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Blair Rejects Catholic Teaching on Homosexuality

By Anne Thomas|Christian Today Reporter

LONDON – Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has said that the Roman Catholic Church should change its position on homosexuality to better reflect today’s society.

Blair, who became a Catholic shortly after leaving office, said in an interview with the gay magazine Attitude, "Organized religions face the same dilemma as political parties when faced with changed circumstances.”

"You can either A: Hold on to your core vote, basically, you know, say 'Look let's not break out because if we break out we might lose what we've got, and at least we've got what we've got so let's keep it'. Or B: You say 'let's accept that the world is changing, and let us work out how we can lead that change and actually reach out'."

Blair also claimed that the position of the Church, which holds to traditional biblical teaching on marriage and family life, is not shared by many Catholics on the ground.

"There are many good and great things the Catholic Church does, and there are many fantastic things this Pope stands for, but I think what is interesting is that if you went into any Catholic Church, particularly a well attended one, on any Sunday here and did a poll of the congregation, you'd be surprised at how liberal-minded people were."

He added, "When people quote the passages in Leviticus condemning homosexuality, I say to them – if you read the whole of the Old Testament and took everything that was there in a literal way, as being what God and religion is about, you'd have some pretty tough policies across the whole of the piece."

Last year Pope Benedict XVI said that saving mankind from homosexual and transsexual behavior was as important as saving the rainforests. He also said that the Catholic Church needed to “protect man from the destruction of himself.”

During his time as Prime Minister, Blair found himself at odds with the Church on the Iraq war as well as on moral issues. He was criticized for introducing civil partnerships for gay people, lowering the age of consent for homosexuals to be the same as heterosexuals and refusing to allow Catholic adoption agencies an exemption to laws requiring them to allow homosexuals to adopt.

Blair was also criticized for voting in favor of abortion and Sunday trading, both of which go against Catholic teaching.

At the time of his conversion Ann Widdecombe, a Conservative MP who also converted to Catholicism said, “Well I think the crucial thing to remember is at the point you are received (into the Catholic church) you have to say individually and out loud 'I believe everything the church teaches to be revealed truth.'"

"And that means if you previously had any problems with church teaching, as Tony Blair obviously did over abortion, as he did again over Sunday trading...you would have to say you changed your mind.”

"And I think people will want to know that he did go through that process, because otherwise it will seem as if the church did make an exception for somebody just because of who he is."

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  • Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:52 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Prophet, I can't believe you said this:
    Although a lot of what the Catholic Church teaches is anti-scriptural...

    You know, there's guidelines that we're supposed to use before posting comments. I'm going to be nice in my response, but you know very little about the Church that Jesus founded or what that Church truly teaches.

    Friend, you were way out of line with this comment.

  • Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:52 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    MickeyC,
    I apologize if I said anything untoward, it was not my intention to do so. I have tried very hard to not insult anyone on this site. I am only asking questions.

  • Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:02 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Although a lot of what the Catholic Church teaches is anti-scriptural, one of those points you mentioned is actually scriptural. The Bible points out that women are not to be in spiritual leadership over men, hence women should not be pastors/priests.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    The catholic church needs to change a LOT of things--
    Subordination of women. Still, still does not allow women to be ordained.
    Birth control. The church teaches that ANY type of contraception is morally wrong. So keeping a fertility chart and having sex on "safe" days is also wrong.
    Condoms. In the 80's the pope was spreadin' the word in Africa that the use of condoms to prevent AIDS was wrong. The current pope has regressed and says that the use of condoms can increase the risk of HIV.
    Anti semitism: The pope remained silent during the Holocaust.
    Pedophilia. Instead of getting help for the priests who preyed on young children, the church simply sent them to another parish.
    Etc.
    Etc.
    Etc.
    At least the catholic church doesn't teach its members to go door to door and peddle their religion.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:55 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "Actually, He was not the first Christian. Christian comes from the Roman slang "Christ ones" used towards Christians. You will find that -ian is a more widely used version of -an which means:"

    You're saying Christ was not a follower of His own words? Interesting concept.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:54 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    "If you are curious about homosexuality
    just say out loud now Jesus I
    believe and I receive you in my
    heart please help me, lead me and guide me
    to walk, talk, and live right"


    So many gay and lesbian Christians have done just that and Jesus has led to out of the closet and into the full light of day. He has shown them to ignore the evil of men and to live their lives as God intended.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:52 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "My rant? I merely asked a question about which is more important, one's orientation or Christ. I ask this because many of the posters on this site post almost exclusively on gay issues."

    Oddly enough they all seem to be fundamentalist "Christians" which does beg the question as whether homosexuality or Christ is more important to them. Obviously there are far more important issues in the world to be concerned with then if someone does or does not get married.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:17 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Mikey C.
    My rant? I merely asked a question about which is more important, one's orientation or Christ. I ask this because many of the posters on this site post almost exclusively on gay issues.
    If this is percieved as a rant, please explain.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    If you are curious about homosexuality
    just say out loud now Jesus I
    believe and I receive you in my
    heart please help me, lead me and guide me
    to walk, talk, and live right
    I can do it go to leroyjenkins.com
    is also very helpful

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:49 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "Interesting slogan considering the first LIBERAL Christian was Christ. "

    Actually, He was not the first Christian. Christian comes from the Roman slang "Christ ones" used towards Christians. You will find that -ian is a more widely used version of -an which means:

    "Attached to personal names, it has the additional senses 'contemporary with' (Elizabethan; Jacobean) or 'proponent of' (Hegelian; Freudian) the person specified by the noun base."

    Jesus was not a Christian let alone a liberal one. He is Christ. I now see why you have such a difficult time understanding what we Christians are saying, MickeyC. Quite a lack of understanding on your part.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Yeah, it is true. That's what I said.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:38 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "Why wouldn't I keep saying that? It's true."

    Well I believe you want it to be true, anyway.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Why wouldn't I keep saying that? It's true.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:48 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "I am calm."

    Just keep saying that......

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    I am calm.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:14 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "When did I get upset?"

    Calm down, I didn't mean to upset you.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:05 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "Yea, the security guards at church had to deal with someone who thought the same thing yesterday."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Okay. Not sure why you're going off on a tangent, but I'll humor you.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:22 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "So in other words, you compare celebrating the Resurrection of Christ with the law obsessed Pharisees."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

    Nope.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:31 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    "Much like I wonder which is more important to those who spend Easter Sunday posting rants on message boards, your agenda or Christ?"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    That's the same kind of comment the Pharisees made to Jesus when He healed on the Sabbath.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:43 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    "Leave the Catholic Church"

    Most people with brains did that centuries ago. Blair left the Christian faith because his wife was RC.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:42 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    "I have often wondered which is more important to homosexuals, their orientation or Christ?"

    Much like I wonder which is more important to those who spend Easter Sunday posting rants on message boards, your agenda or Christ?

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:40 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    ""Down with Liberal Christianity!"

    Interesting slogan considering the first LIBERAL Christian was Christ.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:17 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "we can prove that(even through Scriptures)gays are nature-normal."

    I'm still waiting for the punch line.... Do provide your "proof".

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:54 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    It never fails to ammuse. when people who proclaim to belong to a faith group espouse views that contradict key teachings. liberal anglicans and other christian groups and now a pretend Catholic.
    while not catholic myself, Tony Blair ammuses me in his criticism of the Pope, as being a Catholic, the pope is the head of the church and church tradition is more powerful than any dissenting views,.
    by critisizing the Pope, Blair just shows that he is not a Catholic., thus making his comments mean even less. he shows that he doesnt beleive what he professes
    like many others Blair is a phony

    "Down with Liberal Christianity!"

  • Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Thanks for leting us know that.

  • Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:49 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    I have often wondered which is more important to homosexuals, their orientation or Christ?

  • Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:44 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "we can prove that(even through Scriptures)gays are nature-normal."

    ...this should be good....

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:04 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    "Homosexual is same as Heterosexual, it's nothing to be afraid; we can prove that(even through Scriptures)gays are nature-normal.Many people misinterpret the Sriptures then thought that gays are evil."

    Uh-HUH and gays NEVER misinterpret the Words of Scripture to find God's approval, where none exists, right??

    "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." (Romans 1:26,27)

    Doesn't sound to me like a ringing endorsement of homosexuality.
    It sounds like a God given punishment for UNBELIEF.

  • IHS »
    Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:49 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 4

    Another Wolve in Sheep's clothing. A weed within the Roses is Tony Blair.

    Leave the Catholic Church, your unbiblical views are unwelcome. Relativism is a mental desease.

  • Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:10 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    Totally agree with Blair Former Prime Minister;respect Him;from what he said we know he is good leader with understand and knowledge.Homosexual is same as Heterosexual, it's nothing to be afraid; we can prove that(even through Scriptures)gays are nature-normal.Many people misinterpret the Sriptures then thought that gays are evil.The direction of Gay Marriage-family-parenting is also include what is necessary,Human Needs,responsible union,Human Same Right, protect,safety,secure,ensure,equal,love,unity,harmony.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:34 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Am I the only one who sees the irony of the government trying to interject its belief upon religion?

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:31 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "British are so much more tender than the Yanks, who tend to have a lot of fat on them "

    That's because most Brits have to walk everywhere!!!

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:50 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 4

    Hey when it comes to homosexuality I don't understand where anyone could get out of scripture is is right. This is offensive to GOD remember the towns that burned the the ground for doing these offensive things and LOT's wife turned back and turned to a pillar of SALT as it was destroyed.

    Sounds Like God doesn't like this type of activity to me...

    However it does not mean that we don't respect each and every creation God has put on this earth, it only means we are to unite and try to bring them to the truth so that they may leave thier sin behind and be saved.

    I sin to just in a different way, we all have our weakness some just stands out more then others.

    May God give us the strength and wisdom to not offend our brothers and sisters but lead them to Jesus Christ so that they may be saved, AMEN! I don't want to see even one of my brothers or sisters PARISH.

    JOHN 6:37-38 = Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and I will not reject anyone who comes to me, because I came down from heaven not to do my own will, but the will of the one who sent me.

    So everyone has the opportunity to repent and turn to CHRIST, let us all pray that they do and that we do, so that all of us turn from our weakness and our sin and be saved.

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:29 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 4

    Completely Agree IHS, homosexuality is not ok, but we cannot hate any of our brothers and sisters, like I have said elsewhere all of us here need to round up as many sinners as we can find (yes I am a sinner at times just in case you were wondering) and get them all to a church to find GOD so that they may be saved!

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:22 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    No problem wih satire Black just some are running with the quote as if it where real etc...As for eating my relatives then you will have a much better meal as the British are so much more tender than the Yanks, who tend to have a lot of fat on them (well the ones who walk around London do)
    :-P
    Keep well
    Steve

  • Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:18 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Song

    If man and rivers are alike does that mean men will end up as ox bow lakes?

    :-P

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:08 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    (That is talking about the book of Revelation. But there is a verse in Proverbs that does talk about the danger of changing any scriptures)


    Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar (Proverbs 30:6).

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:11 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Following the path of least resistance is what makes rivers and men crooked.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:30 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    SteveH2O:
    "God needs to get with the times. Maybe all the Law and the Commandments were a good idea once, but let's face it: people change. We don't need you anymore, God. Thanks for creation and all that, but we can take care of things from here."

    Tony Blair did not say that. I wrote that. It's called satire. You see, Mr Blair suggested that the RC Church should change it's position on homosexuality, and since the RC church's position is exactly in line with Scripture, and Scripture is God's word, I thought it would be edifying to use that literary technique to illustrate the absurdity. Yes, the absurdity of a man like Mr Blair suggesting that God needs to change his position!
    You do know, Steve, that Jonathan Swift (a famous satirist) did not REALLY suggest that your ancestors should dine on mine? That it was satire?

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:14 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book, if anyone adds to them, God will add the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words in this prophetic book, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city described in this book."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    That is talking about the book of Revelation. But there is a verse in Proverbs that does talk about the danger of changing any scriptures.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:11 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    "The Catholic Position on Homosexuality"

    I agree.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    ihs, the only difference in the catholic view and most Southern Baptists would be that we would specifically say one man and one woman as opposed to men and women, but I know that's what's implied in your view.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "So be perfect, just as your heavely Father is perfect. "

    What is perfect? Perfect:

    teleios: complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.)

    "So be perfect" means to be complete in our mental and moral character as compared to God's character. So, unless you don't believe the Bible is God's word you are not "perfect"ed in God's character if you think homosexuality is OK. The greek really is clear on this.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:11 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "There you go again with your hatred... "

    Homosexuals hate God and make one that is not demanding of their sexuality. The same is true for many people. Rich people hate God who says "if you see your brother in need" and they make a God that is not demanding of their wealth. The list goes on.

    This is because they love their sin. They hate God and the Bible. They deny what the Bible clearly says in plain greek:

    Rom 1:26 Because of this did God give them up to dishonourable affections, for even their females did change the natural use into that against nature;
    Rom 1:27 and in like manner also the males having left the natural use of the female, did burn in their longing toward one another; males with males working shame, and the recompense of their error that was fit, in themselves receiving.

    "also the males having left the natural use of the female,"

    "natural" (5446) means "physical"
    "use" (5540) means "employment i.e. spec sexual intercourse"

    "affections" = desire for sexual intimacy.

    They want Christianity to change to reflect society instead of society to change to reflect Christ. This is the spirit of anti-Christ.

  • IHS »
    Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:14 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 4

    The Catholic Position on Homosexuality:

    We should love them because they are made in the image and likeness of God, but we do not condone their sinful disordered actions that are contrary to natural law and to God's divine plan. If they have same sex attraction they must remain chaste. No sexual activity is allowed outside of marriage and marriage is reserved only for men and women in a heterosexual covenant.

    Treat homosexuals with charity, but bring them to the Truth that if they persist in this behavior and do not repent then they will be lost for all eternity. Being homosexual is not wrong, but acting on your same sex attraction is. Homosexual activity is always intrinsically evil, immoral and against God and Natural Law.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:37 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Just when you start coming around to GOD's word and acting like a christian you go and become negative and say how YOU told me by your reply what was right. YOU have told me nothing, GOD has revealed this to me and I am no where near liberal I support everything in scripture. Including loving my neighbor as myself, you would not act this way to yourself.

    Pray that you may be healed in Jesus name. I will pray for you as well.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:29 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    There you go again with your hatred...

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:10 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Salt for once we agree, I am Catholic and we do baptise in the name of the Father the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT, professing the truth.

    These readings are surely presented by our GOD and I follow them. I knew there was good in you, this is what we should be saying to each other rather then condeming one another PRAISE GOD FOR ALL HIS GLORY!AMEN!

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:07 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    scripture says what it says. If it were to say different your protestant bible and my catholic bible would say it different.

    You are suppose to let your fellow brothers and sisters know when they are acting sinfully, but you are not to judge them, blaspheming their church or actions is not how Christ handled it. He was HUMBLE and COMPASSIONATE leading by example the way, you pride yourself with the hatred spread from one denomination to another unless it is your personal denomination that is being delt the hatred. Get over YOURSELF and your DENOMINATION and only submit to JESUS CHRIST OUR SAVIOUR and be humbled and then you will see, and you can help pull your fellow brothers and sisters from the fire but not by HATRED but by LOVE, with patience, persistance and gracefullness just as GOD has asked of us and as the Holy Spirit guides us as long as we DONT QUENCH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

    I pray for all of you and please pray for me that we find peace in ourselves, that we find and seek truth always from our saviour JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.

  • Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:56 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    forsaltnlight » change to words of the bible why don't you remember the scripture.

    Revelations 22:18 = I warn everyone who hears the prophetic words in this book, if anyone adds to them, God will add the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words in this prophetic book, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city described in this book.

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