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World's Oldest Bible Published Online

By Jenna Lyle|Christian Today Reporter

More than 800 pages and fragments of the 4th-century Codex Sinaiticus, the world's oldest Christian Bible, have been pieced together digitally from around the world by institutions in the United Kingdom, Germany, Egypt and Russia.

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    This undated picture made available by the British Library shows a reader examining a page from the earliest surviving Christian Bible. The British Library says the surviving pages of the world's oldest Bible have been reunited - digitally. The library says the early Christian work known as the Codex Sinaiticus had been housed in four separate locations across the world for more than 150 years. It became available Monday for perusal on the Web so scholars and others can get a closer look.

The original manuscript was written in Greek by several scribes on parchment leaves. Its text was revised and corrected in the centuries that followed.

The pages of the Codex Sinaiticus have been kept in separate locations for more than 150 years. Their digitization is the culmination of four years of collaboration between the institutions that hold different parts of the original manuscript – the British Library, Leipzig University Library, the Monastery of St. Catherine on Mount Sinai in Egypt, and the National Library of Russia in St. Petersburg.

Only parts of the Old Testament and the Apocrypha are missing.

“The Codex Sinaiticus is one of the world's greatest written treasures,” said Dr. Scot McKendrick, head of Western Manuscripts at the British Library. “This 1600-year-old manuscript offers a window into the development of early Christianity and first-hand evidence of how the text of the Bible was transmitted from generation to generation"

“The project has uncovered evidence that a fourth scribe – along with the three already recognized – worked on the text," he noted. “The availability of the virtual manuscript for study by scholars around the world creates opportunities for collaborative research that would not have been possible just a few years ago.”

Scholars and other visitors to the manuscript’s website (www.codexsinaiticus.org) will be able to explore high resolution digital images of all the extant pages of the Codex Sinaiticus, which have been transcribed and cross-referenced.

The original Codex Sinaiticus was more than 1,460 pages long, with each page measuring about 16 inches by 14 inches.

McKendrick commented, “The Codex Sinaiticus is also a landmark in the history of the book, as it is arguably the oldest large bound book to have survived.

“For one volume to contain all the Christian scriptures book manufacture had to make a great technological leap forward – an advance comparable to the introduction of movable type or the availability of word processing," he added.

“Critically, it marks the definite triumph of bound codices over scrolls – a key watershed in how the Christian Bible was regarded as a sacred text.”

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  • Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:36 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer, I like the way that is put. Defiantly something for me to chew on as well. I think the Divine wants us to be the best we can, make the best choices we can, become as like him as possible. One cannot have a beautiful piece of pottery without a kiln fire to put it in. :) right? Btw, thanks as always for your discussions. I always learn something new. :)

  • Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:22 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    viking, thanks for your response and you've certainly given me something to chew on with regards to the issue of eternal damnation in the life of an unbeliever.

  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    continued,
    The key I believe to understanding this is that they are looked upon and seen as abhorrence to all flesh. The scene is intended to inspire revulsion, disgust, and fear. While anyone who has experienced a dead body that is infested with maggots can understand the reference to the worm the fire is a little more obscure. First most persons have never smelled a burning corpse. Having experienced it myself (diseased sheep that had to be destroyed) I can attest to the abhorrent nature. Beyond this however in the culture of Isaiah and right up through later times the burning of a human corpse rather than consecrated burial was a sign that the person was a criminal (as these were in rebellion against God). Further the issue of decay (as in the worm that does not die)of bodies is one that is noted throughout scripture as particularly abhorrent to the Israelites. Christ in his teachings mentions this in a couple of places speaking of how the pharisees are like whited sepulchers on the outside but filled with filth and decay on the inside (like worm infested rotting corpses)
    Now let us turn to the texts use of the phrase "their fire is not quenched" notably here as in other similar scripture the term eternal fire is not used rather unquenchable fire. The two are quite distinct. An eternal fire would be one that burned forever (presumably either being continuously provided new fuel or somehow not consuming what was on fire) an unquenchable fire on the other hand is one that can not be stopped or put out. This type of fire burns up what is burning until it is completely consumed. This is consistent with other scripture which speaks of the rebellious being consumed or destroyed not preserved in eternal torment.
    So my reading is that the rebellious against god die, and their corpses are looked on by the righteous in their state of decay as the bodies are consumed by worms and fire.

  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Hi Believer, sorry for the delay in responding went to a meeting and got back late. Ok. Here is my view on this. First the full verse using NKJV

    24 And they shall go forth and look
    Upon the corpses of the men
    Who have transgressed against Me.
    For their worm does not die,
    And their fire is not quenched.
    They shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.

    A lot of Isaiah can't really be understood without historical context of the historical persons and places that are referred to. But this verse I believe can be read prophetically not just in relation to Israel but to a broader scope as well.
    That being said my guess is that your inquiry relates to the inference that is sometimes drawn that a fire that is not quenched is an implication of eternal punishment and by extension a literal fiery hell as the place of that punishment.
    I believe a simple review of the text will dispel such an interpretation. The first part of the text that should be noted is that the living will look on the corpses of the dead. Certainly the living righteous are not in any place of eternal punishment. In fact it seems clear that the location is the battlefield upon which the rebellious died. Given that these are the "corpses" or dead physical bodies of the rebellious which do not feel or experience the worm or fire what is the point of mentioning these.

  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    viking, long time no hear and I've got a question for you about a passage of scripture which seems to deal with eternal punishment for unbelievers and wanted to hear your view. Isaiah 66:24, "Then they will look on the corpses of the men who have transgressed against Me. For their worm will not die and their fire will not be quenched; and they will be an abhorrence to all mankind." My apology if you've spoken to this before.

  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:40 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer,
    excellent quote.

  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    ggirl, let me qoute you this from Norman Geisler's book, "When Critics Ask", speaking to God's role with moral evil, "Further, there is in an indirect sense in which God is the author of moral evil. God created moral beings with free choice, and free choice is the origin of moral evils in the universe, so ultimately God is responsible for making moral creatures who are responsible for moral evil. God made evil possible by creating free creatures, but the free creatures made evil actual. Of course the possibility of evil is itself a good thing. So, God created only good things, one of which was the power of free choice, and moral creatures produced the evil. However, God is the author of a moral universe and in this indirect and ultimate sense is the author of the possibility of evil. Of course God only permitted evil, but does not promote it, and He will ultimately produce a greater good through it.

  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:34 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    It really is a pretty heavy topic, which I think many struggle with. Where did evil come from - where did the idea even begin? And if all was created by God, then it had to have come from God. The proof is in the first story - the creation of the tree of Knowledge or in Hebrew text Tree of Conscience - the knowledge of good and evil. God created that tree. According to the tale, adam and eve released that knowledge by eating of its fruit. With the this first choice came the ability to choose intentionally between good and evil which in the end was necessary to have free will. BUT good and evil was first created by the Divine, and partaking of that knowledge is what lead to choice and free will in action. Without this creation, the depth of devotion would be questionable. Choice between the two makes decision and intent all the more powerful. That is my take on it anyway. :)

  • Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:47 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    ggirl, all things do come from God with the exception of sin and evil.

  • Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:17 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I don't mean it to sound like a trick question at all. I believe if God created everything, that means everything. Otherwise, it seemingly negates the omni- part of the Divine, which I don't think is true. In the end, I don't think it is a horrible thing to suggest all things come from the Divine. Both night and day, water and drought, laughter and tears - all come from the creator.

    In order to be able to choose something, the choices have to exist, or for lack of a better phrase 'be created'. I believe the Divine did just that, so all might be able to exercise free will. :)

  • Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:18 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    "I once asked this question - and seeing conversation regarding the goodness of god - I will ask it again. Is God Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent? Did God create everything?"

    I have a feeling this is a trick question.

    If you mean did he create sin, the answer is NO, but he did create the vessels that commit sin.

    He could have made us like robots with no free will, but he wanted us to choose to love him.

    Would you want a boybot, who said they loved you, but didn't have a clue what love even was?

  • Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:52 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I once asked this question - and seeing conversation regarding the goodness of god - I will ask it again. Is God Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent? Did God create everything?

  • Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:01 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    ''there should be no picking and choosing when it comes to God's word''

    Exactly. :)

  • Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:01 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    ''I cant believe anyone could doubt man lived several hundred years.''

    It's about picking and choosing what to believe and that would mean believing the Bible. :)

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:28 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 2

    Hm,

    (Contradictions) Sorry, there are no contradictions here; only different audiences:

    Matthew wrote to the Jews, Luke wrote to the Greeks. Matthew's genealogy emphasized Jesus' claim to the throne of David and Luke's readers (Greeks/Gentiles) were less concerned about the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy, his genealogy focused on Jesus' descent from God with no emphasis on Jesus being the descendant of King David.


    (Evil commands: Leviticus 20:13)

    Under the ancient theocracy God explicitly ordained the death penalty for a number of reasons; homosexuality, adultery, murder, idolatry, communication with the dead, witchcraft, etc. I do not hear you bemoaning the others who were punished for their sins.


    (False statements "Methuselah lived 900 years")

    If you can believe that God created all things and originally intended for man to live forever; this shouldn't be difficult to accept.


    (Humans committed evil actions, and excused themselves by claiming that God did it.)

    But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you (1 Peter 1:25).


    Obviously you do not believe that God has preserved his word as he said he would. There is a word for this; it's called unbelief. The truth is; many today are trying to undermine the Holy Scriptures today to justify their personal behavior or lifestyles which are not biblically acceptable.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:17 pm Agree: 6   Disagree: 2

    hman, "grow up!", is that the best you've got, well I guess it is since you have yet to provide any valid biblical examples of contradictions, false statements, or evil commands. As mathetes shared we've already shown you how you were wrong with all the examples you shared.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:48 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    ''Hman,
    And by telling those children it's okay to do what God has called an abomination, you keep them from Jesus. Do you remember what He said about those who cause one of those little ones to stumble? Please repent before it's too late.''

    Amen.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:44 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 1

    Hman,
    And by telling those children it's okay to do what God has called an abomination, you keep them from Jesus. Do you remember what He said about those who cause one of those little ones to stumble? Please repent before it's too late.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:39 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    ''By insisting on your own peculiar and narrow interpretation of a few selected verses of the Bible, you are actively working to take away *every* gay child's right to grow up without harrassment, physical threats, and violence based on their sexual orientation.''

    But I already told you that I don't vote, so if I don't vote and I don't go around with anti-gay banners, how can I make any difference in people rights?

    Your opinion of me and my lifestyle doesn't affect my rights, but if you voted to take my rights away, then I could accuse you, but not untill.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:37 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Hman,

    You wrote: "evil actions of God: God did NOT commit any evil action. Humans committed evil actions, and excused themselves by claiming that God did it."

    And your proof is...?

    We've already been through the genealogies and pre-flood long lives on these posts. You've been shown both are correct; why bring it up again? If we went over it again, would you repent and believe?

    Sadly, as you question God's Word, you reveal your genealogy; you sound just like the one who said, "Did God say, 'You shall not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:24 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 3

    Flagged as inappropriate. show "What rights have I taken away from anyone?" By insisting on your own peculiar and narrow interpretation of a few selected verses of the Bible, you are actively working to take away *every* gay child's right to grow up without harrassment, physical threats, and violence based on their sexual orientation. Thus you are actively working to cause injury to hundreds of thousands of children because of your superstition, intellectual laziness (refusing to study), and lack of compassion. For me that's a biggie. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    I'm not going to play your little game with you.

    If you have anything sensible to say, I'll get back to you.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:19 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    You tell believer to grow up....lol.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:17 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Flagged as inappropriate. show No Brit, you are not doing what God's word instructs. You are taking little bits and pieces from the Bible and pretending that a narrow and peculiar magical interpretation of them comprises all of God's truth. And then you are inflicting your opinion on other people in ways that cause us injury, for example, by taking away our civil and legal rights. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:16 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ''You are taking little bits and pieces from the Bible and pretending that a narrow and peculiar magical interpretation of them comprises all of God's truth. And then you are inflicting your opinion on other people to cause them pain, for example, by taking away our civil and legal rights.''

    What rights have I taken away from anyone?

    I believe there is a whole Bible to be read, not just little bits.

    I won't tell you anything is truth, unless I've compared the Scriptures and know it is truth.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:10 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Believer: Grow up. :-) hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:10 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Well Hm, I'm just doing what the word of God tells me to do, so if you don't like it, at least God does and I'm happy if he is.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 2

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Significant to our conversation, the Bible is not simple yes / no. For example it contains "the law". It is true that this was the law, and it is true that the law contained references to God. But that is not *proof* that God said these words. We as adults are *obliged* to use our common sense in reading what has been handed down to us. In addition to what we *must* do (apply common sense), we *should* also apply compassion. There is more to it than that as well, of course. But if we fail to do just these two things - apply common sense and compassion - we are not helping to make God's world the best it can be; we are not working for the Kingdom of Heaven. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:02 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 2

    hman, still waiting for a valid contradiction, false statement, or evil command since none of the ones you shared are any of them!

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:02 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Regarding "not saved," no, that is not my opinion. I submit my impression recognizing that I may be mistaken. It seems to me that you are in the darkness on some spiritually significant issues. My impression is that you are stuck in an immature stage of "magical thinking." It makes sense for a child to expect that everything will be presented as a simple yes / no. But as we grow up we learn that people have been taking care of us and simplifying complicated things down to this yes / no so that we could handle the decisions we needed to make. At various times we come to a point where there is nobody pre-digesting reality for us any more. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ''Brit, you are still in the darkness. This is one of those linguistic things that you laugh at, and it is causing you to make a grave spiritual error.''

    Why am I in darkness?

    I'd say you are saying that I'm not saved, so what makes you think that I'm not saved?

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show I'm gonna take the lazy route. contradictions: the genealogies of Jesus in Matthew and Luke contradict each other. One or the other must be wrong. Or possibly both of course. evil commands: Leviticus 20:13, or the commands to murder the inhabitants of Palestine. false statements: "Methuselah lived 900 years." evil actions of God: God did NOT commit any evil action. Humans committed evil actions, and excused themselves by claiming that God did it. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:28 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Believer, I will acknowledge that you said a kind word to me the other day, and I appreciate that. But on this topic: you have seen the truth, and you simply deny it. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:25 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show "And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." Brit, you are still in the darkness. This is one of those linguistic things that you laugh at, and it is causing you to make a grave spiritual error. To interpret Logos as "the 66 books of the Bible" is the nursery rhyme version. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:20 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    hman, and still no valid contradictions, evil commands, false statements, or evil actions of God cited by you!

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:17 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show "You have yet to prove that God did evil things" God did NOT do evil things. Human beings did evil things, and claimed that God did it. Whenever it is written in the Bible that God killed so-and-so, or commanded that so-and-so should be killed, it's a good idea to check to see whether humans may have done the killing, or wanted to kill somebody, and used God as an excuse. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:03 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ''I do not judge God. I judge the Bible. By putting the Bible above God, you commit idolatry.''

    You are judging his word and Jesus Christ is the Word.

    ''In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD.
    The same was in the beginning with God.
    All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
    In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
    And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.'' John 1:1-5.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:38 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    hm,

    You have yet to prove that God did evil things or that the Bible is anything but the Word of God...

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:18 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    Flagged as inappropriate. show "Given that we are not omniscient, how strange that you think you are in a position to judge God." I do not judge God. I judge the Bible. By putting the Bible above God, you commit idolatry. The Bible contains a few internal contradictions, it makes a few false statements, it commands a few evil actions, and it attributes a few evil actions to God. You worship an object that was created by human beings. It calls for murder. Will you commit those murders? Or will you repent of your idolatry? The Bible is not perfect. Not every word is literally true. You can handle it! :-) hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:54 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    hman, you make the claim of mistakes and yet you have yet to produce a valid one yet!

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:52 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 0

    H316, you're correct that the KJV is not the newest translation out there, but what's interesting is when they find an ancient piece of manuscript from the Bible and put it along side the KJV they are almost identical without any significant doctrinal or theological difference. The one that comes to mind is when they found an amulet containing a portion of the Book of Nehemiah and translated it into English it was almost word for word the same as the KJV.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:44 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    Hman,
    You wrote: "...some of those mistakes are in the Bible. It is not perfect. It contains internal contradictions."

    Almost every so-called mistake I've seen raised on atheist wesites usually disappears on closer inspecton. Those scribal emandations or errors in no way affect the central truths of God's Word; they are minor and extraneous.

    "Most significantly, the Bible occasionally states that God did things that are evil. Either God is not good, or the Bible contains mistakes."

    Given that we are not omniscient, how strange that you think you are in a position to judge God. What seems evil to us may be the correct or best thing for the people in that situation. The inoculation hurts the child but prevents a much worse disease or death.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ''Praying for us all today, love wowie''

    :)

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:27 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ''and spend a couple of months learning the language God wrote the manuscripts so you can read the Bible as it was meant to be read.''

    What verse is that, ''thou shat not read an english translation, but must learn ancient greek.''

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    ''Maybe you should throw away your television''

    Already have, well someone else has it anyway.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:05 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Flagged as inappropriate. show wrhalver wrote "That is the reason Christ came, to learn more about the Father and His love for us." Speaking of words and misunderstanding. ?? The fact is we *all* make mistakes, and some of those mistakes are in the Bible. It is not perfect. It contains internal contradictions. Most significantly, the Bible occasionally states that God did things that are evil. Either God is not good, or the Bible contains mistakes. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:45 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    H316,

    Since you wrote about Brit in the 3rd person, I guess you're talking to me. Don't need any brownie points0 but thanks. I wish I could remember who wrote my Aramaic primer, but I lost it when New Orleans flooded. If you really learn you Hebrew well, you won't have any problem with Aramaic; most of the differences are in the vowels and how they volitilize. I wish you well with your studies. Not everyone is blessed with the time, resources, and ability to learn the original languages as we are.

    As for Brit, I think his testimony has been clear on other posts: salvation is in Christ alone, by grace alone, through faith alone. As with all who truly put their faith in Christ for salvation, he is our brother. If I see a problem that needs correcting, I will speak the truth in love (and I expect him to do the same), but I will throw no stones at one Jesus has pardoned.

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:15 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:18

    Plain English :o)

    Praying for us all today, love wowie

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:46 am Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Flagged as inappropriate. show Yes, pardon me, I meant the New Testament. I'm still learning Hebrew for the Old Testament, and I'm trying to find a good Aramaic primer for the small bit that was written in Aramaic (ten brownie points if you can name it). Besides, BRIT has already explained to you that he DOES worship a book. Scroll down a little bit. BRIT is among the lost- he has put another God before God and he sees a path to the Father (the KJV) other than Jesus. And why do you believe that God inspired the translators? We are told in the Bible that all SCRIPTURE is God-breathed, not all copies of copies of copies of translations of copies of Scripture. The KJV is not even the most accurate translation out there (I can already hear BRIT's cultish instincts going off the deep end). Maybe you should throw away your television or whatever and spend a couple of months learning the language God wrote the manuscripts so you can read the Bible as it was meant to be read. hide

  • Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:27 am Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    I believe it was BRIT72 who suggested the following....

    "Not everyone can learn languages, some people can harldy speak their native tongue, but praise the Lord God Almighty that we have a wonderful translation, translated by God fearing men for our native tongue and we don't have to learn any other language."

    It is true that we do not have to learn any other languages.

    God has blessed us with men and women, inspired by the Holy Spirit, to accurately translate languages and cultures so that we can better understand what God is trying to communicate to us.

    We know these things to be true of God. He cannot lie and He cannot contradict himself. God would not give us words that are meant to be deceptive.

    God is serious enough with us that he gave His Son to die for us. His Word is no less serious.

    English is a wonderful language but it is limiting in comparison to how words are used in other languages. By studying these differences, we demonstrate to God that we really want to learn more about Him.

    That is the reason Christ came, to learn more about the Father and His love for us.

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