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Education|Mon, Apr. 13 2009 06:41 PM EDT

Pastor Answers Atheist's Easter Challenge

By Lillian Kwon|Christian Post Reporter

A small town pastor whose seminary training comes from a Bible school that no longer exists claims to have successfully answered a nearly 20-year-old atheist challenge surrounding the resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ.

With that, he hopes that critics will, at least, stop accusing the resurrection accounts of contradiction.

"A dead man coming back to life is a grand thing to claim," writes Stephen Kingsley from Craigmont, Idaho, in The Easter Answer. "Were it possible to prove the resurrection accounts contradictory as skeptics have asserted, such a thing might give some a reason to justify their doubt. But what now?

"Like a phone that won't stop ringing, we must all answer, and will answer the question: Did Jesus literally rise from the dead?"

More specifically, Kingsley was responding to a challenge posed by Dan Barker of Freedom From Religion Foundation, to simply lay out in chronological order what exactly happened from the time of the resurrection up to the time of Jesus' ascension without omitting any details from the separate accounts recorded in the four Gospels as well from two other New Testament books.

Barker, a former preacher and Christian songwriter, presented the challenge in 1992, believing the biblical accounts were contradictory in numerous places.

"When I realized why the Challenge was being made, in an attempt to de-convert Christians or prevent the unsaved from coming to faith, it hit me kind of hard," Kingsley commented. "The Bible was given to produce faith, these guys are trying to reverse that and turn the Bible into something to do the opposite."

According to the Craigmont pastor, few have responded and none have succeeded.

Several top scholars told Kingsley they also acknowledged that there has been no plausible solution to reconciling the biblical accounts on the resurrection.

"I do know that it's next to impossible to provide the sequence of events in the post-Resurrections," said Dr. J. Lyle Story of Regent University. "There's no way that they can all be harmonized."

But Kingsley believes he has met Barker's terms and succeeded.

"I think the joy of my study is the discovery that indeed, the means exist by which the various accounts can be woven together without conflict," he commented.

Kingsley begins his timeline with "2 Marys came to see the tomb," which he records as having occurred on the eve of Easter, and then moves into chronicling the events of Easter Sunday, the days when Jesus appeared to his disciples and other people, and Jesus' ascension. The timeline ends with Jesus' appearance to Apostle Paul.

"It's only reasonable, that if each writer wrote the truth, no matter how complex their accounts appear when given a side-by-side comparison, there had to be a way to weave them together without strain," Kingsley pointed out. "It took five years for the light to come on and for the chronology of Easter to fall into place."

He reminds readers he is not a scholar and that he has answered the challenge as a fellow Christian, as "nothing more than a Bible reader and lover," he writes in his book. He also acknowledges that what he presents may not be the answer but given that the only requirement for the challenge was to assemble all the verses relative to the resurrection of Jesus and his appearances together into one consistent narrative without contradiction, he believes he has come up with a plausible answer.

"Consistency, if indeed it is granted to exist, doesn't prove the resurrection happened or that the writers were 'guided and directed by an omniscient, omnipotent deity while they were writing their gospels,' but it certainly shows that the biblical evidence God has provided us today is far more reliable than critics ... have wanted us to believe," Kingsley writes.

His solution was sent to Barker over a year ago but a reply - a rebuttal or congratulations - has not yet been received.

On the Web:

www.easteranswer.com

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  • Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:32 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Sorry Rich, you are denying the teaching of Scripture concerning peace by your stated premise: "The staring point for peace occurs when we discover inner peace, or the first peace." You can have this "inner peace" and still be lost. You can experience visions of angels (sic) and other such spiritual mystical experiences and ecstasies, and still be lost. Personally, I do not want (and neither should you) an "Islamic soul" partaking in the Lord's Supper (unless he/she converts to faith in Christ alone). You're willing to compromise and sacrifice truth for the sake of peace on earth. This is the spirit of Antichrist. I will not bow with you a Mecca.

  • Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:00 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Kingsley interpretations of finding peace have been practiced for thousands of years so I accept that these have been the basis of our faith and the way "the Church" has instructed its faithful.

    But I am also concerned out personal experience and what I have discovered does not deny Kingsley's points. The staring point for peace occurs when we discover inner peace, or the first peace.

    The link listed does not cry for peace! peace! peace! Instead it literally enables one to learn to no longer fear death. It leads to a process and path of self discovery "to experience" that your spirit energy is a separate entity from your physical self. When this realization truly begins to take hold of you, it alters everything in your life. You begin to see even your enemies differently.

    We can guote each other dogma which is fine, or we can guide each other to experience real transformation. I believe peace requires retransformation as every attempt at quoting dogma to an enemy seems never to succeed.

    Imagine a Christian soul that could sign up and take the Hajj to Mecca and an Islamic soul that willingly partakes the Eucharist. That's the starting point for peace.

  • Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Rich's link posted below will take you to yet another example of those who cry "peace, peace when there is no peace." Jesus did not come to send peace on earth, but to offer peace and goodwill to men by the offering of himself as a substitute for sin. By his death and resurrection the willing can be at peace with God, and on that basis find peace with one another.

    Conflict exists because the light of Christ has come and is shining in the darkness of this world. Conflict has its place. There are things that must be opposed even though it's unpleasant and often costly.

    Jude 1:3 says, "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was necessary for me to write unto you, and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." And make no mistake, seeking mystic experiences for the sake of a Christ-less pseudo-peace is a sure road into spiritualism and the occult. Remember Paul's warning: "Touch not the unclean thing (2 Cor. 6:17)."

  • Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    We found a dumbed-down answer to the atheist's question by accident, called "A-B-C-Revelation & Confirmation." We posted it at
    http://peaceandconflictresolution.googlepages.com/risingspreadofmysticexperience

    This isn't what we were looking for or expected to find. It is what it is. We do not claim to be able to explain it.

  • Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:47 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    fbadams, I agree with your third day explanation, but a very solid case can be made that the resurrection happened earlier on "the first day of the week" than you're thinking. Please investigate further. Begin with my article. My e-mail is on my website. CP put a link at the bottom of the article at the top. Feel free to contact me with any questions. In Christ, Stephen Kingsley

  • Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Chrysanthemum wrote: "What about the day that He rose? There is a question about that too. Many believe that he was crucified on a Friday and rose on a Sunday (which leaves Him one day short of three). Personally, I think he was really crucified on a Wednesday and rose on a Saturday.) I mostly basing this on Matt 28:1. Any thoughts? I know the most important thing is that He rose at all, but it's still good to know."

    PLEASE read my article "Answering Easter Contradiction." Just google it. I address the Wed-to-Sat theory and think it will answer your questions.

  • Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Jesus rose on the third day. And the Holy Scriptures indicate it was on the first day of the week that the women came to the empty tomb - Saturday having been the Sabbath it would have been ritually forbidden. Jesus was entombed on Friday (1st day), Saturday (2nd day), Sunday (3rd day). While the Bible is not exact on the hours I have a hunch that Jesus was dead for 40 hours having given up the ghost around 3 in the afternoon (at the ninth hour the earth shook and the veil of the temple was rent) and rising from the dead around 7 am just after daybreak. But three days did not necessarily mean 72 hours like we would count.

  • Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:55 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    What about the day that He rose? There is a question about that too. Many believe that he was crucified on a Friday and rose on a Sunday (which leaves Him one day short of three). Personally, I think he was really crucified on a Wednesday and rose on a Saturday.) I mostly basing this on Matt 28:1. Any thoughts? I know the most important thing is that He rose at all, but it's still good to know.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:42 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    JC

    "And such will be for the end of days as well. For only those that know Him intimately will be granted eternal life and the gift of seeing God's face. All others will, unfortunately, not.

    Which confirms what has been written all along."

    It does not confirm, confirmation can only occur once an event has happened, what you write about has not...yet.

    S

  • JC »
    Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    In each case of Jesus' post resurrection appearances, these were always with people who knew him, not that just knew of him or had seen him from a distance. In other words, only the people that intimately knew him, and not just heard of him, were the ones to see his return.

    And such will be for the end of days as well. For only those that know Him intimately will be granted eternal life and the gift of seeing God's face. All others will, unfortunately, not.

    Which confirms what has been written all along.

  • Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:31 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 3

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Easter? after all, it's all about the Living Dead isn't it? a Huff Po comment... "Part of the story not often talked about: It was not just Jesus who supposedly arose that day. The bible says there was an earthquake, the graves were opened; and many bodies arose. And after Jesus rose, they began to walk around, appearing to many in Jerusalem. It was like zombie day in Jerusalem! Why do they leave out that part of the story, it conjures up the best visuals!" I saw a movie idea at once Yes, Yes - I can see a movie version ---- George Romero's ..... Resurrection Day, Birth of the Zombie. Jesus was son of a space alien who crash landed, Mary couldn't tell Joe the truth - their son was always a little different. Meanwhile space alien dad communicates with home world plans rescue of himself and son, but before they could save him this illegitimate son from outer space angers the locals and get nailed for it. Thinking him dead, he gets walled up, aliens locate, and revive using a beam but there's an unintended consequence when sloppy use of beam awakens all the recent dead. Space Dad and His Son unite to put the undead back where they should be. and the fight between good and evil is born .... see a sequel too. hide

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:29 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    One caution. Kwon wrote: "Kingsley begins his timeline with "2 Marys came to see the tomb," which he records as having occurred on the eve of Easter." This is accurate, but some might misunderstand "eve of Easter" as "evening of Easter" and think my position quite goofy. To clarify, it is my position that Mt. 28:1 reveals to two Marys went "to see" (as opp. to spice as in Mk. and Lk.) the tomb before sunset on Sabbath evening. Hope that helps.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Thank you SK.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:13 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The answer to those questions is a definate no, one can only talk of possibilties. The same question could be asked as "Can a Christian prove the existence of God and that Christs did not rise from the dead", the answer is the same.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:55 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Can an athiest prove that there is not a God and that Christ did not raise from the dead?

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:16 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    You can Google "Answering Easter Contradiction" or find it on frontline-apologetics.com.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Thanks SK. thats fair enough for me.

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:12 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    You'll find the core of my strategy for free in the online article "Answering Easter Contradiction." From there, go to "Solve It Yourself" at easteranswer-dot-com. There's a free PDF chart there to download that lays out the chronology of the forty-days between Easter and the Resurrection. It may not be *everything* in the book, but with a bit of effort, you'll have most of it. Fair enough?

  • Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:54 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "So the only way to find the answer is to buy his book? :


    "Kingsley pointed out. "It took five years for the light to come on and for the chronology of Easter to fall into place."

    Study to show yourself approved unto God! You can do the same as Mr. Kingsley and I believe the Lord would honor it.

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:59 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    So the only way to find the answer is to buy his book?

  • Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:43 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    Christian Post: thank you for the article! Reader, if you're at all interested, please Google and read my article "Answering Easter Contradiction." It has appeared on several apologetic websites and is a good primer to help you begin investigating my claim. Please do. This is crucial. Stephen Kingsley

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