Updated 07:54 am.EST, Mon November 23, 2009

Church|Wed, Jul. 08 2009 11:56 PM EDT

U.S. Episcopal Head Opens Triennial Convention with 'Crisis' Talk

By Eric Young|Christian Post Reporter

Episcopal leaders at this year's convention, which takes place in Anaheim, Calif., will be considering a number of resolutions that center around the issue of homosexuality.

One new resolution that will be introduced and debated at this week’s General Convention will seek to extend a key marriage ritual to gay and lesbian couples, particularly in the six states that recognize same-sex marriages – Massachusetts, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Iowa and Connecticut.

"In all six states, faithful Episcopalians are asking that their church provide the pastoral support and blessing of the church for their marriages," reads an explanation attached to the resolution. "Clergy in those same states are caught between the authority given them by the state and the discipline of The Episcopal Church as it's currently described."

The Diocese of Massachusetts is further calling on the General Convention to amend references in The Episcopal Church's canon laws on marriage from "a man and a woman" to "two adults."

The loudest of the calls, arguably, is that of some dioceses to repeal or retract B033, a resolution passed in 2006 that calls for restraint in ordaining bishops "whose manner of life presents a challenge to the wider church" – mainly noncelibate homosexuals.

The Diocese of Newark argues that B033 was never intended to be permanent and that it was only passed to prevent further fractioning of the worldwide Anglican Communion.

Anglican leaders overseas, however, have warned The Episcopal Church against rescinding resolution B033 or passing any resolution that would further put the American church body at odds with the larger Anglican Church.

The Most Rev. Drexel Gomez, the Archbishop of the West Indies and chairman of the Covenant Working Group, said in May that if the General Convention rescinds resolution B033 and removes any barriers to persons involved in same-sex relationships, it will "imperil" the work of the Covenant and will have an impact on the rest of the communion because of the responses others will need to make.

In her opening address Tuesday, Jefferts Schori reminded the General Convention that its triennial gathering is always a time of critical decision-making.

“The decision-making we face here is an opportunity to choose the direction of our journey into God’s mission,” she said.

“We will fail if we choose business as usual,” the presiding bishop added.

This week’s General Convention, the 76th, comes two months after the Anglican Consultative Council, a decision-making body of bishops, clergy and laity, reaffirmed the moratoria on the consecration of partnered gay bishops and the authorization of public rites blessing same-sex unions.

The council also voted to delay the release of the Anglican covenant – a document seeking to uphold the autonomy of the Communion’s 38 provinces while asking for their voluntary commitment to a process of joined-up deliberation to solve disputes over contentious issues – in order to make more revisions.

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  • Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:29 am Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    " "she called virtually every other Protestant denomination heretical"

    Nothing new here.

  • Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:31 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The crisis is her...

  • Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Believer" hman, number one perhaps you do but I don't wear panties"

    Thank goodness ... I thought I had another Phophet on my hands. Whew!

  • Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Check out my comments on this story at my blog www.thetruthteller.org. Please read my blog titled,"Where's the Church?" You will not be disappointed.

  • Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:14 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    hman, as for the issue itself Christ clearly spoke to individual salvation in John 3:14-16, 5:24, 6:35-37, and 8:12 we see Jesus speaking to the salvation of individuals affirming that salvation is available to any individual on an individual basis.

  • Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:04 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    hman, number one perhaps you do but I don't wear panties and if you would follow the news you would see that is exactly what she said and I simply paraphrased what she said with regards to individuals personally asking for salvation as being heresy!!

  • Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:51 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    â

  • Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:08 am Agree: 5   Disagree: 5

    The "most reverend" Bishop Katherine Jefferts Schori is the most ridiculous impostor of a Christian I have ever witnessed. Why does she even bother heading a Christian church when she so clearly teaches such a watered down gospel it can hardly be recognized as the message of Jesus?

    I'm certain that some Schori fans will counter me, but I'm sorry folks, your leader is a sham and your whole denomination will continue to crumble and fall until you refocus on internalizing your redeemer's message (no matter how difficult it is to be called to repentance) instead of adapting his message to fit the framework of a corrupted American culture's latest philosophical trends.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:09 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    "As an Anglican (who attends an Episcopal Church in my area due to not having another choice - what?...

    Why do you think Jesus chose 13 men as Apostles?

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:07 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 2

    "My impression is that Jesus focused mainly on working to bring about "the Kingdom of Heaven." That is a communal condition, not an individual event."

    Mincing words. Communal is made up of individuals. By her reasoning when Adam was the only one on earth he could not have been saved.

    Peter was crucified; Paul was beheaded.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:00 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    The religious leaders were always resented by Jesus,
    and I think this is cause of the falling away of Christians. I also think it is all part of a bigger government plan, sounds creepy.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:53 pm Agree: 4   Disagree: 6

    Flagged as inappropriate. show believer wrote: "Just read where she has said that the teaching of people praying for their personal salvation is a heresy!!!" Again believer, unwad your panties. This goes to an overarching issue rather than a one-verse statement, so I will suggest this as an impression, and not a thoroughly studied conclusion (yet). My impression is that Jesus focused mainly on working to bring about "the Kingdom of Heaven." That is a communal condition, not an individual event. My impression is that how to achieve individual salvation and eternal life was the talk of the time among Jews before Jesus was born, and during the time He lived on Earth. As a result, it got a lot of attention in the texts covered in the Bible. He answered questions now and then about individual salvation. But it wasn't the focus of what *He* talked about. After the crucifixion, Peter, Paul, and others reverted to the pre-Jesus focus on individual salvation. Just my current impression. I could be wrong. What do you think? :-) hide

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:38 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    Flagged as inappropriate. show nh wrote: "I was wondering if anyone knows what her reference to stewardship as tending the pig sty could possibly even mean?" She was explaining the literal origin of the word "steward." It means "keeper of the sty." As always, there are several implications. First, as stewards, there is no point in being arrogant about our role. Second, she notes that it's not the fault of the pigs themselves that we pen them into a small space that gets dirty. Maybe you can follow up from there? Read some more of what she says about it. :-) hide

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:33 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show I think it's quite a good sermon of course :) You can read a copy of it here. http://www.episcopalchurch.org/documents/070709_PBopeningaddress.pdf hide

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:44 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    No,I disagree with her, and now who is bearing false witness

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:34 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    You should read and think about a response before replying, you obviously don't understand what I wrote and you are throwing a temper tantrum. When she says that the theology of the other Denominations is heretical then she has said what I said she said, there is nothing false about that.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:30 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    The great western heresy she decried is the foundational theology of most Protestant denominations and she would have to know that. She said what I said she said.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:26 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    Jefferts-Schori said...The overarching connection in all of these crises has to do with the great Western heresy - that we can be saved as individuals, that any of use alone can be in right relationship with God. It's caricatured in some quarters by insisting that salvation depends on reciting a specific verbal formula about Jesus.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:24 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 0

    The overarching connection in all of these crises has to do with the great Western heresy - that we can be saved as individuals, that any of use alone can be in right relationship with God. It's caricatured in some quarters by insisting that salvation depends on reciting a specific verbal formula about Jesus.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:24 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    As an Anglican (who attends an Episcopal Church in my area due to not having another choice - what? Presbyterian, Methodist, United Church of Christ are choices, lol?) I can assure you that our congregation does not follow what this heretical presiding bishop says - I honestly do not think she understands what being a disciple of Christ means! Yet, we are quite devoted to the idea of being loyal to our tradition (which BTW on their face are biblical) - thus we are at loggerheads with the body politic of this straying church leadership. I have not read her sermon BUT I HOPE my rector has and that such heretical messages will be soundly rejected.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:23 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show believer wrote: "she has said that the teaching of people praying for their personal salvation is a heresy!!!" You and I have talked about this already b. Personally I think it's disgusting to see the evil things that people do, right here on this forum for example, when they think they will get an eternal reward for it. hide

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:20 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    Flagged as inappropriate. show hypocrites wrote: "she called virtually every other Protestant denomination heretical" Can you give us that quote? hide

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:29 pm Agree: 2   Disagree: 0

    I read her truly bizarre sermon online wherein she called virtually every other Protestant denomination heretical. I was wondering if anyone knows what her reference to stewardship as tending the pig sty could possibly even mean?

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:57 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    Comment keeps getting cut off. Try one more time:

    The Presiding Bishop's ignorance of the Bible and Christian theology is nothing short of breathtaking the Dean of Moore College in Sydney, Dr Mark Thompson told Religious Intelligence.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:56 pm Agree: 0   Disagree: 1

    The Presiding Bishopâ

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:54 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 1

    She had the worst population adjusted membership numbers as bishop of Nevada (99th out of 99), so it is hardly a surprise she is a disaster as presiding bishop.

    It is interesting that she describes as heretical the belief that one is saved outside of a community, but she has denied the Christian church is unique (that's putting God "in a small box"). I guess one simply needs to be part of a group, any group: Muslims, Rotarians, Philatelists, etc.

    Some remarks about her latest display:

    "The Presiding Bishopâ

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:27 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 0

    Just read where she has said that the teaching of people praying for their personal salvation is a heresy!!!

  • Chaz »
    Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:44 pm Agree: 1   Disagree: 2

    ESV on John 4:10 -- "Jesus answered her, If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, Give me a drink, you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."

    KJF's "Theological MumboJumbo Version" (TMJV) -- John 10:4 -- "Jesus answered her, If you-all knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you-all, Give me a drink, you-all would have asked him, and he would have given you--the faith community, as a community, and only as a community--living water."

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:36 pm Agree: 5   Disagree: 4

    I agree. We need to pray for her, and this church to repent of their approval of perversion.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:57 pm Agree: 3   Disagree: 1

    Friends, this continued denominational disintegration breaks my heart, too. But rather than crucify her, why don't we lift her up instead...in prayer?

    For the good of the body of Christ, that's my approach. Join me in this noble effort. Jn. 17:21

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:24 pm Agree: 7   Disagree: 2

    Who gets saved if individuals do not? What Bible says that individuals are not the ones who are saved? This lady is way off center.

    Almost certainly she will lead TEC into deeper apostasy.

  • Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:23 am Agree: 8   Disagree: 4

    Flagged as inappropriate. show "Most [imposter] Rev.Katharine Jefferts Schori made it very clear that the denomination she presides over is in the middle of a crisis - one that has several parts." Well, you don't say?? Really. This woman has brought more division than a math book to the denomination. She's nothing short of a lousy leader and a snake. hide

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