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Christians Optimistic but Disappointed in Obama

By Eric Gorski|Associated Press Writer

Conservative evangelical and Catholic leaders who went out on a political limb by aligning themselves with the Obama administration are expressing feelings ranging from disappointment to optimism in their reaction to the president's decisions so far on culture war issues.

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    President Barack Obama greets the audience in the East Room of the White House in Washington, Wednesday, march 11, 2009, as he arrived to sign an Executive Order creating the White House Council on Women and Girls.

Although most of President Barack Obama's moves on abortion and stem cell research have been expected, some right-leaning Christian leaders who took a risk sitting down at the table with a Democratic president feel that several major decisions fall short of the common ground Obama had promised on divisive social issues.

Obama's reversal this week of Bush-era restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research is the latest example.

"Thus far, I have been disappointed to see little give. There's been a lot of take," said the Rev. Frank Page, a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention who serves on a month-old advisory board to Obama's White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. "I've seen little give in the area of relating to the evangelical community as far as life issues."

Others point out that Obama is, after all, a Democrat and supporter of keeping abortion legal — and he has promised to proceed with caution on stem cells.

Obama "is not doing anything he hasn't said he was going to do during the campaign," said the Rev. Joel Hunter, an evangelical megachurch pastor from Orlando, Fla., and another advisory board member. "So I am not enthusiastic, but I'm not disappointed, because we knew what to expect. I'm encouraged he is not totally flipping to the other side. We've got to be patient here."

One of the four main priorities of Obama's faith-based office is to find ways to reduce the abortion rate, an attempt at common ground. But shortly after taking office, Obama lifted restrictions on federal funding of international family planning groups that perform abortions or provide information about the procedure.

Then in late February, the administration said it would rescind broad protections put in place in the waning days of the Bush administration for health workers who refuse to provide care they find objectionable on personal, moral or religious grounds. Conservative Christian groups cried foul.

The White House has said the administration was committed to protecting the rights of health care workers who don't want to perform abortions, but was concerned the Bush language went too far and could restrict services such as family planning and infertility treatments.

Obama's nomination of Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, a Catholic who supports abortion rights in conflict with church teachings, for health and human services secretary also has stirred the old culture war divisions.

But Page credited the White House for listening. He said an administration official reassured him that Obama would never force a health care provider to perform abortions against his or her conscience — easing Page's concerns about the so-called conscience clause.

"So, on that hand, I think they are listening and trying to seek some common ground," Page said. "But basically it seems like the more left-wing Democratic agenda is being followed."

On embryonic stem cell research, which involves the destruction of human embryos, many questions remained. President George W. Bush limited federally funded research to stem-cell lines that had already been created by August 2001, when he issued the order. Obama lifted that restriction and directed the National Institutes of Health to propose new guidelines, emphasizing that research should be done "responsibly."

If Congress were to take a step further and reverse legislation that bans federal money from being used to create or destroy human embryos for research, "then we're going back into the culture wars," Hunter said.

Douglas Kmiec, a Pepperdine University law professor, Catholic opponent of abortion and former Reagan administration lawyer who became a lightning rod in the Catholic community for endorsing Obama, said he was encouraged by the administration's first seven weeks.

He cited the abortion reduction goal, provisions in the stimulus package to help the poor and Senate approval of an expansion of State Children's Health Insurance Program, which Catholics on the left have promoted as a way to improve socio-economic conditions and reduce abortion rates.

"As far as the expectations I had for a president who is a pro-choice president and did not share my pro-life views, President Obama has been honest about what he intended to do and has done those things," Kmiec said. "He has been honest, we've been honest about our disagreements, and the conversation continues."

Joshua DuBois, director of the faith-based office, said in a statement that "we have ... begun to work with key leaders on tough issues in hopes of finding common ground," and added that the work would continue.

Some Christian leaders invited to the Democratic table during the campaign made clear they would challenge Obama if necessary. At an interfaith service opening the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Bishop Charles E. Blake drew attention for chiding those who show "disregard for the lives of the unborn."

Blake, presiding bishop of the 6 million-member Church of God in Christ, a predominantly black Pentecostal denomination, also challenged Obama to adopt policies to reduce abortions.

"I can only believe he is going to keep that commitment," Blake said this week of Obama's promise to enact such policies. "There might have been some political motivation that caused him to take the early positions he has taken. But I think he will be just as aggressive and consistent in pursuing policies that will make abortions less necessary."

Cameron Strang, editor of Relevant Magazine, which is geared toward younger evangelicals the Obama campaign worked to target, said Obama has "done what he said he'd do."

He said he was impressed "that they are continuing the dialogue," adding that he felt "there's an opportunity for Christians to be optimistic they will continue to have a place at the table during this administration."

For others, Obama's actions on stem cells, abortion and the conscience clause represent an "extreme shift toward the left," said the Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, an evangelical group.

"I like our president. I pray for our president. I want our president to succeed," said Rodriguez, who took part in Obama transition team conference calls. "But we need our president to really govern from the center and not from the extremes."

But Hunter, the Orlando pastor, called for patience.

"I think it's premature to make a judgment," Hunter said. "The president in most cases is taking a wise and cautious course. I think a lot of people are just shooting warning shots across the bow right now."

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  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:55 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    wshelor,thanks for taking some of these "christians" to task for their un-christian behavior. It is difficult to love the sinner, to love they neighbor, generally, to do as Jesus commanded, but that is our responsibility as followers of Christ. Isee a lot of venom and hatred expressed by people who like to consider themselves "christians", but actions speak louder than words. You can quote Scripture till you're blue in the face, but if you don't have love in your heart, your words and your faith are empty. YOu can't just talk the talk. You have to walk the walk as well.

  • Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:25 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    I don't understand how ANY Christian in their right mind can look at this man, along with his voting record, his history - and hold out any hope whatsoever that he would be anything BUT far-left liberal, bordering on socialistic. He has made his points clear from the beginning and I don't understand the blinders that my fellow Christians have put on... for what? HE is not Jesus. My love, my allegiance is with my Lord and Savior and I will vote according to HIS word - not with some fancy suit whose obvious hope is to enslave the American population with bigger government, to kill babies and to basically forward Satan's agenda all around!

    Shame on you Christians who say you didn't see it coming. We told you all along.

  • Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Excellent set of verses, forsaltnlight- a few of my favorites in there. The issue I have still remains, however, because when we look at those verses contextually, they are meant to apply to those who have been saved. I fully agree that for everyone who has been saved by the grace and love of Jesus, these things are rules that we follow. My issue is when we expect our government and leadership to follow the same rules that we apply to the redeemed. America may have many Christians living in it, but America is not a Christian. Therefore, there is no place where Jesus says we are to legislate these things for others- just a place where He tells us to follow them ourselves (even unto death, as some of those verses' context state!)

    The fact is, people need Jesus more than they need legislation. It is my belief that true change should NEVER come from rules, but only from a transformed heart. Therefore to legislate morality in the name of Jesus seems to be counterproductive to the kind of change Jesus came to bring.

    But like I said, that's not even a big deal. The important thing to me that I would like to hear your response to is how you justify hatred in the name of Jesus? This community made claims that Obama was specifically possessed and worthy of our hatred- and even claims that I am blind, liberal, and unsaved. Attacks against my character don't bother me as much, though, as this attitude of hatred towards nominal believers and nonbelievers. Will hatred and judgment ever draw them to Christ? Is that what drew you to Christ? Or is it, in fact, the unconditional love and grace of God that should be what characterizes His church?

  • Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:22 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    One last comment before it's wshelor's bedtime-
    "if someone was breaking into your house to do you or your family harm, you would either call the police or defend your family yourself and not turn the other cheek, if not you got a problem."

    That's an extremely interesting question, forsaltnlight, and one that deals a lot with the difference between our ideas and practice. In that situation I would both call the cops and defend both my family and my stuff. I would not turn the other cheek, I would take them to court and get back everything they took from me that was mine. Therefore, I would hurt someone to defend my worthless, earthly treasure- but I would NEVER tell you or anyone else that doing so was the right thing to do. Jesus would have given it away. Someday I hope to do the same, but today I am still weak.

    :-) Goodnight, and may the Lord bring wisdom to us both!

  • Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:21 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    haha, it did it again. I think I know the problem.

    I'm willing to drop it for my second main point.

    Second, I believe this comment board's treatment of Barack Obama is sinful. In these comments, he is called a satanic being, full of all evil, an abomination, Satan's kin, and the evil one. For just suggesting that we should love him anyway, I have been called blind, liberal, empty of the Holy Spirit, and have even been directly implied to not be a Christian.
    I don't think his views are right. I just think Jesus would rather have us characterized as a people of love and compassion than what I have seen- hatred. Even if he has done evil, Barack Obama is not beyond Jesus.

    One last comment before it's wshelor's bedtime-
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  • Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:19 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    hmmm, it cut off half of it. This message starts at the comment below...

  • Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    forsaltnlight (and also any other users reading this), the first thing I want to say is- I'm sorry if this seemed like an attack in any way. In the end, we are two pilgrims on a search for the truth, and that search has led us to Jesus. We are brothers, and if I made it seem like it was you vs. me, it was entirely a mistake.
    As for stepping on my political toes, don't worry about that- I'm a very conservative Republican! However, my life goal is to fight for the truth of God as presented in His word- to seek the truth, no matter how difficult and painful it may be. In the end, our goal is the same- to know and be known y God. Now that the personal introduction and "olive branch" ;) is out of the way, let's get back to the discussion! (I love a good discussion, and you've made some excellent points here!)

    (1): "Wshelor, Jesus said if my Spirit live in you, you will not and can not stand for these policies or stand with those who stand for them because of conscience sake" Jesus did not specifically say that or anything that could be translated that anywhere in the New Testament. As a matter of fact, Paul seems to say almost the opposite in Romans 13.

    Sin is wrong- there's no question about that in my mind. (1) I just wanted to propose the idea that it might be better to not force a false holiness. But that wasn't even the main idea, and Iâ

  • Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    forsaltnlight, there are 2 things about what you've said that concerned me.
    (1) A search of the Bible shows me that Jesus did not say what you quoted Him to say, and neither did He say anything similar to that. People tried to make Him say that about the Romans- they wanted Jesus to come in and wipe out the oppressive Roman government- but in the end, Jesus refused- He only said to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. The thing that concerns me is that the persecution Jesus spoke of is appearing to begin in America, and this set of comments appears to contain no love or prayer whatsoever.

    (2) I really question the wisdom of making morals legal. I know it's something that's been a common thought in evangelicalism, but America is not a Christian nation. We are a nation who has often allowed- and even encouraged- Christianity, but as a nation the Bible has never been as central as it should be to Christians. Therefore, although it provides us opportunities for witnessing, this nation should not expect everyone in it to either (1) be a Christian or (2) act like a Christian.

    A government that forces people who are not Christians to act like Christians cheapens the Gospel- the idea that apart from Jesus, none can be saved. Without His saving power, there is no hope- not in a Democratic government, not in a Republic government, and not in any other government.

  • Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    To be an avowed Christian, and to favor, like, "love" the man Barack O'Bama can only mean that such a vowed christian left off their prefix - "anti". Every word that is spoken by the man bears "false witnessing" - to wit: "no more earmarks" yet the "stimulus package is indundated with "earmarks" - DO YOU NOT SEE?!

    He reversed the prohibition on stem-cell research of aborted (murdered innocent) children with contradicts "Thou shalt not kill" (and that law applies to those who support, enable, and further the efforts of those who commit abortion - passes unconstitutional laws or court decisions to permit the same horrendous acts)! DO YOU NOT SEE?!

    He allows the "taking of money from the poor to give to the rich (banks that have been notorious in money-laundering and who continue to launder their money with the aide of our senators and representatives AND THE CLINTON APPOINTED FEDERAL PROSECUTORS, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, ETC). DO YOU NOT SEE?! Wouldn't that money have benefitted the poor, the homeless, those soon to be homeless? OR DO YOU NOT SEE THAT THEY MUST HAVE THESE INDIGENTS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO "STEAL AWAY LIVES AND SOULS"! DO YOU NOT SEE"!

    TO VOTE FOR ANY PERSON THAT DOES CONTRARY TO THAT WHICH GOD AND CHRIST HAVE COMMANDED AND DEMANDED OF US - IS A VOTE AGAINST GOD AND CHRIST -

    YE ARE THOSE THAT SHALL HEAR THE WORD FROM CHRIST - "DEPART FROM ME I KNOW YE NOT" - YE ARE THOSE THAT SHALL THEN HEAR GOD DECLARE - "GO TO HELL"!

  • Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:47 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Brothers and sisters, I am greatly confused as I read these comments. More than half of you have implied that Barack Obama is in some way evil or satanic in a special way. You seem to imply that if we had voted for someone else, things would be better. Do you truly believe that?

    To be honest, I am greatly saddened by the amount of hatred I've seen for him. Not only is Barack Obama a man, he is a man who claims to be a Christian as we are. I know, I know, some of his beliefs are a little... off. He's gone into a few of the liberal Christian heresies. However, our response to that should be to pray for him, not to wag our fingers and tell the others "I told you he was satan!" every time he makes a decision you don't agree with.

    In Romans 13, Paul tells us that one of the reasons we are to submit to authorities is because of our conscience. The fact is, Jesus is neither democrat nor republican. You're allowed to be, but if you are a republican who does not love your neighbor as yourself, your conscience is forefeit and you have missed the second most important rule.

    Hear me on this, dear ones- I'm not saying liberalism is okay. I strongly disagree with Obama's policies relating to abortion. But I think this rampant hatred of his administration and party is exactly what Jesus would have fought against. Let's reconsider for a few moments what exactly Jesus meant in Matthew 5:43-47, and remember that neither democrats nor republicans can truly be the hope for America- only Jesus.

  • Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:17 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    2010...counting down.

  • DRJ »
    Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:12 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    What an interesting idea...people who call themselves Christian, and yet they voted for Obama!!! The real question is "What does light have to do with darkness?"

  • Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:41 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    To remain silent in the face of evil is a mark of a person who is a coward or who has doubts as to what he professes to believe!!!! we had no real choice last election..maybe its good that an obvious marxist is in the white house..now silence is not golden but dangerous...shhhh.lets see how many Christians there really are out there...

  • Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:36 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    disappointed, you say? give me a break. what did you expect from the evil one?

  • Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:13 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Sorry about that. You so called Christians who supported O during the election. What else did you expect from confirmed secular humanist.

  • Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    come on!! disappointed? give me a break. what do you expect from satan's kin?

  • Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    I guess folks just chose to ignore Obama's positions:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/01/AR2008040102197.html

  • Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    duh..a guy who never worked for a living..somehow attended all the best private..private schools...has a track record of being pro-baby killing and just another good ole boy of the establishment.and you quote a story of 'disappointment' ya gotta be kiddin....golly Judas also did not quite help Jesus and His followers and their mission..the jerks you quote must be flat earth trustees..

  • Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:44 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    <But Page credited the White House for listening. He said an administration official reassured him that Obama would never force a health care provider to perform abortions against his or her conscience â

  • Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:40 am Agree: 4   Disagree: 8

    Joel Hunter said: "So I am not enthusiastic, but I'm not disappointed, because we knew what to expect. I'm encouraged he is not totally flipping to the other side. We've got to be patient here."

    It takes absolute gall or ignorance for a pastor to say that about Obama's radical policies.

    Pastor Hunter does not have the slightest clue about the biblical significance of the sanctity of human life.

    Otherwise he would not be such a ardent Obama apologist.

  • Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:20 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    This administraion must believe in magic...Obama said today that we will not use the terms "terrorist" and "enemy-combatant" in our public discourse.

    Since we don't have names for these entities anymore, does this mean they no longer exist?
    They've disappeared? Abracadabra...Poof! No more terrorists and enemy combatants!

    Magic.

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Why would any one want to be patient while this guy obama rips apart and shreds the american life.These libral DEMOCRATS destroy what ever they touch.Our government is worse than the criminals they put in jails!Does'nt anybody in AMERICA know that these people work for the american citizenThey don't have the right to do anything that Americans don't want them to do!Why aren't we as Americans holding these criminals accountable and responsable for there actions?I can't understand it, there acting like there not accountable to anyone. When they are!Other countrys march in protest by the hundreds of thousands and literaly shut there country down until things are made the way there suppose to be! What the hec is wrong with us ? DeaconDon

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    "We were guaranteed health care for life for the injuries we sustained while serving our country "

    My son is in Iraq as I post. Thus, your service is appriciated and respected by this Army dad. May America learn from this vast electorial mistake and correct itself in 2010.

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    DISAPPOINTED???? Too bad. You voted for him. What a shame. He is nothing but evil.

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Obama is a mere man, and has been made into an idol, by the press, I was sadden by his win, and I think America will have to face the judgement of God.
    It is written "it is an Abomonation to have unjust scales" I think this sums up the Democratic party, Biden said it was patriotic to pay taxes, and apparently there are few of them in Obama's cabnet

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Not that I voted for the man (I was smart enough to look at his voting record), but now he wants service-connected veterans like myself to use our own private health insurance to pay for treatment of our service-connected disabilities. For those with serious injuries (i.e., OIF/OEF battle vets), this can max out their benefits - as well as those of their dependents - in a matter of months, leaving them with no care at all. We were guaranteed health care for life for the injuries we sustained while serving our country - haven't we paid enough? Apparently Obama thinks not.

    Source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/10/veterans.health.insurance/index.html

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    OH JESUS!!!!! Disappointed???? Give me a break. Since when do christians become optimistic about a satanic being? This man is full of all evil.

  • Chip »
    Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:31 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    Apparently, the most honest person this election cycle was unfortunately, Obama himself! He did not hide his evil- the religious leaders simply ignored it!

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:30 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    What exactly did people expect????? It's not like you couldn't view his voting record. Oh well, pie is on the menu and everyone is getting some!

  • Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:56 am Agree: 6   Disagree: 3

    "Conservative evangelical and Catholic leaders who went out on a political limb "

    Which wouldn't have happened if they had stuck to their Christian roots....

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