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Society|Tue, Feb. 03 2009 03:12 PM EST

Religious Discrimination Embedded in Stimulus Bill

By Katherine T. Phan|Christian Post Reporter

The economic stimulus bill before the Senate contains a provision that would discriminate against religious activity, according to a Christian legal firm.

The legislative team at American Center for Law and Justice has noticed that a provision in Section 803 of the measure contains language that would prohibit schools that accept funding for the renovation of university facilities from allowing religious activity to take place at those facilities.

ACLJ made the observation on Tuesday.

The provision reads: "Grants awarded under this section shall be for the purpose of modernizing, renovating, and repairing institution of higher education facilities that are primarily used for instruction and research," according to ACLJ, which specializes in protecting religious liberties.

Funds may not be used for "modernization, renovation, or repair of facilities -(i) used for sectarian instruction, religious worship, or a school or department of divinity; or (ii) in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission."

"This is a discriminatory measure that must be removed from the stimulus bill," writes Jay Sekulow, chief counsel of ACLJ on his Trial Notebook blog.

The D.C.-based legal group says the provision would prohibit universities that allow student groups to use facilities for Bible studies or worship services from receiving federal funds under the stimulus package.

ACLJ said its teams are looking into the issue.

President Obama's economic stimulus plan was approved by the House last week without a single Republican vote.

The bill has drawn fire from pro-family groups because it set aside $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent sexually transmitted diseases (STD) but killed funding for abstinence education programs.

On Monday, Senate Democrats dropped the controversial STD program from the bill after Republican leaders released a list of provisions they deemed "wasteful," reports CNN.

The Senate version of the bill stands at nearly $900 billion, while the House version included approximately $825 billion in funding.

President Obama wants a bill signed by Presidents' Day.

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  • Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:07 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    From blogger Amy Sullivan:

    "Mike Huckabee says the stimulus bill is "anti-religion." The Christian Coalition calls it "an attack on people of faith." The Traditional Values declares that the economic package "stimulates anti-Christian bigotry." My goodness...this is a classic case of social conservatives ginning up yet another false charge of anti-Christian bigotry in order to avoid coming up with a legitimate reason to oppose the stimulus bill.

    The provision that has the Huckabee gang all atwitter would prevent the use of federal construction funds for college facilities used primarily for religious purposes. In other words, you can't take federal money and use it to build a chapel on your campus...That's been federal law for decades and has to be reiterated every time monies for school construction are approved."

  • Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    What?

    Senate Democrats Add Golf Carts to Stimulus

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/senate_stimulus_golf_cart/2009/02/09/179762.html

  • Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Mike,

    We agree on something! Wow!

  • mike »
    Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    separate the church & state. why would you need funding when the church is already rich. where did all the money go to 'preach the gospel'.

    IT WENT INTO THE POCKETS OF PASTORS & TELEVANGELIST, that is why they can afford multi million $$$$ homes, luxury cars & private jets.

  • Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:15 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    "Say, you mention that Christians did the persecuting of Jewish people and you also reference cruelty against African and Native Americans. First, you need to consider what your personal understanding of what a Christian really is. Rome persecuted the Jews, not real Christians. Yes, Rome is one and the same as ROman Catholic "Church".

    Now, there's a quote from a really sensible and informed person. Good God Almighty! It's thinking like this that we are up against. Why bother?

  • Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:27 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    To Johnzon

    Say, you mention that Christians did the persecuting of Jewish people and you also reference cruelty against African and Native Americans. First, you need to consider what your personal understanding of what a Christian really is. Rome persecuted the Jews, not real Christians. Yes, Rome is one and the same as ROman Catholic "Church". Also, true believers would never have participated in slavery once convinced by the Holy Spirit that it is sinful. Either many of the founders of our country were not true Christians, not to mention most of our citizens were not.
    So, when you make blanket statements like that, you need to discriminate between what true believers do and what false religions do in the name of Jesus. Remember Matthew 7: "Many will say in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not many works in Thy Name,...and He will say, Depart from Me, I never knew ye.
    Just because people claim to be Christians doesn't mean they are. Please don't call the sect of Roman Catholicism a Christian group; RCC believes a false Christ. Their Christ needs dead people, purgatory, dead works, etc. to finish the work of salvation. The true Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible finished it. IT IS FINISHED. There remains therefore no more sacrifice for sin.
    The Inquisition which I presume you were referencing in your comment about "Christians" persecuting the Jews, was started, conducted, executed wholly by Rome and its false sect.You can see why Islam and Rome can be friends; they are both false religions who kill in the name of their false gods.

  • Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    "....such as Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice, who are resorting to scare tactics to try to defeat the stimulus bill."

    You are correct about this, I believe.

  • Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    doug, I see what you mean. Sorry...

    Gee, commenting on the ACTUAL article!?! I thought that after about the first 10 comments we were not allowed to go back to the original article. It's funny how far OFF the title (subject) these posts get sometime. I should have recognized what you were doing.

  • Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mtgburrell, you may have misunderstood my intent. My comments were not directed at anyone who made previous comments, or at any topics raised in previous posts. I was referencing the original article, and the people such as Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice, who are resorting to scare tactics to try to defeat the stimulus bill.

  • Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    doug, I really think there are more people "of good faith" than we realize on this board.

    Of course, many here are just "interested in religion." But many are truly searching. Some are being smart alecs. Some are "burdened" to see how others have wandered away from "the true faith."

    And, often, a person "gets our goat," and we slap right back with remarks we may or may not feel deeply. We are (most of us, I think) still men, and when we start "competing," watch out! (Just ask our wives. They have to deal with us for a lifetime! I guess they love us enough to forgive us. But on this Web site, we don't really know one another that well - certainly not well enough to make an active practice of forgiving some of these caustic remarks). Still, I don't think any of us goes to sleep at night bleeding from our injuries, do you?

    I seem to be losing my focus, so I'll bow out for a while. But I think you know (already knew) what I'm writng about. Later, folks......

  • Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:43 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    This is an irresponsible and calculatedly partisan use of faith and people of faith! This is just another example of why Christians have lost their prophetic voice in our nation, because the people who purport to be our leaders are misusing their influence for strictly partisan ends! Why are we wasting time and energy on stuff like this? Read more on this at http://matters-of-faith.blogspot.com/

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "Now, THAT is about the creepiest post I have seen on CP to date. It reveals the true colors."

    Naw. Your posts have mine beat. But yeah, it does reveal the true colors that you are not a Christian.

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    and this post is couched in his usual sophomoric screed

    HUH?

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I was not invoking the devil I was just copying a post from someone else and my post was a what? speak simple english LOL

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:27 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "For many years the devil has been plotting to have control of how the church operates.<-----
    Yeah that is called Tax exempt incorporated Churches. They are the ones ran by the world system."

    Sawnay did not have to invoke the devil, and this post is couched in his usual sophomoric screed, but he is absolutely correct on the real point he makes.

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Any local church body who applies for or accept an governemnt funds through the faith-based initiative under an Obama administration needs their head examined. --->The church should never put the membership under any rules, instructions other than what the Bible has laid out for the church. For many years the devil has been plotting to have control of how the church operates.<-----
    Yeah that is called Tax exempt incorporated Churches. They are the ones ran by the world system.

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:21 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, Your ideas are confirmation why religion and government are to be kept separate in a democratic society. Enjoy that theocracy thing in the after-life...........LOL.

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:15 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    aaron wrote: "We will never and should never quite fit into any human system. I will never be satisfied until the Lord Jesus Christ, my King forever, returns."

    Why not pray to lose some of your prejudices and enjoy your time on earth? What's wrong with that plan: too pleasant? What do you Puritans want, really? I know Jesus recommended a child-like faith, but - in some departments - it's really OK for you to grow up. It would be good for you - and for the rest of us, really. For everybody....

    But I think many of you just prefer to be hived off in some relatively small (144,000?) "elect" group. Weird....

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:09 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet quoted and wrote:

    ""Prophet, What you need to do is find a theocracy to live under where there are strict laws that theocrats make. Religious zealots will never find peace in a democratic society.'

    I'm patient. The day is coming."

    Now, THAT is about the creepiest post I have seen on CP to date. It reveals the true colors.

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:26 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "What you need to do is find a theocracy to live under where there are strict laws that theocrats make. Religious zealots will never find peace in a democratic society."

    We will never and should never quite fit into any human system. I will never be satisfied until the Lord Jesus Christ, my King forever, returns.

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:56 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Seriously, does Sekulow have a reading disability? The bill doesn't say what he thinks it says."

    Um....yeah. He's just an educated and experienced lawyer who does this for a living. You're so much more, aren't you?

  • Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:55 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Prophet, What you need to do is find a theocracy to live under where there are strict laws that theocrats make. Religious zealots will never find peace in a democratic society.'

    I'm patient. The day is coming.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:24 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Seriously, does Sekulow have a reading disability? The bill doesn't say what he thinks it says.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Prophet, What you need to do is find a theocracy to live under where there are strict laws that theocrats make. Religious zealots will never find peace in a democratic society.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Actually, the founding fathers wanted to keep the government out of religion.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, Yes keep religion out of government and allow people to practice their faith, separate from government, otherwise we would have a theocracy with cranks such as Pat Robertson deciding who might be worthy.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:50 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Daniel Paul

    <<For example, why aren't Christians being protected from anti-Christ Christian hating gays? >>

    Protected from what? I dont see persecution of Christians in America. I do seem to recall plenty of persecution of Jews by Christians. Centuries of anti-semitism by Christians in Europe made the The Holocaust possible. Now that was some very serious persecution

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:43 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    johnzon,

    Actually, the founding fathers wanted to keep the government out of religion.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    johnzon,

    "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." I Corinthians 2:15

    "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?" I Corinthians 6:2

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mtgburrell

    <<You [Prophet] seem to have the idea that America exists to serve only certain people. >>

    My friend, its called religious zealotry. Thats a big reason why the founding fathers wanted to keep religion out of government.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet
    <<Our sins are forgiven, and are no longer.>>

    That might explain why so many Christians I know are appear to be hypocrites.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:22 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mtgburrel,
    Are you telling me that? Or the "pro-gay/anti-everything else" group as well?

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    DP: "...from anti-Christ Christian hating gays..."

    Get this man a seditive.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Prophet wrote: "And that includes even the smallest incest advocate group in America. And skin heads. Communists. They all deserved to be protected. Right?"

    Right, Prophet. Every American is entitled to protection from our government. Whether I agree with them or not...

    You seem to have the idea that America exists to serve only certain people. That's nuts.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    its the governments job to protect us. lol. only as long as it benefits them.
    besides, protecting all of us is like putting a bunch of cats in a burlap bag, shaking it, and then sticking your arm in it to try and separate them.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "It is the government's job to protect all of us."

    It's the governments job to do the will of the people unless the government is no longer of, by and for the people. Then it can make up it's own rules.

    For example, why aren't Christians being protected from anti-Christ Christian hating gays? Will Obama's expansion of the hate laws protect us?

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "You seem to cast many stones. "

    Actually, the literal translation is "you without this sin". Of course, the main question is...where was the man? It's not like you can get caught in the act of adultry by yourself now can you?

    The concept of casting stones was based on an actual physical stoning where people would take a sinner out and cast stones at them until they were dead. The intention of casting stones is to "kill" the person.

    My posts are designed to point out the paths to Biblical growth. It is my intention for people to find life in Christ and run from the darkness. This is not casting stones...it's casting a life preserver.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "We are a nation of special interest groups..."

    We've got so many special interest groups that we don't know what morals are any more.

    "It is the government's job to protect all of us."

    And that includes even the smallest incest advocate group in America. And skin heads. Communists. They all deserved to be protected. Right?

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:01 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    We are a nation of special interest groups! It is the government's job to protect all of us.

    I recall one such group that was supporting a black woman for president the same year Dukakis was running. The group's name was "The Gay Mormon Alliance." My cousin remarked, "Well, I guess that crowd could meet in a phone booth."

    Perhaps.....but the truth is: the GMA, even as a "special interest group," has the same citizen rights you and I do. Why is this so hard for so many CP posters to understand?

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    forsalt, when you have to bring "the devil" into your argument, you have already lost that argument (with any people who have good sense, anyway).

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Brother Walt

    The problem with that, is that Americans, as well as congress, want to fix our economy. And there are certain special interest groups that want their way. So, since they know that a stimulus bill is much needed, they stick their agenda in with it as part of it. Their thinking is that if Americans want to fix their economy, they will have to approve our agenda, whether they agree to it or not. It happens all the time. And if the stimulus bill is not passed, and the economy tanks, then they can smuggly say "If you had passed the bill, then this wouldn't have happened. It's your fault the economy went under."
    The truth is, give us a stimulus bill without all the special interest groups sticking their fingers into it. They are the ones causing our economy to tank. They need to care more about our economy than their agenda.

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Sorry Jay, I totally disagree. What we need to do is just plain KILL the stimulus bill!

  • Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:10 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The article states that the pertinent section of the bill reads

    Funds may not be used for "modernization, renovation, or repair of facilities -(i) used for sectarian instruction, religious worship, or a school or department of divinity; or (ii) in which a substantial portion of the functions of the facilities are subsumed in a religious mission."

    The D.C.-based legal group says the provision would prohibit universities that allow student groups to use facilities for Bible studies or worship services from receiving federal funds under the stimulus package.

    Either they can't read plain english or they are intentionally misrepresenting the restrictions of the Bill.
    That being said I could see radical anti religious groups knowingly agreeing with this misreading to bring lawsuits against universities for perfectly proper making the facility available on a non discriminatory basis to religiously based student groups. To avoid this rather than removing the language they should add clarifying language such as
    Nothing in this act shall be read to restrict institutions from making facilities available to student groups on an equal access basis irrespective of religious content of the groups activities.

  • Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Our sins are forgiven, and are no longer.

  • Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel Paul
    <<God d*&% America" doesn't sound like a good Christian to me.>>

    Isn't there something in your religion that says something along the lines "those without sin cast the first stone". You seem to cast many stones.

  • Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mtgburrell, White America has trouble understanding the plight of those that it once targeted with acts of terrorism and genocide against Africans and Native Americans.

  • Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:00 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Rev. Wright served as a marine and as a paramedic in the military. Yet he was still treated as second class on his return.

    How can some white people wonder why black Americans seem upset at times? Where have these people been?

    Listen to Wright's sermons in their entirety. He is entitled to his view. Besides, he performs jeremiads. Don't many great preachers do that?

  • Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    How can we out who inserted this language into the bill? Is that tracked? That would be a person we should keep an eye on!

  • Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:18 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "Obama is a Christian"

    Define Christian. Sitting in a church which teaches "God d*&% America" doesn't sound like a good Christian to me.

  • Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    vsedriver

    <<for the record the massive government spending did not get us out of the Great Depression. WWII did. >>

    Yes indeed, WWII = MASSIVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING - about 4 Trillion dollars.

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