Updated 04:40 pm.EST, Sat November 21, 2009

Society|Tue, Mar. 31 2009 10:07 AM EDT

Vt. Governor Flooded with Critical, Supportive Mail Over Gay Marriage

By Nathan Black|Christian Post Reporter

Before Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas announced that he will veto a same-sex marriage bill, the majority of his letters and e-mails showed opposition to the measure.

Days after his announcement, most of his mail is now coming from same-sex marriage supporters who are critical of Douglas' pledge.

" ... your choice to veto is a slap in the face and a firm reminder that in your opinion, my partner and I are worth less than others simply because we are of the same gender," wrote a South Burlington man, according to The Associated Press which obtained the letters.

After passing through the Senate, a bill that would legalize marriage for gay and lesbian couples in the state moved to the House last week. It was then that the governor said he will veto the measure if it reached his desk.

Douglas said it was not his normal policy to make such an announcement before it passed the legislature. But he explained his intent, saying "the speculation about my decision has added to the anxiety of the moment and further diverts attention from our most pressing issues, and I cannot allow that to happen," as reported by The New York Times.

Since his announcement, the governor's mailbag and e-mail inbox flooded with about 1,500 responses, many criticizing the pledge and some showing support.

"It takes courage," wrote a woman from Ovando, Mont., as reported by AP. "Keep up the fight. Our prayers are with you. You are setting an example for other states."

Vermont was the first state to pass a civil unions law in 2000. It would become the third state after Massachusetts and Connecticut to allow same-sex marriage and the first state to permit it by a vote of the legislature if the bill becomes law. The House of Representatives is expected to vote on it Friday.

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  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Well, it looks like the mad flagger is back LOL

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey, no among true believers we call it a Prayer Closet where we go to spend time alone with God as opposed to the closet you hang out in whining and eating Swiss cheese!

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:46 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "mickey,
    it appears that your choice of drugs is "stupidity". "

    Not everyone has your problem.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:46 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "maybe mickey overdosed on his drug. "

    Not everyone has your problems.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:02 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Nope."

    Yep

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "Forgot again, huh?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

    Nope.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:53 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, you must have been looking in a mirror while you were posting your last post since you are the only one who is taking verses out of context and trying to make them say what they don't, but only what you want them to!"

    I guess that whine of your must be getting pretty ripe.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:52 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "No I don't. "

    Forgot again, huh?

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "Yes you do, you just forgot."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    No I don't.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:08 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey, you must have been looking in a mirror while you were posting your last post since you are the only one who is taking verses out of context and trying to make them say what they don't, but only what you want them to!

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:39 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, verse by verse, no two verses that you have taken totally out of context! "

    You take all the verses out of context and then try to change what they actually say into what you want them to say. No one believes you any more believer. You've shown your agenda has nothing to do with truth, both in your life and your posts.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mickey, verse by verse, no two verses that you have taken totally out of context!

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    I remember.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:36 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "No I don't."

    Still can't remember, huh?

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    No I don't.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "Don't know what you know about them. You brought it up..."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Yes, and you said " I can see that you know a lot about them." Apparently, I posted something for you to see that explained how much I know about them. What was it?

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:54 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    ""I can see that you know a lot about them. Was that another or your "sins"????"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    What do I know about them? "

    Don't know what you know about them. You brought it up...

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:41 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "I can see that you know a lot about them. Was that another or your "sins"????"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    What do I know about them?

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:38 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Advil. I use Tylenol sometimes.

    But since you know what I am talking about, but avoiding the issue, I'll drop it. "

    You're the one who brings up all the other drugs. I can see that you know a lot about them. Was that another or your "sins"????

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    ""So, Mickey, what's your drug of choice? Meth? Cocaine? Marijuana? "

    Actually I use Zocor and occasionally Tylenol. I assume the list you gave are the one's your more familiar with from personal use."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Oh, then you do think drug use is a sin?

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:14 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "God did not sanction polygamy in Old Testament times. Contrary to the suppositions many have accepted, God forbade it -- and PUNISHED for it!"

    Yet not one verse exists where someone was punished by God for having multiple wives. You obviously don't know much about the Bible other than to wave verses around you don't understand.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:12 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, the only one in denial is you as you continue to willfully deny the clear teachings of God's Word with regards to marriage and sexual intimacy, so when you're ready to provide legitimate biblical support for your bogus views please let me know!!"'

    You've been given verse by verse yet you choose to ignore them and are unable to give one verse to support YOU opinions. Please show us where God condemns same sex marriage or polygamy. Just list the verses that speak to those or admit you simply make it up as you go.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Jehovahnissi, I meant the Pro-Family Leaders site and not this one, I guess it's getting late!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Jehovahnissi, as much as mickey will ridicule your thorough work in clearly presenting God's view in this matter please know that I truly appreciate it and I'm gleaning much from it on both this site and the Vermont Governor site. Be blessed as you continue to serve Him and have a great and blessed Resurrection Day tomorrow and the same to all my brothers and sisters in Christ!!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    So, Mickey, what's your drug of choice? Meth? Cocaine? Marijuana?

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mickey, the only one in denial is you as you continue to willfully deny the clear teachings of God's Word with regards to marriage and sexual intimacy, so when you're ready to provide legitimate biblical support for your bogus views please let me know!!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:25 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    "mickey, a person in denial as you are usually doesn't get it, but considering how patient God is with me how can I not do my best with His help to be any less patient with you."

    God NEEDS to bed patient with you as you are in constant denial of Him.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    ""Who here besides me believes drug use is a sin?"

    There goes all the Tylanol...."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    No suprise that you don't find it a sin.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey, a person in denial as you are usually doesn't get it, but considering how patient God is with me how can I not do my best with His help to be any less patient with you.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:25 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, God has made no mistake it is simply you who have willfully chosen to mistakingly interpret God's inerrant Word and/or rely on liberal theologian's interpretation, some of whom are more than likely not even saved!"

    True God makes no mistakes which is why I wonder why you doubt Him so much. You deny your life, you deny the Bible, you seem to deny anything that is good in the world and condemn everyone that doesn't see life from your warped perspective. I don't get it.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mickey, God has made no mistake it is simply you who have willfully chosen to mistakingly interpret God's inerrant Word and/or rely on liberal theologian's interpretation, some of whom are more than likely not even saved!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:02 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, not reposting nonsense, just sharing God's inerrant Word with regard to His original and only design for both marriage and sexual intimacy as opposed to you sharing a passage of scripture that has absolutely nothing to do with marriage!"

    You have yet to share God's inerrant word. You simply want to force YOUR "inerrant" word down everyone's throat and when we don't buy it you have a tantrum and say people are slandering you. I still can't figure out why you bother with a book that means so little to you. When it says clearly in black and white that God GAVE one man's wives to another, it's pretty clear He had NO problem with polygamy or He would never have done that. So why don't you write a new book:
    "Believer's Bible"
    the inerrant word of Believer who has come among us to correct all the mistakes God made.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:45 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 3

    mickey, not reposting nonsense, just sharing God's inerrant Word with regard to His original and only design for both marriage and sexual intimacy as opposed to you sharing a passage of scripture that has absolutely nothing to do with marriage!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:54 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, you must have biblical dyslexia since God does indeed state that the original and only design for marriage is one man and one woman whereas He states no where that He ordains any other form of marriage but that. And the same is true for His original and only design for sexual intimacy that it is reserved for the marriage bed of one man and one man and once again He ordains no there option but that. And once again as of yet you have offered no valid scripture than that other than a feeble attempt to twist God's Word to say that by using a passage of scripture that has absolutely nothing to do with marriage!"

    Do you think re-posting your nonsense will somehow make it true? You've yet to show ANY verse from the Bible or any other religious text where God says ONLY a man and a woman can marry AND you've been shown verses from 2 Samuel where God clearly has NO problem with polygamy. You need to twist the Bible is of no value to people who actually want the truth.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:27 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey, you must have biblical dyslexia since God does indeed state that the original and only design for marriage is one man and one woman whereas He states no where that He ordains any other form of marriage but that. And the same is true for His original and only design for sexual intimacy that it is reserved for the marriage bed of one man and one man and once again He ordains no there option but that. And once again as of yet you have offered no valid scripture than that other than a feeble attempt to twist God's Word to say that by using a passage of scripture that has absolutely nothing to do with marriage!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:06 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Who here besides me believes drug use is a sin?"

    There goes all the Tylanol....

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:04 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Who here besides me believes drug use is a sin?

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:12 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey, God does not need to since His Word clearly teaches what His original and only design for marriage and sexual intimacy are. The same way God did not need to specifically call pedophilia a sin since His Word is clear about how He feels about anyone who would purposely harm a child in anyway. Plus, once again the negative consequences cited with regards to every polygamous relationship spoken to in the Bible should make it pretty obvious that polygamy is not a good thing and therefore not ordained by God.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:21 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, I have my friend which I shared with you on an earlier post last night and yet you have provided not one valid scripture that teaches otherwise!"

    Funny how you can provide NO verses to support your warped view of the Bible but always demand them of everyone else. Please show us where God calls polygamy an abomination or a sin.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:19 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Would He? Apparently not, because He didn't."

    Wow, so now you think the Bible lies.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    "God must have considered it a benefit otherwise he would have just taken the wives away saying that polygamy was an abomination."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Would He? Apparently not, because He didn't.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey, I have my friend which I shared with you on an earlier post last night and yet you have provided not one valid scripture that teaches otherwise!

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:00 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, ONLY proof that there is one form of marriage ordained by God, ABSOLUTELY NO proof of any other form of marriage ordained by God! Now once again what kind of cheese did you want to go along with your whine, I would suggest Swiss since it has as many holes in it as your view of the Word of God does!!!:0)"

    Yet not one verse saying that one man one woman is the only way and not one verse calling polygamy a sin or an abomination. If you're going to continue to wave the Bible around, you really need to find at least one or two verses that back up what you want God to do. My guess, God didn't put it there because He doesn't feel the need to follow you.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:11 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey, ONLY proof that there is one form of marriage ordained by God, ABSOLUTELY NO proof of any other form of marriage ordained by God! Now once again what kind of cheese did you want to go along with your whine, I would suggest Swiss since it has as many holes in it as your view of the Word of God does!!!:0)

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:37 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "Actually, you're wrong again. Man considers it a benefit, much the way a man who steals $100,000 from a bank would consider it a benefit. Yet, God doesn't. Nice try and turning it around, but it doesn't work."

    God must have considered it a benefit otherwise he would have just taken the wives away saying that polygamy was an abomination. Yet, no such verse exists and God never calls polygamy a sin or an abomination.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:35 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, no whining here since God's Word is clear on what His original and only design for marriage and sexual intimacy are and neither polygamy, same-sex marriage, or sex outside of marriage are a part of those designs. So perhaps you'd like some cheese to go with your whine that says otherwise!!"

    Only whining from you. NO proof there is only one way for marriage. Even the Bible doesn't support you. Of course, you can keep pretending, you've been doing that for a long time anyway.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey, no whining here since God's Word is clear on what His original and only design for marriage and sexual intimacy are and neither polygamy, same-sex marriage, or sex outside of marriage are a part of those designs. So perhaps you'd like some cheese to go with your whine that says otherwise!!

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:47 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mickey,

    "So God must then consider multiple wives a benefit since he gave that benefit to another."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Actually, you're wrong again. Man considers it a benefit, much the way a man who steals $100,000 from a bank would consider it a benefit. Yet, God doesn't. Nice try and turning it around, but it doesn't work.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:51 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, your personal attacks just continue to emulate how weak your knowledge of God's Word really is, by the way try reading II Samuel 16 and 17 and see the rest of the story!"


    Right, everyone who disagrees with you is attacking you. Keep up whine, I guess you think it will just get better with age.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mickey, include chapter 18 as well, getting late I guess!

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