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Opinion|Wed, Apr. 08 2009 09:00 AM EDT

'Wedding' Bells Ring Off Key in Nation's Heartland

By Richard Land|Christian Post Guest Columnist

Iowa is now the poster child for why it is important to have constitutional amendments that decree that marriage is only between one man and one woman.

It has been my contention for some time that each state needs to have in place a constitutional amendment defining marriage as only between one man and one woman. Without such an amendment, a state’s activist Supreme Court can overturn a law adopted by the legislature, declaring it to be unconstitutional. That is what happened in Iowa and Massachusetts. In passing Proposition 8 in referendum last November, voters reversed a similar move by the California Supreme Court the previous June.

The April 3 decision propelled Iowa to the forefront of our nation’s same-sex “marriage” debate when the state’s highest court ruled the state’s ban on same-sex “marriage” violated the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution. Iowa joins Connecticut, Massachusetts and Vermont in permitting marriages between homosexual and lesbian couples.

Once again, it was the judiciary branch of state government rending the nation’s moral fabric, bent on rewriting our country’s social construct.

With no residency requirements, the court’s opinion means at the end of April when the order goes into effect, same-sex couples will be free to travel from other states to exchange “vows” in the Iowa Heartland.

This ruling turns Iowa into a destination for same-sex “marriages.” No doubt there are weekend travel packages already being planned. Iowa will soon be the Las Vegas of same-sex “marriage” for America. And you know those folks won’t be resettling in the Hawkeye State, but will be heading back home-perhaps to your state.

And given there is no provision for citizen-initiated constitutional referendums in Iowa, it will take at least two years for proponents of traditional marriage-if successful-to get a ban on same-sex “marriage” in the state’s constitution.

The Iowa Senate Majority Leader Michael Gronstal promised he would block any legislation codifying a ban on same-sex “marriage” in the state’s constitution, saying he doesn’t see anything wrong with a “bunch of people who merely want to profess their love for each other.”

The only way to stop another state’s judges from trumping the people’s elected representatives is to pass an amendment to that state’s constitution. Over 20 states have already done this and are at least protected from the overreach of their state’s Supreme Court.

The Iowa Supreme Court couldn’t have ruled that an amendment to the constitution is “unconstitutional.” If they had done that, then a government “of the people, by the people, for the people” would be imperiled. If the California Supreme Court does this in the case they are currently considering, then we’d have to say that our entire system of government is coming to a tragic end.

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Dr. Richard Land is president of The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, the Southern Baptist Convention's official entity assigned to address social, moral, and ethical concerns, with particular attention to their impact on American families and their faith.
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  • Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:07 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    rhi and mike22685, but once again all that could be remedied by strengthening domestic partnership laws.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:15 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Rhi, thank you so much for your understanding. You really expressed the need for gay marriage very well! It is heartbreaking to hear of stories where someone's partner, the person who has been there with them for 20+ years, was not allowed in the the hospital room at the time they were dying.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:34 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Some day we may know the factors that result in homosexuality. I really don't care. When I did a chaplaincy internship on an AIDS ward in 1987, I discovered that people are not a diagnosis or a sexual orientation. The quality of character I found in many of the gay people I met as patients and colleagues was a revelation. No effort to deny civil rights to a group will ever be successful for long in a democratic society. The worst dictatorships in the world engage in persecution of gay people. To be indentified with them in any way is a repudiation of the challenge the founders of America to recognize than all should stand equal before the law. The truth is that many gay couples live in committed relationship and have taken marriage vows without the benefit of societal recognition. They deserve the legal benefits of straight couples. As a Chaplain, I saw men in the last stages of life, unable to communicate, denied the comfort of their long time partner and friends because a relative was their "next of kin," who denied gay people access because of their high morality. How insulting. How unChristian. As more and more gay and lesbian people are known to their co-workers and co-worshipers, the need to stand in judgement subsides.

  • Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:59 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Lonestar, if Christ himself appeared to me and said I was sinning and needed to change, yes, I would. I don't believe that will ever happen; however, I do believe Christ loves us all enough that he will send road signs so obvious we can't possibly miss them to keep us on the "straight" and narrow.

  • Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike22685, the findings of the study are not in question rather the interpretation of the findings and the logical interpretation of these findings at best is to say that a person's genetic make-up may possibly lead to that person being born homosexual. So at this point based on genetic testing there is a possibility as opposed to a probability that a person is born homosexual.

  • Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Mike22685 said "I do believe that there are probably hormonal influences in the womb that determine a person's sexual orientation at some point."

    Mike, God can make right what went wrong in your Mother's womb if that is the reason you are gay. If He offered it to you, would you accept it? Or, would you rather remain gay?

  • Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:50 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Why would it have to be higher? I didn't realize that's how studies worked. Studies report what they find, and I find that to be very interesting. I have said before, I do not believe there is a gay gene necessarily. I do believe that there are probably hormonal influences in the womb that determine a person's sexual orientation at some point.

  • Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:19 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike22685, for the study to prove or support the premise that a person is born homosexual the % should have been much higher and thus the 48% negative finding shows otherwise.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer, according to you, 52% were homosexual. Hmm, funny how you posted it in the negative...

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mickey, yes, studies that supposedly people are born homosexual have been publicized and then revealed for the faulty findings they are and seldom heard about again except when cited in publications that are promoting the homosexual agenda or by some people on sites like these who have not done their homework. Plus, studies by Johns Hopkins University, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, pro-homosexual scientist Evelyn Hooker, and Masters and Johnson all deny the genetic link! As for the infamous twin study, the sample size was quite small, 48% of the indentical twins were NOT homosexual and no account was given of the shared early home life and upbringing or early enviromental factors.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:24 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, if there was valid research that proved a person is born homosexual the liberal media would have a hayday promoting that information and at this point they have not because they cannot since no such research exists!"

    It's been publicized quite a bit. You need to ignore it simply proves your agenda. But I've yet to see ONE scientific article that offers evidence that homosexuality is a choice. The only places that comes from are fundamentalists pretending to be Christian. But by all means, let's see the scientific evidence that proves your point.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:49 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mike22685, heading to lunch talk in a while!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike22685, but until that attraction leads to acts or thoughts of sexual intimacy there is no sin in that attraction regardless of what caused the attraction!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:41 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Believer, that would be like saying someone is genetically bent towards having darker skin. Here's the problem: I think you might be assuming that sexual orientation would be like addictive personalities. There is research to suggest you have a gene that makes you prone to be an alcoholic. The thing is, if you never drink, you will never be an alcoholic. If you have "the gay gene" (which I do not believe there is one) you WILL be gay, whether or not you ever have sex. As I have said, sexual orientation is more than an action. It is fundamentally an attraction. Personally, I believe it has to do with hormonal factors in the womb that determines one's sexual orientation. As for people who you claim have changed their sexual orientation...good for them, but there is such a thing as bisexuality.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:39 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mike22685, I know to many heterosexuals, guys especially who have sex purely for the sake of sex and nothing else. And in many cases they drop the person they had it with like a bad habit once they've done it.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:35 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mickey, if there was valid research that proved a person is born homosexual the liberal media would have a hayday promoting that information and at this point they have not because they cannot since no such research exists!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mike22685, plus there are many homosexuals who indeed have gone through the experiences I have shared and acknowledge they did have an impact on their sexuality. And as I've shared before at this point in time I do believe it is a matter of choice based on personality, family history, and life experiences, but one day if it is proven to have a genetic or hereditary link it will be a bent toward as opposed to an absolute. In other words each person ultimately has a choice to make even though they have a bent toward a certain sexual orientation. Plus, considering mickey is convinced because of my life experiences I am homosexual it sure should cause me to agree totally with your viewpoint and say that regardless of my life experiences I was born heterosexual and so I am. But I believe that even though I made some very bad decisions as a teen and had to experience things I wouldn't wish on anyone, God is good in that He not only saved me, but released me from many of the consequences of my past and past decisions and sins.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:33 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "mike22685, and there is absolutely no valid research to show it is not a choice! "

    Yet the majority of the scientific evidence shows that it isn't a choice and NOTHING seems to support the idea that it is a choice. So I guess you would be wrong again.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:30 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ...believer, if "straight" people have sex with each other, they're not exactly straight. There must be some kind of attraction (unless we're talking about the drunken curiosity in college.)

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:28 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mike22685, sexual acts of homosexuality do not prove one is a homosexual, so your use of those acts in the animal kingdom do not prove homosexuality is not a choice since we don't know what leads animals to engage in those practices."

    Yet same sex couples have mated for life in zoos and in the wild. But tell us where you get all your information about animals making informed decisions. Since you think they "chose" to be homosexual, I would like to see all the scientific evidence you are basing your concepts on.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:23 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mike22685, sexual acts of homosexuality do not prove one is a homosexual, so your use of those acts in the animal kingdom do not prove homosexuality is not a choice since we don't know what leads animals to engage in those practices.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:21 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mike22685, and there is absolutely no valid research to show it is not a choice!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:14 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    believer, you have no valid research to suggest it is a choice. I, on the other hand, have research that strongly suggests (I do realize it is not proof) and the life experience of myself and many, many other gays I know of. Every theory you have offered as to why we might be gay (being made fun of as youths, having poor parenting, being molested, etc.) is shot down by my experience or someone else's. Again, homosexuality is found in the animal community. I do not say this to suggest we act like animals, however, animals do not have the ability to think critically or rationally, something that would be required to change one's sexual orientation. That suggests that we do not have a choice in the matter either.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:52 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, thanks for the thumbs up to mike22685's compliment to me!!"

    Well I didn't but thanks for the recognition anyway!

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:51 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "What God has put together, let no man put assunder. "

    Let's hope that is true in California for the 18,000 same sex couples.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:50 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mickey, many in the civil rights movement feel very insulted when people try to compare the move to legalize same-sex marriage with the civil rights movement of the 60s."

    Yet Mrs. Martin Luther King, Jr. was one of the first to make the comparison. Show me how other people's involvement in the civil rights movement was greater than hers and MAYBE I'll listen to them. Until then, I'll take her word for it.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:30 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike22685, considering that one's race is not a choice and one's sexuality is there is a huge difference between these two issues, but I know you believe one's sexuality is not a choice so I can see why you would see both as identical issues.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:09 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I don't. We learn from history, and we know that separate is not equal. Also, if that is your point of view, then I'm sure you'd be opposed to the slippery slope argument saying if gays can get married than other groups will be able to (since they are different issues.)

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:06 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike22685, true, but I think each issue needs to stand on there own individual merits.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:37 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I'd agree with that, but I don't think that really gets one side or the other anywhere as there are many who feel it is a just comparison.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mike22685, I'm not denying that at all, but there are many who object to the comparison.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:41 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Believer, Coretta Scott King was actually among the first to make the comparison.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mickey, many in the civil rights movement feel very insulted when people try to compare the move to legalize same-sex marriage with the civil rights movement of the 60s.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:14 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    mickey, thanks for the thumbs up to mike22685's compliment to me!!!

  • Curt »
    Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:26 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Gay-Marriage is an oxymoron
    Has been for thousands of years and still is.
    What God has put together, let no man put assunder.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:08 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "Because Jesus says in the Bible that he was founding the United States for heterosexual white people only, as a "christian nation" should be."

    I'm sure several on this board will come up with a dozen or so Bible verses supporting that statement. LOL

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:06 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "mike22685, but based on the Word of God you will never be married in the sight of God."

    You can not speak for God as you think. What you are doing is simply lying based on your own personal issues. Many people used to say that mixed race couples would never be married in the sight of God. Like you, they too were wrong.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:03 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "promoting racial reconciliation within the Southern Baptist Convention."

    LOL I grew up in a house near the Southern Baptist Church. They were the most out spoken supports of segregation in town. Every Sunday the sign board in front of the church condemned integration, claimed mixed race marriage was an abomination and a sin. The preacher used to write scathing letters to the newspaper claiming that all those who support integration were going straight to hell (I still have some of them). Yes, I'm only too away of the Southern Baptist "Church" and what they stood for in the past.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:00 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "But the reality is there is no legitimate correlation between racial segregation and the question of same-sex marriage."

    Actually Mrs. Martin Luther King, Jr. was very adamant that there was a correlation and she spoke about it many times. When you can show me that your participation in the civil rights movement was greater than hers, I believe you, until then I'll take her word over yours.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    tip, as a matter of act I do, but as for steve the earliest steve I know about is found in the Book of Acts and he died for his faith in Christ in fact many believe he is the first martyr of the Christian faith!:0)

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:24 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    believer - so you literally believe that God made Adam out of dust and mud, then made Eve out of one of his ribs ?
    Sort of like "God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve" isn't it ?

    BTW - when did God make Steve ?

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:49 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    tip, more than likely you've never met Dr. Land, well I have and I've heard his heart and he is anything but an advocate for racial segregation and in fact he's been very active in promoting racial reconciliation within the Southern Baptist Convention. But the reality is there is no legitimate correlation between racial segregation and the question of same-sex marriage.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:00 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Poor Dr. Land - he's never gotten over those "activist judges" overruling the will of the people and allowing whites and blacks to "marry"

    Because Jesus says in the Bible that he was founding the United States for heterosexual white people only, as a "christian nation" should be.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:56 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Lonestar, sorry, but it doesn't work that way. I have come to Christ, and have a relationship with him, but praying for my sexual orientation to be changed would be like praying for a new skin color.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:43 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Mike22685, you are trying to meet a God given desire in a God forbidden way.

    Come to Christ. Admit to a Holy God that you have sinned, ask Him to forgive you, and invite Jesus Christ into your heart as Savior and Lord. If you do, from your heart, God will give you a new nature created after His own in true holiness and righteousness.

    You will become a new creation. Your desires and interest will change to reflect what God wants for you. Initially He will set you free from a number of your fleshy desires and sins. The fleshy desires that remain God will help you be delivered from as you walk in obedience to Him.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    mike22685, thanks for that word of encouragement!

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:36 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    You as well believer...I wish all on this board could approach issues as a Christian like you do.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:30 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    mike22685, needless to say you and I have been down this road on what God's Word has to say about same-sex marriage so no need to go on that trek again. But I wanted to also let you know how much I appreciate your civility, if that's a word, in a good majority of your posts and that I in no way have ever thought your were mickeyc who kind of reminds me of a teacher out of work. So take care and I sure we'll be posting each other soon on various issues.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:29 am Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    Believer, the difference with gays is that we currently have no other option. Also, based on YOUR interpretation. The Word of God says nothing on gay marriage, so you're pulling this understanding out of your best interpretation, as am I, although, those interpretation vary quite significantly. My relationship won't change, but I will have legal protections that I feel I deserve as there are no legal grounds as to why not (my relationship hurts no one, it betters both me and my partner, we're both tax paying, law abiding citizens, and there currently is no law forbidding it in our state.) Why not domestic partnerships? Because its silly to call them something they're not! If we have all the rights as marriage, but call it something else because it would bother you otherwise, then it is YOU who has the problem to get over, not us.

  • Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    mike22685, but based on the Word of God you will never be married in the sight of God. Plus, how will your relationship change if you get married? And if the research for homosexual couples is similar to that of heterosexual couples who live together before they get married there is a good chance you'll wind up getting a divorce.

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