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Rick Warren Stresses Need for Christians to Build Bridges

By Eric Young|Christian Post Reporter

“For many unbelievers, the barrier to salvation is not the credibility of Jesus but our own lack of credibility and love for them,” Warren stated.

The megachurch pastor highlighted the evangelism strategy of the apostle Paul, who said “I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some.”

“[T]his is the foundation text of our purpose-driven evangelism,” Warren stated, referring to 1 Corinthians 9:19-23, “and as a result, we have baptized over 20,000 adult believers in the past ten years.”

He added, “One reason so many churches are stagnant is that their evangelism strategy is either unbiblical, unworkable or both. They believe Jesus' message but they ignore the Jesus model of ministry and mission!”

Warren concluded by emphasizing the need to build bridges to influencers in secular culture including those in academics, business, military, sports, health care, media, prisons, entertainment, other faiths, and government.

“If we are to experience a spiritual revival in our culture and if we want to fulfill Jesus' Great Commission in the world, we must build bridges to all of these, and more,” Warren stated.

“We build bridges of love - from our hearts to hearts of even those who hate us - so that Jesus can walk across,” he concluded. “You cannot win your enemies to Christ. You can only win your friends.”

On Saturday, Warren told a crowd of some 8,000 Muslim Americans that he was not interested in interfaith dialogue but in interfaith projects.

“Talk is very cheap. You can talk and talk and talk and never get anything done. Love is something you do,” Warren maintained. “It is something we do together.”

While recognizing his religious differences with the Muslim crowd, the Southern California preacher called on the members of the two largest faith communities in the world to not only figure out how to live in peace and harmony with each other, but also to find a way to work together for the greater good without compromising each group’s convictions.

He also touched on the controversy surrounding his appearance, saying that those who walk down the middle of the road get hit in two directions.

“Actually, it is easier to be an extremist of any kind because then you only have one group of people mad at you," Warren added.

Warren, the founding pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., was the only Christian invited to speak at Saturday’s evening main session, which organizers described as the “cornerstone” of the convention. Other Christian leaders were invited to speak at the smaller sessions during the July 3-6 event.

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  • Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:25 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Interfaith Cooperation For Peace never works every time it's tried. Until we are mentally prepared as Christians to sign up, make and participate in the Hajj to Mecca, and the Muslim is mentally prepared to openly accept the Eucharist, nobody is ever willing to compromise on anything, ever, between the faiths. This requires moving to the edge of our comfort zones (and probably beyond).

    Oglala holy man, Black Elk, amazingly may have actually found a starting point for Interfaith Peace when he said:

    "The First Peace, which is the most important, is that which comes within the souls of men when they realize their relationship, their oneness, with the universe and all its powers, and when they realize that at the center of the universe dwells Wakan-Tanka, and that this center is really everywhere, it is within each of us."

    We in the mainstream Christian experience normally have no way of relating to Black Elk's true message. It seems to suggest that we first focus inward in fearlessness, humility, love, and for a glimpse of a truth, mostly not known to western religions.

  • Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:16 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    One highly respected Muslim intellectual, Mohammed Arkoun, seems to agree with Rick Warren. Arkoun an 80 year hold Algerian, who has taught at the Sorbonne, at Princeton, and at other famous universities in Europe and America. Today, he is the research director at the Institute of Ismaili Studies in London, founded by Aga Khan. Arkoun criticized Muslims for not looking back to pre-Mohammed era enlightened loving attitudes, a time, he says, the new generation of Muslims need to go back and study.

    Interviewed by John Allen, the Vatican analyst for the "National Catholic Reporter," during a conference in Lugano, Switzerland, Arkoun took his cue from the lecture in Regensburg and indicted : "Pope Benedict has said that an intimate relationship between reason and faith does not exist in Islamic elaboration and expressions. This statement, historically speaking, is not true. If we consider the period from the 8th century to the 13th century, it is simply not true. But after the death of the philosopher Averroes in 1198, philosophy disappeared in Islamic thought. To that extent the pope was right [...]. The fact is today, when one speaks with Muslims, they (Muslims) don't have any idea about this history."

    Instead of all these so-called interreligious dialogues that have been going on since the Second Vatican Council. I've participated in so many of them, and I can tell you that they're absolutely nothing. It's gossip. There's no intellectual input in it. There is no respect for scholarship in it. A huge scholarship has already been produced devoted to the question of faith and reason. All this is put aside and we ignore it. We just congratulate one another, saying: 'I respect your faith, and you respect mine.' This is nonsense." And to the question of whether the young Muslim generations have a real thirst for a new way of expressing their faith, different from that of the "ulema on the television, " Arkoun responds: "Of course. When [in Egypt] I give a lecture, the turnout is enormous. The interest of people is very strong. Also the older generations are happy, they feel they can breathe. People applauded when I said after this affair with the pope [Pope Benedict's 2006 lecture at the University of Regensburg] that Muslims should not go to the street demonstrating against him, but they should run to the libraries. They should know what has happened to Islamic thought after the 13th century.â

  • Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:21 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    If Pastor Warren wants to show the world he is "Christ-like" he should follow in Jesus' precise footsteps. Jesus didn't want people to make a king out of him; he went preaching, door to door, and he instructed his disciples to go, in pairs and preach to people. Rick Warren may think the message is more effective this way, but it's not. I sincerely doubt he is changing the Muslim mind by going about things this way. The Bible says take up the mantle of Jesus, and go preach, because it is a direct command from Jesus (Matt 24:14 and 28: 19, 20). If people don't listen; that's fine- you did your job and you continue to do your job by preaching. Let God take care of the rest. "I planted, Apollo watered, but God kept making it grow"

  • Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:33 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Warren took the tack he did because he didn't want to be beheaded (just yet?). And a jihadist-suicide-bomber attacking Saddle Back wouldn't be all that good for book sales either.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:15 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel Paul

    According to this article, Pastor Warren kept silence with his own congregation before finally explaining his motives.

    That sounds like a local flock that is not in complete unity behind their leader.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:50 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "It's fine to want to be "global", but let's take care of the "local" first."

    That's what the Saddleback model does by design. This is why they grow so fast. It's a functioning church that starts at home and works its way out.

  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Perhaps the bridge that needs to be rebuilt is between our church leaders and the flock.

    It's fine to want to be "global", but let's take care of the "local" first.

  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:54 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The question should be, do we need to listen to Rick Warren or not.

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  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Amen DP.

    "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son". 2 Jn.1:9

    What is the doctrine of Christ? It is the doctrine which Christ taught or guided the Apostles to teach. If Christ or the Apostles did not teach it then it cannot be the doctrine of Christ.

    If the doctrine of Christ is mistranslated to mean the doctrine ABOUT Christ then the false teachers are at liberty to dismiss most of the Bible and put themselves in the role of revealing NEW DOCTRINE to "better fit our changed culture." That is why the claim to PREACH only a crucified Christ and mistranslate Paul who said that they have to KNOW only a crucified suffering servant or they will make the Word of God worthless. These you have with you always.

  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:44 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    " I find it fair to provide this link for others to check and see if what John Clavin taught about God's doctrine on election is from GOD or from the devil."

    Absolutely! It has been my experience that doctrines are man's attempt to put God's mysteries into a common frame of reference that man can understand. In short, doctrines are man's attempt to 'dumb down' the mysteries of God to our level of understanding. Although doctrines have their uses ... they are not Scripture.

    The Greek and Hebrew are quite clear on everything. It is our lack of ability to understand how things work outside of our tiny understanding where the problem is.

    The Pharisees had their 'doctrine' by which they judged others and even each other. It was those doctrines which Jesus laid waste to during many a conversation with them. The Bible says to make disciples of ALL nations. This includes the Muslims.

  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:48 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    DP, I looked under the book title and it let me know where I could get a copy but the rest of sites were general sites about calvinism.

  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:02 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out (John 6:37).

    "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me ..." is the truth of sovereign election. The Shepherd will seek, find, and save each one of them. After all, His reputation as a Shepherd is at stake as well as the Father's purpose and glory.

    "... and him that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out," is the message to a world of lost sinners. It matters not who you are, what you are, or what you have done come to Christ and you will be received.

    Jhn 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day." Salvation is the work of GOD!

  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:54 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Our Lord Jesus taught the doctrine of election.

    We will confine our references to the Gospel of John since that book is known as the "whosoever" gospel. Some verses from John are often used to refute election. Actually, no book in the whole Scripture is more clear on both absolute predestination and sovereign election.
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    "I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd "(John 10:14-16).
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    These words cannot be understood without accepting the truth of election. Our Lord here speaks of certain people who belonged to Him even though at that very moment they were lost - "Other sheep I have."

    Notice the following things clearly taught in this text:
    (1) Christ calls some people "His sheep" long before he saved them. They belong to him at that very moment even though they are lost.
    (2) He declares that he "must, and surely will, find and bring them safely into the one true fold." Not a single sheep will be left not found.
    (3) Our Lord is positive that every one of those sheep "will hear His voice" and come to Him.

    That is sovereign grace choosing and bringing particular individuals to faith in Christ.
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    John 17:2: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

    John 17:6: I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

    John 17:9: I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

    John 17:11: And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

    John 17:12: While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept them . . .
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    John 17:2,6,9,11,12,24-- Lord's High Priestly prayer--He refers to a group of people who have been "given to Him" by the Father. Christ specifically says in verse nine that He does not pray for the world, but for the elect who have been chosen out of the world and given to Him as His sheep. Can anyone believe that Christ would die for an individual and then not pray for that individual?

  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:52 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Firstly let me say the purpose driven life left me cold.
    so I am not exactly a fan of Pastor Warren.

    While I agree that we need to go to the lost what is the point if we do notpresent them with the unique claims of Christ when we get there?
    He also seems to fail to understand that every time a high level christian such as himself goes to these type of events it reinforces the Muslim perception of dominance. At its heart Islam care nothing for love, peace and working with Christians. It has only one internal logic..domination!
    The only interest Islam, in all but the small liberal schools (despised by all main Islamic streams and tolerated only because it gives them good PR in the West), has in building bridges is to drive the tank of Islamic conversion across.
    I am always happy to talk with Muslims but on the basis that I will present them with the unique and EXCLUSIVE claims of Jesus Christ. Anything else is a wast of time and "another gospel".

  • Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:57 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    DP,

    I think one has to purchase John Boyd's book . I can't find any available article of his to read on the web.

    Anyway, I find it fair to provide this link for others to check and see if what John Clavin taught about God's doctrine on election is from GOD or from the devil.

    The Doctrine of Election
    John Calvin
    http://www.the-highway.com/Doctrine_of_Election.html
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    John Calvin's Doctrine of Election
    by Rev. Bryn MacPhail
    http://www.reformedtheology.ca/calvin.html

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I went looking for John H. Boyd online. I'm having difficulty finding the books you listed. The only reference I have to John H. Boyd is a pastor of a church that was born in VA.

    Any help here?

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    " the pretender savior of only the ELECT and NOT the whole world."

    Then your understanding of Calvanism is somewhat lacking (as is many Calvanists). Allow me....

    The problem many on both sides of the predestined issue have is a lack of understanding of the greek.

    The word "elect" is eklektos which means:

    1) picked out, chosen
    a) chosen by God,
    1) to obtain salvation through Christ
    a) Christians are called "chosen or elect" of God
    2) the Messiah in called "elect", as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
    3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians

    The word predestined is prooriz which means:

    1) to predetermine, decide beforehand
    2) in the NT of God decreeing from eternity
    3) to foreordain, appoint beforehand

    The word used in the NT usage indicates the decision is being made outside of linear time. Quite frankly, God making his "predetermined" choice and the judgement seat at the end of all this are the same choice. It is a choice made from eternity and not within linear time.

    If you are well read then you are familiar with Genesis in Space and Time" by Francis Scheafer. Beginnings and ends do not apply in eternity. They are created things. The problem is with our limited ability to understand. Quite frankly, many look down on evolutionists because they cannot see beyond their understanding of science. Many also look down on Calvanism as they cannot see past their own level of understanding.

    No one gets saved without his choice. Still, He forces Himself on no one and saves all who call upon the name of the Lord. It is only contrary where there is no understanding.

    Hope this helps.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:58 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    DRJ,

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    TO whom did Jesus Christ lay down His life for according to these verses?

    Jhn 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

    Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
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    I would love to hear from you about what you think Jesus meant when He said He lay down His life for His sheep.

    Thank you.

  • DRJ »
    Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    If anyone else is interested in how to tell when a person who claims to be a Christian is not a Christian, check out "All Things New" by John H. Boyd

  • DRJ »
    Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:23 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Daniel-Paul, You have confirmed the root of your missunderstanding of the Scriptures by the fact that you praised the teachings of Tozer, a Calvinist of the first order.
    The Gospel that you have adopted is NOT the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It is, rather, the social gospel of jesus, the pretender savior of only the ELECT and NOT the whole world. Calvin's god is Satan. For more information check out "Christianity Versus the God of Calvin: Exposing a False God" by John H. Boyd.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:44 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    "Stop quoting long lines of scripture-it is offensive and it does not impress anybody."

    I disagree with that Jehovahnissi, I've learned a lot from reading things you post, Thank you!

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:32 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "The three of you should repent and start spreading God's word like Dr. Warren."

    You mean some watered down "purpose driven life" nonsense? This guy spreads the Works message, not the message of the cross.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:23 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Should any of you wish to hear what a Saddleback model church teaches you can go to www.brookwoodchurch.org and listen to our most recent sermon series called "A Life Worth Watching".

    It is about making your life, as a Christian, one that reflects the truth of Christ in your life. This past Sunday's was on the 5 purposes and what it means to live them.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:21 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "You quoted this Scripture in the same manner that Satan tried to use Scripture against Jesus in the wilderness. Whereas, the Word is always true, your application of it is false. Mr. Warren is neither gathering WITH HIM (Jesus) or FOR HIM."

    Mar 9:38-40 ¶ And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
    But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
    For he that is not against us is on our part.


    Beware you do not blaspheme the Spirit Holy, sir. You judge from a far like a pharisee. Have you ever been in a Saddleback model church? I was raised in the ministry (Christian and Missionary Alliance). You may have heard of one of the CMA ministry folk by the name of AW Tozer.

    I have been active in the ministry since I was in middle school. My family has served on the mission field in Asia and at Bible colleges here in North America. I have worked in Christian Radio for over a dozen years before God moved me to work in another part of the state. By your logic there should be no missionaries as they are ALL sent to people like Muslims.

    Luk 18:10-14 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
    The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men [are], extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
    I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
    And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as [his] eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
    I tell you, this man went down to his house justified [rather] than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


    In short, the scripture was not misquoted. It was accurate. Beware the leaven of the Pharisees.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:01 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Don't give holy things to depraved men or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you."

    So, why did Jesus come to earth? Are we all not totally depraved men without Him?

    Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

    I'm SO glad to see that so many of you are far more righteous than those Muslim sinners. After all, those Muslims must be worse than a "chief of sinners". So, did Paul lie then when he said he was the worst of sinners yet Jesus died for him?

  • DRJ »
    Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:42 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    rj78, You wrote: "Christ said whoever does not gather with Him scatters. So stop scattering."

    You quoted this Scripture in the same manner that Satan tried to use Scripture against Jesus in the wilderness. Whereas, the Word is always true, your application of it is false. Mr. Warren is neither gathering WITH HIM (Jesus) or FOR HIM.
    In order to be confirmed as gathering WITH HIM Mr. Warren would have necessarily shared the Gospel followed by an invitation for those present to profess their faith in Jesus as God for the salvation of their souls.
    Therefore, since he was not gathering WITH HIM, Mr. Warren was SCATTERING.
    Unfortunately for Christendom in general, such WORKS leave the lost people of the world to believe whatever they want to believe about Jesus and His Church rather than the truth of the exclusivity of Jesus as the ONLY WAY TO GOD. That is scattering!

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:38 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    JehovahNissi-

    Dr. Warren did not imply a salvation by works by any means. McConkey was wrong. He is iiving out the Gospel.

    Stop quoting long lines of scripture-it is offensive and it does not impress anybody.

    The three of you should repent and start spreading God's word like Dr. Warren.
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    Quoting scriptures is offensive and doesn't impress?
    Rj, so where do you base your judgements?

  • rj78 »
    Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:21 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Burwell-

    Stop accusing Dr. Warren of heresy. Read his books and see were he stands before you spread falsehood.

    Christ said whoever does not gather with Him scatters. So stop scattering.

    JC-

    Dr. Warren called Jesus by several names at the inaugaration. He referred to the Jesus of the New Testament each time.

    Don't call me beloved. I don't know you.

    JehovahNissi-

    Dr. Warren did not imply a salvation by works by any means. McConkey was wrong. He is iiving out the Gospel.

    Stop quoting long lines of scripture-it is offensive and it does not impress anybody.

    The three of you should repent and start spreading God's word like Dr. Warren.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:59 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Let's face it, Warren spoke to a real tough audience this time. For a Christian to instruct this group would be difficult, but how much do we place in the man (Warren) and not the message (Gospel)?
    These days we are so hung up on the "community." An address to the Islamic community will accomplish nothing apart from God. A Pentecost-style conversion of 5000 would have been nice, maybe even reported on by the mainstream media. But shelf the "community."
    Now, however, there is the matter of the Islamic "individual." If Warren could have accomplished the rethinking of one hard-liner (though we know this is truly the work of the Holy Spirit)... I know of a few Islamic converts. If getting them all is unreasonable, a few will do.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:10 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "Don't give holy things to depraved men or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you."

    "You will know a tree by the fruit it bears"

    God is a jealous God and you don't put nothing before him fellowship, spiritual leaders, or idols, nothing. Don't compromise your salvation to be in good standing with anyone God mercy and grace is all we need.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:58 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:50 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    "There is none good, to be sure; we all need salvation, but Jesus did not associate with pagan idolaters;"

    So, the accounts about the woman at the well are not true? It was my understanding the people of Samaria were considered pagan idolaters by the Jews.

    Then there is the Apostle Paul. Do tear out all of what he wrote as he associated with pagan idolaters:

    Act 17:16 ¶ Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry.


    Paul stayed! The heathen!!! Oh my. How dare he stay and associate with them!


    Act 17:22-23 ¶ Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, [Ye] men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
    For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.


    We can't have men like Rick Warren actually following the EXAMPLE of Jesus and Paul now can we....

    I have found in my near 40 years of being a Christian and having been raised in and having worked in the ministry...that there is something far worse than pagan idolitry. That would be Christian idolitry where we worship our own reputation instead of humble ourselves to understand that except for the GRACE OF GOD ALONE are just as horrible as those very pagan idolitors.

  • Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:31 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    GOd bless you, brother :O)

    Saw your bio at:

    http://www.worldviewtimes.com/bio.php/authorid-90

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:04 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Warren fails to grasp the concept of the exclusivism Jesus mandated. Jesus did not die to save unrepentant sinners, no one will be saved by some "wider mercy" without knowing it. Unless a man is born again he will not avoid Hell.
    There is none good, to be sure; we all need salvation, but Jesus did not associate with pagan idolaters; He allowed anyone to sssociate with HIM they came on HIS terms TO Jesus.
    Wake up warren before you too perish.
    Patrick J Burwell, OnlyJesusSaves.com

  • DRJ »
    Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:28 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    YES!!! We do need to build bridges, rather we need to introduce to all people (regardless of race or creed) the ONE who has become the BRIDGE between man and his Creator. JESUS IS THE BRIDGE...THE ONLY BRIDGE between lost humanity and the Hope of God's Salvation. God, Himself, has provided the means whereby mankind can enjoy a restored relationship with Him. He sent Jesus to redeem mankind from their sins, thus providing a WAY for man to once again commune with God...and for all eternity be heirs to His kingdom. "If any man preach another Gospel let him be accursed."

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:49 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    I don't understand why we can't understand this simple command. "LOVE THY NEIGHBOR" Who is my neighbor, EVERYONE is my neighbor. It's about LOVE not LAW

  • JC »
    Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:03 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    To RJ78:

    You said: "And, Dr. Warren stood up for Christ at the inauguration."

    Beloved, no he did not. If you remember his speech, he invoked Isa, as well as others, and equated them with Jesus. He compromised.

    Isa is the name that Islam gave Jesus, but that Jesus is not the Jesus we know. Islam claims that Isa did not die on the cross as "we supposed", but was replaced by Judah instead. The text goes further in saying that even his mother (Mary) did not know. Later in the Quran, it says that Isa will appear and destroy all the crosses and all those that are not Islam. The Quran further says that Isa will give way to Mohammad on the last day, so that Mohammad will raise above Isa.

    One cannot mix oil and water together and expect the two to become cohesive, because they will not, they will always repel each other.

    So beloved, the only question that remains is, why should we listen to someone who equates a false version of Jesus to Jesus Himself, and what validity does the Father give one that does?

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:52 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    According to McConkey, Warren's "silence on the exclusive claims of Christ" this past Saturday "led his Muslim audience into believing that works will save a person."
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    works=salvation is a false Gospel.

    When God separates people to do His work His grace and power goes with them, accomplishing the purpose and Work of GOd, which is salvation of those ordained to life!

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    "But before any of this happens, they'll arrest you, hunt you down, and drag you to court and jail. It will go from bad to worse, dog-eat-dog, everyone at your throat because you carry My Name. You'll end up on the witness stand, called to testify. Make up your mind right now not to worry about it. I'll give you the words and wisdom that will reduce all your accusers to stammers and stutters." Luke 21:12-15

    19 But when they deliver you up, be not anxious how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that hour what ye shall speak.
    20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father that speaketh in you. -- Mat 10:19-20


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  • rj78 »
    Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:12 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Dr. Warren is simply acting on God's word: witnessing without words (James 2: 14-18) and witnessing through good works (Matt. 5:16, Gal. 6:10).

    Remember, Christ died for Muslims, too (John 3:16). Dr. Warren's actions do not make him an inclusivist.

    And, Dr. Warren stood up for Christ at the inauguration.

    So-leave him alone!

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:45 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    â

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    believer,

    Amen to that; well said!

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:00 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 0

    The problem is not that well meaning Christians don't understand how much Jesus loves the lost the problem is we don't understand how telling another religious group they should hold on to their convictions when those convictions contradict, violate, and/or supersede God's Word.

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:39 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    I agree with you FUllgospel, :O)
    ----------------------------------------------------------------


    "Separate unto Me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them" (Acts 13:2b).

    There is a pressing need in the Body of Christ to distinguish and discern the difference between the Lord of the Work and the work of the Lord. How easy it is to confuse these two things and treat them as one and the same. Yet the difference before God is quite vast.

    It is Christ who builds His church. This is His work, not someone's. He reserves the right to send someone forth or to keep one at the shelf. We are governed by the Lord. The "work of the Lord" tends to take on a life of its own if we are not careful. We begin in the Spirit but then we use fleshly means to perpetuate the ministry.

    The thought and the intention may be good, but before we realize it, the work of the Lord becomes preeminent over the Lord of the Work. In fact, the minister, the pastor, the teacher, the apostle, or the prophet assumes the position of the Lord of the Work. How quickly the flesh comes in!

    In the Book of Acts no one initiates anything. They are wholly governed by the Holy Spirit. He sets people apart, He sends them forth, He tells them where to go - forbidding them from going to certain places, only to send them later, when the time is right. We do not find apostles or prophets or pastors "working their gift" and going about willy-nilly, just doing whatever they feel like doing.

    What is my point? THis ministry to the Muslims is so impossible to perform that apart from the miraculous, divine intervention of GOd it will be absolutely nothing.
    Only if we rely upon Him, the LORD of the work, then it is a dead thing.


    :O)

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:16 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 0

    This is what gives me hope: there will be some who, after meeting Rick Warren, have a different impression of Christians. Maybe some will buy a Bible and the Holy Spirit will do the rest, to God be the glory. I say we all pray for Rick and his efforts instead of slamming him. God is ultimately driving the bus, not us.

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:14 am Agree: 6   Disagree: 1

    Mark 16:15-16 And he said to them, "Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.
    Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned."

    2 Corinthians 6:14-15 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?
    What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever?

  • Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:12 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Wow! White shirt, tie and sports coat? Whatever happened to the luau shirts?

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