal in court to overturn the decision and the atheist group will try to secure ad space in other Italian cities.

Beginning in early January, atheist ads started appearing on dozens of London buses. The campaign is funded by the British Humanist Association and is publicly endorsed as well as partially financed by atheist posterboy Richard Dawkins.

Thus far, the campaign has raised more than $195,000, or enough to fund advertisements on 800 buses across Britain, with 200 in central London alone, according to AFP. It also pays for 1,000 posters in London’s underground train system and for two video screens in a popular Tube station for a full month, ending in early February.

Dawkins had told BBC in an interview that the campaign is designed to make people think, an action he claims is “anathema to religion.”

Similar campaigns are being negotiated in Australia and Canada.

But in Australia, atheists are encountering some obstacles as the country’s largest outdoor advertising agency, APN Outdoor, has rejected the bid by the Atheist Foundation of Australia for ad space.

There has been some resistance to the “No God” campaign, with Britain’s Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) reporting some 200 complaints filed so far concerning the matter.

ASA noted that the most complaints it has ever received on an advertisement was 1,600.

Also, a Christian bus driver in London has protested the atheist ads by refusing to drive a bus with the slogan.

On Monday, he returned to work and was assured that he would not be asked to drive buses carrying the ads.

Other Christians, however, have reacted positively to the “No God” campaign, saying that it helps spark debate and provides an opportunity to talk about God.

The director of Faith-based think tank Theos, Paul Woolley, said the ads were “hardly going to be a great comfort for those who are concerned about losing their jobs or homes in the recession.”

"And what does it tell us to do when we stop worrying?” he continued. “Volunteer overseas? Give money to charity? Campaign for the environment? No. It tells us to enjoy ourselves. It would be hard to come up with a more self-centered message than this.”

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  • Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "So tell me - if the vote is held again, and the pro-gay marriage side wins, will you claim that it's the Tyranny of the Majority?"
    Your question doesn't make any sense. The dictionary defines tyranny as an "arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority". Since the majority would be rightfully giving the minority its rights, and properly so, there would be no more abuse of authority.

  • Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:50 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Daniel wrote: ""Next thing we will see is the Polygamists getting upset."
    Yes but they'd have to have several different ads...."

    Because we know they can't just settle for one! ;-)

  • Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Next thing we will see is the Polygamists getting upset."

    Yes but they'd have to have several different ads....

  • Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:17 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "The bible was written by humans - how is it proof of *anything* whatsoever?!"

    Well, for starters, it works! This is the problem. Most have never simply done what it says and test the results. I have. It works. That may sound simple. That's because it is. Amazing how much better things work when you follow the owners manual....

    If you want the answers to your questions go and get Josh McDowells "Evidence", Francis Scheafers "Genesis in space and time" or some of the books by Stroble.

    Still, there is no evidence which can convince a closed mind.

  • Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:16 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Next thing we will see is the Polygamists getting upset. They see they can just protest alot and get their way just like the other sexual deviants did.

  • Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:19 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Minneapolitian wrote "Sorry Philo, but Prop 8 is the ultimate in Tyranny of the Majority..."
    ---
    So tell me - if the vote is held again, and the pro-gay marriage side wins, will you claim that it's the Tyranny of the Majority?

  • Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    strag, is that you scits?

  • Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:58 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    straggleyway (I think this is you asking this)
    Heres a question for you - do you believe in Brahama the Hindu god? Do you believe in Zeus the greek god? If not, why not? If you dont accept these gods into your life, what do you think will happen to you? Can you risk not praying them?!

    They are nothing but false gods that no one will stand before. Not just because the bible says so but because God says so. You see that is the difference between the false gods and the True God - with the false gods you just assume with the True God you Know so because of a relationship we have with Him through Jesus Christ! I realize you will disagree however I am just answering your question even if it was not directed to me LOL

  • Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:24 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Ok, Minneapolitian - you claim this....

    "You and other who reject Jesus will face Him on that day and give account for your rebellion. On that day you will see how relevant He is. I will say no more to you on this issue - you are lost and undone before God and one day I hope you repent and call upon Jesus as your Lord and King!"

    First thing... how do you know this? Typically believers like yourself scream "But its in the Bible" Well, so what? The bible was written by humans - how is it proof of *anything* whatsoever?!

    The problem with faith, is that you claim things are true and you simply dont have to back them up. No - the bible it not evidence - it simple makes you feel good and gives you structure, meaning, hope - whatever. However, just because something appears in a book - doesnt make it true.

    Second thing... atheism is about 2% of my philophy. It says what I DONT believe. However, I do believe in many things. I believe in the power of people, in democracy, in using science and evidence, in building up peoples confidence in themselves. However, I do not, cannot believe in a supernatural being - in the same way I dont believe in ghosts or unicorns.

    Heres a question for you - do you believe in Brahama the Hindu god? Do you believe in Zeus the greek god? If not, why not? If you dont accept these gods into your life, what do you think will happen to you? Can you risk not praying them?!

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:49 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Sorry Philo, but Prop 8 is the ultimate in Tyranny of the Majority, this country doesn't work that way over the long term. Keeping religion out of the public sector is not in any way suppressing your right to believe or practice your religion. You just cannot force your religion on others via any vote or legislation such as Prop 8. If you don't believe me watch what happens to both Prop 8 and the idea of religion in the public sector over the next few years. All we have do to do is look to Europe and Canada for a preview.

    Check out day one of the new and improved whitehouse.gov website, it's a window into the future...

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/civil_rights/

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Minneapolitian wrote "Atheists are working hard to keep religion out of the public sector, slowly but surely we're succeeding more than ever, that is really the one and only goal."

    Glad to see that you're coming out of denial and admitting what I said to you before: "...radical gays and atheists are totalitarian in their beliefs, wanting to suppress any opposition to their beliefs. That's not freedom - that's tyranny."

    So thanks for finally being honest about your totalitarian mindset.

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Minneapolitian quoted philomath777, "The difference I see is that radical gays and atheists are totalitarian in their beliefs, wanting to suppress any opposition to their beliefs."

    and retorted:
    "Boy is that ever the pot calling the kettle black. Go tell that to the people that wanted to go and get married in California but due to the Christian agenda Prop 8 passed and they had to cancel their plans."

    Sorry, don't agree. It was a democratic vote. I could give other reasons but you seem to only want to argue with everybody.

    You talk about the Christians going to have to learn to get along with atheists, gays, etc. Yet who is the one arguing here? It's you! In my dictionary, that is called hypocrisy.

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Minneapolitian You said:
    Atheists are working hard to keep religion out of the public sector, slowly but surely we're succeeding more than ever, that is really the one and only goal.

    Well LOL...you may delude yourself in thinking you have suceeded in keeping the real Christians out of public LOL but you are very wrong. You sure aint kept me out of it LOL

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:46 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "Absolutely had it with what?"
    It's quite simple, a lot of people think that someone telling someone else (either directly or indirectly) that their god is going to make them burn in its hell if they don't believe as they do is downright rude and offensive.

    Atheists are working hard to keep religion out of the public sector, slowly but surely we're succeeding more than ever, that is really the one and only goal.

    "I wonder what your motives are for coming to this forum... "
    I landed here by accident last year, now I stop by daily. Just curious, what do you suspect my motives to be? Recruit more Atheists?? nah, I couldn't care less in what others believe as long as it does not infringe on my rights.

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:48 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Atheists and others have absolutely had it and are becoming more vocal."
    -"Absolutely" had it with what?
    I wonder what your motives are for coming to this forum...

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "You and other who reject Jesus will face Him on that day and give account for your rebellion. On that day you will see how relevant He is. I will say no more to you on this issue - you are lost and undone before God and one day I hope you repent and call upon Jesus as your Lord and King!"

    There goes those eyes of mine rolling again. Preposterous statements like that are one of the many reasons why Atheists and others have absolutely had it and are becoming more vocal.

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    LOLOLOLOLOL this one is funny - Minneapolitian You say:
    Your god is not relevant in a secular society, he is only relevant in your home and your church, that is it, period.
    First of all I don't serve god I serve GOD - big difference! Lower case god refers to a false god or an idol - Jesus is NOT an idol He is God.
    God is not relevant in today's world - your right - they have rejected Him from the beginning this much is not news. Man continues to run their rebellion to the extreme then when all hell breaks loose they blame God LOL what a joke! You and other who reject Jesus will face Him on that day and give account for your rebellion. On that day you will see how relevant He is. I will say no more to you on this issue - you are lost and undone before God and one day I hope you repent and call upon Jesus as your Lord and King!

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:59 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "Is it cold enough for you? ...did they build an Ice Castle this year?"
    Hey Daniel, Brrrr, -22 the other morning, even cold for me, lol. The Ice Castle is built for the Winter Carnival which happens next month but I'm not sure if they are building one this year, I hope so though.

    "So according to you if they were consenting to have sex it should be ok right?"
    No and how horrible, I said nothing of the sort. Go back and read what I wrote, I said "consenting adults" not just consenting. If a minor was involved in this situation then the minor is someone who could be seriously hurt by such an act and it should be forbidden for reasons of protecting a minor.

    "What about Polygamy?"
    None of you or my business, what so ever. Although personally I can't fathom having more than one spouse (one is plenty if you ask me, two ugh even more orders to clean up around the house lol), but to each his or her own.

    "Where will you draw the line? I guess no where huh?"
    The line should be drawn where it can cause harm to someone else, no sooner.

    "Well God did!"
    Your god is not relevant in a secular society, he is only relevant in your home and your church, that is it, period.

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:44 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Minneapolitian I guess you don't remember a few years ago where this school teacher was arrested and charged with having sex with one of her students. So according to you if they were consenting to have sex it should be ok right?
    I mean you said: pedophiles are all bad things that hurt people - well that boy would say he was hurt not by the teacher but by them arresting her because in his words he loved her. To prove that after she got out of Jail they married!!!!! Hmmmmmmm so I guess soon that will be ok as long as they are consenting right? What about Polygamy? I mean all them woman in that CULT say they are happy and in love with their Husband....right? Where will you draw the line? I guess no where huh? Well God did!

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:41 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    This just hot off the press, the Advertising Standards Authority, does not uphold complaints made against the posters.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7842769.stm

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:20 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hello, Minneapolitian! Is it cold enough for you?

    ...did they build an Ice Castle this year?

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:16 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

    Sorry I flagged my post because the system cut off some of it due to quote marks.

    "The difference I see is that radical gays and atheists are totalitarian in their beliefs, wanting to suppress any opposition to their beliefs."
    Boy is that ever the pot calling the kettle black. Go tell that to the people that wanted to go and get married in California but due to the Christian agenda Prop 8 passed and they had to cancel their plans. As I said before Christians are going to have to learn fast that they are entitled to their beliefs, but their beliefs cannot be legislated into the secular society, otherwise there is going to be a HUGE push back as we are starting to see. Dont think for one minute that one of the many reasons why Atheists have been getting more vocal lately is because of things like Prop 8. Prop 8 will come down soon and other states will follow. Maine and Minnesota both introduced pro-gay marriage legislation into their state legislatures this past month.

    "I guess you can use that excuse for murders and adultery and pedophilia"
    Baloney --- murders, adulters and pedophiles are all bad things that hurt people, two gay adults in a loving relationship is a good thing and hurts no one. Maybe you would rather a gay man "fake it" and marry your daughter because you dont like the idea of gay people? Gee that will make for one happy daughter of yours. Besides whomever someone chooses to love and marry is absolutely none of your business, just like if someone wants to believe in witches, gods, elves, magic, genies, jesus or anything else its absolutely non of my business and I or anyone else has no right telling them they shouldnt. Granted that is essentially what the Atheist ads are doing but again that is a by-product of the over the top, in your face Christian agenda. Again we are all going to have to live with one another so we might as well get used to the idea of live and let live as long as it does not hurt anyone else. It is clear that anyone who is against the idea of live and let live is going to lose badly over the next decade.

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:40 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Minneapolitian - I guess you can use that excuse for murders and adultery and pedophilia and all other sexual deviance in this world - Right? Homosexuality is about as natural as man being able to breath under water. This is the error in today's humanity Minneapolitian, when they wont take responsibility for their actions being immoral they blame God for their perversions. Oh yeah - when did I ever say we should make homosexuality illegal? You can't legislate Morality.

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:14 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hello A.s

    Have you read how the philosopher David Hume faced eternity on his death bed? It greatly disturbed his friend Boswell, whose death bed interview with him is well worth a read.

    BW

    Steve

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:24 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Minneapolitan wrote...the big difference between gay people and atheists is there are a heck of a lot more atheists and their numbers are slowly but surely growing because unlike being gay, atheism is something someone can choose."
    --
    You're entitled to your beliefs, even though they're not Christian. The difference I see is that radical gays and atheists are totalitarian in their beliefs, wanting to suppress any opposition to their beliefs. That's not freedom - that's tyranny.

  • Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:02 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "If the Homosexual says he has the right to express his perversion then I have a right to express our and God's aversion for that perversion!"
    Your have every right to express you aversion to gay people, but that right is in speech only. You do not have the right to create and/or legislate laws against gay people as I do not have the right to do the same against Christians believing what they want. This imbalance will be corrected over the next four to eight years, mark my words.

    "But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.."
    Wow, you're right, you've just described the 1920s perfectly.

    Christians, atheists and gay people are all going to have to learn to live with each others as neighbors now. Christians have always been vocal about their beliefs, gay people have becoming increasing vocal over the last 40 years and atheists are just beginning, the big difference between gay people and atheists is there are a heck of a lot more atheists and their numbers are slowly but surely growing because unlike being gay, atheism is something someone can choose.

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Atheist signs make a great conversation starter!

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:45 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Atheism - the height of self-centred egotism. The only way an atheist can claim there is no God is by taking on the divine attribute of omniscience. Otherwise, the atheist has to maintain his belief - by faith!

    The atheist claims that wars are caused by religion, yet conveniently ignores that atheist Stalin was one of the biggest butchers in human history. Arrogant hypocrites!

    But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God..
    (2Timothy 3:1-4 NAS95S)

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:32 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    the problem is fredom of speech doesn't go both ways. Any one can say God is a lie or not real but once a REAL Christian stands up and has a banner to place up saying ONLY A FOOL SAYS THERE IS NO GOD that would be considered hate matirial. What is good for the goose should be good also for the gander. If the Homosexual says he has the right to express his perversion then I have a right to express our and God's aversion for that perversion!

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Let the atheists read the story of Voltire; the notorious
    atheist, how he faced eternity at his death bed. Then,
    let these atheists spend their money in these hard
    times to spread the news of believing in "nothing".

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:55 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "It tells us to enjoy ourselves. It would be hard to come up with a more self-centered message than this."

    Wow. Paul Woolley's must be one miserable person.
    I know lots of atheists who enjoy themselves volunteering, giving, and protecting the environment. To bad he can't. Go atheists!

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:49 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "bus saying their wife/husband was a fat slob or a pedophile"

    So let me get this straight, a group of people pointing out that there are some people in this world who don't believe what you believe in is the same as calling your "god" or Jesus a fatso or sex fiend? Wow, don't you think that's a bit of a stretch?

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:36 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    minne
    "Can't religious people just roll their eyes and ignore them?"

    Can't atheist just roll their eyes and ignore Christian signs? No. A kid wears a Christian shirt to school and there's an uproar over it. Just roll your eyes and ignore it.

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    There are probably no gluons, so hug yourself REALLY tight, so your atoms don't fly apart :^)

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:33 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Wonder if Minnea would ignore if someone put a big banner on the bus saying their wife/husband was a fat slob or a pedophile would you ignore the sign?

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:22 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    There are many who would just roll their eyes and ignore them. At the same time, if someone said something about my wife (for example), it would depend on what it is as to if I would just roll my eyes and ignore it.

    The basis of Christianity is a relationship with the Christ. Not believing that someone exists does not change the state of that individual. We accept Jesus as Lord and some would be offended at such an ad.

    Still, it does raise a good ministry opportunity for Christians to start conversations.

  • Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:01 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    So what, I see public religious ads on occasion and I roll my eyes and ignore them, why is this a big deal, let everyone have their say. Can't religious people just roll their eyes and ignore them?

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