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Society|Mon, May. 04 2009 05:29 PM EDT

Torture Survey Reveals Gap Between NAE, U.S. Evangelicals

By Eric Young|Christian Post Reporter

Though the organization claiming to represent millions of evangelicals in the United States has publicly stood against the use of torture for any reason, more than three in five self-proclaimed evangelicals say they believe torture can “sometimes” or “often” be justified, according to a recent survey analysis.

Meanwhile, other groups – Catholics, mainline Protestants, and those not affiliated with the Church – are more evenly divided among those who believe torture is “sometimes,” “rarely,” or “never” justified, reported the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life last week.

Those who feel torture is “often” justified are less than one in five across all four groups.

The results might come as a surprise to the National Association of Evangelicals, which less than two years ago issued a 20-page statement regarding the issue of torture.

In their “Evangelical Declaration Against Torture,” the organization renounced “the use of torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment by any branch of our government (or any other government)-even in the current circumstance of a war between the United States and various radical terrorist groups.”

“When torture is employed by a state, that act communicates to the world and to one’s own people that human lives are not sacred, that they are not reflections of the Creator, that they are expendable, exploitable, and disposable, and that their intrinsic value can be overridden by utilitarian arguments that trump that value,” the NAE stated. “These are claims that no one who confesses Christ as Lord can accept.”

Notably, however, the more frequently a person attended religious services, the more likely they were found to believe that torture can “sometimes” be justified and less likely to believe it can “rarely” be justified, according to the Pew Forum.

The proportion of those who believe torture can “often” or “never” be justified, meanwhile, was relatively the same regardless of the frequency of their church attendance.

The Pew Forum’s analysis, released this past Wednesday, was based on a survey last month by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press. Results for the survey, in turn, were based on telephone interviews conducted under the direction of Princeton Survey Research Associates among a nationwide sample of 1,507 adults, 18 years of age or older, from April 14 to 21.

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  • Thu May 07, 2009 8:37 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    As a God-fearing, church-going Christian, this really embarasses me. I can think of another Middle Eastern guy that was tortured and then put to death by the government almost 2,000 years ago. Maybe when we think of condoning torture we should think of Him.

  • Wed May 06, 2009 8:57 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    There is a huge difference between a position paper and a principled stand that results in multiple sermons and fund raising and activism.

    The churches may quietly say on occasion that they oppose torture, or war, or capital punishment - but they regale their parishioners with fire and brimstone jihads against gays and abortion.

    Of course the followers think that being "Christian" means being against gays and abortion - what else could it mean ?

  • Tue May 05, 2009 5:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Cheisa,
    May his peace be with you.

  • Tue May 05, 2009 5:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    2cents,
    Hi I am sorry if you had the impression I was implying you supported torture. I did not read your post that way. I in fact agreed with you that we have a duty to act when we see others being abused. So when the leaders of our country act to do so whether it is in the sponsoring of abortion or the torture of prisoners or the killing of innocents through collateral damage when attacking a country in a preemptive war then as Christians we are called to act in defense of those. In doing so though we are not called to commit violence ourselves.
    Yes I did implicitly commend President Obama on his stand against torture. This does not mean I approve of all his acts. For example I disagree with his position on abortion, yet at the same time I fully support and commend his support for steps to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place.
    I must admit one of my failings is that I am provoked by hypocrisy. Especially when that hypocrisy attempts to take what I hold sacred (the teachings of Christ) and twist them to serve the purposes of revenge, hatred, prejudice, and oppression. Sometimes this causes me to be less charitable to those who seek to justify their evil in the name of Jesus Christ.

  • Tue May 05, 2009 12:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    2centsworth - I am glad that you are not defending torture and American foreign policy.

    Jesus believed in loving your enemies even if they wanted to hurt you or the people you love. Jesus's teachings are radically opposed to torture, and radically supportive of all human beings being blessed and saved through him.

    It is horrible that 60% of Evangelical Christians answered the survey the way that they did. They are not thinking in the same way that Jesus does.

  • Tue May 05, 2009 11:45 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Viking - I am not defending torture, or America's foreign policy. I was just pointing out that the scriptures you used should be applied to our personal Christian walk and lives and dealings, not to the governing of a nation.
    Please don't think that because Obama has come out against torture that he is a champion of human rights... millions of unborn babies would say otherwise, if they had the chance.

  • Tue May 05, 2009 8:54 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    There is no moral justification for torture and as Christians we should understand that. It is contrary to Gospels' lessons and debases us as a nation. Part of America's appeal, even to our enemies, has been that we usually occupy the moral high ground. That's what has made us a beacon for the world when it's coupled with our concept of personal freedom.

    When we adopt the tactics of the totalitarian nations that we've condemned, we lose that moral high ground and become no different than them. 9/11 was a horrible tragedy, but if it results in the abandonment of our national values, that is the ture tragedy. We have to remain true to ourselves, our American ethics and ideals regardless of the circumstances. Christ didn't say, "do unto others...unless....except." It is an unqualified commandment.

  • Tue May 05, 2009 6:33 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    2cents,
    Hi, In my opinion you are correct in saying we would carry more guilt if when seeing others in danger or at harm or in poverty or in prison or hungry etc. we do nothing. Both the direct teaching of Christ "what you do to the least of these" and the parables (the good samaritan) make this clear. But giving of oneself, risking ones own safety, speaking up for the oppressed etc. is entirely different from committing acts of violence.
    The teachings of Christ can never be properly used to justify violence against others no matter what the provocation. This is one of the hard lessons of Christ's ministry. I do not condemn those who use force to defend themselves or their loved ones against an agressor. I point out though it is contrary to the teachings of Christ. When individuals, groups or countries do go beyond defense to wage preemptive, or retaliatory attacks, wars, etc. this I do condemn. On the individual scale this includes torture on the large scale it includes attacking entire countries to retaliate and excercise revenge for the acts of a small group of fanatics.

  • Tue May 05, 2009 2:18 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Viking - I'm looking at these scriptures and wondering how they would sound if we exchanged the words "you/yours" for "another/another's." "Don't resist the man who wants to harm another. If a man hits another's right cheek, turn the left one to him as well." That sounds insane! After all, Christ asks us to lay down our own lives, turn our own cheeks, expose our own selves to danger. He does not ask us to fail to protect our neighbor, brother, child or countryman through some misguided dedication to an abstract ideal. Doing so would be contributing to a greater harm, and in the end, I think, would carry more guilt. Certainly we must be circumspect in deciding how far we will go to protect those we are responsible to, but we must also recognize that the duty we have to our fellow citizen may take us beyond our ideological "comfort zone."

  • Mon May 04, 2009 6:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    It is good to be reminded that the NAE holds the same position on torture and the former administrations use of it as does President Obama.

    Matt
    5:38-39 - "You have heard that it used to be said 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth', but I tell you, don't resist the man who wants to harm you. If a man hits your right cheek, turn the other one to him as well.

    5:40-42 - "If a man wants to sue you for your coat, let him have it and your overcoat as well. If anybody forces you to go a mile with him, do more - go two miles with him. Give to the man who asks anything from you, and don't turn away from the man who wants to borrow."

    5:43-45 - "You have heard that it used to be said, 'You shall love your neighbour', and 'hate your enemy', but I tell you, Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Heavenly Father. For he makes the sun rise upon evil men as well as good, and he sends his rain upon honest and dishonest men alike.

    5:46-48 - For if you love only those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even tax-collectors do that! And if you exchange greetings only with your own circle, are you doing anything exceptional? Even the pagans do that much. No, you are to be perfect, like your Heavenly Father.

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